Comments on: Zoho Launches In China With Baihui

By: blue

blue — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:19:52 +0000

很多好的东西一进入国内就容易不可避免地走样和庸俗化，Google中国开发的一些东西实在让人作呕，自己的优势未发挥，反而一再拼那些根本拼不过百度的地方，本地化成这样，唉！！
早点像凤凰卫视那样维持自己特色，不轻易为了市场牺牲自己品牌，委屈求全，最后阉割自己到不成样子，也不会像今天这般尴尬。

By: 百会: ZOHO在线编辑应用程序的中文化策略 | 帕兰映像

百会: ZOHO在线编辑应用程序的中文化策略 | 帕兰映像 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:37:06 +0000

[...] 但刚才又从TC看到, 百会的在线应用是由ZOHO所提供, 虽然ZOHO的界面也有中文版. 但是在中国, 大家最熟悉的在线应用恐怕还是Google Docs, ZOHO的此次中文化策略可能也是想抢夺这些用户. [...]

By: Zoho暗渡百会，引入中文在线编辑应用平台 | SilenceWolf

Zoho暗渡百会，引入中文在线编辑应用平台 | SilenceWolf — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:16:51 +0000

[...] applications are being delivered via a partnership with Baihui, which hosts the Zoho sites. Read more. addthis_url = [...]

By: james

james — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:03:53 +0000

Surely that market would be less willing to use Zoho, as they are more inclined to pirate software. Or am I missing something?

By: elvirs

elvirs — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:56:49 +0000

i did not know so many biased people read techcrunch.
why do you bullshit anything you hear about china?
-zoho is very smart company and is way different than zillion of web2.0 apps that have no revenue potential.
-zoho has been strongly growing, releasing valuable products every few months. zoho show, zoho write are real products that have thousands of code lines behind them, zoho is not delicious.
-it was smart of zoho to enter chinese market with baihui, because now they will have localized products blended with local well known internet brand and thats very different from what Google was trying to do.
-todays piracy will not stay forever in china and i bet in few years chinese government will take an action against piracy to protect its local software companies, which will become local microsoft by then, at this rate of development in the economy.

By: Joe Thong

Joe Thong — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:51:43 +0000

Sorry. my bad, I just realized its the CRM app that’s only charging 14usd per month. Anyways, the piracy issue will still be giving Zoho/Baihui a harder time in China than in elsewhere where piracy issue is not such rampant.

By: Joe Thong

Joe Thong — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:45:55 +0000

“The Office piracy rate in China is 90+% according to Microsoft, and that market will be even more willing to use online versions of Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc.”

This really baffles me… maybe you could shed some light on how you arrive on this conclusion.

Why would I want to pay 14USD per month for a subpar editing experience (compared to Office) when I can get Office for “Free” which doesn’t even need me to subscribe to an ISP?

By: Florian

Florian — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:31:15 +0000

“The Office piracy rate in China is 90+% according to Microsoft, and that market will be even more willing to use online versions of Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc.”

IMO, the fact that piracy is so high in China means that the cost of the product doesn’t matter. So free (or very cheap) services like Zoho lose one of their main advantages versus Microsoft.

By: Zach Weisman

Zach Weisman — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:22:37 +0000

Michael,

I’ve wondered this for a long time….

What would you say the current value of ZOHO is? Are all of their financials private?

Zach

By: Zoli Erdos

Zoli Erdos — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:02:51 +0000

@Chris, see @Sridhar at #5 above. The US-based site was slow when accessed from China. Baihui set up their own data center to host Zoho Apps *inside* China, so the speed issue is gone.

By: Et

Et — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:02:04 +0000

“their site is very slow inside of China due to the firewall”

The great firewall of China is starting to sound as much a tool for protectionism then censorship. If the Chinese market is protected by cultural differences, it’s one thing, but if the Chinese government is deliberately slowing down outside applications to ensure it’s own market, that’s anti-competitive. What does the ICC think of it?

By: 符碼印象

符碼印象 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:42:30 +0000

中國似乎一直都有防火牆的限制這倒是給外國廠商一個進入門檻~

By: THE1000LINKS

THE1000LINKS — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:40:36 +0000

Wondering if Google docs has the same speed issue in China??

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:35:50 +0000

“but their site is very slow inside of China due to the firewall.”

Can any one confirm the non-madeupness of this comment?

By: Peter Urban

Peter Urban — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:35:11 +0000

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By: Sridhar Vembu

Sridhar Vembu — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:31:18 +0000

Actually, in practical terms, it is quite painful to use any serious application hosted outside China, from within China. So hosting it in China is vital in order for us to gain serious traction. In that sense, our Chinese language support in Zoho doesn’t really compete with our distribution partner in China. After all, there are over 50 million Chinese language speakers living outside of China, which is what our own Chinese language pack really targets.

We are quite excited about the potential of this partnership. Baihui brings serious distribution muscle in China.

Sridhar Vembu
CEO
Zoho

By: Siddharth

Siddharth — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:28:29 +0000

I don’t think Zoho will be that big in China, but its still news

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By: Zoho Launches in China @ Baihui.com| Zoli’s Blog

Zoho Launches in China @ Baihui.com| Zoli’s Blog — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:25:37 +0000

[...] (* Please note, Baihui’s investment is into their own data center, running the Zoho Apps, not Zoho’s parent company, Adventnet, as incorrectly reported on TechCrunch.) [...]

By: Peter Urban

Peter Urban — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:23:58 +0000

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By: Zoho Blogs

Zoho Blogs — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:20:49 +0000

Baihui Distributes Zoho Apps in China…

We are happy to announce a new distribution partner in China – Baihui, a subsidiary of PC Stars – the largest Chinese online distributor with more than 2300 Resellers and over 1000 System Integrators.
With this partnership, Baihui hosts Zoho Applicatio…

By: Siddharth

Siddharth — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:10:36 +0000

Lest see their results in coming months. It’s not easy to get popular in China. Google had already suffered to make dominancy there because China have its own language popular web search engine there. Lest see what future have.

By: Daniel Brusilovsky

Daniel Brusilovsky — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:07:44 +0000

I don’t think Zoho will be that big in China, but its still news

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