Comments on: Arrington and Ross Sorkin Talk About Yahoo On Charlie Rose

By: Mighty Sam Faceball

Mighty Sam Faceball — Fri, 09 May 2008 05:06:41 +0000

Andrew Ross Sorkin says “Bill Miller. Bill Miller. Bill Miller. Blah Blah Blah.”

What a load of crap.

Andrew Ross Sorkin says “Yak Yak Yak. Wah. Wah. Wah.”

Who the frick is Andrew Ross Sorkin.

Jeeze. Charlie Rose show looks like a morgue. Good thing Arrington didn’t go there. Otherwise he might have caught ebola virus or something contageous at PBS.

By: Michael Campbell

Michael Campbell — Wed, 07 May 2008 14:36:42 +0000

My “corporations experience with Twitter is irrelevant?” I would hardly call the ability to reach thought leaders and decision makers in my market irrelevant. The only thing that’s irrelevant is your argument that, “Search is not quickly becoming secondary to anything.” Search is becoming secondary to social networks in many markets.

By: Amy Huang

Amy Huang — Wed, 07 May 2008 04:29:40 +0000

@Brian LOL “infighting, factions and a mysterious beast” yea it’s hard to read the label when you are the can. You are obviously a master debater and love to do it every day.

By: jf

jf — Wed, 07 May 2008 02:42:27 +0000

Can I ask a dumb question? What does it mean that more than 100% of Microsoft’s profits are tied up in Windows & Office?

By: bambooo

bambooo — Wed, 07 May 2008 02:37:04 +0000

Yahooooooooooooooooooooooooooo is a great Company…………………………………………………. Good Luck

By: Hendra

Hendra — Wed, 07 May 2008 01:55:41 +0000

Is Arrington a big fan of Microsoft?

By: chance

chance — Wed, 07 May 2008 01:34:37 +0000

If Yahoo or MSN really wants to be a search company – then they should just white out their home page and put a single search bar like Google.

Everything else is just a distraction to the branding of search and on Yahoo – people ready sports, finances, news, but don’t search. On Google, there is nothing to do but search. Of course, if Yahoo abandons the content and goes only with search, the users might go away also. In the 90’s Yahoo was the web directory for everything.

If yahoo really wants to lead in Search, it has to Brand an independent venture as its Search Engine, Genie, wizard, etc. Otherwise, consumers will not know they are supposed to equate Yahoo = search.

By: bambooo

bambooo — Wed, 07 May 2008 01:31:37 +0000

tc …..

By: Brian Mingus

Brian Mingus — Wed, 07 May 2008 01:04:50 +0000

@Amy Huang, right, just without the plane crash, deserted island, all of which is on fire, cold blooded murder, infighting, factions and a mysterious beast. Good analogy!

By: Amy Huang

Amy Huang — Wed, 07 May 2008 00:59:11 +0000

@Brian Sounds like someone needs a hobby. Looks like Lord of the Flies mentality around here.

By: Brian Mingus

Brian Mingus — Wed, 07 May 2008 00:48:29 +0000

@Michael Campbell

Your “corporation’s” experience with twitter is irrelevant.

MonthlyTweets = 12,000,000 // Tweet Scan
MonthlySearches = 61,000,000,000 // comScore

MonthlyTweets*x = MonthlySearches
x ~= 5,000

Move along now.

By: Peteski

Peteski — Wed, 07 May 2008 00:39:10 +0000

You have to stop letting Enzo cut your hair, try Gino – he’s the best.

By: Michael Campbell

Michael Campbell — Wed, 07 May 2008 00:30:57 +0000

Twitter is a broadcast medium, plain and simple. Some early adopters have 15,000 followers. I doubt if any of them “HAVE TO” search for anything ever again.

I am #1 on Google, MSN and Yahoo for my target keywords. Google is hanging in at my #1 traffic source, but Yahoo is #6 and MSN #7 in terms of traffic, behind PRWeb #2, iTunes #3, StumbleUpon #4 and Twitter #5.

So in reply to @Brian (who seems to have lots of time to comment, leaving 6 of 19 here so far) it’s not just my “personal experience” from Twitter, its hard data, stats collected last month, from sites that my corporation operates.

People can live in the “Google” world as long as they want, with its 2001 search technology. But future traffic (people under 30) lies in (dare I say it) Web 2.0 properties with its social WOM (word of mouth) marketing.

Change happens. Search and its effectiveness have declined. When it comes to getting traffic and paying customers, search has become secondary in many markets. It’s no longer effective at getting the word out and takes too long.

By: Brian Mingus

Brian Mingus — Wed, 07 May 2008 00:12:58 +0000

@qthrul, I just checked out Cranky Geeks. There’s only one problem with that site. Its name is John Dvorak.

By: antje wilsch

antje wilsch — Wed, 07 May 2008 00:08:33 +0000

I thought Aaron was older than that… geesh he looks like a young’un (and hate that he said “a advertising xxx” it’s like nails on a chalkboard… (picky picky). ”
Mike, like the pen touch

By: Brian Mingus

Brian Mingus — Wed, 07 May 2008 00:06:04 +0000

@qthrul, I can see that. I’d like to see a bloggingheads.tv version of the Gillmore Gang chats, which I think might be similar to what your suggesting, although not sure about the crossfire format. Occasionally completely ludicrous comments creep in there. I think most of them would be avoided if they were all on camera.

By: Techcrunch attack health care!!

Techcrunch attack health care!! — Wed, 07 May 2008 00:03:46 +0000

We need to protest against the government for giving too much healthcare access for seniors & upper class seniors. They always get everything they want.

http://news.goo...amp;btnG=Search

Every seniors who frought WW2, Vetinam wars, etc… They all give us too much trouble for younger generation. War on terrorism, 9/11, everything is brainwashing. We want higher budget cuts on healthcare!

People today, they can’t even afford anything… minnesota electric, oil, and whole thing is turning upside down.

Techcrunch Go attack Healthcare plan!!!

By: Jay (Twitter @qthrul)

Jay (Twitter @qthrul) — Tue, 06 May 2008 23:52:14 +0000

@Brian Mingus – Okay, so cycle out the Andrew seat periodically. It could be like Cranky Geeks end of the table seat… only more relevant.

By: Brian Mingus

Brian Mingus — Tue, 06 May 2008 23:51:25 +0000

@ previous poster

This blog is about economics. It’s run by a freaking economist for crying out loud.

My tolerance for some of the comments around here is shrinking. I should stop reading them.

By: Please budget Cut on healthcare

Please budget Cut on healthcare — Tue, 06 May 2008 23:41:43 +0000

Who cares… It’s worthless talking trash. Why can’t mike talk about economy and inflation?

I think we could save the economy… If we have huge budget cuts on healthcare for retired executives, seniors & upper class seniors. This means we can save billion dollars on food crisis, oil, college education, and other mortgage crisis.

By: Brian Mingus

Brian Mingus — Tue, 06 May 2008 23:35:37 +0000

@Michael Campbell

Your personal experience with twitter is irrelevant. Search is not quickly becoming secondary to anything.

Duh.

By: James Gardiner

James Gardiner — Tue, 06 May 2008 23:33:30 +0000

Wow Mike, good overview at the end.
Exactly what I see happening.
Strange how its hard to get precise and brief description like yours on the web.

I personally still think it will happen (70%), but lower then $30 now.

Microsoft will make Yahoo board pay for letting Yang pull what he did.

This may take 3 months however.

30%, they just go out any by page views..

James

By: Michael Campbell

Michael Campbell — Tue, 06 May 2008 23:31:34 +0000

I agree with Jay Neely’s comment that search is quickly becoming secondary. I’m more likely to broadcast a tweet on Twitter, and get the opinions of people I trust, instead of relying on a search engine, that constantly gets gamed by people in the SEO business.

The search engines are advertising companies now. Google is a verb. Yahoo is still a portal. MSN is a software company that has no memorable online branding.

The take away lesson in all this, are the new kids on the block, like Twitter, StumbleUpon, Facebook, et al. If I was Google, Yahoo, or MSN, I’d be looking to them for the future.

By: Brian Mingus

Brian Mingus — Tue, 06 May 2008 23:29:48 +0000

@qthrul, I doubt it. Michael would own Andrew. Andrew got all of his talking points either from this blog, or out of his arse.

By: sea

sea — Tue, 06 May 2008 23:26:58 +0000

haven’t finish yet, there may be still opportunity for Microsoft.