Comments on: Opera Releases Firebug Alternative: Dragonfly

By: From the Pipeline - 5.6.08 — Shooting at Bubbles

From the Pipeline - 5.6.08 — Shooting at Bubbles — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:51:03 +0000

[...] Opera Releases Firebug Alternative: Dragonfly :: TechCrunch – not to be left behind Opera readies its answer to the Firebug plugin for Firefox. Of course this will only really matter if you are a web developer. [...]

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 31 May 2008 10:36:33 +0000

Having tried both, I prefer Dragonfly, it’s got a hell of a lot of potential, and it’s intial beta release almost completely eclipses what Firebug does.

By: The Aries

The Aries — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:27:50 +0000

Nice post

Thank you for the info

By: Andy

Andy — Wed, 07 May 2008 16:04:26 +0000

It is not ‘Site Problems’ holding Opera back, it’s sloppy developers!

By: links for 2008-05-07 « Breyten’s Dev Blog

links for 2008-05-07 « Breyten’s Dev Blog — Wed, 07 May 2008 11:31:40 +0000

[...] Opera Releases Firebug Alternative: Dragonfly (tags: company & product profiles firefox opera) [...]

By: mvonballmo

mvonballmo — Wed, 07 May 2008 08:50:40 +0000

The article should mention much more prominently that the current release is an alpha version; the lack of CSS editing in an alpha version is more understandable that way.

By: nono

nono — Wed, 07 May 2008 06:00:19 +0000

@Chris

Looks like you are missing the point.

Devtools make it easier to support Opera, which makes more sites work with it, which makes for fewer problems for users, which leads to more users.

Site problems is probably the main thing keeping Opera back.

By: WinExtra » From the Pipeline - 5.6.08

WinExtra » From the Pipeline - 5.6.08 — Wed, 07 May 2008 03:47:16 +0000

By: Toblakai

Toblakai — Wed, 07 May 2008 02:47:10 +0000

Dragonfly will be a good tool even if you don’t use Opera regularly, and it’s useful for testing pages regardless of the browsers market share.

Opera has had the ability to edit html and css on the fly for a long time so I’m sure this will be enabled in Dragonfly before release.

I miss the closeness to the webpage you get with Firebug, on the other hand it was nicer to debug multiple sites at the same time with Dragonfly.

The javascript debugger looks ace, and remote debugging will be a killer feature for handheld devices where some statistics suggest a 50% market share to Opera.

All in all great and on time; I’m sure many devs will split their time between Firebug and Dragonfly hereafter.

By: Russell Heimlich

Russell Heimlich — Wed, 07 May 2008 02:12:25 +0000

The more developer tools for browsers the better. I have to check my sites across all of them so the more they can help me out, the happier I will be. Since Opera and Firefox generally get things right, there is very little need to spend much time in Opera.

IE on the other hand is a time sink bt atleast there is the IE DOM Explorer toolbar -> http://www.micr...;displaylang=en

Firebug sets the standard.

By: rob zand » Blog Archive » links for 2008-05-06

rob zand » Blog Archive » links for 2008-05-06 — Tue, 06 May 2008 23:55:25 +0000

[...] Opera Releases Firebug Alternative: Dragonfly (tags: javascript) [...]

By: phenom

phenom — Tue, 06 May 2008 23:18:59 +0000

Finally the landing page has disappeared and the site is up

By: nortypig » Blog Archive » Opera Dragonfly ALPHA

nortypig » Blog Archive » Opera Dragonfly ALPHA — Tue, 06 May 2008 22:36:28 +0000

[...] Dragonfly ALPHA gets a few raves today on TechCrunch and Web Worker Daily. Its an Opera alternative to Firebug which looks very [...]

By: Em

Em — Tue, 06 May 2008 22:34:48 +0000

Opera is a fast, safe, lightweight and innovative browser. It’s not as functional as Firefox, with all its extensions, but still it is a great browser. A new feature like Dragonfly could be good for the browser and for the Internet.

By: bufferOverflow » Blog Archive » Dragonfly per Opera non è ancora a livello di Firebug

Tue, 06 May 2008 21:15:57 +0000

[...] aver letto di Dragonfly su Techcrunch, ho deciso di scaricare Opera 9.50 beta 2 che incorpora questo interessante debugger per pagine web [...]

By: Jason

Jason — Tue, 06 May 2008 20:48:41 +0000

@alien – Never comment again.

By: güvenlik

güvenlik — Tue, 06 May 2008 20:09:48 +0000

nice post. mozilla is the best.

By: Markus

Markus — Tue, 06 May 2008 20:07:50 +0000

@Andy

I guess it really depends on the extensions. I agree that there should be a better quality control.

But the extension system itself is very reliable. We run automated performance tests in Firefox with the iMacros extension. So iMacros is the only extension installed. This setup runs without crashes for months

By: Web Browsers

Web Browsers — Tue, 06 May 2008 19:52:21 +0000

Does anyone else having issues with scrollbar (when chosing tabs)? It doesn’t work, can’t scroll. When I try, it comes back to top.

By: antje wilsch

antje wilsch — Tue, 06 May 2008 19:43:55 +0000

opera works well on a mac, but many sites suck on it in xp on a pc
firefox is still under 30% of the market (firebug is a godsend though)
So IE still rules the browser world @aLien. Their stranglehold is diminishing, but slowly. Many consumer facing customers still have 80-90% users on IE (some still on netscape even!).

By: Andy Gongea

Andy Gongea — Tue, 06 May 2008 19:33:59 +0000

@Markus

It is also their main reason for multiple crashes. So two thumbs up – half thumb down

By: Andy Gongea

Andy Gongea — Tue, 06 May 2008 19:32:53 +0000

As the marine in the Starcraft 2 trailer:

IT’S ABOUT TIME

By: Markus

Markus — Tue, 06 May 2008 19:23:55 +0000

>but what’s clearly visible is the advantage of Firefox’ extension-system

Exactly!

By: mattomatte

mattomatte — Tue, 06 May 2008 18:56:29 +0000

nice article thx

By: Sebastian

Sebastian — Tue, 06 May 2008 18:34:07 +0000

It’s alpha, but for now, it doesn’t look like anything special compared to Firebug, even if you consider the things that are planned.
Firebug is open source, Firebug has the features Dragonfly has, Firebug has a JavaScript-console for other browsers, etc.

It’s nice to see Opera catching up on this one, but what’s clearly visible is the advantage of Firefox’ extension-system – no matter how good Opera’s default distribution is. If Firefox was a closed system, Joe Hewitt wouldn’t have developed Firebug (because it wouldn’t have been possible) and neither Microsoft nor Opera would have played catch-up.

This would have been worth mentioning in the article.