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	<title>Comments on: When Crowdsourcing Fails: Cambrian House Headed to the Deadpool</title>
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		<title>By: boseheadphones</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-4/#comment-2883493</link>
		<dc:creator>boseheadphones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Crowdsourcing works? &#171; The Lost Press Marketing Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-4/#comment-2817041</link>
		<dc:creator>Crowdsourcing works? &#171; The Lost Press Marketing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Crowdsourcing fails in IT made headlines in venture capital circles last year when Cambrian House failed after $7.75 million was poured into the idea. Dell has made good use of Crowd Sourcing with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-4/#comment-2779148</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CM failed because it thought IDEAS were valuable. They aren&#039;t.  Only NEEDS are the avenue to success.  We tried to tell them, but they never bothered to take a meeting.

Crowdsourcing works, but you need to ask the right questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CM failed because it thought IDEAS were valuable. They aren&#8217;t.  Only NEEDS are the avenue to success.  We tried to tell them, but they never bothered to take a meeting.</p>
<p>Crowdsourcing works, but you need to ask the right questions.</p>
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		<title>By: PhysiciansForPatients.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-3/#comment-2631671</link>
		<dc:creator>PhysiciansForPatients.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WeAre.Us will also soon officially announce it took the first prize in the premiere VenCorps Community Driven Capital Contest ($50,000 in cash and accolades), which is backed by New York-based private equity firm Spencer Trask. (VenCorps, for those who follow these things, is what emerged from the now-defunct Cambrian House). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] WeAre.Us will also soon officially announce it took the first prize in the premiere VenCorps Community Driven Capital Contest ($50,000 in cash and accolades), which is backed by New York-based private equity firm Spencer Trask. (VenCorps, for those who follow these things, is what emerged from the now-defunct Cambrian House). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CrowdSourcing Blog &#187; Crowdsourcing: Now With a Real Business Model!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-3/#comment-2567585</link>
		<dc:creator>CrowdSourcing Blog &#187; Crowdsourcing: Now With a Real Business Model!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So is it safe to say crowdsourcing is viable? That&#8217;s probably as premature as when TechCrunch declared crowdsourcing dead in the water after Cambrian House, one of the first to chart these waters, cried uncle and changed its business [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So is it safe to say crowdsourcing is viable? That&#8217;s probably as premature as when TechCrunch declared crowdsourcing dead in the water after Cambrian House, one of the first to chart these waters, cried uncle and changed its business [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Crowdsourcing when VC-money dries up &#124; Chumba Corp</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-3/#comment-2565101</link>
		<dc:creator>Crowdsourcing when VC-money dries up &#124; Chumba Corp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So is it safe to say crowdsourcing is viable? That&#8217;s probably as premature as when TechCrunch declared crowdsourcing dead in the water after Cambrian House, one of the first to chart these waters, cried uncle and changed its business [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So is it safe to say crowdsourcing is viable? That&#8217;s probably as premature as when TechCrunch declared crowdsourcing dead in the water after Cambrian House, one of the first to chart these waters, cried uncle and changed its business [...]</p>
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		<title>By: folka</title>
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		<dc:creator>folka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ron Conway: Out with the New, In with the Old : The Drama 2.0 Show</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-3/#comment-2501668</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Conway: Out with the New, In with the Old : The Drama 2.0 Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bubble (no pun intended) but crowdsourcing isn&#8217;t new and Conway might want to look at the fate of Cambrian House before he invests in that next big crowdsourcing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bubble (no pun intended) but crowdsourcing isn&#8217;t new and Conway might want to look at the fate of Cambrian House before he invests in that next big crowdsourcing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WeAre.Us Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; TECHCRUNCHED! WeAre.Us is (Almost) Like Ning, But With A Heart. Wins First VenCorps Prize.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-3/#comment-2501016</link>
		<dc:creator>WeAre.Us Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; TECHCRUNCHED! WeAre.Us is (Almost) Like Ning, But With A Heart. Wins First VenCorps Prize.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WeAre.Us will also soon officially announce it took the first prize in the premiere VenCorps Community Driven Capital Contest ($50,000 in cash and accolades), which is backed by New York-based private equity firm Spencer Trask. (VenCorps, for those who follow these things, is what emerged from the now-defunct Cambrian House). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] WeAre.Us will also soon officially announce it took the first prize in the premiere VenCorps Community Driven Capital Contest ($50,000 in cash and accolades), which is backed by New York-based private equity firm Spencer Trask. (VenCorps, for those who follow these things, is what emerged from the now-defunct Cambrian House). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Techvibes &#124; Blog &#124; Calgary, Edmonton, Kitchener-Waterloo, Montréal, Ottawa, Portland, Seattle, Toronto, Vancouver, Victoria</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-3/#comment-2499713</link>
		<dc:creator>Techvibes &#124; Blog &#124; Calgary, Edmonton, Kitchener-Waterloo, Montréal, Ottawa, Portland, Seattle, Toronto, Vancouver, Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thanks for clearing things up... again! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Thanks for clearing things up&#8230; again! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WeAre.Us is (Almost) Like Ning, But With A Heart. Wins First VenCorps Prize.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-3/#comment-2498572</link>
		<dc:creator>WeAre.Us is (Almost) Like Ning, But With A Heart. Wins First VenCorps Prize.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WeAre.Us will also soon officially announce it took the first prize in the premiere VenCorps Community Driven Capital Contest ($50,000 in cash and accolades), which is backed by New York-based private equity firm Spencer Trask. (VenCorps, for those who follow these things, is what emerged from the now-defunct Cambrian House). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] WeAre.Us will also soon officially announce it took the first prize in the premiere VenCorps Community Driven Capital Contest ($50,000 in cash and accolades), which is backed by New York-based private equity firm Spencer Trask. (VenCorps, for those who follow these things, is what emerged from the now-defunct Cambrian House). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 7 Ideas for Using Google Moderator In Business - Scott Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-3/#comment-2481174</link>
		<dc:creator>7 Ideas for Using Google Moderator In Business - Scott Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] or other methods, this adds a new dimension to the equation. While this method has its problems, there may be something to the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] or other methods, this adds a new dimension to the equation. While this method has its problems, there may be something to the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Crowdsourcing: business model failure vs. management mistake</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-3/#comment-2479522</link>
		<dc:creator>Crowdsourcing: business model failure vs. management mistake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] assume they’re referring to the comment that CEO Michael Sikorsky made on this TechCrunch article about CH’s failure in May. If you look at his explanation, Michael brings up one particularly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] assume they’re referring to the comment that CEO Michael Sikorsky made on this TechCrunch article about CH’s failure in May. If you look at his explanation, Michael brings up one particularly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wikinomics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Crowdsourcing: business model failure vs. management mistake</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-3/#comment-2465539</link>
		<dc:creator>Wikinomics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Crowdsourcing: business model failure vs. management mistake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] assume they&#8217;re referring to the comment that CEO Michael Sikorsky made on this TechCrunch article about CH&#8217;s failure in May. If you look at his explanation, Michael brings up one particularly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] assume they&#8217;re referring to the comment that CEO Michael Sikorsky made on this TechCrunch article about CH&#8217;s failure in May. If you look at his explanation, Michael brings up one particularly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Crowd Takes On Naming Consultants With NameThis</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-3/#comment-2357613</link>
		<dc:creator>The Crowd Takes On Naming Consultants With NameThis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are obvious problems with this and with crowdsourcing in general (for instance, read about the implosion at Cambrian House). But one thing this has going for it is simplicity. Anyone can come up with a name. (Anyone can [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are obvious problems with this and with crowdsourcing in general (for instance, read about the implosion at Cambrian House). But one thing this has going for it is simplicity. Anyone can come up with a name. (Anyone can [...]</p>
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		<title>By: xaxen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-3/#comment-2336221</link>
		<dc:creator>xaxen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another former employee...I wish I had your optimism cyberdong. I&#039;ve not seen much to make me think they can pull out of this deadpool. My only hope is that GWABS is a life raft and that takes off like gang busters. If they can only launch it so I can steal MJ&#039;s mojo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another former employee&#8230;I wish I had your optimism cyberdong. I&#8217;ve not seen much to make me think they can pull out of this deadpool. My only hope is that GWABS is a life raft and that takes off like gang busters. If they can only launch it so I can steal MJ&#8217;s mojo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cyberdong</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/when-crowdsourcing-fails-cambrian-house-headed-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-3/#comment-2323162</link>
		<dc:creator>cyberdong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 03:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the folks who are actually familiar with CH will know that I&#039;m both a former employee and a registered investor (and yes, I answer to the name &quot;cyberdong&quot;). Up until now, I&#039;ve been passively watching to see what develops here, but I&#039;ve decided to chip in to the discussion.  There are several &quot;I know a guy who worked there&quot; posts and such, so here&#039;s another &quot;I worked there&quot; one.

Yes, a lot of investors were friends and family members.  I fall into the former category, as do most of the founding technical staff.  We&#039;d all known MJ for a long time, and believed he was the right guy to be at the helm of something like CH.  Time may prove us wrong, but none of us were &quot;tricked&quot; into believing in him.  

Originally we were all contractors.  It made sense as a startup, and nobody balked.  Regarding the mandatory investment comment, I know of nobody who worked there that was required to invest. I do know former employees that have no stock at all.

CH was never secretive about the goings-on there...  Hell, we had live webcams in the office 24/7, and open chats during Demo Day.  I believe the vids are still available online for anyone who cares to view them.

I&#039;m personally feeling better about the money I&#039;ve invested than I did a year ago.  A year ago (when I left CH as an employee), I was not not convinced about the company&#039;s direction.  Seeing where they&#039;re going now is heartening to me.  It&#039;s more aligned with what I wanted to see when I invested and when I worked there.

To MJ&#039;s credit, he&#039;s always said the company will change direction if the market dictates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the folks who are actually familiar with CH will know that I&#8217;m both a former employee and a registered investor (and yes, I answer to the name &#8220;cyberdong&#8221;). Up until now, I&#8217;ve been passively watching to see what develops here, but I&#8217;ve decided to chip in to the discussion.  There are several &#8220;I know a guy who worked there&#8221; posts and such, so here&#8217;s another &#8220;I worked there&#8221; one.</p>
<p>Yes, a lot of investors were friends and family members.  I fall into the former category, as do most of the founding technical staff.  We&#8217;d all known MJ for a long time, and believed he was the right guy to be at the helm of something like CH.  Time may prove us wrong, but none of us were &#8220;tricked&#8221; into believing in him.  </p>
<p>Originally we were all contractors.  It made sense as a startup, and nobody balked.  Regarding the mandatory investment comment, I know of nobody who worked there that was required to invest. I do know former employees that have no stock at all.</p>
<p>CH was never secretive about the goings-on there&#8230;  Hell, we had live webcams in the office 24/7, and open chats during Demo Day.  I believe the vids are still available online for anyone who cares to view them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m personally feeling better about the money I&#8217;ve invested than I did a year ago.  A year ago (when I left CH as an employee), I was not not convinced about the company&#8217;s direction.  Seeing where they&#8217;re going now is heartening to me.  It&#8217;s more aligned with what I wanted to see when I invested and when I worked there.</p>
<p>To MJ&#8217;s credit, he&#8217;s always said the company will change direction if the market dictates.</p>
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		<title>By: also invested</title>
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		<dc:creator>also invested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 02:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CH has sold an &quot;instance&quot; of it charodix platform - without limitation to resell it.  that sounds like a licensing deal to me.  CH is going to close its website and is giving the CH community a place to go (vencorps) means it is giving up its asset (the crowd) and keeping what? an email list?

therefore the b-model must be to keep selling the chaordix platform and have each buyer of the software build a new and unique crowd around its vertical.

some issues with this strategy... CH now is going to develop its Charodix platform without its own community.  If it has a contract to maintain and upgrade Vencorps Charodix platform who owns the IP?  CH is now a software licensing and contract labour company?

MJ is busy in the valley?  MJ says he is moving there deto the lack of startup culture in Calgary.  Does this means CH the Software development company is moving to the valley too? or is MJ now out of the picture?

  CH would need more cash in order to keep running and to continue to build its software.  How many licenses need to be sold to recover the 7.7M already spent.  Sounds like a wind up of the company.  

Prediction -  

MJ announces his resignation as CEO and leaves Calgary - some token role as an advisor/director possibly...UNTIL

CH announces it has sold its assets and is ceasing as a business due to an inability to raise new funds.

Selloff of assets will take the form spinning of assets into new corps and the new financing needed to take them to their next step diluting out existing CH shareholders to a minority position.

fianlly - 

Too many people picking on MJ - yes he was the CEO, but the Board is ultimately responsible to shareholders.  He&#039;s an easy target because he&#039;s such a flamboyant personality, but the truth is that Brian Craig and the rest of the CH board allowed them to spend 6 million over budget in the first 18 months without oversight, without controls.  Its very obvious that the board is letting MJ take the heat when they were obviously negligent.  

The vencorps sale is not &quot;positive&quot; thing that CH is trying to sell it as - it is a route for a few insiders to salvage some value and for CH management to roll up and dump what&#039;s left of the company in the trash.

So erick was right the first time - CH welcome to the deadpool - its a fitting reunion as they will be joining the ethics of the CH management team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CH has sold an &#8220;instance&#8221; of it charodix platform &#8211; without limitation to resell it.  that sounds like a licensing deal to me.  CH is going to close its website and is giving the CH community a place to go (vencorps) means it is giving up its asset (the crowd) and keeping what? an email list?</p>
<p>therefore the b-model must be to keep selling the chaordix platform and have each buyer of the software build a new and unique crowd around its vertical.</p>
<p>some issues with this strategy&#8230; CH now is going to develop its Charodix platform without its own community.  If it has a contract to maintain and upgrade Vencorps Charodix platform who owns the IP?  CH is now a software licensing and contract labour company?</p>
<p>MJ is busy in the valley?  MJ says he is moving there deto the lack of startup culture in Calgary.  Does this means CH the Software development company is moving to the valley too? or is MJ now out of the picture?</p>
<p>  CH would need more cash in order to keep running and to continue to build its software.  How many licenses need to be sold to recover the 7.7M already spent.  Sounds like a wind up of the company.  </p>
<p>Prediction &#8211;  </p>
<p>MJ announces his resignation as CEO and leaves Calgary &#8211; some token role as an advisor/director possibly&#8230;UNTIL</p>
<p>CH announces it has sold its assets and is ceasing as a business due to an inability to raise new funds.</p>
<p>Selloff of assets will take the form spinning of assets into new corps and the new financing needed to take them to their next step diluting out existing CH shareholders to a minority position.</p>
<p>fianlly &#8211; </p>
<p>Too many people picking on MJ &#8211; yes he was the CEO, but the Board is ultimately responsible to shareholders.  He&#8217;s an easy target because he&#8217;s such a flamboyant personality, but the truth is that Brian Craig and the rest of the CH board allowed them to spend 6 million over budget in the first 18 months without oversight, without controls.  Its very obvious that the board is letting MJ take the heat when they were obviously negligent.  </p>
<p>The vencorps sale is not &#8220;positive&#8221; thing that CH is trying to sell it as &#8211; it is a route for a few insiders to salvage some value and for CH management to roll up and dump what&#8217;s left of the company in the trash.</p>
<p>So erick was right the first time &#8211; CH welcome to the deadpool &#8211; its a fitting reunion as they will be joining the ethics of the CH management team.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Brenden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 02:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Warren

I am just trying to sort this all out. On the CH website it has both press releases:

http://www.cambrianhouse.com/media/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Warren</p>
<p>I am just trying to sort this all out. On the CH website it has both press releases:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cambrianhouse.com/media/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.cambrianhouse.com/media/'>http://www.camb...ouse.com/media/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 23:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@115 Brenden

Link to press release issued by Spencer Trask, discussing asset and membership transfer:

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/cambrian-house-and-spencer-trask-announce-transaction,402194.shtml

Corresponding link to press release issued by Cambrian:

http://www.cnw.ca/fr/releases/archive/May2008/20/c2348.html

It is very odd that the two companies didn&#039;t just issue a joint release, which is more the standard practice with announcements like this. And if for some reason they do agree to send out their own releases, there should be consistent information between them. These two releases just don&#039;t agree with each other.

And now I&#039;m nitpicking but the heading in the Cambrian release doesn&#039;t make sense or is just badly worded and not even relevant to the actual content of the release. Shoddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@115 Brenden</p>
<p>Link to press release issued by Spencer Trask, discussing asset and membership transfer:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/cambrian-house-and-spencer-trask-announce-transaction,402194.shtml" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/cambrian-house-and-spencer-trask-announce-transaction,402194.shtml'>http://www.eart...on,402194.shtml</a></p>
<p>Corresponding link to press release issued by Cambrian:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnw.ca/fr/releases/archive/May2008/20/c2348.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.cnw.ca/fr/releases/archive/May2008/20/c2348.html'>http://www.cnw....8/20/c2348.html</a></p>
<p>It is very odd that the two companies didn&#8217;t just issue a joint release, which is more the standard practice with announcements like this. And if for some reason they do agree to send out their own releases, there should be consistent information between them. These two releases just don&#8217;t agree with each other.</p>
<p>And now I&#8217;m nitpicking but the heading in the Cambrian release doesn&#8217;t make sense or is just badly worded and not even relevant to the actual content of the release. Shoddy.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 18:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 112 Warren

&quot;A press release issued by Trask today confirms that Cambrian ’sold certain assets’ to them, including a wholesale transfer of the Cambrian member community. But the corresponding Cambrian press release today AND video still dodges this fact, with the video specifically referring to the transaction as a licensing deal.&quot;

I have seen the CH press release I have not seen the Trask press release and would really appropriate seeing it. As I have based a post on the CH Forums on that statment http://www.cambrianhouse.com/forums/topic/general-discussion/2793/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 112 Warren</p>
<p>&#8220;A press release issued by Trask today confirms that Cambrian ’sold certain assets’ to them, including a wholesale transfer of the Cambrian member community. But the corresponding Cambrian press release today AND video still dodges this fact, with the video specifically referring to the transaction as a licensing deal.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have seen the CH press release I have not seen the Trask press release and would really appropriate seeing it. As I have based a post on the CH Forums on that statment <a href="http://www.cambrianhouse.com/forums/topic/general-discussion/2793/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.cambrianhouse.com/forums/topic/general-discussion/2793/'>http://www.camb...iscussion/2793/</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Reminder to Investors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Complaints can be filed with the Alberta Securities Commission here:

http://driveit.clickspace.com/survey/1004010/1000522</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Complaints can be filed with the Alberta Securities Commission here:</p>
<p><a href="http://driveit.clickspace.com/survey/1004010/1000522" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://driveit.clickspace.com/survey/1004010/1000522'>http://driveit....1004010/1000522</a></p>
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		<title>By: also invested</title>
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		<dc:creator>also invested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 08:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too found the email from the president and MJ Sikorsky to be purposefully obtuse while the video is equally of little help for shareholders though gives users of the CH website a clear direction - Go to Vencorps.

The fact that CH sold the platform and the community to Spencer Trask and Vencorps and that Sean Wise (also a CH board member) is now the CEO of Vencorps makes me question the sales price for the platform and community - hard to say since no one is saying how much the charged.

One thing is for sure - as an investor,  this is a group of people I wouldn&#039;t trust ever again.  They remind me of the Nixon administration.  Elitism and paranoia sitting atop incompetance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too found the email from the president and MJ Sikorsky to be purposefully obtuse while the video is equally of little help for shareholders though gives users of the CH website a clear direction &#8211; Go to Vencorps.</p>
<p>The fact that CH sold the platform and the community to Spencer Trask and Vencorps and that Sean Wise (also a CH board member) is now the CEO of Vencorps makes me question the sales price for the platform and community &#8211; hard to say since no one is saying how much the charged.</p>
<p>One thing is for sure &#8211; as an investor,  this is a group of people I wouldn&#8217;t trust ever again.  They remind me of the Nixon administration.  Elitism and paranoia sitting atop incompetance.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 02:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just watched through that video and all I can say is wow. I&#039;ve been trying to keep my personal opinions off this thread because I usually consider them worthless...... :-)  But after personally watching the whole 26 minutes now I feel obligated to give my two cents: 

A press release issued by Trask today confirms that Cambrian &#039;sold certain assets&#039; to them, including a wholesale transfer of the Cambrian member community. But the corresponding Cambrian press release today AND video still dodges this fact, with the video specifically referring to the transaction as a licensing deal.

Either way, it is worth asking: what valuable core assets remain for Cambrian then? An unproven technology platform with one customer and no community to call your own? 

Sikorsky talks in the video about the press backlash and that they were over due for some bad press since they have been media darlings for the past couple of years. But $7.7 million spent, way off the mark of forcasted revenues, no commercialized projects, etc.? Sorry fella but THAT is what creates bad press.

Also them explaining that &#039;people&#039; are a huge cost in a software company should not shock anyone. But that is precisely why successful startup companies recognize that it is so important to make sure resources are focused on creating revenue-generating products vs. vanity projects and vaporware PR stunts, especially when you are accountable for that much of investors&#039; money.

Did I also properly hear them confirm in the video that they have been directing attention and support for Mob4Hire? Even though there was no expected benefit to the company/shareholders?

Sikorsky looks uncomfortable, and I guess I can&#039;t blame him. Worse, the whole video just came across to me as an insincere attempt to be transparant about the situation the company is in right now (or at worst, a plea for sympathy). And now what has been created unfortunately is more fodder for the naysayers who have been crying about questionable directing of company spending/resources, seeing them put that effort into such a shoddy PR video whose message is an unconvincing, &#039;No seriously, everything is fine over here&#039;.  

But for that matter the email sent out by the Cambrian president last week responding to Erick&#039;s article was just as equally confusing/contradictory.

Now I&#039;ll return to reserving my worthless opinion...... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched through that video and all I can say is wow. I&#8217;ve been trying to keep my personal opinions off this thread because I usually consider them worthless&#8230;&#8230; <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   But after personally watching the whole 26 minutes now I feel obligated to give my two cents: </p>
<p>A press release issued by Trask today confirms that Cambrian &#8217;sold certain assets&#8217; to them, including a wholesale transfer of the Cambrian member community. But the corresponding Cambrian press release today AND video still dodges this fact, with the video specifically referring to the transaction as a licensing deal.</p>
<p>Either way, it is worth asking: what valuable core assets remain for Cambrian then? An unproven technology platform with one customer and no community to call your own? </p>
<p>Sikorsky talks in the video about the press backlash and that they were over due for some bad press since they have been media darlings for the past couple of years. But $7.7 million spent, way off the mark of forcasted revenues, no commercialized projects, etc.? Sorry fella but THAT is what creates bad press.</p>
<p>Also them explaining that &#8216;people&#8217; are a huge cost in a software company should not shock anyone. But that is precisely why successful startup companies recognize that it is so important to make sure resources are focused on creating revenue-generating products vs. vanity projects and vaporware PR stunts, especially when you are accountable for that much of investors&#8217; money.</p>
<p>Did I also properly hear them confirm in the video that they have been directing attention and support for Mob4Hire? Even though there was no expected benefit to the company/shareholders?</p>
<p>Sikorsky looks uncomfortable, and I guess I can&#8217;t blame him. Worse, the whole video just came across to me as an insincere attempt to be transparant about the situation the company is in right now (or at worst, a plea for sympathy). And now what has been created unfortunately is more fodder for the naysayers who have been crying about questionable directing of company spending/resources, seeing them put that effort into such a shoddy PR video whose message is an unconvincing, &#8216;No seriously, everything is fine over here&#8217;.  </p>
<p>But for that matter the email sent out by the Cambrian president last week responding to Erick&#8217;s article was just as equally confusing/contradictory.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;ll return to reserving my worthless opinion&#8230;&#8230; <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<dc:creator>OneCHInvestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 21:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is worth a watch, regardless of which &quot;side&quot; you&#039;re on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYyXX3jVwwI</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYyXX3jVwwI" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYyXX3jVwwI'>http://www.yout...h?v=QYyXX3jVwwI</a></p>
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