Comments on: Scoop: Facebook To Announce Safety And Privacy Deal With 49 States http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:54:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Facebook, MySpace Ignore Location On iPhone At Their Peril http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2410162 Facebook, MySpace Ignore Location On iPhone At Their Peril Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:54:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2410162 [...] more than to talk about sexual predators lurking around the big social networks. Both MySpace and Facebook have had to make big changes to their privacy policies, particularly how they set up accounts for [...] [...] more than to talk about sexual predators lurking around the big social networks. Both MySpace and Facebook have had to make big changes to their privacy policies, particularly how they set up accounts for [...]

]]> By: Gadgeteer10 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2293315 Gadgeteer10 Tue, 13 May 2008 10:36:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2293315 Unfortunately I am sure it will not do much, but still I will have to give thumbs up to Facebook on the big effort to stop some of these horrible cases. Also Facebook and Myspace are the leading social network websites and I am sure that many will follow their example after this announcement. Great job! Unfortunately I am sure it will not do much, but still I will have to give thumbs up to Facebook on the big effort to stop some of these horrible cases. Also Facebook and Myspace are the leading social network websites and I am sure that many will follow their example after this announcement. Great job!

]]> By: Terbaik.Net » Blog Archive » Doko: Tween Social Networking With A Twist http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2287405 Terbaik.Net » Blog Archive » Doko: Tween Social Networking With A Twist Sat, 10 May 2008 16:32:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2287405 [...] include Zwinky, Club Penguin, and Gaia. Even Facebook is making attempts to appease parents - yesterday they announced a number of new policies designed to safeguard against sexual [...] [...] include Zwinky, Club Penguin, and Gaia. Even Facebook is making attempts to appease parents - yesterday they announced a number of new policies designed to safeguard against sexual [...]

]]> By: Jacob http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2287303 Jacob Sat, 10 May 2008 15:32:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2287303 To add to what I said, I would also like to point out that I find it extremely unlikely that one would be victimized unless one were using a social network to seek an intimate relationship. Finding a friend I can email about Python or the talent show is not going to get me followed home and raped, as far as I know. To add to what I said, I would also like to point out that I find it extremely unlikely that one would be victimized unless one were using a social network to seek an intimate relationship.

Finding a friend I can email about Python or the talent show is not going to get me followed home and raped, as far as I know.

]]> By: Jacob http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2287297 Jacob Sat, 10 May 2008 15:27:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2287297 That's good that they'll be beefing it up. It may help with parents' perception of social networking to know that they're working on it. But still. Sometimes the age thing drives me nuts. I'm in middle school, and really the only computer-oriented person there, the only programmer, etc. I have a couple friends, but I know absolutely 0 computer people. Would I love to find someone I could talk to about programming or the latest non-mainstream technology release? Heck yeah. Would I love to write Facebook apps? Heck yeah. But anyone who does not work towards making that impossible is viewed as evil, as a pedophile. I call for a "safe" social network. Or maybe even an extension of Facebook that would allow us to connect within our school but block everybody else unless the parent consented. I could do so many great things for my school community and student council if we were a Facebook group I could write apps for. The adminstration would be able to communicate with students, etc. Facebook, though, does do a good job deterring people as I cannot sign up with my school, therefore I cannot connect with anyone I know. That’s good that they’ll be beefing it up. It may help with parents’ perception of social networking to know that they’re working on it.

But still. Sometimes the age thing drives me nuts. I’m in middle school, and really the only computer-oriented person there, the only programmer, etc. I have a couple friends, but I know absolutely 0 computer people. Would I love to find someone I could talk to about programming or the latest non-mainstream technology release? Heck yeah.

Would I love to write Facebook apps? Heck yeah.

But anyone who does not work towards making that impossible is viewed as evil, as a pedophile.

I call for a “safe” social network. Or maybe even an extension of Facebook that would allow us to connect within our school but block everybody else unless the parent consented. I could do so many great things for my school community and student council if we were a Facebook group I could write apps for. The adminstration would be able to communicate with students, etc.

Facebook, though, does do a good job deterring people as I cannot sign up with my school, therefore I cannot connect with anyone I know.

]]> By: Strix http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2287104 Strix Sat, 10 May 2008 13:05:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2287104 "... it cannot be seen as lagging in this area with all the real concerns about sexual predators on social networks." - There's the problem right there, the concern is much more real than any actual danger this system will prevent. I resent the expectation that my discourse online should be reduced to what Facebook considers appropriate for tweens because some parents of fretting over their 'online predator' urban legend. “… it cannot be seen as lagging in this area with all the real concerns about sexual predators on social networks.” - There’s the problem right there, the concern is much more real than any actual danger this system will prevent. I resent the expectation that my discourse online should be reduced to what Facebook considers appropriate for tweens because some parents of fretting over their ‘online predator’ urban legend.

]]> By: Digital Media Kids http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2285495 Digital Media Kids Fri, 09 May 2008 19:39:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2285495 [...] include Zwinky, Club Penguin, and Gaia. Even Facebook is making attempts to appease parents - yesterday they announced a number of new policies designed to safeguard against sexual [...] [...] include Zwinky, Club Penguin, and Gaia. Even Facebook is making attempts to appease parents - yesterday they announced a number of new policies designed to safeguard against sexual [...]

]]> By: Facebook Signs on to Child Protection Guidelines | Advertising Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2284992 Facebook Signs on to Child Protection Guidelines | Advertising Blog Fri, 09 May 2008 14:27:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2284992 [...] Facebook apps will also be required to comply with the new guidelines. For the full text of the guidelines, see TechCrunch. [...] [...] Facebook apps will also be required to comply with the new guidelines. For the full text of the guidelines, see TechCrunch. [...]

]]> By: Doko: Tween Social Networking With A Twist http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2284865 Doko: Tween Social Networking With A Twist Fri, 09 May 2008 12:01:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2284865 [...] include Zwinky, Club Penguin, and Gaia. Even Facebook is making attempts to appease parents - yesterday they announced a number of new policies designed to safeguard against sexual [...] [...] include Zwinky, Club Penguin, and Gaia. Even Facebook is making attempts to appease parents - yesterday they announced a number of new policies designed to safeguard against sexual [...]

]]> By: seeb http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2284744 seeb Fri, 09 May 2008 10:46:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2284744 BIG DEAL. All this means is that when you sign up you have to scroll to the bottom of the terms and conditions before you can click continue and sign up. These sort of things arent deterrents, ok so im under 18, i check the tickbox that says i have read safety tips before i can continue. Of course i dont read it i just want to hurry through and sign up. The rest of the stuff on the list they should be doing anyway but these things are pretty weak. BIG DEAL.

All this means is that when you sign up you have to scroll to the bottom of the terms and conditions before you can click continue and sign up.

These sort of things arent deterrents, ok so im under 18, i check the tickbox that says i have read safety tips before i can continue. Of course i dont read it i just want to hurry through and sign up.

The rest of the stuff on the list they should be doing anyway but these things are pretty weak.

]]> By: Original Sin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2284628 Original Sin Fri, 09 May 2008 09:37:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2284628 The problem with such blanket legislation is that it will force Facebook to treat an adult from say London the same way it treats a ten-year-old from New Jersey. To use an example from my own profile, I had a picture where I am holding a gun. I wasn't breaking any laws, I don't even own a gun (the picture was from a shooting range) and what I was doing was perfectly legal, but the picture was removed, twice. It's annoying and indeed lame that a site that we've all become so dependent on has dragged the lowest common denominator so far down. As mentioned above, this false sense of security is created for all those lazy parents who want to believe that their irresponsible child is "safe" on facebook. The problem with such blanket legislation is that it will force Facebook to treat an adult from say London the same way it treats a ten-year-old from New Jersey.

To use an example from my own profile, I had a picture where I am holding a gun. I wasn’t breaking any laws, I don’t even own a gun (the picture was from a shooting range) and what I was doing was perfectly legal, but the picture was removed, twice.

It’s annoying and indeed lame that a site that we’ve all become so dependent on has dragged the lowest common denominator so far down. As mentioned above, this false sense of security is created for all those lazy parents who want to believe that their irresponsible child is “safe” on facebook.

]]> By: Spuds http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2284530 Spuds Fri, 09 May 2008 07:59:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2284530 I am all for increased safety and privacy but will it really achieve what they think it will.....NO! I am all for increased safety and privacy but will it really achieve what they think it will…..NO!

]]> By: Scoop: Facebook To Announce Safety And Privacy Deal With 49 States | Technology Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2284435 Scoop: Facebook To Announce Safety And Privacy Deal With 49 States | Technology Blog Fri, 09 May 2008 06:01:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2284435 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: Smart http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2284025 Smart Thu, 08 May 2008 22:29:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2284025 This totally ignores other countries with ages of consent lower than 18 (like everyone but US)... but I supposed these rules will apply to all regardless? Also, that standard button made by New Jersey AG is HIDEOUS. I think it needs more exclamation points - definitely. This totally ignores other countries with ages of consent lower than 18 (like everyone but US)… but I supposed these rules will apply to all regardless?

Also, that standard button made by New Jersey AG is HIDEOUS. I think it needs more exclamation points - definitely.

]]> By: LN http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283959 LN Thu, 08 May 2008 21:38:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283959 I can't wait to see how many children are saved by this groundbreaking legislation! And yeah... so no 18 year olds can search for their slightly younger friends, without being tarred as predators? Yay for the US! I can’t wait to see how many children are saved by this groundbreaking legislation!

And yeah… so no 18 year olds can search for their slightly younger friends, without being tarred as predators? Yay for the US!

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 特報：Facebookが49州と子どもの安全・プライバシー保護規制導入で合意 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283956 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 特報：Facebookが49州と子どもの安全・プライバシー保護規制導入で合意 Thu, 08 May 2008 21:35:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283956 [...] [原文へ] [...] [...] [原文へ] [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 特報：Facebookが49州と子どもの安全・プライバシー保護規制導入で合意 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283957 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 特報：Facebookが49州と子どもの安全・プライバシー保護規制導入で合意 Thu, 08 May 2008 21:35:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283957 [...] [原文へ] [...] [...] [原文へ] [...]

]]> By: Ruslan http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283916 Ruslan Thu, 08 May 2008 20:51:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283916 As always shity parents delegate their parents' responsibilities of control what their kids doing to somebody else. How lame ! No wonder why some of these forgotten kids then buy guns and start shooting to classmates. As always shity parents delegate their parents’ responsibilities of control what their kids doing to somebody else. How lame ! No wonder why some of these forgotten kids then buy guns and start shooting to classmates.

]]> By: Dave Barnes http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283842 Dave Barnes Thu, 08 May 2008 19:22:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283842 It is "attorneys general" and not "attorneys generals". It is “attorneys general” and not “attorneys generals”.

]]> By: Tony http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283829 Tony Thu, 08 May 2008 19:10:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283829 "But I wasting my words expecting parents to take more responsibility for their children when there are those in government and non-profits ready and willing to take that responsibility over." It's part of the overall trend of giving up personal responsibility. As long as the government is ready to step in and take care of the problem (which it does with such great efficiency!), people will continue to be willing to relinquish responsibility to the government, and then blame the government when things go wrong. “But I wasting my words expecting parents to take more responsibility for their children when there are those in government and non-profits ready and willing to take that responsibility over.”

It’s part of the overall trend of giving up personal responsibility. As long as the government is ready to step in and take care of the problem (which it does with such great efficiency!), people will continue to be willing to relinquish responsibility to the government, and then blame the government when things go wrong.

]]> By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » More May '08 blogging http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283811 Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » More May '08 blogging Thu, 08 May 2008 19:02:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283811 [...] Facebook is announcing all sorts of onerous “keep this place clean” efforts. Though I certainly support these efforts and I’m sorry for the extra costs they’ll incur I also think this will slow down the ‘opening up of user’s data’. [...] [...] Facebook is announcing all sorts of onerous “keep this place clean” efforts. Though I certainly support these efforts and I’m sorry for the extra costs they’ll incur I also think this will slow down the ‘opening up of user’s data’. [...]

]]> By: Rodney Rumford http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283775 Rodney Rumford Thu, 08 May 2008 18:39:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283775 I think they simply had to play nice as they become more mainstream and many people need to feel "protected" by their government officials. Looks like a lot of work to stay in compliance with all that they are announcing. No one really talked about the implications for FB developers. The whole issue of age now comes into play with app development. ;) Rodney Rumford http://www.facereviews.com I think they simply had to play nice as they become more mainstream and many people need to feel “protected” by their government officials.

Looks like a lot of work to stay in compliance with all that they are announcing.

No one really talked about the implications for FB developers. The whole issue of age now comes into play with app development. ;)

Rodney Rumford
http://www.facereviews.com

]]> By: Borris http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283732 Borris Thu, 08 May 2008 18:15:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283732 yeah, this is pointless. all this is going to do is lull parents and probably kids into a false sense of security. yeah, this is pointless. all this is going to do is lull parents and probably kids into a false sense of security.

]]> By: Phil http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283638 Phil Thu, 08 May 2008 17:16:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283638 @24: The age of consent is 16/17 in most states in the US, so they can date anyone older. Some states have laws where a 3 year difference in age is allowed for teens, or when they are both under 21, etc. @24: The age of consent is 16/17 in most states in the US, so they can date anyone older. Some states have laws where a 3 year difference in age is allowed for teens, or when they are both under 21, etc.

]]> By: alexanderpink http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283622 alexanderpink Thu, 08 May 2008 17:02:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/08/breaking-facebook-to-announce-safety-and-privacy-deal-with-49-states/#comment-2283622 Stupid. No links to pronographic sites? What is wrong with adults using social networks in an adult manner? This will not reduce any criminal activity, facebook is already safe, just make your profile private and don't add anyone you don't know if you are scared of predators! Parents should be responsible for governing and educating their children. The rest of society shouldn't have to cater to the fears of the few. I think fb should have fought this...why let anyone intrude on your business with regulation when it may not be required by law (IANAL). It's not even the right thing to do b/c it will not reduce crime and limits users options. Stupid. No links to pronographic sites? What is wrong with adults using social networks in an adult manner? This will not reduce any criminal activity, facebook is already safe, just make your profile private and don’t add anyone you don’t know if you are scared of predators! Parents should be responsible for governing and educating their children. The rest of society shouldn’t have to cater to the fears of the few. I think fb should have fought this…why let anyone intrude on your business with regulation when it may not be required by law (IANAL). It’s not even the right thing to do b/c it will not reduce crime and limits users options.

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