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	<title>Comments on: Coming to America: Getting visas to do business in Silicon Valley</title>
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		<title>By: Sean Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-3049942</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Hail - The Lord of the Visa (from LOTR)

Comedy on the Startup Visa (very funny)

http://blog.vidli.com/startup-visa/

Enjoy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Hail &#8211; The Lord of the Visa (from LOTR)</p>
<p>Comedy on the Startup Visa (very funny)</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.vidli.com/startup-visa/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blog.vidli.com/startup-visa/'>http://blog.vid...m/startup-visa/</a></p>
<p>Enjoy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: eric malloy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2999935</link>
		<dc:creator>eric malloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This movement is long overdue. In essence, this is the Ellis Island Visa for the Rich. Please allow me to play Devils Advocate for a second:

The cost of doing business in the United States is rising exponentially due to taxes and mounting inflation. American Business are constantly looking to lower overhead and costs. Besides being placed in the express lane for me and my family to get an American Visa, why would I want to start a business there? Aren’t Americans a bunch of has-beens?

Poor Immigrants in the 1900s came to Chicago and met Boss Tweed. Fast Forward Rich Immigrants come to America meet Jeff Pulver and Uncle Sam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This movement is long overdue. In essence, this is the Ellis Island Visa for the Rich. Please allow me to play Devils Advocate for a second:</p>
<p>The cost of doing business in the United States is rising exponentially due to taxes and mounting inflation. American Business are constantly looking to lower overhead and costs. Besides being placed in the express lane for me and my family to get an American Visa, why would I want to start a business there? Aren’t Americans a bunch of has-beens?</p>
<p>Poor Immigrants in the 1900s came to Chicago and met Boss Tweed. Fast Forward Rich Immigrants come to America meet Jeff Pulver and Uncle Sam!</p>
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		<title>By: Join the Startup Founder Visa Movement &#171; StartupVisa.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2994108</link>
		<dc:creator>Join the Startup Founder Visa Movement &#171; StartupVisa.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Coming to America: Getting Visas to do Business in Silicon Valley &#8211; Michael Arrington / Peter Nixey [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Coming to America: Getting Visas to do Business in Silicon Valley &#8211; Michael Arrington / Peter Nixey [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 080502 Daily Links for May 2, 2008 &#124; johnsumser.com: Recruiting News and Views</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2755017</link>
		<dc:creator>080502 Daily Links for May 2, 2008 &#124; johnsumser.com: Recruiting News and Views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 04:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Coming to America: Getting visas to do business in Silicon Valley &#8221;That’s what makes Silicon Valley so special - it welcomes people from all over the world to come and build their dream. There is less racism, classism, sexism, or general prejudice here than anywhere else I’ve been. Part of it is the unique history of the bay area (See Berkeley and San Francisco), and part of it is that hyper-competition has no place for prejudice, it simply gets weeded out.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Coming to America: Getting visas to do business in Silicon Valley &#8221;That’s what makes Silicon Valley so special &#8211; it welcomes people from all over the world to come and build their dream. There is less racism, classism, sexism, or general prejudice here than anywhere else I’ve been. Part of it is the unique history of the bay area (See Berkeley and San Francisco), and part of it is that hyper-competition has no place for prejudice, it simply gets weeded out.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BusinessVisas</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2754160</link>
		<dc:creator>BusinessVisas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting article! I was just searching for information concerning Business Visas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article! I was just searching for information concerning Business Visas!</p>
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		<title>By: h1bguy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2593081</link>
		<dc:creator>h1bguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i found www.edhwani.com very usefull, they have list of all h1 visa sponsors and their reviews

hope it helps to choose best consultant..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i found <a href="http://www.edhwani.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.edhwani.com'>http://www.edhwani.com</a> very usefull, they have list of all h1 visa sponsors and their reviews</p>
<p>hope it helps to choose best consultant..</p>
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		<title>By: AISSAOUI YAHIA</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2520624</link>
		<dc:creator>AISSAOUI YAHIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an algerian citizen , business man specialty trucks spare parts , i want to visit USA for business , i want to guide me for can get visa business .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an algerian citizen , business man specialty trucks spare parts , i want to visit USA for business , i want to guide me for can get visa business .</p>
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		<title>By: Donsi Brady</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2463075</link>
		<dc:creator>Donsi Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 05:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, H-1B is cheap labor, with lots of immigration issues. It takes so long to get a visa, then a green card. Not worth it. Good for immigration lawyers.

Thanks.
http://www.lawbench.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, H-1B is cheap labor, with lots of immigration issues. It takes so long to get a visa, then a green card. Not worth it. Good for immigration lawyers.</p>
<p>Thanks.<br />
<a href="http://www.lawbench.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.lawbench.com'>http://www.lawbench.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rob Y</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 05:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris Nice argument buddy - it&#039;s the one the corporations and lobbyists favor, and it makes for a nice story that there is extreme shortage...only guess why that&#039;s so?  No, c&#039;mon guess!  Could it be that students aren&#039;t blind and can see and hear that the future for American engineers in this country is not especially guaranteed to be lucrative.  I was in the previous batch who graduated from top-notch engineering schools in the late 90s.  Many of us have had trouble holding onto engineering jobs that pay a decent wage because we are undercut by H1bs working for slave labor wages.  Oh, and those same H1bs get to interview us, the Americans - trust me, they&#039;d rather give the job to their Indian buddy from a third-rate university any day over you, the &#039;privileged&#039; American.  So yeah, believe it or not, sometimes the H1B interviewers aren&#039;t all that objective when helping to select candidates with whom to work.  Ever notice the departments and entire companies that consist almost entirely of Indian H1bs?  Yeah, all you have to do is go to major corporations to view this phenomenon in effect. 

There&#039;s plenty of inherent talent in the US already.  And those who say there isn&#039;t are politicians and business owners who have something to gain - namely, more lucre for their greedy selves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris Nice argument buddy &#8211; it&#8217;s the one the corporations and lobbyists favor, and it makes for a nice story that there is extreme shortage&#8230;only guess why that&#8217;s so?  No, c&#8217;mon guess!  Could it be that students aren&#8217;t blind and can see and hear that the future for American engineers in this country is not especially guaranteed to be lucrative.  I was in the previous batch who graduated from top-notch engineering schools in the late 90s.  Many of us have had trouble holding onto engineering jobs that pay a decent wage because we are undercut by H1bs working for slave labor wages.  Oh, and those same H1bs get to interview us, the Americans &#8211; trust me, they&#8217;d rather give the job to their Indian buddy from a third-rate university any day over you, the &#8216;privileged&#8217; American.  So yeah, believe it or not, sometimes the H1B interviewers aren&#8217;t all that objective when helping to select candidates with whom to work.  Ever notice the departments and entire companies that consist almost entirely of Indian H1bs?  Yeah, all you have to do is go to major corporations to view this phenomenon in effect. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s plenty of inherent talent in the US already.  And those who say there isn&#8217;t are politicians and business owners who have something to gain &#8211; namely, more lucre for their greedy selves.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave D'Rave</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2292014</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave D'Rave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I;m sure that Peter is a nice guy and all, but, you know,

THE OVERALL TONE OF THIS ARTICLE IS HIGHLY MISLEADING.


In most cases, H1-B and similar programs are not being used to do innovative, creative new products.  In most cases, they are being used to import Cheap Slave Labor so as to replace US citizen workers.

Presenting a talented, attractive, non-threatending poster child for immigration is good propaganda, but it is merely propaganda.  How about taking a look at the typical H1-B:  He&#039;s Indian, he got his degree at a diploma mill, he &quot;Talks the English very acceptable, you know right&quot;, he workd for Wipro or ADR, and he&#039;s going to be replacing some poor bastard in the accounting department of your local hospital who is going to lose his house after he loses his job.

Most H1-Bs are not Blond Brits from Oxbridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I;m sure that Peter is a nice guy and all, but, you know,</p>
<p>THE OVERALL TONE OF THIS ARTICLE IS HIGHLY MISLEADING.</p>
<p>In most cases, H1-B and similar programs are not being used to do innovative, creative new products.  In most cases, they are being used to import Cheap Slave Labor so as to replace US citizen workers.</p>
<p>Presenting a talented, attractive, non-threatending poster child for immigration is good propaganda, but it is merely propaganda.  How about taking a look at the typical H1-B:  He&#8217;s Indian, he got his degree at a diploma mill, he &#8220;Talks the English very acceptable, you know right&#8221;, he workd for Wipro or ADR, and he&#8217;s going to be replacing some poor bastard in the accounting department of your local hospital who is going to lose his house after he loses his job.</p>
<p>Most H1-Bs are not Blond Brits from Oxbridge.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmadabadi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2283847</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmadabadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started to work on idea of Hotprints while I was student in States. Although I raised $1 million seed investment, I moved the business to London for the kind of hassle Peter has gone through. 
I got my UK HSMP visa just in 15 days! I applied December 2007 and got it Jan2008 and moved to London in April!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started to work on idea of Hotprints while I was student in States. Although I raised $1 million seed investment, I moved the business to London for the kind of hassle Peter has gone through.<br />
I got my UK HSMP visa just in 15 days! I applied December 2007 and got it Jan2008 and moved to London in April!</p>
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		<title>By: Francesco Federico</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2281252</link>
		<dc:creator>Francesco Federico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 16:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Nixey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2280596</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Nixey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 11:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@joseph lol, you have no idea Joseph :D

@chris banach the E2 was what our lawyers recommended. I would guess that&#039;s because the E1 is for people doing significant trade with the states and as a startup we weren&#039;t trading at all at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@joseph lol, you have no idea Joseph <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@chris banach the E2 was what our lawyers recommended. I would guess that&#8217;s because the E1 is for people doing significant trade with the states and as a startup we weren&#8217;t trading at all at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Professional Business Communications &#187; Getting into the US - legally!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2265755</link>
		<dc:creator>Professional Business Communications &#187; Getting into the US - legally!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 04:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Arrington [TechCrunch] wrote a great blog in which he featured Peter Nixey who talks about his adventurous immigration trials or- as he says [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Arrington [TechCrunch] wrote a great blog in which he featured Peter Nixey who talks about his adventurous immigration trials or- as he says [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Invincibelle Column &#187; The real skinny [story] on getting into the US - legally</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2265716</link>
		<dc:creator>Invincibelle Column &#187; The real skinny [story] on getting into the US - legally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 04:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Arrington [TechCrunch] wrote a great blog in which he featured Peter Nixey who talks about his adventurous immigration trials or- as he says [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Arrington [TechCrunch] wrote a great blog in which he featured Peter Nixey who talks about his adventurous immigration trials or- as he says [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chris banach</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2258063</link>
		<dc:creator>chris banach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 22:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>peter, why didn&#039;t you choose the E1 via ? was much easier and was granted 5 years. actually 7, because each time you enter they grant you 2 years. so the trick is to enter the very last month of the 5th year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>peter, why didn&#8217;t you choose the E1 via ? was much easier and was granted 5 years. actually 7, because each time you enter they grant you 2 years. so the trick is to enter the very last month of the 5th year.</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/02/coming-to-america-getting-visas-to-do-business-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-3/#comment-2257186</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 18:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article has insulted tens of millions of US Workers. Perhaps the words of Senator Bernie Sanders are also applicable here… with all due respect, Sir… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBnKh6B2cMw

&gt; &quot;ten or fifteen still have their hand up&quot;...

The guest worker visa (and student OPT) programs have “RESERVED” millions of high-value jobs for the citizens of foreign countries and these programs, in practice, consistently and routinely DENY, DEPRIVE and EXCLUDE United States Citizens from Equal Employment Opportunity, the law of the land. 
The Department of Justice – Office of Special Counsel has received hundreds (perhaps thousands) of complaints about Head Hunters recruiting based on National Origin and Visa Status. The discrimination complaints have been filed by the Programmers Guild and many others. For example, 

iGate Mastech Inc. to Pay $45,000 in Civil Penalties to Settle Discrimination Claim 
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&amp;STORY=/www/story/05-01-2008/0004804948&amp;EDATE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article has insulted tens of millions of US Workers. Perhaps the words of Senator Bernie Sanders are also applicable here… with all due respect, Sir… <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBnKh6B2cMw" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBnKh6B2cMw'>http://www.yout...h?v=nBnKh6B2cMw</a></p>
<p>&gt; &#8220;ten or fifteen still have their hand up&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>The guest worker visa (and student OPT) programs have “RESERVED” millions of high-value jobs for the citizens of foreign countries and these programs, in practice, consistently and routinely DENY, DEPRIVE and EXCLUDE United States Citizens from Equal Employment Opportunity, the law of the land.<br />
The Department of Justice – Office of Special Counsel has received hundreds (perhaps thousands) of complaints about Head Hunters recruiting based on National Origin and Visa Status. The discrimination complaints have been filed by the Programmers Guild and many others. For example, </p>
<p>iGate Mastech Inc. to Pay $45,000 in Civil Penalties to Settle Discrimination Claim<br />
<a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&amp;STORY=/www/story/05-01-2008/0004804948&amp;EDATE" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&amp;STORY=/www/story/05-01-2008/0004804948&amp;EDATE'>http://www.prne...04948&amp;EDATE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Smarr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Smarr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 17:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter-what a painful and harrowing journey--thanks for taking the time to share your story with us. So I guess adding sreg support was the least of your troubles in the grad scheme of things for making clickpass a success! :) I certainly look forward to your triumphant return to the bay area. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter-what a painful and harrowing journey&#8211;thanks for taking the time to share your story with us. So I guess adding sreg support was the least of your troubles in the grad scheme of things for making clickpass a success! <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I certainly look forward to your triumphant return to the bay area. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mircea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mircea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 11:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another way to come to US (as I came) is to win the Diversity Lottery Visa ( http://dvlottery.state.gov )...I&#039;m curious how many knows about this.

It is hard though...from 8-12 millions of subscribers each each only 50,000 are elected (randomly, by the computer).

I participated 2 times and a third time I won...I guess I was just lucky...and I&#039;m here since 3 years go.

The winner gets a 10 years greencard as a permanent resident with almost all rights an american citizen has (except voting or be elected for a jury). Of course, you can work for any company you want...even for yours.

After 5 years you are eligible to get the citizenship.

Well, good luck to others who wants to come here...winning the lottery or otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another way to come to US (as I came) is to win the Diversity Lottery Visa ( <a href="http://dvlottery.state.gov" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://dvlottery.state.gov'>http://dvlottery.state.gov</a> )&#8230;I&#8217;m curious how many knows about this.</p>
<p>It is hard though&#8230;from 8-12 millions of subscribers each each only 50,000 are elected (randomly, by the computer).</p>
<p>I participated 2 times and a third time I won&#8230;I guess I was just lucky&#8230;and I&#8217;m here since 3 years go.</p>
<p>The winner gets a 10 years greencard as a permanent resident with almost all rights an american citizen has (except voting or be elected for a jury). Of course, you can work for any company you want&#8230;even for yours.</p>
<p>After 5 years you are eligible to get the citizenship.</p>
<p>Well, good luck to others who wants to come here&#8230;winning the lottery or otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 08:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben is right. Indian outsourcing companies definitely play the H1B game to their advantage and short-changed the those who are better qualified to be here on H1B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben is right. Indian outsourcing companies definitely play the H1B game to their advantage and short-changed the those who are better qualified to be here on H1B.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-05-03 &#171; Donghai Ma</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-05-03 &#171; Donghai Ma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 04:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Coming to America: Getting visas to do business in Silicon Valley (tags: business usa immigration visa siliconvalley tips entrepreneur) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 04:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is better to advocate cracking down on indian outsourcing companies abusing it. This will open up slot for legitimate ones. If you keep sequezing workers, there is going to be a big backlash sooner or later and program will be shutdown completly.
 I have hard time beleiving shortage of workers. U.S. is producing more than enough STEM graduates. Companies just do not want to train entry level people and then see them leave. If there is a system that require somone to stay at a job for 3-5 years minimum,  it might stop tech companies&#039; thirst for foreign workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is better to advocate cracking down on indian outsourcing companies abusing it. This will open up slot for legitimate ones. If you keep sequezing workers, there is going to be a big backlash sooner or later and program will be shutdown completly.<br />
 I have hard time beleiving shortage of workers. U.S. is producing more than enough STEM graduates. Companies just do not want to train entry level people and then see them leave. If there is a system that require somone to stay at a job for 3-5 years minimum,  it might stop tech companies&#8217; thirst for foreign workers.</p>
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		<title>By: H1B DATA</title>
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		<dc:creator>H1B DATA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 03:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H1B workers are not supposed to be cheap labors. H1B visa provides critical path to allow American Companies to hire non-American workers and help the company grow and stay competitive. It might sounds cliché but the world is flat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H1B workers are not supposed to be cheap labors. H1B visa provides critical path to allow American Companies to hire non-American workers and help the company grow and stay competitive. It might sounds cliché but the world is flat.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 03:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting story. we tried to send our CEO over to the US (from New Zealand) but his wife wouldn&#039;t have been able to work so it didn&#039;t pan out. 

but it did have a major impact on our company strategy. rather than make the US our main office we&#039;ve had to focus more on Asia and Europe which has turned out well.

for all the communicative joys of technology human contact is still a requirement but restrictions on the movement of labour cause serious inefficiencies in the system. 

an injection of common sense is needed i think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting story. we tried to send our CEO over to the US (from New Zealand) but his wife wouldn&#8217;t have been able to work so it didn&#8217;t pan out. </p>
<p>but it did have a major impact on our company strategy. rather than make the US our main office we&#8217;ve had to focus more on Asia and Europe which has turned out well.</p>
<p>for all the communicative joys of technology human contact is still a requirement but restrictions on the movement of labour cause serious inefficiencies in the system. </p>
<p>an injection of common sense is needed i think.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 01:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron #88,

&gt;Having said that, there are plenty, and I mean a good majority, of “American programmers” who tell all kinds of fairy-tales on their resumes, make up skills, experience etc.. You should see the people we have interviewed. Absolute howlers!


This is very true. I have found that there are two groups of developers (local). One group: very intelligent, hardworking and brilliant. The second group: very intelligent, hardworking, brilliant, extremely quick ....in talking. This second group can move a mountain with their mouth. And unfortunately, there is a large gap between the first group and the second group and the first group are very limited in numbers and can be very expensive.

Oh also, when people say there are a lot of local workers that have been sidelined by the H1B workers..please...you must high on something. Please go to every university&#039;s Computer Science and Computer Engineering department and do a head count on how many students they have. And then see if the head count matches the demand for developers for that state. If the supply exceed the demand, then you can continue talking, if not, please STFU. And please make sure you check the grades of those who did not get hired (that is very important)

And for those who claim that companies are laying off developers and hiring H1B developers, there is a reason for that...the laid off developers most likely is from the second group that i talked about earlier. I rather have a productive H1B developer than a local talker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron #88,</p>
<p>&gt;Having said that, there are plenty, and I mean a good majority, of “American programmers” who tell all kinds of fairy-tales on their resumes, make up skills, experience etc.. You should see the people we have interviewed. Absolute howlers!</p>
<p>This is very true. I have found that there are two groups of developers (local). One group: very intelligent, hardworking and brilliant. The second group: very intelligent, hardworking, brilliant, extremely quick &#8230;.in talking. This second group can move a mountain with their mouth. And unfortunately, there is a large gap between the first group and the second group and the first group are very limited in numbers and can be very expensive.</p>
<p>Oh also, when people say there are a lot of local workers that have been sidelined by the H1B workers..please&#8230;you must high on something. Please go to every university&#8217;s Computer Science and Computer Engineering department and do a head count on how many students they have. And then see if the head count matches the demand for developers for that state. If the supply exceed the demand, then you can continue talking, if not, please STFU. And please make sure you check the grades of those who did not get hired (that is very important)</p>
<p>And for those who claim that companies are laying off developers and hiring H1B developers, there is a reason for that&#8230;the laid off developers most likely is from the second group that i talked about earlier. I rather have a productive H1B developer than a local talker.</p>
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