Comments on: Ruby on Rails Startup Heroku Gets $3 Million http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:52:41 -0800 hourly 1 By: Babble http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-2/#comment-2330995 Babble Tue, 27 May 2008 16:01:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2330995 This is interesting stuff. RoR deployment has always been a bit of a headache and it looks like Heroku could be the ideal solution for many. That said, Rails deployment options are evolving and improving by the day and I generally prefer to deploy and setup my apps manually... for now, at least. Let's see how Heroku are doing in a year's time - best of luck to them! This is interesting stuff. RoR deployment has always been a bit of a headache and it looks like Heroku could be the ideal solution for many. That said, Rails deployment options are evolving and improving by the day and I generally prefer to deploy and setup my apps manually… for now, at least. Let’s see how Heroku are doing in a year’s time – best of luck to them!

]]> By: Ross http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2329683 Ross Tue, 27 May 2008 01:38:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2329683 It is good to see new SAAS providers getting the funding they need to give it a go. Ross http://www.hostdisciple.com It is good to see new SAAS providers getting the funding they need to give it a go.

Ross
http://www.hostdisciple.com

]]> By: Soleone http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2302285 Soleone Sat, 17 May 2008 00:14:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2302285 @chris: Rails CAN scale, maybe some developers can't. Example: http://www.shopify.com And for me, Heroku is great! It does not try to be an IDE! It only includes a leightweight editor, so you can directly apply changes to the running app. Of course there are lots ways to to manage your app on your server, and everyone has his own preference. But I worked with Heroku in the last months, and it certainly did it for me. (Note: these were just non-critical small apps). You can host MULTIPLE projects there for FREE (at least for now), the UI is simple and intuitive, I was up and running in minutes, and the support is also very well, what more could I want? Yea, maybe the integrated cluster- and dependency-management is also worth noting... @chris:

Rails CAN scale, maybe some developers can’t.
Example: http://www.shopify.com

And for me, Heroku is great!
It does not try to be an IDE! It only includes a leightweight editor, so you can directly apply changes to the running app. Of course there are lots ways to to manage your app on your server, and everyone has his own preference. But I worked with Heroku in the last months, and it certainly did it for me. (Note: these were just non-critical small apps).

You can host MULTIPLE projects there for FREE (at least for now), the UI is simple and intuitive, I was up and running in minutes, and the support is also very well, what more could I want? Yea, maybe the integrated cluster- and dependency-management is also worth noting…

]]> By: DE http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2294533 DE Tue, 13 May 2008 21:51:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2294533 This is a very good environment for non-critical apps, probably front ends to existing services. Lets face it, most apps are non-critical. And the more you know, the less time you want to waste on DIY. It's still a work in progress (i.e. don't depend on it) , but its obvious they understand the future. Being able to work directly online, or use GIT covers the bases well. The limitations are pretty obvious immediately, so are unlikely to confuse. This is a very good environment for non-critical apps, probably front ends to existing services. Lets face it, most apps are non-critical. And the more you know, the less time you want to waste on DIY.

It’s still a work in progress (i.e. don’t depend on it) , but its obvious they understand the future. Being able to work directly online, or use GIT covers the bases well. The limitations are pretty obvious immediately, so are unlikely to confuse.

]]> By: An idea a day - Alternative to GAE — The 42 Topics Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2293725 An idea a day - Alternative to GAE — The 42 Topics Blog Tue, 13 May 2008 15:28:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2293725 [...] raised 3 Million USD [...] [...] raised 3 Million USD [...]

]]> By: This Week in Ruby (May 12, 2008) | Zen and the Art of Programming http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2292048 This Week in Ruby (May 12, 2008) | Zen and the Art of Programming Mon, 12 May 2008 19:53:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2292048 [...] the VC funding spree of Ruby/Rails hosting companies continues, with a $3 Million round of financing being handed out to Heroku by Redpoint [...] [...] the VC funding spree of Ruby/Rails hosting companies continues, with a $3 Million round of financing being handed out to Heroku by Redpoint [...]

]]> By: Nome do Jogo » Artigo » Rails Podcast Brasil - Episódio 16 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2285153 Nome do Jogo » Artigo » Rails Podcast Brasil - Episódio 16 Fri, 09 May 2008 16:18:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2285153 [...] Ruby on Rails Startup Heroku Gets $3 Million [...] [...] Ruby on Rails Startup Heroku Gets $3 Million [...]

]]> By: micfo.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2285019 micfo.com Fri, 09 May 2008 14:51:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2285019 Look likePHP developers may start using ROR since it is easier to shift from one open source to other. :) Look likePHP developers may start using ROR since it is easier to shift from one open source to other. :)

]]> By: links for 2008-05-09 « Brent Sordyl’s Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2284998 links for 2008-05-09 « Brent Sordyl’s Blog Fri, 09 May 2008 14:33:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2284998 [...] Ruby on Rails Startup Heroku Gets $3 Million Heroku, the online Ruby on Rails (RoR) development and hosting environment, has raised $3 million from Redpoint Ventures and other angel investors. (tags: heroku rubyonrails vc) [...] [...] Ruby on Rails Startup Heroku Gets $3 Million Heroku, the online Ruby on Rails (RoR) development and hosting environment, has raised $3 million from Redpoint Ventures and other angel investors. (tags: heroku rubyonrails vc) [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2284769 Anonymous Fri, 09 May 2008 11:09:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2284769 Chris. Ha ha. A big blob on your web site says "Web 3.0 delivered". That's the funniest thing I've read all day. Shame I'm not laughing with you. Chris.

Ha ha. A big blob on your web site says “Web 3.0 delivered”. That’s the funniest thing I’ve read all day.

Shame I’m not laughing with you.

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2284316 Chris Fri, 09 May 2008 03:33:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2284316 "But most non-serious web devs also don’t tend to use RoR. They use phps." You're full of crap. I'm calling you on it. “But most non-serious web devs also don’t tend to use RoR. They use phps.”

You’re full of crap. I’m calling you on it.

]]> By: TekROI » News Wire » RoR Start-Up Heroku Gets $3 Million http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2284144 TekROI » News Wire » RoR Start-Up Heroku Gets $3 Million Fri, 09 May 2008 00:29:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2284144 [...] RoR (Ruby On Rails) hosting, and development start-up Heroku, has announced a $3 million Series A round. This is on top of their initial Y Combinator funding. Heroku claims to have over 10,00 developers, and 12,000 applications. I have personally used the service, and it has a nice UI. I don’t know how many people are actually using Heroku for live apps, but it sure does look promising. More info can be found at TechCrunch. [...] [...] RoR (Ruby On Rails) hosting, and development start-up Heroku, has announced a $3 million Series A round. This is on top of their initial Y Combinator funding. Heroku claims to have over 10,00 developers, and 12,000 applications. I have personally used the service, and it has a nice UI. I don’t know how many people are actually using Heroku for live apps, but it sure does look promising. More info can be found at TechCrunch. [...]

]]> By: Fabian Schonholz http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2284131 Fabian Schonholz Fri, 09 May 2008 00:19:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2284131 Congrats on the $$$. I am not a RoR fan, but ... hey ... it is not all about the technology. Congrats on the $$$. I am not a RoR fan, but … hey … it is not all about the technology.

]]> By: wenbert http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2284091 wenbert Thu, 08 May 2008 23:35:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2284091 Heroku is like MorphExchange. Only the name is shorter ^_^ These things are really nice. I wonder if there are similar platforms for PHP. If there are, email me! Heroku is like MorphExchange. Only the name is shorter ^_^
These things are really nice. I wonder if there are similar platforms for PHP. If there are, email me!

]]> By: Jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2284060 Jason Thu, 08 May 2008 23:07:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2284060 I wonder what would happen if you built a Heroku inside a Heroku. Would it still scale? I'd have to agree that serious RoR developers will probably want to DIY. If you've got the skills to build a serious web app, you won't be seeking Heroku. This is more of a plug and play for non-serious web devs. But most non-serious web devs also don't tend to use RoR. They use phps. Now if someone creates something like this for PHP... I wonder what would happen if you built a Heroku inside a Heroku. Would it still scale?

I’d have to agree that serious RoR developers will probably want to DIY. If you’ve got the skills to build a serious web app, you won’t be seeking Heroku. This is more of a plug and play for non-serious web devs. But most non-serious web devs also don’t tend to use RoR. They use phps.

Now if someone creates something like this for PHP…

]]> By: vince http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2284030 vince Thu, 08 May 2008 22:33:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2284030 *sigh. chris, and tom - you love LAMP you love Rails blah blah blah. this is about something else and you're all missing the point. people choose different platforms for different reasons, move on. i for one welcome more options, have tried Heroku, and love where they are headed. I wish them all the best! *sigh. chris, and tom – you love LAMP you love Rails blah blah blah. this is about something else and you’re all missing the point. people choose different platforms for different reasons, move on. i for one welcome more options, have tried Heroku, and love where they are headed. I wish them all the best!

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]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2284012 Chris Thu, 08 May 2008 22:17:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2284012 @33, or should I say Tom, RoR is HORRIBLE at scaling. Just look at twitter. So you created your app on the LAMP server where you mounted your Linux /var/www/myapp on your windows via samba, and you hit the build button on Eclipse. Your app is now freshly built and viewable on your remote LAMP server via the magic of cutting edge 1985 networked filesystem technology! Now you want to scale! su enter p@ssword [ $] yum install webmin /sbin/service webmin start https://myawesomedomain.com:10000/ [ hits cluster tab ] Uses webmin UI to configure large cluster. LOLZ and goes back to sleep. Again, you could pull the webmin clusting code right out of webmin and use it with a new Eclipse web IDE UI. It wouldn't even take 1 million dollars to complete. It would cost about 500k tops if there were no managers or execs to drive the BMW 745i's of the world. This is aimed at people who don't know how to code or don't visit digg. But those people are the least likely to use this. That's the paradox. If there was a web UI for Eclipse they would never use this at all. @33, or should I say Tom,

RoR is HORRIBLE at scaling. Just look at twitter.
So you created your app on the LAMP server where you mounted your Linux /var/www/myapp on your windows via samba, and you hit the build button on Eclipse. Your app is now freshly built and viewable on your remote LAMP server via the magic of cutting edge 1985 networked filesystem technology!

Now you want to scale!

su
enter p@ssword
[ $] yum install webmin
/sbin/service webmin start

https://myaweso...main.com:10000/

[ hits cluster tab ]

Uses webmin UI to configure large cluster.
LOLZ and goes back to sleep.

Again, you could pull the webmin clusting code right out of webmin and use it with a new Eclipse web IDE UI.
It wouldn’t even take 1 million dollars to complete. It would cost about 500k tops if there were no managers or execs to drive the BMW 745i’s of the world.

This is aimed at people who don’t know how to code or don’t visit digg. But those people are the least likely to use this. That’s the paradox. If there was a web UI for Eclipse they would never use this at all.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2283995 Anonymous Thu, 08 May 2008 22:05:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2283995 Ok Chris, so your NFS/samba solution is great. Now you got your files deployed to the server. Great. What about scaling? Provisioning elastic infrastructure? Dynamically horizontally expanding the app server layer? Dynamically vertically scaling the DB layer? Hello? Ok Chris, so your NFS/samba solution is great. Now you got your files deployed to the server. Great. What about scaling? Provisioning elastic infrastructure? Dynamically horizontally expanding the app server layer? Dynamically vertically scaling the DB layer? Hello?

]]> By: Alaska Miller http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2283949 Alaska Miller Thu, 08 May 2008 21:30:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2283949 Chris just pwned Tom. Chris just pwned Tom.

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2283933 Chris Thu, 08 May 2008 21:15:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2283933 The deployment location of built files is irrelevant. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying that's not a substantial feature. The deployment location of built files is irrelevant. That’s what I’m saying. I’m saying that’s not a substantial feature.

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2283930 Chris Thu, 08 May 2008 21:14:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2283930 @29 you mean like the build button in Eclipse? You just mount the development/release drive on your server with NFS or Samba then work on the files directly in Eclipse then hit the build button. That's how everybody does it now. Say your app is at /var/www/myapp/ You mount that in windows as a shared drive then open the Eclipse project right in that folder. When you hit build it's live. Or if you're working on linux you just mount it as NFS with /etc/exports Nobody FTPs files anymore. If you swapped out the UI for Eclipse and made an online editor, you could simply have that deploy to /var/www/lastProject+1/ and it would be live too. What you're explaining is arcane and senseless as a feature. "I believe you're saying, our little editor uses a local server filesystem." An online version of Eclipse could do the same, but with NFS and samba you don't even need that right now. For those who are lost, an Online Eclipse can do the exact same thing. You are trying to confuse the issue for investors and executives. It's NOT unique. @29 you mean like the build button in Eclipse?

You just mount the development/release drive on your server with NFS or Samba then work on the files directly in Eclipse then hit the build button.

That’s how everybody does it now.

Say your app is at
/var/www/myapp/

You mount that in windows as a shared drive then open the Eclipse project right in that folder. When you hit build it’s live. Or if you’re working on linux you just mount it as NFS with /etc/exports

Nobody FTPs files anymore.

If you swapped out the UI for Eclipse and made an online editor, you could simply have that deploy to /var/www/lastProject+1/ and it would be live too.

What you’re explaining is arcane and senseless as a feature.
“I believe you’re saying, our little editor uses a local server filesystem.”

An online version of Eclipse could do the same, but with NFS and samba you don’t even need that right now. For those who are lost, an Online Eclipse can do the exact same thing.

You are trying to confuse the issue for investors and executives. It’s NOT unique.

]]> By: Tom http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2283926 Tom Thu, 08 May 2008 21:06:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2283926 Chris: you == the retarded one. Heroku is much more than a text editor on the web, it allows one-click scalabed deployment. That means you write your app (using the online editor OR your own then upload via Git) then deploy the app to Heroku, which then handles all the deployment details, including scaling if needed. Chris: you == the retarded one.

Heroku is much more than a text editor on the web, it allows one-click scalabed deployment. That means you write your app (using the online editor OR your own then upload via Git) then deploy the app to Heroku, which then handles all the deployment details, including scaling if needed.

]]> By: randy http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2283912 randy Thu, 08 May 2008 20:43:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2283912 Seems people are missing the point of Heroku. It is more than an online IDE... it is a cloud platform with a built in IDE. Seems people are missing the point of Heroku. It is more than an online IDE… it is a cloud platform with a built in IDE.

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2283907 Chris Thu, 08 May 2008 20:35:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/ruby-on-rails-startup-heroku-gets-3-million/#comment-2283907 http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flex_3:Release_Notes "Adobe® Flex™ Builder™ 3 is Adobe's professional Flex IDE built on Eclipse™." http://www.zend.com/en/products/studio/ "Proven Zend Studio technology powered by Eclipse" You could just drop out the Java UI library and slide in a web/ajax class library to display the eclipse UI, or you could simply create a frontend in Flex that intefaces Eclipse directly with an API. You can commercially reuse eclipse as seen by Zend and Adobe. I use Flex 3 studio with Eclipse everyday, and I had to pay $350 for it. That would crush any web IDE period. If anybody develops this, let me work on it!!! I would almost drop what I'm doing to work on that. http://labs.ado...3:Release_Notes

“Adobe® Flexâ„¢ Builderâ„¢ 3 is Adobe’s professional Flex IDE built on Eclipseâ„¢.”

http://www.zend...roducts/studio/

“Proven Zend Studio technology powered by Eclipse”

You could just drop out the Java UI library and slide in a web/ajax class library to display the eclipse UI, or you could simply create a frontend in Flex that intefaces Eclipse directly with an API.

You can commercially reuse eclipse as seen by Zend and Adobe. I use Flex 3 studio with Eclipse everyday, and I had to pay $350 for it.

That would crush any web IDE period. If anybody develops this, let me work on it!!! I would almost drop what I’m doing to work on that.

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