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	<title>Comments on: What To Do With Failed Startup IP?</title>
	<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 09:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve Waterhouse</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2285582</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Waterhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2285582</guid>
		<description>If your company has patents, there is now a growing liquid market in which you can sell them. In some cases the patents can be sold with a license back to
the rights which can enable you to sell the rest of the assets of the company or continue operating.

Our firm specializes in finding buyers for patents. Please check out our
web site and get in touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your company has patents, there is now a growing liquid market in which you can sell them. In some cases the patents can be sold with a license back to<br />
the rights which can enable you to sell the rest of the assets of the company or continue operating.</p>
<p>Our firm specializes in finding buyers for patents. Please check out our<br />
web site and get in touch.</p>
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		<title>By: Business News Research &#187; Xobni Acquires IP From Failed Web 1.0 Startup FireDrop</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2282275</link>
		<dc:creator>Business News Research &#187; Xobni Acquires IP From Failed Web 1.0 Startup FireDrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 01:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2282275</guid>
		<description>[...] is an interesting story in light of the discussion yesterday about the fate of the intellectual property of failed startups. Email startup Xobni, which recently [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] is an interesting story in light of the discussion yesterday about the fate of the intellectual property of failed startups. Email startup Xobni, which recently [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Xobni Acquires IP From Failed Web 1.0 Startup FireDrop : VCsAndAngels</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2281301</link>
		<dc:creator>Xobni Acquires IP From Failed Web 1.0 Startup FireDrop : VCsAndAngels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 16:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2281301</guid>
		<description>[...] is an interesting story in light of the discussion yesterday about the fate of the intellectual property of failed startups. Email startup Xobni, which recently [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] is an interesting story in light of the discussion yesterday about the fate of the intellectual property of failed startups. Email startup Xobni, which recently [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Xobni Acquires IP From Failed Web 1.0 Startup FireDrop</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2281297</link>
		<dc:creator>Xobni Acquires IP From Failed Web 1.0 Startup FireDrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 16:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2281297</guid>
		<description>[...] is an interesting story in light of the discussion yesterday about the fate of the intellectual property of failed startups. Email startup Xobni, which recently [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] is an interesting story in light of the discussion yesterday about the fate of the intellectual property of failed startups. Email startup Xobni, which recently [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Riciclare il lavoro intellettuale delle startup fallite &#124; Vittorio Pasteris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2279684</link>
		<dc:creator>Riciclare il lavoro intellettuale delle startup fallite &#124; Vittorio Pasteris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 06:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2279684</guid>
		<description>[...] Michael Harrington su Techcrunch propone di rendere tutto disponibile con una licenza Creative Commons [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Michael Harrington su Techcrunch propone di rendere tutto disponibile con una licenza Creative Commons [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael F. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2278983</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael F. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 03:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2278983</guid>
		<description>Michael,

Not a bad idea.  In fact, I'm the founder of a company specifically focussed on solving this problem.

http://brokensymmetry.typepad.com/broken_symmetry/2008/05/stranded-rd.html

Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Not a bad idea.  In fact, I&#8217;m the founder of a company specifically focussed on solving this problem.</p>
<p><a href="http://brokensymmetry.typepad.com/broken_symmetry/2008/05/stranded-rd.html" rel="nofollow">http://brokensymmetry.typepad......ed-rd.html</a></p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Will Connell</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2278329</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Connell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 00:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2278329</guid>
		<description>How about contributing the IP to a patent pool that offers cheap licenses to future startups. The license would allow any holder to use any of the IP in the patent pool with out fear of infringement. I envision the patent pool being more of an IP insurance policy ensuring you don't end up getting sued for infringement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about contributing the IP to a patent pool that offers cheap licenses to future startups. The license would allow any holder to use any of the IP in the patent pool with out fear of infringement. I envision the patent pool being more of an IP insurance policy ensuring you don&#8217;t end up getting sued for infringement.</p>
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		<title>By: phenom</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2278090</link>
		<dc:creator>phenom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 23:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2278090</guid>
		<description>File a patent or sell the idea if to some giant.
http://vidsonly.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>File a patent or sell the idea if to some giant.<br />
<a href="http://vidsonly.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://vidsonly.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: QEIII</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2277789</link>
		<dc:creator>QEIII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2277789</guid>
		<description>When our dotcom failed, we had one member buyout the other member and try to make something work from it (which it didn't, but some people have to try, you know).  We tried to find a bunch of different things to make that happen-- we even looked at the selling a business book that PiNi was talking about.  It's a good book, but we found one that's all about buyouts called i think Business Buyout Agreements put out by Nolo.  It had all the forms that we needed, and at least one of us got out of the dotcom business with our hands clean!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When our dotcom failed, we had one member buyout the other member and try to make something work from it (which it didn&#8217;t, but some people have to try, you know).  We tried to find a bunch of different things to make that happen&#8211; we even looked at the selling a business book that PiNi was talking about.  It&#8217;s a good book, but we found one that&#8217;s all about buyouts called i think Business Buyout Agreements put out by Nolo.  It had all the forms that we needed, and at least one of us got out of the dotcom business with our hands clean!</p>
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		<title>By: jamboree</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2277345</link>
		<dc:creator>jamboree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2277345</guid>
		<description>I have a feeling Arrington is secretly referring to Omnidrive. From what I hear the app was great when it worked. So if the technology is sound it would probably still be worth a lot to acquirers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a feeling Arrington is secretly referring to Omnidrive. From what I hear the app was great when it worked. So if the technology is sound it would probably still be worth a lot to acquirers.</p>
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		<title>By: PiNi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2277090</link>
		<dc:creator>PiNi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2277090</guid>
		<description>I worked for dotcoms for several years.  The last startup company I worked for had a team of excellent engineers all from ivy league universities.   The ideas they had were innovative but eventually they ran out of money and got screwed over by lousy workmanship overseas.     They tried to sell everything at the end.  We found some really good information in Complete Guide to Selling a Business by attorney Fred Steingold including the transferring of intellectual property and noncompete agreements.    We all learned a lot during those last months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for dotcoms for several years.  The last startup company I worked for had a team of excellent engineers all from ivy league universities.   The ideas they had were innovative but eventually they ran out of money and got screwed over by lousy workmanship overseas.     They tried to sell everything at the end.  We found some really good information in Complete Guide to Selling a Business by attorney Fred Steingold including the transferring of intellectual property and noncompete agreements.    We all learned a lot during those last months.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest Nova</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2277059</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernest Nova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2277059</guid>
		<description>One suggestion for automatic release of IP could be implemented as follows. A non profit offers a source code escrow service. Functioning companies renew their escrow agreements every six months.  A company that gets sold/merged terminates its agreement and removes code from escrow. The "release of source code" clause provides for the following:
 A company that fails to renew its agreement, and does not respond to reasonable notice -  will have its source code released under a open source friendly license, a determination that the company is defunct having been made.  

This is sort of a living will or trust for the IP of the company. The beneficiary is the company when alive, and the non-profit when dead.

p.s

Most startups will fancy the thought that there is some buyer out there for their IP, and the investors will want to recoup some costs, however marginal. 

Most experienced source code buyers understand that any code that comes without developers and one that has not been maintained for a while is usually unusable.  (Enterprise buyers who insist on source code escrow only serve to enrich the coffers of Iron Mountain)

Meanwhile,  hope springs eternal for the seller.. but by the time it is clear that there is no buyer for the asset - there is no engineering talent left to go with the code, and often no one left to negotiate with.


On the notion that the donors can get a tax deduction .. the US IRS wont even let you take a deduction for a used car to a charity unless the charity can show the exact value it got by disposing of the car. What is the value of donated IP ? A can of worms</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One suggestion for automatic release of IP could be implemented as follows. A non profit offers a source code escrow service. Functioning companies renew their escrow agreements every six months.  A company that gets sold/merged terminates its agreement and removes code from escrow. The &#8220;release of source code&#8221; clause provides for the following:<br />
 A company that fails to renew its agreement, and does not respond to reasonable notice -  will have its source code released under a open source friendly license, a determination that the company is defunct having been made.  </p>
<p>This is sort of a living will or trust for the IP of the company. The beneficiary is the company when alive, and the non-profit when dead.</p>
<p>p.s</p>
<p>Most startups will fancy the thought that there is some buyer out there for their IP, and the investors will want to recoup some costs, however marginal. </p>
<p>Most experienced source code buyers understand that any code that comes without developers and one that has not been maintained for a while is usually unusable.  (Enterprise buyers who insist on source code escrow only serve to enrich the coffers of Iron Mountain)</p>
<p>Meanwhile,  hope springs eternal for the seller.. but by the time it is clear that there is no buyer for the asset - there is no engineering talent left to go with the code, and often no one left to negotiate with.</p>
<p>On the notion that the donors can get a tax deduction .. the US IRS wont even let you take a deduction for a used car to a charity unless the charity can show the exact value it got by disposing of the car. What is the value of donated IP ? A can of worms</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Kuhn</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2277056</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Kuhn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2277056</guid>
		<description>Maybe someone could startup a website to keep track of, and sell, failed startup IP, with the entrepreneur behind the magic keeping a slice of the profits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe someone could startup a website to keep track of, and sell, failed startup IP, with the entrepreneur behind the magic keeping a slice of the profits?</p>
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		<title>By: Sashi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2276920</link>
		<dc:creator>Sashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2276920</guid>
		<description>How about creating a non-profit exclusively for this purpose and donating the IP to it. Investors get a tax-write off and the non-profit maybe able to monetize it eventually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about creating a non-profit exclusively for this purpose and donating the IP to it. Investors get a tax-write off and the non-profit maybe able to monetize it eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: dave mcclure</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2276839</link>
		<dc:creator>dave mcclure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2276839</guid>
		<description>interesting topic mike.

how about this:

1) transfer the old IP into a NewCo structure
2) create an "open source" version of the IP usable by others
3a) make the open source GL free to use for non-commercial activities, and 
3b) available on commercial basis via some paid component, perhaps a per-txn model, or default rev-share, or (more complex) minority equity stake.

if you can make 3b simple enough, you can use 2) &#38; 3a) to crowdsource some new opportunities for the IP, and 3b) to monetize it, providing value back to the IP acquirer / owner.

devil is in the details of course, but some possibilities here perhaps...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting topic mike.</p>
<p>how about this:</p>
<p>1) transfer the old IP into a NewCo structure<br />
2) create an &#8220;open source&#8221; version of the IP usable by others<br />
3a) make the open source GL free to use for non-commercial activities, and<br />
3b) available on commercial basis via some paid component, perhaps a per-txn model, or default rev-share, or (more complex) minority equity stake.</p>
<p>if you can make 3b simple enough, you can use 2) &amp; 3a) to crowdsource some new opportunities for the IP, and 3b) to monetize it, providing value back to the IP acquirer / owner.</p>
<p>devil is in the details of course, but some possibilities here perhaps&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Frohwein</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2276698</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Frohwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2276698</guid>
		<description>Selling IP through a third party is often done these days - my company is this kind of company.  Therefore, this isn't a new concept at all.  The concept of agreeing to some clause, up front, that this will be the path you take would probably not work.  It's extremely hard to predict the circumstances upon which you'll want/need to sell IP or the path the company ultimately takes (e.g. if you take a later round of investment, the investor may require differing terms or if you take on debt, IP may need to be secured).  A shifting foundation would potentially require many trips back to those who agree to the clause in the first place to amend it.  Also, there will always be disagreements regarding what IP has "obvious value" on its face.  At the end of the day, it's important to assess your assets and maximize value in the event of liquidation.  The best way to create a positive situation at that time is to make sure you've taken appropriate steps along the way to generate value in the IP, not just the technology or company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selling IP through a third party is often done these days - my company is this kind of company.  Therefore, this isn&#8217;t a new concept at all.  The concept of agreeing to some clause, up front, that this will be the path you take would probably not work.  It&#8217;s extremely hard to predict the circumstances upon which you&#8217;ll want/need to sell IP or the path the company ultimately takes (e.g. if you take a later round of investment, the investor may require differing terms or if you take on debt, IP may need to be secured).  A shifting foundation would potentially require many trips back to those who agree to the clause in the first place to amend it.  Also, there will always be disagreements regarding what IP has &#8220;obvious value&#8221; on its face.  At the end of the day, it&#8217;s important to assess your assets and maximize value in the event of liquidation.  The best way to create a positive situation at that time is to make sure you&#8217;ve taken appropriate steps along the way to generate value in the IP, not just the technology or company.</p>
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		<title>By: Luther</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2276681</link>
		<dc:creator>Luther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2276681</guid>
		<description>If the stuff is patented, the patent office has a public database of patents, and patents can be dedicated to the public. 

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/1400_1490.htm#sect1490

"...In like manner any patentee or applicant may disclaim or dedicate to the public the entire term, or any terminal part of the term, of the patent granted or to be granted."

It isn't easy to sell other people's ideas. People have taste in which intellectual property they are interested in and usually ideas of their own they would prefer to pursue. Generally other people's ideas have to have overwhelming and obvious commercial value to interest other people, and IP from failed ventures already has an onus of "loser." 

Maybe the Salvation Army could open a site for discarded software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the stuff is patented, the patent office has a public database of patents, and patents can be dedicated to the public. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/1400_1490.htm#sect1490" rel="nofollow">http://www.uspto.gov/web/offic.....m#sect1490</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;In like manner any patentee or applicant may disclaim or dedicate to the public the entire term, or any terminal part of the term, of the patent granted or to be granted.&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t easy to sell other people&#8217;s ideas. People have taste in which intellectual property they are interested in and usually ideas of their own they would prefer to pursue. Generally other people&#8217;s ideas have to have overwhelming and obvious commercial value to interest other people, and IP from failed ventures already has an onus of &#8220;loser.&#8221; </p>
<p>Maybe the Salvation Army could open a site for discarded software.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff the Great</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2276596</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff the Great</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2276596</guid>
		<description>I own some IP....founder spent about $700k developing it about 10 years ago. Think I could get anything for it or has technology moved too far beyond? It is client management software for the finance industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own some IP&#8230;.founder spent about $700k developing it about 10 years ago. Think I could get anything for it or has technology moved too far beyond? It is client management software for the finance industry.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2276403</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2276403</guid>
		<description>jeff @22 is bang on

abe @8, very few companies start by open-sourcing their code if what they are doing is unique.  A common reason to later open source is that they are relying on something with a GPL license and they then have no choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jeff @22 is bang on</p>
<p>abe @8, very few companies start by open-sourcing their code if what they are doing is unique.  A common reason to later open source is that they are relying on something with a GPL license and they then have no choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Cheng</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2276145</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Cheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2276145</guid>
		<description>I can't wait until I'm middle aged enough to troll the net for Techtique (tech + antique) bargains on a lazy Sunday morning. Even just browsing would be fun.

Ooo! Code for a transactional e-commerce system for pet products! Wow! An automated ITIL database manager! Hey! Is a RISC processor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait until I&#8217;m middle aged enough to troll the net for Techtique (tech + antique) bargains on a lazy Sunday morning. Even just browsing would be fun.</p>
<p>Ooo! Code for a transactional e-commerce system for pet products! Wow! An automated ITIL database manager! Hey! Is a RISC processor?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2275714</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 14:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2275714</guid>
		<description>Having launched http//www.parisenvies.com/ I am now seeking investors (the business plan is pretty solid anyway).

What I'm thinking, is that if I don't find investors, I might very well open source the core system (a social network for local bars and restaurants with upfront support for multiple domains (cities) all the places data is essentially a wiki with reviews).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having launched http//www.parisenvies.com/ I am now seeking investors (the business plan is pretty solid anyway).</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m thinking, is that if I don&#8217;t find investors, I might very well open source the core system (a social network for local bars and restaurants with upfront support for multiple domains (cities) all the places data is essentially a wiki with reviews).</p>
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		<title>By: jeff nolan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2275689</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff nolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 14:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2275689</guid>
		<description>@Nick the Geek,
The problem with licensing IP is that very little tech IP has actual economic value to a third party, and without the team behind it, IP has practically no value. Very few startups have IP that is truly unique, most of it can be recreated and it's very difficult to take someone else's software and make it work for you without the people who built it available to maintain it.

Licensing also assumes there is some entity that can maintain the agreements. 

Let's also not lose sight of the fact that most startups that fail do so because their technology didn't work as promised and/or the opportunity they targeted saw little value in it. No exactly ideal conditions upon which to license something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick the Geek,<br />
The problem with licensing IP is that very little tech IP has actual economic value to a third party, and without the team behind it, IP has practically no value. Very few startups have IP that is truly unique, most of it can be recreated and it&#8217;s very difficult to take someone else&#8217;s software and make it work for you without the people who built it available to maintain it.</p>
<p>Licensing also assumes there is some entity that can maintain the agreements. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s also not lose sight of the fact that most startups that fail do so because their technology didn&#8217;t work as promised and/or the opportunity they targeted saw little value in it. No exactly ideal conditions upon which to license something.</p>
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		<title>By: YouYap.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2275656</link>
		<dc:creator>YouYap.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 14:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2275656</guid>
		<description>Why wait? I say scrap it before it fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why wait? I say scrap it before it fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2275475</link>
		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 14:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2275475</guid>
		<description>Hell if I know
While http://Free.TV did not 'FAIL', I have stopped developing the products.  I have been trying to find someone that would love to use the #1 dotTv domain.
Any takers? Oh,yea - its FREE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell if I know<br />
While <a href="http://Free.TV" rel="nofollow">http://Free.TV</a> did not &#8216;FAIL&#8217;, I have stopped developing the products.  I have been trying to find someone that would love to use the #1 dotTv domain.<br />
Any takers? Oh,yea - its FREE!</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2274970</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-failed-startup-ip/#comment-2274970</guid>
		<description>You're right - what to do with the IP is important.

This should be part of the partnership agreement of the company when its founded. There are several ways:

- put it on eBay and hope for the best
- open source everything
- give it to the creditors
- give it back to the founders

These considerations should become a standard when founding a company, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right - what to do with the IP is important.</p>
<p>This should be part of the partnership agreement of the company when its founded. There are several ways:</p>
<p>- put it on eBay and hope for the best<br />
- open source everything<br />
- give it to the creditors<br />
- give it back to the founders</p>
<p>These considerations should become a standard when founding a company, I think.</p>
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