It is time that the natural born citizens of the US stand up and be heard!!

Oh and I smoke POT everyday since I was 14 (40ish now) Love Heavy Metal, I am non-degreed, a veteran. I work as a Wireless Telecom Engineer…

Also, Did everyone forget about Texas Instruments? People act like Silicone Valley was the only place inventions were made…

Well, may I pick your bones for a sec. How old are you? Did you go to school, and come out post-bubble. I did, and watched all jobs we washed off-shores. You ever call up customer service of late? You ignorant pieces of S%$Ts kept the younger gen off your sites, and made your money. Let me say, coming from AT&T, and being reposed by “IBM India” left me wondering whom the sancto-s$%t mo-fos fed me to the dogs…probably your kind. How is it that in my current MBA course,’3/4 are Indian’, but that’s b/c the system likes money. What about Americans, A-Hole.

America, or shoud I say Americans, are dumb and can’t be educated enough to get the skills that foreign workers possess and American firms need.

Foreign workers need America because even though they are superior in intellect, they can’t seem to have an economy in their superior intellect home countries where they can get better jobs than those in America.

How does hiring more foreign workers result in the hiring of more Americans? Where are these jobs created? At the Wal-Mart or MacDonalds next to the High Tech firm? Or maybe more janitors to clean the bigger offices used to employ all the foreigners? But wait, MacDonald’s and the cleaning services can’t get Americans either, so they hire illegal aliens.

Of course European H-1B’s don’t want to go home after being paid in US Dollars since that money is almost worthless when exchanged for the Euro.

The argument that American companies need foreigner workers to compete globally is not really a good argument, because what is an American company? A company located in America owned by a foreinger with foreign workers? I guess, but many times the only “jobs” lost are those that foreign workers hold anyway. So its not like US Citizens are losing those jobs.

The big question will be what will the world do when even Indians and Chinese become too expensive to hire?

The best part is that once here, the visa-holders do work their way into the system…and then hire their countrymen and fellow grads from IIT – just desserts!

Let me tell you who corporations are not as keen to hire into IT anymore: white women, African Americans, and sometimes…even white males. Talk about shooting oneself in the foot!

And here’s an interesting story on some H1-B hanky panky:
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DoJ settles H-1B job ad case for $45,000

May 02, 2008 (Computerworld) A Pittsburgh-based computer consulting company that advertised for H-1B visa holders only is paying $45,000 in civil penalties to settle allegations that it discriminated against U.S. citizens, the U.S. Department of Justice said Thursday.

The company, iGate Mastech Inc., placed 30 job announcements between May and June of 2006 “for computer programmers that expressed favored H-1B visa holders to the exclusion of U.S. citizens, lawful permanent residents, and other legal U.S. workers,” the DoJ said in a statement.

A complaint against iGate Mastech was filed by the Programmers Guild in 2006. It was one of dozens of complaints lodged by the Summit, NJ. against various companies.

John Miano, who founded the guild, said the DoJ’s announcement was “is probably the most visible result” of its campaign against companies that discriminate against U.S. workers “in favor of cheap H-1B workers,” he said in a statement.

One job advertisement for a Java developer on the job board Dice by iGate Mastech said “Only H-1s Apply, and should be willing to transfer H – 1 B.”

“The problem of companies only looking for H-1B workers is a serious one,” said Miano. “We are only scratching the surface right now with the companies that are brazen enough to put out ads like these.”

Full article:
http://www.comp...ticleId=9081898

Today there just are not news reporters who are representing the people.
The article above is just for entertainment; there is not a mention of what really is going on here.
Corporatism might be the problem. The corporations are going to Washington and telling the story (big lie) about the shortages of engineers.
Our country is being taken apart piece by piece by Corporate employees (CEO’s on down).
They are looking for the next quarter, and if it means bringing is slave wage folks (H1B) to displace American’s, or moving operations to other slave countries, so be it.

I’m not looking to start a debate, since this is hardly the best environment for it, so this is my last post.

However, I have to mention 1 thing regarding your statement above: “I know of fresh Berkeley and Stanford physics PhDs that can’t find jobs”.

I _am_ in a similar department at Stanford (not physics though). During the last 5 years, there were _absolutely no_ cases of PhD’s who did not have at least 2 job offers after graduation (either in academia or in industry), even the ones with the lightest thesis and research during grad school.

Yes, that’s true, the typical industry salaries for my department are in the range of 100K/year and I know people who thought that they were far too pretious to put up 8 hrs/day for less than 200K. Maybe that’s the case of your physics phd friends …