Comments on: Twitter Reportedly Putting More Gas In The Tank http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:39:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Miles (SEM iCluck) http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2234141 Miles (SEM iCluck) Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:20:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2234141 Again, why does it need more fuel? They should just be putting up ads to the users like Gmail's... Again, why does it need more fuel? They should just be putting up ads to the users like Gmail’s…

]]> By: How Much Is Twitter Worth? http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2230566 How Much Is Twitter Worth? Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:02:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2230566 [...] fairly well known that they are out talking to VCs (it’s hard to keep that quiet), but our sources are saying [...] [...] fairly well known that they are out talking to VCs (it’s hard to keep that quiet), but our sources are saying [...]

]]> By: Christopher Herot http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2229950 Christopher Herot Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:48:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2229950 Twitter creates a lot of value for everyone else in the ecosystem (see Matt's comment in the original Silicon Alley post). At some point one of these other players will buy the company, or Twitter can start charging some of them. Of course once something is no longer free it may not be so attractive. How long would YouTube last if it wasn't free? Twitter creates a lot of value for everyone else in the ecosystem (see Matt’s comment in the original Silicon Alley post). At some point one of these other players will buy the company, or Twitter can start charging some of them. Of course once something is no longer free it may not be so attractive. How long would YouTube last if it wasn’t free?

]]> By: james http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2227679 james Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:06:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2227679 Man, I'm going to be so happy when this bubble bursts and all these guys hopping from one useless startup to the next get shitcanned when the scam becomes clear. Enjoy eating at soup kitchens, bitches. Man, I’m going to be so happy when this bubble bursts and all these guys hopping from one useless startup to the next get shitcanned when the scam becomes clear.

Enjoy eating at soup kitchens, bitches.

]]> By: Dave Litsky http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2226135 Dave Litsky Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:39:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2226135 @22 Carsten "Every week the same Twitter discussion. Fact was, is and probably will be (due to the cost of short messages): This is a nice feature, maybe a platform, it’s not a business." Plus, why would consumers join a social network of self-important posters when Facebook offers the same features and hasn't had the downtime issues that Twitter faces? @22 Carsten

“Every week the same Twitter discussion. Fact was, is and probably will be (due to the cost of short messages): This is a nice feature, maybe a platform, it’s not a business.”

Plus, why would consumers join a social network of self-important posters when Facebook offers the same features and hasn’t had the downtime issues that Twitter faces?

]]> By: Carsten http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2225995 Carsten Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:12:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2225995 Every week the same Twitter discussion. Fact was, is and probably will be (due to the cost of short messages): This is a nice feature, maybe a platform, it's not a business. To be honest: It's quite the opposite of a business. It's burning money big time, and anybody who knows the mobile telco business knows, that this will not change. But there are 100.000s of users you say. Right. That's because they're giving away commodities (short messages) for free. Not that hard to understand. All you Twitter lovers, please take out some paper and a pen and try to calculate the costs of Twitter. And their income. At best, Twitter is a gamble (that some telco will buy it). I think it's a bubble. Twitter will never be a money maker if it's not part of a telco. PS: Don't get me wrong. I like Twitter as a function. But I also recognize a money burner, if I see it. Every week the same Twitter discussion. Fact was, is and probably will be (due to the cost of short messages): This is a nice feature, maybe a platform, it’s not a business.

To be honest: It’s quite the opposite of a business. It’s burning money big time, and anybody who knows the mobile telco business knows, that this will not change.

But there are 100.000s of users you say. Right. That’s because they’re giving away commodities (short messages) for free. Not that hard to understand.

All you Twitter lovers, please take out some paper and a pen and try to calculate the costs of Twitter. And their income. At best, Twitter is a gamble (that some telco will buy it). I think it’s a bubble. Twitter will never be a money maker if it’s not part of a telco.

PS: Don’t get me wrong. I like Twitter as a function. But I also recognize a money burner, if I see it.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2225826 Andrew Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:39:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2225826 I honestly don't see that much use in twitter for the general public...sure its used by a lot of startup founders/bloggers to keep people notified...but thats a very limited market. They are probably hoping for a buyout by something like LinkedIn I honestly don’t see that much use in twitter for the general public…sure its used by a lot of startup founders/bloggers to keep people notified…but thats a very limited market. They are probably hoping for a buyout by something like LinkedIn

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Twitterがタンクにさらに燃料を追加か？ http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2225313 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Twitterがタンクにさらに燃料を追加か？ Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:38:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2225313 [...] [原文へ] [...] [...] [原文へ] [...]

]]> By: Authentic Paid Surveys http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2225159 Authentic Paid Surveys Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:35:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2225159 Today I signed up with twitter just to get on the bandwagon. With so many social networking sites around, I wonder what features would be needed to make it to the top and make some revenue. Today I signed up with twitter just to get on the bandwagon. With so many social networking sites around, I wonder what features would be needed to make it to the top and make some revenue.

]]> By: Eric Dewhirst http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2225010 Eric Dewhirst Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:04:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2225010 Does anyone know what the founders dilution is down to? They did 5.4m on a 20m round, now a 15m on 60m - did they have an angel round? They have a plan for sure - however what will the founders get on exit? I know the talk is about how useless Twitter is - I can't comment on that - they are growing a substantial user base and if they raised 20m with 300,000 users they must have pegged each registered user at $66 per user valuation. I think if they can take it to the next level and continue with their growth they can be a great play. What is their revenue model? Well if I was a betting man it is a million tech savvy - ultra connected - super social - early adopters - that is some pretty targeted eyeballs. Cheers - Eric Does anyone know what the founders dilution is down to? They did 5.4m on a 20m round, now a 15m on 60m - did they have an angel round? They have a plan for sure - however what will the founders get on exit?

I know the talk is about how useless Twitter is - I can’t comment on that - they are growing a substantial user base and if they raised 20m with 300,000 users they must have pegged each registered user at $66 per user valuation.

I think if they can take it to the next level and continue with their growth they can be a great play. What is their revenue model? Well if I was a betting man it is a million tech savvy - ultra connected - super social - early adopters - that is some pretty targeted eyeballs.

Cheers - Eric

]]> By: 2web http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224961 2web Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:24:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224961 I likenconcrete biz plans, but i would value twitted at 2 slides and 500 ning"s I likenconcrete biz plans, but i would value twitted at 2 slides and 500 ning”s

]]> By: jet http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224942 jet Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:57:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224942 $15M at $60 val is low in my opinion. Twitter management does not know the true value of twitter if they take it. I saw a tweet earlier in the week from bjians at Spark saying he had to make a big decision. I wonder if he was referring to twitter. Spark is already into Tumblr which hasn't made much of a mark. Twitter is a new phenomenon, a new kind of killer app and they own the space. $15M at $60 val is low in my opinion. Twitter management does not know the true value of twitter if they take it. I saw a tweet earlier in the week from bjians at Spark saying he had to make a big decision. I wonder if he was referring to twitter. Spark is already into Tumblr which hasn’t made much of a mark. Twitter is a new phenomenon, a new kind of killer app and they own the space.

]]> By: VYROTEK http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224852 VYROTEK Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:42:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224852 Wow, so I came here ready to rant about all this lame Twitter news and discovered everyone else is already sick of it too! Isnt there anything else? Wow, so I came here ready to rant about all this lame Twitter news and discovered everyone else is already sick of it too! Isnt there anything else?

]]> By: Joe Lopp http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224844 Joe Lopp Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:21:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224844 Twitter is a waste of time. Who has the time to update constantly? Who really cares if you are watching TV, walking the dog, etc... if my friends want to find out what I am doing they call. That's a thought! By the way I have just farted... now I am leaving the room... Twitter is a waste of time. Who has the time to update constantly? Who really cares if you are watching TV, walking the dog, etc… if my friends want to find out what I am doing they call. That’s a thought!

By the way I have just farted… now I am leaving the room…

]]> By: fernando http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224841 fernando Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:15:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224841 Michael A is in luv with this glorified, yet stripped down IM system. Until he moves on, we'll continue to be flooded with Twitter posts. Michael A is in luv with this glorified, yet stripped down IM system. Until he moves on, we’ll continue to be flooded with Twitter posts.

]]> By: MrCashyCash http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224840 MrCashyCash Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:12:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224840 I think Twitter, Seesmic & Dancejam should merge. I think Twitter, Seesmic & Dancejam should merge.

]]> By: Sunil http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224831 Sunil Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:05:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224831 If TechCrunch will continue writing 10 posts everyday about Twitter, Twitter may find a big inverstor. TechCrunch, We want news other than Twitter also. Its popular now, Job done. :D If TechCrunch will continue writing 10 posts everyday about Twitter, Twitter may find a big inverstor. TechCrunch, We want news other than Twitter also. Its popular now, Job done. :D

]]> By: 113.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224826 113.com Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:00:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224826 Nice pic... :-D Nice pic… :-D

]]> By: Andrew http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224825 Andrew Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:57:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224825 i am sure verizon will purchase them in due time. i am sure verizon will purchase them in due time.

]]> By: J Liles http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224809 J Liles Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:25:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224809 Twitter is a great example of how "making something people want" is not enough. Business model, anyone? Even if I stipulate that there is value (for some people, not me) to the service, I've yet to see anyone suggest a working monetization scheme for the company. Ads aren't going to do it, and I don't see a critical mass of people paying. Maybe they can partner up with mobile providers so they can hide a small service fee amongst the myriad other charges. Or maybe they're just praying that they can improve the infrastructure and get acquired. But hey, I'm probably an idiot; I don't see how Facebook is going to monetize either. Twitter is a great example of how “making something people want” is not enough. Business model, anyone? Even if I stipulate that there is value (for some people, not me) to the service, I’ve yet to see anyone suggest a working monetization scheme for the company. Ads aren’t going to do it, and I don’t see a critical mass of people paying. Maybe they can partner up with mobile providers so they can hide a small service fee amongst the myriad other charges. Or maybe they’re just praying that they can improve the infrastructure and get acquired.

But hey, I’m probably an idiot; I don’t see how Facebook is going to monetize either.

]]> By: Jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224799 Jason Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:16:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224799 Andrew, because who the hell is going to pay for that? Andrew, because who the hell is going to pay for that?

]]> By: dontclickhere06 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224791 dontclickhere06 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:11:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224791 I think the Twitter bubble is gonna burst soon. But that is just me. I think the Twitter bubble is gonna burst soon. But that is just me.

]]> By: Ryan Spahn http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224779 Ryan Spahn Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:02:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224779 Twitter please allow us to break our followers up into groups! Add tabs to click on for each group, where one tab shows your business followers tweets, another shows your friends' tweets, etc... Twitter please allow us to break our followers up into groups! Add tabs to click on for each group, where one tab shows your business followers tweets, another shows your friends’ tweets, etc…

]]> By: Andy http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224745 Andy Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:36:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224745 A red petrol can? Not seen one of those since they banned 4-star! A red petrol can? Not seen one of those since they banned 4-star!

]]> By: Andrew http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224741 Andrew Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:31:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/twitter-reportedly-putting-more-gas-in-the-tank/#comment-2224741 I don't understand why twitter don't just charge a very small amount/month for the service? It's incredibly popular amongst certain parts of the population - why wouldn't they pay for it? (you wouldn't expect AT&T to give phones and the network for free, would you?) I shall answer my own question by guessing that this is all fear-driven. If they charge and lose 90% of their users, they'll be making money, but look alot less attractive to a buyer. What a nutty world Web2.0 is! I don’t understand why twitter don’t just charge a very small amount/month for the service? It’s incredibly popular amongst certain parts of the population - why wouldn’t they pay for it?

(you wouldn’t expect AT&T to give phones and the network for free, would you?)

I shall answer my own question by guessing that this is all fear-driven. If they charge and lose 90% of their users, they’ll be making money, but look alot less attractive to a buyer.

What a nutty world Web2.0 is!

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