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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft/Yahoo: No Deal Today, Markets Look For Announcement Early Monday</title>
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		<title>By: Darren mccoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren mccoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 08:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have already stopped doing business with yahoo - all search traffic comes through g</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have already stopped doing business with yahoo &#8211; all search traffic comes through g</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft/Yahoo: Summary Of News &#38; Bonus Gillmor Gang</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/microsoftyahoo-no-deal-today-markets-look-for-announcement-early-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-2259649</link>
		<dc:creator>Microsoft/Yahoo: Summary Of News &#38; Bonus Gillmor Gang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 04:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Of Today&#8217;s News: Negotiations between Yahoo and Microsoft, widely expected to result in a negotiated deal by Monday, fell apart today. There were a number of statements, all summarized below. Steve Gillmor also [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Of Today&#8217;s News: Negotiations between Yahoo and Microsoft, widely expected to result in a negotiated deal by Monday, fell apart today. There were a number of statements, all summarized below. Steve Gillmor also [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yahoo&#8217;s Tough Week Ahead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yahoo&#8217;s Tough Week Ahead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 03:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] February 1.. That run up included a 7% gain in Yahoo&#8217;s stock price on Friday alone, based on market anticipation of a negotiated deal that would be announced on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] February 1.. That run up included a 7% gain in Yahoo&#8217;s stock price on Friday alone, based on market anticipation of a negotiated deal that would be announced on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft &#8220;Walks Away&#8221; From Yahoo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/microsoftyahoo-no-deal-today-markets-look-for-announcement-early-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-2259003</link>
		<dc:creator>Microsoft &#8220;Walks Away&#8221; From Yahoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 01:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;The market agrees, with Yahoo stock up as much as 11% today. Yahoo closed at $28.68, up about 7% for the day. &#8221; From Tech Crunch [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;The market agrees, with Yahoo stock up as much as 11% today. Yahoo closed at $28.68, up about 7% for the day. &#8221; From Tech Crunch [...]</p>
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		<title>By: metavital's me2DAY</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/microsoftyahoo-no-deal-today-markets-look-for-announcement-early-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-2254316</link>
		<dc:creator>metavital's me2DAY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 07:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;meta의 생각...&lt;/strong&gt;

MS의 야후 인수가 점차 현실로 다가오는 듯....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>meta의 생각&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>MS의 야후 인수가 점차 현실로 다가오는 듯&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: YDRIVE</title>
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		<dc:creator>YDRIVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 01:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$35/share&#039;s very reasonable, as have suggested since long long time ago.. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$35/share&#8217;s very reasonable, as have suggested since long long time ago.. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jgonzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jgonzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 01:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as many are wishing msft would just &#039;go away&#039;, Ballmer wants a deal and they have the cash to make it happen...so. Its funny to think about how red Ballmer&#039;s bald head gets if/when Jerry ups the price a few dollars a share. To walk away would mean msft&#039;s defeat, even though a lot of people on both sides yhoo/msft don&#039;t see a synergy here. 

FD:I&#039;m long yhoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as many are wishing msft would just &#8216;go away&#8217;, Ballmer wants a deal and they have the cash to make it happen&#8230;so. Its funny to think about how red Ballmer&#8217;s bald head gets if/when Jerry ups the price a few dollars a share. To walk away would mean msft&#8217;s defeat, even though a lot of people on both sides yhoo/msft don&#8217;t see a synergy here. </p>
<p>FD:I&#8217;m long yhoo.</p>
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		<title>By: Wahoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wahoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 23:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wahoo Live!

yoo iz pwned yang!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wahoo Live!</p>
<p>yoo iz pwned yang!</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Starrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Starrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 23:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We already how well Microsoft would run Yahoo.  Two words:  Windows Vista.  As for me:  no thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We already how well Microsoft would run Yahoo.  Two words:  Windows Vista.  As for me:  no thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean (Codes)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/microsoftyahoo-no-deal-today-markets-look-for-announcement-early-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-2252589</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean (Codes)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 22:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I think MSN is a poor search engine, a part of me wants it to go through to see if there is a chance to compete against Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I think MSN is a poor search engine, a part of me wants it to go through to see if there is a chance to compete against Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft/Yahoo: No Deal Today! &#171; aGEEKspot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft/Yahoo: No Deal Today! &#171; aGEEKspot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 22:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Microsoft/Yahoo: No Deal&#160;Today!  Jump to Comments Microsoft/Yahoo: No Deal Today, Markets Look For Announcement Early Monday [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 22:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t know anything on how MS will operate Yahoo&#039;s property, do we ?
That&#039;s the most important question to me at least. I don&#039;t care if X or Y is the biggest shareholder, or how much ROI they want for their shares, I just wanna know how things will go for web properties we&#039;re using everyday ( Flickr, del.icio.us, Yahoo Mail ...) Any insight mike ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t know anything on how MS will operate Yahoo&#8217;s property, do we ?<br />
That&#8217;s the most important question to me at least. I don&#8217;t care if X or Y is the biggest shareholder, or how much ROI they want for their shares, I just wanna know how things will go for web properties we&#8217;re using everyday ( Flickr, del.icio.us, Yahoo Mail &#8230;) Any insight mike ?</p>
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		<title>By: Darnell Clayton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darnell Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 21:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although Mike is probably right that this deal is going to go through, I am rather saddened as this means we are headed for a duopoly between the major search powers.

Hopefully someone (somewhere) is developing a rival search engine (that&#039;s half way decent), otherwise we may see an internet cold war develop for the next decade (assuming both companies are able to maintain their mojo over time).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although Mike is probably right that this deal is going to go through, I am rather saddened as this means we are headed for a duopoly between the major search powers.</p>
<p>Hopefully someone (somewhere) is developing a rival search engine (that&#8217;s half way decent), otherwise we may see an internet cold war develop for the next decade (assuming both companies are able to maintain their mojo over time).</p>
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		<title>By: Some Thoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 21:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also hope the Yahoo/MS merger goes through. I agree with the comments here that it would be good for the competition.

A few thoughts on the current Yahoo/Google test:

If Yahoo would quit monetization (and handing their own properties over for monetization to Google would essentially mean this), this would be bad for the Internet industry. It would mean a monopoly for Google on that crucial part of online advertising. 

Sure, it would be good for Yahoo in the short term - it&#039;s common knowledge that Google usually performs better on search monetization (&quot;volvo x70 car dealer boston&quot;) , because their entire system is based on search and based on the long tail. This does not mean, however, that Yahoo underperforms all the time. Yahoo&#039;s system - from the old GoTo days - has been built around high-paying keywords with large volume, so they often even outperform Google considerable on those (&quot;car dealer&quot;). Depending on the application, the latter is often more relevant, and Yahoo has some clear advantages for publishers, too. 

(3) The move would be bad for Yahoo in the long term. They&#039;d be a publisher without advertising sales. Image New York Times or TIME Magazine being 100% dependent on a print advertising sales agency which owns a monopoly on advertising sales? Unthinkable! But that&#039;s exactly what would happen. Google would dictate terms, policies, usage areas, no matter on how good their contract would be phrased.

(4) There is an inherent inventory / conflict of interest problem which Yahoo might not have considered... well, I&#039;m sure they have, but it might have been pushed to the back of their mind in the heat of the moment. We can be pretty sure from publishers&#039; experiences, Google stockholder reports with their focus on TAC (traffic acquisition costs) and Google&#039;s general strategic direction that one of Google&#039;s agendas is to funnel more an more advertiser budgets and resources to their own sides opposed to third-party sites. Seeing it from Google&#039;s perspective, it&#039;s makes of course sense: why have an advertiser spend 1 $ on a partner site, where they make like 30-40 cents, and not on their own site, where they reap the entire 1 $. This inherent conflict of interest by the way has been leading to publishers fleeing DoubleClick after their acquisition by Google, as reported today in a European newspaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also hope the Yahoo/MS merger goes through. I agree with the comments here that it would be good for the competition.</p>
<p>A few thoughts on the current Yahoo/Google test:</p>
<p>If Yahoo would quit monetization (and handing their own properties over for monetization to Google would essentially mean this), this would be bad for the Internet industry. It would mean a monopoly for Google on that crucial part of online advertising. </p>
<p>Sure, it would be good for Yahoo in the short term &#8211; it&#8217;s common knowledge that Google usually performs better on search monetization (&#8221;volvo x70 car dealer boston&#8221;) , because their entire system is based on search and based on the long tail. This does not mean, however, that Yahoo underperforms all the time. Yahoo&#8217;s system &#8211; from the old GoTo days &#8211; has been built around high-paying keywords with large volume, so they often even outperform Google considerable on those (&#8221;car dealer&#8221;). Depending on the application, the latter is often more relevant, and Yahoo has some clear advantages for publishers, too. </p>
<p>(3) The move would be bad for Yahoo in the long term. They&#8217;d be a publisher without advertising sales. Image New York Times or TIME Magazine being 100% dependent on a print advertising sales agency which owns a monopoly on advertising sales? Unthinkable! But that&#8217;s exactly what would happen. Google would dictate terms, policies, usage areas, no matter on how good their contract would be phrased.</p>
<p>(4) There is an inherent inventory / conflict of interest problem which Yahoo might not have considered&#8230; well, I&#8217;m sure they have, but it might have been pushed to the back of their mind in the heat of the moment. We can be pretty sure from publishers&#8217; experiences, Google stockholder reports with their focus on TAC (traffic acquisition costs) and Google&#8217;s general strategic direction that one of Google&#8217;s agendas is to funnel more an more advertiser budgets and resources to their own sides opposed to third-party sites. Seeing it from Google&#8217;s perspective, it&#8217;s makes of course sense: why have an advertiser spend 1 $ on a partner site, where they make like 30-40 cents, and not on their own site, where they reap the entire 1 $. This inherent conflict of interest by the way has been leading to publishers fleeing DoubleClick after their acquisition by Google, as reported today in a European newspaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Starrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Starrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 21:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh...there is not way this can be good for consumers.  I will be pulling all of my business from Yahoo if this goes through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh&#8230;there is not way this can be good for consumers.  I will be pulling all of my business from Yahoo if this goes through.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope MS buys them, 90% of my search engine traffic comes from Google, they have become way too powerful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope MS buys them, 90% of my search engine traffic comes from Google, they have become way too powerful.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, of course. that&#039;s the main upside of the deal, as analysts have noted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, of course. that&#8217;s the main upside of the deal, as analysts have noted.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay (Twitter @qthrul)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay (Twitter @qthrul)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this mean XBox (w)could have a native Flickr mode without XBMC?</description>
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		<title>By: Azhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the deal is done. Google the Goliath really needs some competition in internet market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the deal is done. Google the Goliath really needs some competition in internet market.</p>
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		<title>By: nitsuj</title>
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		<dc:creator>nitsuj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though I have Yahoo stock I hate to see Jerry Yang win.</description>
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		<title>By: Sandeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good day for stockholders. Bad day for Yahoo lovers!</description>
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