May 3, 2008

AllRise Presents A Civilized Way To Settle Disputes

Michael Arrington

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I like what I’ve seen so far of Israeli startup AllRise - a website that allows users to file complaints against anyone or anything, argue their case, have the community choose sides, and ultimately vote on who should prevail.

At the very least, it certainly gives me more hope for the future than sites like SueEasy, which aim to produce more, not less, actual lawsuits.

The service is in private beta, but the overview video here (where I grabbed some fuzzy screen shots) shows how it will work. The features are aimed at producing as much user participation as possible. Users can choose to prosecute, defend, or decide cases, as well as vote particular arguments up or down based on quality or level of controversy. In the overview video, the company uses my faux lawsuit with Facebook as an example.

When it launches I’ll be sure to pick a fight with someone and try it out, and I promise to abide by whatever judgment the community makes, as long as they side with me.

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Yes, Arrington, go ahead and use AllRise.com so that you can be sure whether or not and for how many millions (or next time billions?) of dollars you should sue successful companies in Sillicon Valley.

AllRise.com will produce MUCH, MUCH more lawsuits in USA because it will encourage people like you to sue other people/companies.

 
 

There is only one potential flaw.

Will the users have followers or ‘friends’?

As with many social sites - other members become loyal to them - usually automatically siding or voting in alliance with them - once they become Top Members.

If the site does become very popular with a large, representative membership - it could become a great way to argue current news and political events.

Of course, everything depends on the quality of the membership and comments. We want the extreme popularity of Digg but the high quality comments of the Radar.Oreilly blog

 

i see this as more of a niche site to call people out publicly and have a very entertaining debate about who’s right and who’s wrong.

 

Here we go again with another silly website that does nothing to solve real world problems. This could’ve easily been another face book app.

but NO there people have to setup a whole website around a dumb idea.

 

If this is meant as a joke-type site… then they definitely need to add sentencing - make people have to perform embarassing tasks akin to a Japanese Gameshow.

If this is not a joke-site… I can see plenty of defamation cases arising from this - it could get out of hand.

 

I’m tired of sites that are invite only. Your not gmail and the scarcity thing wore off after the last 50 sites tried that approach. But at least it gives TC some exclusive coverage.

Also what were they thinking by putting a GOOGLE AD in the SCREENCAST introducing the site? There shouldnt be ads on a new site until a decent userbase is built and you can actually make money. This is not even launched yet…

Trolling aside… I did really want to check this out because it seemed interesting.

 

@ 5
@ Arrington

AllRise can be used to create buzz. People will refer to AllRise.com when there is a funny or strange case.

Arrington could use this website to be encouraged in his intention to sue Facebook when there are more people backing his case on AllRise.com

In USA there are millions of stupid people who would want to sue someone if they are encouraged. AllRise.com offers them a way to get the encouragement they are looking for before sueing someone in real life.

I have left USA mainly because I had enough of these daily threats like “I’m gonna sue you!” Now these crazy people have AllRise.com. They will start suing people online and then they will switch to the real world.

I am wondering how Arrington can hold these lawsuits against him. Maybe because he is also sueing other people/companies.

I just want peace.

Interestingly, Allrise.com is a company from Israel…

Rise and fall, “civilization”…

 

Will they allow me to Sue Israel because of all thier crimes in Gaza and West Bank , or they will just block me since they are based on Israel !

I hope that the governments will not have hands on such service.

Regards

 

There is a Facebook application that is very similar:

http://apps.facebook.com/justiceserved/

Cheers,

A.

 

Well… you know it’s a good idea when clones start popping out of the woodwork. Does this make SueEasy the Facebook/Myspace in this niche, by default?

 

Hi,

we are very excited to appear here, and so soon…

i just want to emphasize some things regarding AllRise.com:

1. its only the alpha, we still have things to improve and new features to add. but we will take it step by step (we spent many of our nights and weekends in the last 7 months outside of our day jobs to bring life to idea behind allrise, so be patient with us :).

2. AllRise.com was built to solve two problems:1. There is not one good place to release the tension society creates.2. In the age of web 2.0 users get the chance to speak what ever is on their mind, but a good way to debate, argue or discuss does not exist out there.

we hope that this platform will help user is many aspects
promote things they think are important to be raised publicly, test a case before they go to trial with it, release frustrations and bring attention to injustices
but, mainly we hope to encourage (as michael said it perfectly) civilized debates over funny issues, serious issues and even sureal issues.

3. “dmix” - the google ads are part of the imbeded video player… u dont have to click on them just yet… :)

4. Ahmad - as long as your case follows the site basic rules, any case is eligible.

5. feel free to register, and we will soon send invitations
http://www.allrise.com/

Have a great weekend

 

Great domain name! Could be a good place for lawyers n judges to see the community opinion…

 

pretty stupid idea. Lets forget the legal problems this thing will generate. But the problem I see is the site looks way too serious. Some moron user(and don’t tell me there won’t be moron users) will think this thing is legit. If this site is for fun, then sure it may be ok…but I agree with the other person it may have some life as a facebook app but as a standalone? Don’t hold your breath.

The domain name IS good…so these guys should just drop the project and code up some social network for lawyers with user ratings/lead generation.

 

Well, i am going to sue AllRise !!!!
Be ready ! I can strike anytime… but i need their invitation to sue them. lol

 

This might be fun and educational as a destination site and a kind of game, but the prospects for being taken seriously by any court are really slim.

 

pretty funny. it is a joke right?

 

No startup should ever host their demo videos on a video sharing site. Amazon S3 is dirt cheap and your demo video is one of the precious few opportunities you will ever have to exercise control over your media environment.

One of Mike’s links went to an all rise page. The video didn’t play, but I did see headlines in the top of the player about Matt’s frustration about *rg@sms and c*nd*ms. Then something about s*x tapes.

So I tried another link that went to sclipo. The video played but sclipo superimposed ads on the lower screen for marriage counseling and such.

Since my first attempt to view the clip primed my head for s*x I couldn’t escape the feeling that the background music for their video reminded me of a p*rn tape. (Not that I watch them)

Is there anything more basic than careful messaging? So sloppy. Not inspiring for a team that wants to help spread justice.

 

Response Brian Sullivan -

I couldn’t agree more with you.

the fact it is presented the way it is, is due to some circumstances we could not fully control, those affected the video, the background music and its presentation.

we hope you will enjoy the site itself. :)

Dan

 

There is no excuse not to control the environment in which it is shown

1. Get an S3 account
2. Download JW FLV media player
3. Generate and paste the flv HTML into your home page
4. Upload FLV to S3

30 minutes, no excuses.

I know how difficult and time consuming video production can be, especially when you are getting started. I’m not intending to be overly critical of the actual video. It is what it is and you will learn to do better.

The damaging dilution of your brand inflicted by your haphazard choice of a media outlet is the problem that needn’t exist and can be fixed in less than an afternoon. (It is 11:30 AM in San Francisco, I will check back at 5 PM - I dare you to do your firm a favor and fix this.)

 

Dan - congrats on taking the idea of creating an environment for civil debate on the web.

What was your inspiration for creating it? Do you see it as a place where people may get quasi legal advice or at very least create interesting discussions? Do you envision having the community police other users in cases of abuse (read bored trolls with a chip on their shoulder)?

Hat off to you for going for it - it takes courage to move forward with your ideas and I hope it is a huge success.

Cheers - Eric

 

This is better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=634wUUjoCVM

Campy but effective!

 

Response to Eric Dewhirst:

the inspiration came from two events. a very big public trial that took place in my country, we could see that there is a huge void for people to express there opinion regarding that trial. it was all controlled by the general media.

the second thing was, that personally i allways enjoy a good debate, but i could find a platform that was good enough to do it properly. comments on the bottom of a thread isnt good enough.

our vision for allrise is to be used as a platform, so anyone can use it the way he thinks he needs to: advice, entertainment, debating, stress relief and etc…

regarding the “community police”, we have a few ideas and plans on this matter, but it is too early to discuss it at the moment.

and thank you
:)

Dan

 
 

Judy: I hear ya. This judgin’ stuff ain’t no joke. This thing here ain’t serious.

 

Pure stupidity. These people should be sent to Guantanamo.

PS: start using birth control. Roe v. Wade is gone. Mark my words, bitches.

 

Can I see pictures of the women on this site? Looking for a woman who needs a strong man to administer justice. Call 202-512-1530 and ask for Big Daddy.

 

@Dan

Thanks for the response it is good to see that you have a passion for debate as you can see from the comments here - there are those for and against everything.

Good luck with allrise.com and thanks for bringing a new type of forum for debating to the net.

Cheers - Eric

 

I like the idea, as long as no one takes it too seriously. I think people may be able to discuss things rationally here. Maybe I live in a dream world.

 

Seems like a good idea, but mostly it looks very similar to one of last years Seedcamp finalists: Debatewise.com

Which one do you like better?

 

What? It’s only in alpha and not betas? Why, I’ve got a mind to sue them for falsely raising expectations…

 

Clever idea, i hope it will work and get notice more by VC.

Nat
http://www.workersinc.com

 

Yesh, I hope they get noticed too.

Serg
http://www.google.com

 

Mike, it’s nice to see that you still cover early stage alphas without solicitation. The Israeli founders of AllRise didn’t even know about the post.

You can get more detail on Eran Nachum’s blog (one of the founders):

http://www.eranachum.com/Perma.....da5d9.aspx

or on VC Cafe: http://www.vccafe.com/allrisec.....bitration/

With a focus exclusively on Israeli startups and venture capital deal flow in Israel.

 

“The Israeli founders of AllRise didn’t even know about the post.”

ROFL… hilarious! And they made their introductory video based on Michael Arrington?

I wonder if Michael would be willing to set the record straight.. if he was contacted by these people?

 

Oh.. and not to forget … they actualy GAVE Michael Arrington exclusive access and he took screenshots BEFORE writing the post.

And then these people forget that they contacted him… after the post was written.

If I was Michael Arrington I’d be furious and insulted, at the least. Tsk Tsk

 

Response to David:

we created the video in one afternoon for the barcelona startup2.0 competition.
we used michael case against face book for the competition video, because we knew it will be femiliar to most of the people in the industry and it will help us explain quicker in the video, what AllRise is all about.

michael did not give any exclusive access to AllRise, he took the screen shots from the video we present at http://www.allrise.com. this is the reason the screen shot in his post is fuzzy, u can easly verify it.

we did not know about the post here until we saw a huge amount of people starting to arrive to our site.

we are now allwoing access to certain amount of people for the private alpha, u are welcome to experince it for yourself.

Dan

 

@ Dan, Erez and the entire team -

Congratulations! It’s terrific to see your project go up.

As someone who watched amusingly from the sidelines while this idea was being put together, I can definitely second the fact that the post was unsolicited, and mainly, these guys worked hard on their baby and were just delighted to find out about this blog post.

And to think how hard some of us have to work just to get a mention from Mike, ey? :)

I signed up for Alpha in the meantime - good luck guys!

 

Seems like a fun idea and something many could toy with for a while but not something anyone would remember a year from today. I hope for you guys that I’m wrong.

 

I think it’s just ironic that an Israeli company founded this site. Does that mean that the Palestinians can use this site to settle the decades-long dispute with Israel?

 

RealVerdict.com is fully open to the public as well….just launched. USA-Based.

 

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