Comments on: Does The Google-Yahoo Advertising Test Amount To Collusion?

By: TechCrunch en français » Yahoo se jette dans les bras de Google

TechCrunch en français » Yahoo se jette dans les bras de Google — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:03:49 +0000

[...] en tout cas des inquiétudes du cote de Washington et du département de la justice ou une enquête avait déjà été ouverte suite aux premiers essais effectués entre ces deux géants il y a peu; Nul doute que ce [...]

By: Yahoo opens Google AdSense account » mathewingram.com/work |

Yahoo opens Google AdSense account » mathewingram.com/work | — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:17:33 +0000

[...] prices for advertisers,” and so on — in a commentary that is so obviously designed to placate the U.S. government that it might as well start out with the words “Dear Anti-Trust Investigators” — [...]

By: Yahoo Runs Into Google’s Arms

Yahoo Runs Into Google’s Arms — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:57:47 +0000

[...] will no doubt intensify the scrutiny from Washington, where the Justice Department has already launched an investigation into antitrust issues arising from a Yahoo and Google merely testing the waters for today’s [...]

By: Yahoo Runs Into Google’s Arms

Yahoo Runs Into Google’s Arms — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:57:47 +0000

By: Google/Yahoo Search Partnership Announcement At 1:30 This Afternoon

Google/Yahoo Search Partnership Announcement At 1:30 This Afternoon — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:59:21 +0000

[...] two companies announced they’d test a search partnership in April. The controversial deal got the attention of Congress and others, but preliminary tests of the partnership were [...]

By: Google Is A Malware Site (Says Yahoo)

Google Is A Malware Site (Says Yahoo) — Mon, 12 May 2008 06:50:56 +0000

[...] results that point to google don’t have this “feature,” and given the recent love fest between the two companies, the joke angle is probably out. Keep an eye out on this query though. I [...]

By: Danny

Danny — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:25:30 +0000

You know, they deserve it, if for no other reason than they went whining to the gov’mint over MS’s desktop search. An absolutely shameless and kind of pathetic bit of politicking that I imagine a few of the google defenders here thought was great just because the were sticking it to MS! So stupid. Not that this is a response to it but it was utterly boneheaded of google to dredge up antitrust/monoply issues of any kind since they are so obviously headed in that direction. They will continue to dominate search like MS dominated the desktop and that may ultimately be more valuable than preloading windows on everything in sight ever was. Why they ever partook in such petty whining is beyond comprehension but they seem to have done it just because they could. Seems like that’s what the feds are doing here.

@11

Did you care when MS breath-suckingly controlled the desktop market?

@15

So the government should be investigating oil companies instead?

By: Jon

Jon — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:03:01 +0000

I am getting pretty sick of the American gov’t…. the country is bleeding money, the housing market is a mess and the oil companies are the only people in the country turning a profit while we all pay through the nose for gas just to get to work every day…

but yea - you go ahead and investigate this… because why would any company want to partner with another company who makes a good product and can be profitable for both…. I am moving out of the us…..

By: Hyloka

Hyloka — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:19:07 +0000

The problem with winning the market is that all the innocent conversations between companies in the industry start to look not so innocent. If you have Frank call up Steve, Scott, Jerry, Larry and others and mention that you’re not too happy with something a competitor you don’t like is doing in the market and through all those back channel conversations indicate that you think it would be nice if everyone just did little things to make life difficult for that competitor and by the way if that happened you’d very much appreciate it, then it would start to look like collusion and abuse of market power.

By: TechCrunch40 Sponsor - Agoracom

TechCrunch40 Sponsor - Agoracom — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:32:08 +0000

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By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » GoogleとYahooが共同で行った広告試験運用は“共謀罪”に当たるのか？

TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » GoogleとYahooが共同で行った広告試験運用は“共謀罪”に当たるのか？ — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:07:04 +0000

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By: The Googlopoly Has Come

The Googlopoly Has Come — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:18:48 +0000

“Google is being warned here that it is dangerously close to monopoly status in search and that the government will treat it accordingly. Different rules apply to monopolies. Just ask Microsoft”

FINALLY!!!

By: Morgan

Morgan — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:04:06 +0000

Even if there were a monopoly, as in a hostile single entity controlling an entire market, I don’t think I’d care. This is so overblown and such a waste of time, money, and source of FUD in technology slowing down innovation.

@1 you’re right, it’s ridiculous.

@5 exactly, it just goes to show that there are always alternatives. Especially on the Internet– it’s not like someone can buy up all the property to keep someone out.

I don’t care if Google controls 99% of online advertising. They can’t force advertisers to buy non-profitable advertising. There are always alternative.

Capitalism– it’s voluntary.

By: Peter Urban

Peter Urban — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:56:02 +0000

Different rules apply to a monopoly? ask Microsoft agan ;-)

By: jro

jro — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:32:39 +0000

The tech industry has Microsoft (circa 1999) to thank for this scrutiny. The jig is up — tech companies will now be on permanent watch by the feds.

Google will probably find any and all of their activities closely watched by the feds going forward. Thanks, Microsoft!

By: andrew

andrew — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:31:13 +0000

the investigation is largely without merit. sure they will control 80% of search advertising, but there is still other types of advertising on the internet and other types of advertising in general. It’s not exactly the same as Rockefeller owning every single refiner and having a global monopoly on a basic commodity. Unlike airline travel, oil, or operating systems people aren’t completely dependent on search based advertising for business survival. google can’t gouge their customers because if it doesn’t justify itself economically they will quit advertising.

By: Afraid of the Dark

Afraid of the Dark — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:15:13 +0000

@6 … “continue to surprise”? What exactly have they done that has been a “surprise” to the world? Have good earnings? If that’s some sort of great surprise then it’s not looking good.

As for phone calls. The airlines were busted back a decade+ ago when the anti-trust department caught AMR’s CEO calling a competitor and saying that the price wars they were having were ridiculous.

By: YDrive

YDrive — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:50:31 +0000

Y! will continue to surprise the world… stay tuned..

By: Diego

Diego — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:26:55 +0000

Beyond this fight, the best thing Microsoft can do is to build a keyword exchange market and join forces from many different ad networks, just like any currency exchange market.

By: Bob Caswell

Bob Caswell — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:12:27 +0000

“it would likely only be for a portion of Yahoo’s search advertising”

I wonder if this kind of deal, if it were finalized, would be based on “permission first” or “forgiveness later?” And where’s the line for what “portion” is too much? Interesting stuff.

By: jason l baptiste

jason l baptiste — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:11:07 +0000

hey erick, thanks for updating with source on justice department from reuters. :-). Was looking for that.

By: Scott Miller

Scott Miller — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:10:18 +0000

This is exactly why a deal between Google and Yahoo will never be done, and is not a serious threat to Microsoft. I think the real reason for doing this test was to help Yahoo quantify the value of their traffic. If it is good (which appears to be the case,) it could result in Yahoo getting more money out of Microsoft, which is in turn good for Google.

By: John B

John B — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:01:11 +0000

I understand why the laws are in place, but it seems a but un-American to say “If you’re extremely successful, here’s a list of people that you’re not allowed to phone.”