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		<title>By: Facebook Click Fraud Enraging Advertisers &#171; Reviews for NINE tools</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2816252</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Click Fraud Enraging Advertisers &#171; Reviews for NINE tools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] aren’t the standard click fraud complaints that advertisers have leveled against search engines for years. In those cases, bots are racking up [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Facebook visit swindle Enraging Advertisers (Updated) &#124; Cellphone Ultra</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2813927</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook visit swindle Enraging Advertisers (Updated) &#124; Cellphone Ultra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] aren&#8217;t the standard go cheat complaints that advertisers have leveled against search engines for years. In those cases, bots are racking up [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Facebook Click Fraud Enraging Advertisers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2813924</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Click Fraud Enraging Advertisers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] aren&#8217;t the standard click fraud complaints that advertisers have leveled against search engines for years. In those cases, bots are racking up [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Facebook Click Fraud Enraging Advertisers (Updated)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2813910</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Click Fraud Enraging Advertisers (Updated)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] aren&#8217;t the standard click fraud complaints that advertisers have leveled against search engines for years. In those cases, bots are racking up [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Report: Click Fraud At Record High</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2608664</link>
		<dc:creator>Report: Click Fraud At Record High</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for it in 2006, dashing our hopes that it might hold steady in 2008. The company recorded a rate of 16.3% in Q1 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: uri</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2285555</link>
		<dc:creator>uri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PPC is dead!
Long live PPK - (Pay Per Keyword)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PPC is dead!<br />
Long live PPK &#8211; (Pay Per Keyword)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Madel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2233460</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Madel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Dsquared - this data is useless.  No one has ever fully explained exactly how this &quot;click-fraud&quot; is detected or defined.

Sure, advertisers on any of the content networks are clearly in danger from click-fraud.  There the incentive is clear: publishers get paid when ads are clicked.

Even the search network is a dangerous place to advertise because your ad can end up on parked domains - another place a publisher has incentive to click the ad.

With ads on the search engines, though, there is very little incentive for click fraud.  Will a competitor try to run out your budget - maybe, but this I have to believe is rare.

wellletzc - Were your ads on a content network or just on the search engines?  If on the search engines, how did you identify it as click fraud?

The lesson: stay away from content and search networks - they provide poor traffic and open you up to click fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dsquared &#8211; this data is useless.  No one has ever fully explained exactly how this &#8220;click-fraud&#8221; is detected or defined.</p>
<p>Sure, advertisers on any of the content networks are clearly in danger from click-fraud.  There the incentive is clear: publishers get paid when ads are clicked.</p>
<p>Even the search network is a dangerous place to advertise because your ad can end up on parked domains &#8211; another place a publisher has incentive to click the ad.</p>
<p>With ads on the search engines, though, there is very little incentive for click fraud.  Will a competitor try to run out your budget &#8211; maybe, but this I have to believe is rare.</p>
<p>wellletzc &#8211; Were your ads on a content network or just on the search engines?  If on the search engines, how did you identify it as click fraud?</p>
<p>The lesson: stay away from content and search networks &#8211; they provide poor traffic and open you up to click fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Madel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2233459</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Madel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Dsquared - this data is useless.  No one has ever fully explained exactly how this &quot;click-fraud&quot; is detected or defined.

Sure, advertisers on any of the content networks are clearly in danger from click-fraud.  There the incentive is clear: publishers get paid when ads are clicked.

Even the search network is a dangerous place to advertise because your ad can end up on parked domains - another place a publisher has incentive to click the ad.

With ads on the search engines, though, there is very little incentive for click fraud.  Will a competitor try to run out your budget - maybe, but this I have to believe is rare.

wellletzc - Were your ads on a content network or just on the search engines?  If on the search engines, how did you identify it as click fraud?

The lesson: stay away from content and search networks - they provide poor traffic and open you up to click fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dsquared &#8211; this data is useless.  No one has ever fully explained exactly how this &#8220;click-fraud&#8221; is detected or defined.</p>
<p>Sure, advertisers on any of the content networks are clearly in danger from click-fraud.  There the incentive is clear: publishers get paid when ads are clicked.</p>
<p>Even the search network is a dangerous place to advertise because your ad can end up on parked domains &#8211; another place a publisher has incentive to click the ad.</p>
<p>With ads on the search engines, though, there is very little incentive for click fraud.  Will a competitor try to run out your budget &#8211; maybe, but this I have to believe is rare.</p>
<p>wellletzc &#8211; Were your ads on a content network or just on the search engines?  If on the search engines, how did you identify it as click fraud?</p>
<p>The lesson: stay away from content and search networks &#8211; they provide poor traffic and open you up to click fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2228737</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sophie (18) - Yes, I would call that click fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophie (18) &#8211; Yes, I would call that click fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: sophie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2227895</link>
		<dc:creator>sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question ! In order to validate my entry for a contest, I had to click on an ad. Is it a click fraud or not ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question ! In order to validate my entry for a contest, I had to click on an ad. Is it a click fraud or not ?</p>
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		<title>By: TaT: Microhoo, Yahoo Open Strategy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2227886</link>
		<dc:creator>TaT: Microhoo, Yahoo Open Strategy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Klickbetrugsrate ist zur Abwechslung mal (leicht) gesunken: Maybe The Fight Against Click Fraud Isn’t Hopeless After All [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Klickbetrugsrate ist zur Abwechslung mal (leicht) gesunken: Maybe The Fight Against Click Fraud Isn’t Hopeless After All [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Son Nguyen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2226128</link>
		<dc:creator>Son Nguyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google will not provide detailed information for each click (IP, time, referring page, etc.). That&#039;s how useless click quality adjustments mean for advertisers! We need to put pressure on these ad networks to demand a more transparent reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google will not provide detailed information for each click (IP, time, referring page, etc.). That&#8217;s how useless click quality adjustments mean for advertisers! We need to put pressure on these ad networks to demand a more transparent reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: wellletzc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2225697</link>
		<dc:creator>wellletzc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... one more thing. Looking in detail at our server logs showed some interesting things. The keyword fraud was very clever. It was only on the highest paying keywords, it all came from the U.S., no overseas. It had browser platforms distributed in about the same share as the overall market, it came from 21 different cities and towns, and 76 IP addresses.

The apparently random and normal distribution of the traffic is what caught our eye. Though we advertise nationally, our products only appeals to certain limited geographical profiles, and the browser platforms are very heavily Apple/Mac and our organic traffic reflected this. The PPC traffic did not. 

Also, ClickForensics did NOT identify this traffic as click fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; one more thing. Looking in detail at our server logs showed some interesting things. The keyword fraud was very clever. It was only on the highest paying keywords, it all came from the U.S., no overseas. It had browser platforms distributed in about the same share as the overall market, it came from 21 different cities and towns, and 76 IP addresses.</p>
<p>The apparently random and normal distribution of the traffic is what caught our eye. Though we advertise nationally, our products only appeals to certain limited geographical profiles, and the browser platforms are very heavily Apple/Mac and our organic traffic reflected this. The PPC traffic did not. </p>
<p>Also, ClickForensics did NOT identify this traffic as click fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: wellletzc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2225641</link>
		<dc:creator>wellletzc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The overall click percentage figure is misleading. Virtually no fraud occours with the low cost keywords, yet we have seen 90% click fraud rates on keywords that cost $4.00 and up per click. The click fraud rates based on dollars, rather than clicks, would be the most valuable one to see. I think you would be shocked.

We finally stopped using PPC advertising in February, saved several thousand per month, our visitor numbers dropped a lot. Yet, our online sales increased at about the same rate as when we were using PPC advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The overall click percentage figure is misleading. Virtually no fraud occours with the low cost keywords, yet we have seen 90% click fraud rates on keywords that cost $4.00 and up per click. The click fraud rates based on dollars, rather than clicks, would be the most valuable one to see. I think you would be shocked.</p>
<p>We finally stopped using PPC advertising in February, saved several thousand per month, our visitor numbers dropped a lot. Yet, our online sales increased at about the same rate as when we were using PPC advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: Web Browsers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2225105</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Browsers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreeed with Dsquared&#039;s first lines.</description>
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		<title>By: Dsquared</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2224830</link>
		<dc:creator>Dsquared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These reports are worthless. 

If a third party had not problem singling out every fraud click, it would be even easier for Google and Yahoo to do so.

The point is, the report makers don&#039;t know what is a fraudulent click and what is not, period.

What is more important, however, is that Google algorithms already discount the value of clicks that fit certain profiles through their smart pricing software, in cases making the clicks worth zero to publishers.

Thus, Google takes care of clicks with certain profiles, which has the aim of making the profit from fraudulent clicks to as close to zero as possible. 

In addition, Google will stop showing ads with publishers that have certain click profiles.

That is a background that should be understood when reading these reports. 

Reporting that there are indications of x % of click fraud but leaving the background out is lazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These reports are worthless. </p>
<p>If a third party had not problem singling out every fraud click, it would be even easier for Google and Yahoo to do so.</p>
<p>The point is, the report makers don&#8217;t know what is a fraudulent click and what is not, period.</p>
<p>What is more important, however, is that Google algorithms already discount the value of clicks that fit certain profiles through their smart pricing software, in cases making the clicks worth zero to publishers.</p>
<p>Thus, Google takes care of clicks with certain profiles, which has the aim of making the profit from fraudulent clicks to as close to zero as possible. </p>
<p>In addition, Google will stop showing ads with publishers that have certain click profiles.</p>
<p>That is a background that should be understood when reading these reports. </p>
<p>Reporting that there are indications of x % of click fraud but leaving the background out is lazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2224583</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CPA is the way to go in the future... it just isn&#039;t profitable yet for the vast majority of sites out there.

Jon
http://woodmarvels.com - Create Unique Memories</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CPA is the way to go in the future&#8230; it just isn&#8217;t profitable yet for the vast majority of sites out there.</p>
<p>Jon<br />
<a href="http://woodmarvels.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://woodmarvels.com'>http://woodmarvels.com</a> &#8211; Create Unique Memories</p>
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		<title>By: jenkins</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2224263</link>
		<dc:creator>jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, you guys have some serious pageload issues today. Makes the site hard to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, you guys have some serious pageload issues today. Makes the site hard to use.</p>
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		<title>By: JosefVirek</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2224253</link>
		<dc:creator>JosefVirek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CPC is dead, long live CPA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CPC is dead, long live CPA!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Choi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2224200</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Choi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow..  here is a company that has to rely on elementary visual tricks to survive..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow..  here is a company that has to rely on elementary visual tricks to survive..</p>
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		<title>By: LiveCrunch</title>
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		<dc:creator>LiveCrunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest I would also blame social networks for that like Facebook and MySpace.

Here is the situation:

I post article online, that same article is RSS feeded by FaceBook or MySpace. Friend&#039;s of mine click on that article and let say click on google adsense advertising. 

NEXT time I go to my friends house using his internet I login to Adsense or Gmail or any google app. Google would flag me as &quot;bad boy&quot; 

It happens! yet did not happen to me yet/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest I would also blame social networks for that like Facebook and MySpace.</p>
<p>Here is the situation:</p>
<p>I post article online, that same article is RSS feeded by FaceBook or MySpace. Friend&#8217;s of mine click on that article and let say click on google adsense advertising. </p>
<p>NEXT time I go to my friends house using his internet I login to Adsense or Gmail or any google app. Google would flag me as &#8220;bad boy&#8221; </p>
<p>It happens! yet did not happen to me yet/</p>
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		<title>By: Web Browsers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2224180</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Browsers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I don&#039;t get it (sorry, haven&#039;t read post). Is this click fraud which wasn&#039;t &quot;catched&quot; or total click fraud? Like cheaters were lazy this quarter so there were less fraud...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I don&#8217;t get it (sorry, haven&#8217;t read post). Is this click fraud which wasn&#8217;t &#8220;catched&#8221; or total click fraud? Like cheaters were lazy this quarter so there were less fraud&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Web Browsers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2224176</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Browsers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bannerreviews.com,

No. Only very basic cheating systems can be caught like that :-) I&#039;ve been in PPC for about 5 years (not promoting and not cheating :-)). Trust me, there are so many ways to cheat.</description>
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<p>No. Only very basic cheating systems can be caught like that <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ve been in PPC for about 5 years (not promoting and not cheating <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ). Trust me, there are so many ways to cheat.</p>
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		<title>By: PressReleasePoint</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2224164</link>
		<dc:creator>PressReleasePoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point. Why does this graph have non linear y axis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. Why does this graph have non linear y axis.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/25/maybe-the-fight-against-click-fraud-isnt-hopeless-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2224128</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why in the world would I trust a company that makes graphs like that? The y-axis scales are wildly nonlinear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why in the world would I trust a company that makes graphs like that? The y-axis scales are wildly nonlinear.</p>
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