Comments on: Tagging Goes Semantic With Zigtag http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/ Startup and Tech News Fri, 16 May 2008 11:27:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Martin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2286627 Martin Sat, 10 May 2008 07:30:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2286627 A short question to Jason: I posted a blog entry a couple of days ago linkingto this one, but the trackback either didn't work or you rejected it. I'm pretty new to blogging so I might have done something wrong, but please tell me how to adjust that so that the trackback would appear here (and for all future posts I reference). My post is the last one at http://topify.wordpress.com Thank you! A short question to Jason:

I posted a blog entry a couple of days ago linkingto this one, but the trackback either didn’t work or you rejected it. I’m pretty new to blogging so I might have done something wrong, but please tell me how to adjust that so that the trackback would appear here (and for all future posts I reference).

My post is the last one at http://topify.wordpress.com

Thank you!

]]> By: links for 2008-05-10 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2286051 links for 2008-05-10 Sat, 10 May 2008 00:45:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2286051 [...] Tagging Goes Semantic With Zigtag The basic idea: each tag will be defined, and that synonymous tags (say, New York City and Big Apple) will be linked together automatically. That should make finding your bookmarks easier later on. (tags: folksonomy semantic web tags) [...] […] Tagging Goes Semantic With Zigtag The basic idea: each tag will be defined, and that synonymous tags (say, New York City and Big Apple) will be linked together automatically. That should make finding your bookmarks easier later on. (tags: folksonomy semantic web tags) […]

]]> By: peter http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2283311 peter Thu, 08 May 2008 14:27:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2283311 Tom: You're of course, right but I don't recall seeing any libraries doing this with technology or on-line, though. Sadly, many still live in the stone age. Tom: You’re of course, right but I don’t recall seeing any libraries doing this with technology or on-line, though. Sadly, many still live in the stone age.

]]> By: Tom Hayes http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2283275 Tom Hayes Thu, 08 May 2008 13:52:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2283275 In the words of one of my co-workers, "can you say 'controlled vocabulary'"? Welcome to the world of librarians. We've been doing this for over 100 years. In the words of one of my co-workers, “can you say ‘controlled vocabulary’”? Welcome to the world of librarians. We’ve been doing this for over 100 years.

]]> By: trond http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2283124 trond Thu, 08 May 2008 10:28:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2283124 Just a heads up on Fuzzzy.com, a similar service (albeit not a sidebar-based plugin) that has been online for quite some time, and that also offers a web service interface for developers to use. Figured it might be relevant to this article and its readers... Just a heads up on Fuzzzy.com, a similar service (albeit not a sidebar-based plugin) that has been online for quite some time, and that also offers a web service interface for developers to use.

Figured it might be relevant to this article and its readers…

]]> By: Webmaster Blog | Semantisches Taggen mit Zigtag http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2281666 Webmaster Blog | Semantisches Taggen mit Zigtag Wed, 07 May 2008 20:01:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2281666 [...] einen Artikel bei TechCrunch bin ich auf Zigtag aufmerksam geworden, ein neues Bookmarking Tool, das verspricht, [...] […] einen Artikel bei TechCrunch bin ich auf Zigtag aufmerksam geworden, ein neues Bookmarking Tool, das verspricht, […]

]]> By: Martin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2281617 Martin Wed, 07 May 2008 19:42:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2281617 Sally and Ming and everyone else of course, you are so right about the trouble of finding the correct words/tags to help readers discover your content. I think the problem with tagging is that one needs to make sure the main topics of an entry are very precise, so that it's easily discoverable. Though first one needs to define "precise". Trying to figure it out in my project, so join in if you like :) http://topify.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/tags-and-topics-yin-and-yang-or-a-dysfunctional-marriage/ Sally and Ming and everyone else of course,

you are so right about the trouble of finding the correct words/tags to help readers discover your content. I think the problem with tagging is that one needs to make sure the main topics of an entry are very precise, so that it’s easily discoverable. Though first one needs to define “precise”.

Trying to figure it out in my project, so join in if you like :)
http://topify.wordpress.com/20.....-marriage/

]]> By: Scott Montgomerie http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2281348 Scott Montgomerie Wed, 07 May 2008 17:19:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2281348 Ming, a bookmarklet is available now - http://www.zigtag.com/install/. A plugin for IE is also coming soon. Ming, a bookmarklet is available now - http://www.zigtag.com/install/. A plugin for IE is also coming soon.

]]> By: Ming Yeow http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2281338 Ming Yeow Wed, 07 May 2008 17:11:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2281338 What a fantastic idea - tagging suffers so bad from the lack of semantics, and lack of feedback (what should I be tagging so that I know how i can find my own stuff) and i am very much looking forward to using this when the bookmarklet is ready! What a fantastic idea - tagging suffers so bad from the lack of semantics, and lack of feedback (what should I be tagging so that I know how i can find my own stuff) and i am very much looking forward to using this when the bookmarklet is ready!

]]> By: links for 2008-05-06 « interacting with stuff http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2278004 links for 2008-05-06 « interacting with stuff Tue, 06 May 2008 23:02:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2278004 [...] Tagging Goes Semantic With Zigtag (tags: semantic tagging) [...] […] Tagging Goes Semantic With Zigtag (tags: semantic tagging) […]

]]> By: Ben Good http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2277922 Ben Good Tue, 06 May 2008 22:44:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2277922 I gave it a try and generally liked it though I look forward to the simplicity and portability of the bookmarklet interface when and if it becomes available. I have to admit I was a little disappointed to see it at first as we have been working on a very similar tool for a while now (http://www.entitydescriber.org). The main differences are that ours is built for the academic world (through integration with Connotea) and uses Freebase as the tag dictionary. The value of capturing the semantics right at the time when the user is engaged with the item they are tagging is huge... I'm very curious to see how the semantic tags added by the users compare with those added automatically. My guess is that they will be different and both be useful. I gave it a try and generally liked it though I look forward to the simplicity and portability of the bookmarklet interface when and if it becomes available. I have to admit I was a little disappointed to see it at first as we have been working on a very similar tool for a while now (http://www.entitydescriber.org). The main differences are that ours is built for the academic world (through integration with Connotea) and uses Freebase as the tag dictionary. The value of capturing the semantics right at the time when the user is engaged with the item they are tagging is huge… I’m very curious to see how the semantic tags added by the users compare with those added automatically. My guess is that they will be different and both be useful.

]]> By: Sally Wu http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2277073 Sally Wu Tue, 06 May 2008 19:22:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2277073 I am not great at tagging my own posts. And I am looking forward to there being a tagging tool to help out my readers. Just posted about what I hope to get out of zigtag (and/or other semantic stuff) here: http://webpoet.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/in-need-of-tagging-assistant/ I am not great at tagging my own posts. And I am looking forward to there being a tagging tool to help out my readers. Just posted about what I hope to get out of zigtag (and/or other semantic stuff) here: http://webpoet.wordpress.com/2.....assistant/

]]> By: Nostradamus http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2276723 Nostradamus Tue, 06 May 2008 17:54:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2276723 There are so many emerging semantic web companies now, but few if any make money. The only one that I've heard of that has the best semantic technology (quality, speed) is Relevad (www.relevad.com). It is growing really fast, been profitable for more than 2 years and has many high profile customers (ad networks, publishers, domain parkers, advertisers). Plus it has the best automatic semantic tagging and categorization system on the market. There are so many emerging semantic web companies now, but few if any make money. The only one that I’ve heard of that has the best semantic technology (quality, speed) is Relevad (www.relevad.com). It is growing really fast, been profitable for more than 2 years and has many high profile customers (ad networks, publishers, domain parkers, advertisers). Plus it has the best automatic semantic tagging and categorization system on the market.

]]> By: micfo.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2275152 micfo.com Tue, 06 May 2008 13:10:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2275152 The tagging in social bookmarking sites are most important, the feature of matching keywords looks impressive. The tagging in social bookmarking sites are most important, the feature of matching keywords looks impressive.

]]> By: Ahmet http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2274254 Ahmet Tue, 06 May 2008 10:27:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2274254 I just installed it, it takes a lot of space in the browser and the install is long for a Firefox plugin. But I'm fan of the idea! I just installed it, it takes a lot of space in the browser and the install is long for a Firefox plugin.
But I’m fan of the idea!

]]> By: EH http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2273677 EH Tue, 06 May 2008 08:33:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2273677 Couldn't they just use Wikipedia as their tag library and save the data entry? Couldn’t they just use Wikipedia as their tag library and save the data entry?

]]> By: Erik Jonker http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2273626 Erik Jonker Tue, 06 May 2008 08:21:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2273626 Isn't the nice thing about tags that they are not semantic ? Maybe chaos should rule in tagging, if in doubt add a few extra tags but try not to create a semantic dictionary. However i could be wrong, interesting to see how this develops. When the IE sidebare comes i will surely try it. Isn’t the nice thing about tags that they are not semantic ?
Maybe chaos should rule in tagging, if in doubt add a few extra tags but try not to create a semantic dictionary. However i could be wrong, interesting to see how this develops. When the IE sidebare comes i will surely try it.

]]> By: MyMesh.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2273318 MyMesh.com Tue, 06 May 2008 07:15:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2273318 The semantic web is finally gaining traction... :P The semantic web is finally gaining traction… :P

]]> By: Scott Montgomerie http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2273101 Scott Montgomerie Tue, 06 May 2008 06:33:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2273101 Michael, Zigtag can import delicious bookmarks, and a full delicious sync is on the way in the next couple weeks. A fully public API, allowing the same level of access that delicious's API allows, is also in the works. Michael,
Zigtag can import delicious bookmarks, and a full delicious sync is on the way in the next couple weeks.

A fully public API, allowing the same level of access that delicious’s API allows, is also in the works.

]]> By: Loren Norman http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2273079 Loren Norman Tue, 06 May 2008 06:28:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2273079 Can the Semantic portion be "trained"? {seesmic_video:{"url_thumbnail":{"value":"http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/hB9tzinPIf_th1.jpg"}"title":{"value":"Can the Semantic portion be "trained"? "}"videoUri":{"value":"http://www.seesmic.com/video/EVnlEZHi3x"}}}
]]> By: Michael Campbell http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2273067 Michael Campbell Tue, 06 May 2008 06:25:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/05/tagging-goes-semantic-with-zigtag/#comment-2273067 If Zigtag could import bookmarks from Del.icio.us and others, that would make it a lot more useful. I'm impressed by the thought of having definitions for tags, yet a little nervous that it's privately owned, so in reality, they control the ultimate definitions of things. At least the Digg like voting has the promise of keeping the system in check. If Zigtag could import bookmarks from Del.icio.us and others, that would make it a lot more useful. I’m impressed by the thought of having definitions for tags, yet a little nervous that it’s privately owned, so in reality, they control the ultimate definitions of things. At least the Digg like voting has the promise of keeping the system in check.

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