Comments on: German Startup Community Makes Us Proud Once Again: Freundefeed

By: Web 2.0 klonen - PEERfekt

Web 2.0 klonen - PEERfekt — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:36:17 +0000

[...] einem aktuellen Artikel weißt Techcrunch auf eine weitere deutsche Web 2.0 Kopie hin -> Freundefeed und wer hat’s erfunden ?? friendfeed Schon im Mai 2007 hat sich Techcrunch [...]

By: FreundeNews setzt auf das Trendthema Lifestreaming :: deutsche-startups.de

FreundeNews setzt auf das Trendthema Lifestreaming :: deutsche-startups.de — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:56:20 +0000

[...] “ein amerikanisches Konzept ins Lande bringen”. Wenigstens hat das FreundeNews auf den anfänglichen Namen FreundeFeed und das extrem ähnliche Logo [...]

By: Webmaster Blog | FreundeNews - deutschsprachiger Lifestreaming Dienst gestartet

Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:01:21 +0000

[...] Mit seiner Ankündigung, unter dem Namen FreundeFeed einen deutschen FriendFeed Clone zu veröffentlichen, hatte Vincent Nicolai im April für einige Furore gesorgt - so sehr, dass selbst TechCrunch sich genötigt sah, über das eigenwillige Unterfangen zu berichteten. [...]

By: Daylife.com - Meine neue Nachrichtenseite « relevant media. now.

Daylife.com - Meine neue Nachrichtenseite « relevant media. now. — Thu, 15 May 2008 17:45:33 +0000

[...] neuen US-Idee zu widerstehen. Darüber macht sich bereits der Tech-Blog techcrunch.com regelmäßig lustig. Und eben der Gründer dieses Blogs Michael Arrington ist Angel-Investor bei daylife.com; dem [...]

By: Jodi Church-Wagner

Jodi Church-Wagner — Thu, 01 May 2008 22:11:47 +0000

@Marcus, I was being fair. I was only stating what the problem is. We have this problem as well, which I even said. I was referring to the kind of sites people would especially want a feed from, when you compare to similar services in English (aka the copycat versions). I will leave it at that because I am not going to name them. I am not dissing any site, not even freundefeed. If you read my comments, and also see that Michael named me in giving the tip about freundefeed, then you should realize, I only did something good for them. I’m not a mean, jealous, or hateful person, so I don’t roll with such tactics.

By: Marcus

Marcus — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:37:23 +0000

@Jodi

Be fair!

There are a lot of German sites who do have RSS feed for all pages. Your comment is to “biased” as a member of the international Mister Wong Team.

If I would be unfair, I could say, Mister Wong is a German copy cat of http://www.oneview.de but I would never do that ;o)

check Wikipedia for details:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneview

http://newmedia.wikia.com/wiki/Social_Bookmarking

“History

The concept of shared online bookmarking dates back to April 1996 with the launch of itList.com. Within the next three years online bookmark services became competitive, with venture-backed companies like Backflip, Blink, Clip2, Hotlinks, Quiver, and others entering the market. Lacking viable models for making money, most of this early generation of social bookmarking companies failed as the dot-com bubble burst. The contemporary concepts of social bookmarking and tagging took root with the launch of the web site oneview[1]in 1999 and del.icio.us, in 2003. “

By: Jodi Church-Wagner

Jodi Church-Wagner — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:07:30 +0000

@Dan Johnston, Trust me, this is not from Mister Wong. Of course any German site like this would or should include Mister Wong. But Mister Wong just acquired http://lifestream.fm/

By: Jodi Church-Wagner

Jodi Church-Wagner — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:32:49 +0000

I left you a picture and a little not on the subject of German copycats here: http://wagner.journalspace.com/?entryid=944

In regards to Freundefeed, if you check the top German sites for RSS feeds and APIs, beyond Mister Wong, who does have RSS feed for all pages, but no API, other German sites are far from being able to offer their service in this feed, so I don’t see how freundefeed is going to be of any use to the Germans.

Thanks for the link

By: andUNITE Corporate Blog » Blog Archive » andUNITE at the Web Monday in Stuttgart

Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:01:50 +0000

[...] founders of andUNITE and freundefeed. The naughty guys from freundefeed caused quite some - well - uproar in the last few weeks - and andUNITE is still runningandrunningandrunning… These icons [...]

By: Thomas

Thomas — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:46:54 +0000

Also copies are http://www,spirofrog.de is a copy of http://www.monster.com

And http://www.whatsyourplace.de is a copy of http://www.plazes.com

But who cares? ideas are not “secure” ..and the Net is fast !

Best Thomas

By: Friendfeed - Tobbis Blog

Friendfeed - Tobbis Blog — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:04:16 +0000

[...] Ein deutsches Copycat gibt es auch bereits mal wieder. Nennt sich freundefeed, wie einfallsreich. Ist im Ausland übrigens sauer aufgestoßen. [...]

By: Atul Abraham

Atul Abraham — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:36:59 +0000

freindfeed should have bought up domain names that could one day be competition as part of its launch strategy, since they couldnt think of that, serves them right,

By: Vera

Vera — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:36:35 +0000

Russian social networking site http://vkontakte.ru (In Contact) is a direct rip of Facebook, except maybe a few months behind.

By: FreundeFeed: It’s for real : The Last Podcast

FreundeFeed: It’s for real : The Last Podcast — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:44:37 +0000

[...] was a minor ruckus about what looked like it was going to be a German FriendFeed clone called FreundeFeed (=friendfeed [...]

By: Ole Wiemeler

Ole Wiemeler — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:36:47 +0000

@Michael the idea of a SocialStream is not a innovation of friendfeed.com. In that way Friendfeed is also a copycat It`s nice to see how you make PR for Freundefeed. But i agree, i don`t like the stupit logo and name copy!

By: Joachim Graf

Joachim Graf — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:05:49 +0000

I know the guys from Freundefeed - they are working at the moment to make a copy tiger out of the copy cat (growing bigger than the original) - and they want to change the logo as well. Hey - its all about speed going online ….

By: An Englishman snob | Nicki Brøchner

An Englishman snob | Nicki Brøchner — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:27:54 +0000

[...] completely different. Allow me for just one post to talk of topic. Here last night I saw an post at TechCrunch by Michael Arrington, about how German entrepreneurs once more had use there copy/past skills to create a clone of the [...]

By: biernot

biernot — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:41:58 +0000

@Tobias
You’re wrong. Germans are not like 2-3 years behind. It’s more like some kind of culture issue. I bet that twitter will never become popular in Germany.

Let’s take the example iPhone. What a hype in the US. But the Germans take it cool and only a few people are really interested in to get one.

I don’t like the iPhone either. Not worth its money.

By: Webmaster Blog | FreundeFeed: Hat das Sinn?

Webmaster Blog | FreundeFeed: Hat das Sinn? — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:49:40 +0000

[...] TechCrunch am Freitag �ber FreundeFeed berichtete, ging ich fest davon aus, dass es sich bei dem Projekt um einen Scherz handeln muss. Ausser einem [...]

By: le blog à Ollie

le blog à Ollie — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:08:19 +0000

[...] FreundFeed, le clone allemand de FriendFeed. Via TechCrunch. [...]

By: The Drill Down 037 - Interview With Kellvin Chavez of LatinoReview.com | The Drill Down

Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:57:49 +0000

[...] is back! ‘OpenMac’ Promises $399 Headless Mac… But Not From Apple German Startup Community Makes Us Proud Once Again: Freundefeed Senator: Let’s Spend $1B to monitor P2P for illegal file Twitter Saves Berkeley Student [...]

By: Nicole Simon

Nicole Simon — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:56:56 +0000

As usual - it makes sense to try out a copy cat as a business. And be it just for the reason that the German market is big enough to sustain nice revenue if you play it right. Also, due to the language barrier it is not as if most of the ‘inventions’ of web20 ever arrived in the public conscious.

Something like Flickr still is considered exotic.

As usual also, local does not necessary mean translation. And in the specific case of Friendfeed: As long as they fail to manage the language separation of content I might just go on and make (as usual) 2 accounts just to keep the languages straight. Which is dividing the scenes (english / no english) further.

Which opens up the gates for more ‘copycats’. And I have to believe there is a grumpiness against Germany here which I think it is uncalled for. There are other startups copying successful startups, but you call them competition, unless they come from Germany. Why is that?

Also you seem to ignore if they take it further and just stay with a narrow view “they are just copycats” - why is that as well?

btw: germans spend 18.5 billion euros (that is 29 billion dollars) last year in online shopping. If startups neglect such a market, they cannot really complain about others taking the chance.

[having the same kind of name and logo of course is stupid, you need to play it correctly. Any VC investing money in this could rather throw it out the window as Falk said - the critical mass will not come].

By: Traurig, aber wahr… - web2null-Stammtisch

Traurig, aber wahr… - web2null-Stammtisch — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:47:12 +0000

[...] TechCrunch bringt’s mal wieder auf den Punkt. Diesmal nennt sich die Innovation “Freundefeed” – und neben der Idee wurde auch gleich das Logo von friendfeed kopiert. Immerhin hat man sich beim Namen im Rahmen des Möglichen etwas Neues einfallen lassen. Der “Innovator” hinter dem Projekt sucht denn bei XING auch gleich nach “Seed Capital, Venture Capital und Business Angels”, die ihm sein famoses Start-Up finanzieren sollen. Viel gibt’s auf freundefeed.de allerdings noch nicht zu sehen, allerdings wird stolz (?) auf den TechCrunch-Artikel verlinkt… [...]

By: Benjamin Jörissen

Benjamin Jörissen — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:47:56 +0000

Now, this is really bad behavior. The guy also works for a company that invented social tech news … kidding, that made another digg clone.

I thought it would be a good idea to post your remarks there; maybe s/o wants to digg, err, “trnd” this news on tectrnd: http://www.tectrnd.com/index.php

By: Tobias Hieb

Tobias Hieb — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:41:41 +0000

@Biernot

The problem is, that the german internet users are 2-3 years behind the US users. Many german users have no idea about typical web 2.0 features. Example: Twitter. In the US twitter is popular. In Germany twitter and the german copycats are not working. Thats very gloomy… German founders have ideas - but you cannot follow your ideas if the market will not accept your product.