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April 18, 2008

German Startup Community Makes Us Proud Once Again: Freundefeed

Michael Arrington

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You haven’t arrived until your web application has a German clone, it seems. Web innovation in that country too often distills down to “copy/paste innovation.”

And now, Freundfeed, which doesn’t appear to be a joke. Not only is it a ripoff of the FriendFeed name, they also use the same logo. The service hasn’t launched yet, but I’m willing to make an educated guess and say that it will likely rip off the rest of FriendFeed, too.

This guy is either the founder or an investor. Thanks for the tip, Jodi.

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  1. Aaron

    April 18th, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    Well…. that wasn’t nice of them.

  2. Darren

    April 18th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Surely when it launches all they have to do is contact the company hosting it and get it shut down. I presume they have trademarks etc to defend against it.

  3. Chris Thomson

    April 18th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Wow, I think I’ll quit FriendFeed and join freundefeed when it launches….. Kidding!

  4. Simon

    April 18th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    Never an EU-based company was covered so quickly on techncrunh though :p

  5. David

    April 18th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Does a startup like Friendfeed have enough time/money to pursue this?

  6. youn

    April 18th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    It’s a shame that cool app get distorted so quickly. And those guys doing Freundefeed are like one song singer and they will disappear quickly. I hope. But again, shame on you Freundefeed - you don’t make me porud at all!

  7. mathias

    April 18th, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    this is a bad joke … please, let it be a joke … it can’t be real.
    i’m a german guy but this makes me sad :-(

  8. Tim

    April 18th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    The logos aren’t the same at all. The gradient art is like totally different, man.

  9. Shawn Farner

    April 18th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    If you sign up, they email you a link of David Hasselhoff singing “Du”.

  10. Zach Weisman

    April 18th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    Lets see if they can beat Friendfeed in hits like Verwande did Geni.

    http://www.techcrunch.com/2007.....than-geni/

  11. David Oxley

    April 18th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    German innovation at work. My god, they make the French look innovative.

    Will Freundefeed be joining other companies like Deig, FaceBuch, MeinSpace, SieTube in Silicon Senke?

  12. Anatoly

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    Instead of being rickrolled you get Hoffhassled.

  13. Falk Lüke

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    I begin to doubt that you are trying to cover anything including “German*” with something like research. Makes me sad; I always had a good opinion on TechCrunch. It just took you one day to change that completely. Keep up your prejudices, don’t try to do any research. Life is easy that way.

  14. Sebastian

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    I really wish you did not give these type of people attention. I guess you are trying to motivate silicon valley to take internationalization more serious with your posts, so that they dont have to compete with these hack jobs.

    btw he should use a different german word for feed, because when you pronounce the name freundefeed in German, it just sounds plain retarded. Oh well I am surprised no one has launched:
    http://www.meinplatz.de

  15. John Bledsoe

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    Oh I see, if HuddleChat clones Campfire, it’s OK. But if a European company clones FriendFeed it’s a ripoff. Nice double standard.

  16. Daniel

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    Aw man, we’ll seriously have to reconsider using the Hoff as our dude :(

    Daniel
    Soocial.com

  17. youn

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    @Falk

    Falk is there any research needed when one discovers FreundeFeed, which is merely from look a plagia? What kind of research is needed to cover the impression one has on Freundfeed, I’m interested to know: Interviewing the Founder? and asking him why he didn’t come up with the idea and a different logo before?

  18. Jakob

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    We have copycats in Poland too. Compare & contrast:

    http://mirtesen.ru/
    http://bliziutko.pl/

  19. European

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Props to Freundfeed for latching onto this and launching their own version. All you Sillicon Valley people need to grow up; copying your competitors and trying to grab their market share happens in all industries. If only you weren’t so caught up in your “lets change the world and save baby seals by creating a useless social feed aggregator” then moaning when a competitor copies ideas…

  20. Jean Moniatte

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Yes a clone. Yes, shame on them. But bold generalizations like “Web innovation in that country too often distills down to “copy/paste innovation” make me really wonder what your deal is.

    You appear to be somewhat of a smart guy, so my best guess is that a Euro girlfriend dumped you when you were 16 and never got over it. I think that it is now time to let go.

  21. Dave Johnston

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Again you guys are missing the whole thing here.

    This fucking thing has Mister Wong built right into it.

    NOBODY has that here.

    Check the link.

  22. chucky

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    the journalist don alphonso is the german equivalent to Loren Feldman. On his blog (http://www.blogbar.de) he frequently trashes ripp-offs like this. For example, he has strongly criticized the german facebook-clone “studivz.net”. He would be the ideal person for an interview on this matter.

  23. Falk Lüke

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    @youn: the only thing you can see is the use of logos and a sign up button and an email address. That’s not a copycat at all: it’s just nothing, not worth mentioning it. When you would *know* about the german internet users, you’d know that a service like friendfeed is simply not creating any critical mass of users in the german language market. I think it’s either a joke or just burning some cash - nothing worth covering it.

  24. U.

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Ohhh … blame on German copycats.

    Germans are doing now exactly that what the whole world did with German cars for decades.
    Feel honoured! Don’t be offended!

    And a good advice for all US start ups who don’t want to be copied: stay in the deep web ;)

  25. Jeff Crites

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    #s 8 & 9 almost made coffee exit my nose. Wonder if that would have a Neti Pot effect?

  26. nils

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    evil, evil, evil but that is competition :-)

  27. Hakan Celik

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    shame on you, Freundfeed :(((

  28. youn

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    @Falk

    I agree if you consider the users, but just the act of mentioning it does not hurt. That piece of information on techcrunch should be welcomd in the sense that it even raised attention in Vanuatu. And to someone talking about German cars, how did you guys react when the smart was copied in China? Did you clap your hands and say, “Welcome Globalization, Global Village here we are”?

  29. Bisi

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    They are not competing in the same market so it does not really matter .
    They site is in German too .

  30. ZiZi

    April 18th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    What a bunch of untalented jackasses, I hope they shut them down immediately after they launch.

  31. U.

    April 18th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    @youn

    Oh, you really want to enter that discussion?

    1) Isn’t there a difference between copying an idea an copying a product?

    2) How do “you” guys react when someone copies a products one2one?

  32. nat

    April 18th, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    @26 & 29 , i agree with you guy.

    Nat
    http://www.workersinc.com

  33. Bontb

    April 18th, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Ich kann ja nicht glauben!

    I can’t belive germy’s (what i call’em) did it again! I liked germany but didn’t like the copy style of them…yet its not just germany doing this I mean lets not profile people here. usa , africa, asia, europe it’s all sh** copy paste one from another…when it comes to cars usa copy’s germans when it comes to webdesign and software euro copys and so on and on …

    I would say they dont have chances to be as friendfeed but yet its nice to provide same service to germans….see if friendfeed would be a bit smarter and ask translators like my self to translate their website in 5 different languages I bet there wouldn’t be any competition from different countries… so next time “get some more business college degree”

  34. marc

    April 18th, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    Take a look at the german start-up fabidoo, which demonstrates that not all german web companies are copy-cats but might come up with truly innovative ideas by themselves.
    Cheers
    marc

  35. addnr

    April 18th, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    but you obviously like the 20th copy of any mountain view venture much more, than something really innovative you had to understand first.

  36. Trudeau

    April 18th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    Copy paste ‘innovation’ is so web 1.0. Reminds me of Finland’s biggest portal, which is Jippii.fi (yahoo in Finnish).

  37. youn

    April 18th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    @ U
    2) How do “you” guys react when someone copies a products one2one?

    … Well I would react the same way dude! Idea is idea be it the idea of the rich or of the poor and where criticsm is needed one needs to make it!

  38. antje wilsch

    April 18th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    it’s not like most sites are usually in a hurry to offer German versions, so Germans do the efficient thing - they copy into their own language. It’ll be a problem when (if?) the original ever gets around to doing a german version or if the clone does an english version (ie itsourtree vs. geni from verwandt.de).

  39. U.

    April 18th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    @ youn

    I often read that (especially engineering) companies don’t disclose their knowledge anymore as patents to keep their secret source. If an company has this secret source: good for them! Especially GOOGLE is a good example how you can become VERY big with a secret source.
    If you don’t have a secret source you must be quick and inovative … that are the rules coming with predatory capitalism (invented by whom?).

    And please don’t plead for software patents. Because that would be the death of all innovative, young start ups. The European Union will hopefully prohibit this!

  40. alex k

    April 18th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    Since when do you care about copyrights?

  41. youn

    April 18th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    @U

    I agree on software patents, but my discussion was more on innovativeness froma cultural point of view which can be double sided. I am aware that the fact of having Freundfeed is an innovation in the german cultural landscape but still I think, the “aura” as the great “Adorno” puts it must be there, or?

  42. 113.com

    April 18th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    So it’s not China alone about all these issues all day long… :lol:

  43. Philipp

    April 18th, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    i cant believe it… its so fucking embarassing. im german and believe me, we have lots of cool startup. but this is soo ******

  44. random

    April 18th, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    yh, right philipp, like starting a weak social network, inspired by myspace … you’re so last year dude ;)

  45. Steven C

    April 18th, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    Having spent years designing unique products (in Europe) that were ripped off by the entire world not least the Yanks, my perspective is somewhat distorted. Despite patents etc, there is little (no sensible) legal redress. At it’s core memes etc. will be copied, that is how evolution (nature) works. Do I like it? Sure we can all play that game right. I’ve learned to embrace it.

  46. Philipp

    April 18th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    @random: like bloomstreet, joinr and unddu? yea, you are right, its the same bosh. or verwandt.de and the other clones. i really want to see some innovatic startups from germany, not just copycats… its sad, that we have nothing to offer except copycats.

  47. Dave Johnston

    April 18th, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    Mister Wong.

    Social bookmarking.

  48. Karl Kraut

    April 18th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    http://berlin.unlike.com is an evolution of which site exactly?

  49. Karl Kraut

    April 18th, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    oops http://berlin.unlike.net/

  50. Simon

    April 18th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    I have to say comment #18 by “European” is just ucking hilarious !

  51. Simon

    April 18th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    An true.

  52. John Handelaar

    April 18th, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    How likely is it that anybody would be making this site if any of the myopic, money-averse, user-hostile American outfits being cloned simply pushed out translations of their own sites in the first place?

  53. antje wilsch

    April 18th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    @John, localisation takes money, language support and time. 3 things most start-ups are short on. Makes total sense for any company to start and nail it down right in the language the 4-10 people working there know best. Also creates an (perhaps unfortunate) opportunity for others to copy in a diff language.

  54. Dominik

    April 18th, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    They even link to this article… Are they proud of what they’re doing?

  55. Peter

    April 18th, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    And what about http://www.plazes.com ? They already innovated out of Germany, when Web 2.0 didn´t even exist as a label. I think you even covered them on your first day.

  56. johnson

    April 19th, 2008 at 12:14 am

    I’d rather say, they’re doing it right.
    They don’t even have to start a marketing campaign or whatever, your annoyance is totally enough to bring those guys into one of the biggest blogs ww.

    And by the way: Bosch, Einstein, Röntgen, Reis, Daimler, Gutenberg, Diesel - I think Germany is just taking back what they’ve given to yanks and the whole world few decades ago.

  57. martin

    April 19th, 2008 at 12:37 am

    that’s why I have to leave this country as soon as possible, sf sounds nice I guess

  58. Frank Koehntopp

    April 19th, 2008 at 12:55 am

    Well, while I agree with the whole innovation thing, you might also see this as a consequence of US startups ignoring the international audience. So, you can wait for something like eBay or Facebook to be translated to german, or you can DIY and wait for them to acquire you (happened in the case of eBay/Alando.de).
    Sometimes, the innovation part then happens a short while after the copying. In any case, it helps spread the ideas and social networks internationally, which is never a bad thing.

  59. Monsoon

    April 19th, 2008 at 2:00 am

    The Freundfeed ripoff of Friendfeed is terrible…..

    I would say rather silly actually because the logo/name/font are so similar that most people would think that it is the same organisation. Why build up something you know you will receive a cease and desist letter as soon as you have the slightest traction?

    Xing and Internations.com are very good German start-ups and I think that it is a bit unfair to characterize all Germany based on just a few. Anyone visiting the company review section of Techcrunch can see dozens of US based copycats. The only difference may be whether copycats are VC funded or not and for that I am not so sure.

    More and more it sounds like that a global strategy is the way to go for many start-ups from day 1 anyway.

  60. Thomas Huhn

    April 19th, 2008 at 3:50 am

    Sorry you guys from freundefeed, but this is so ridiculous that I really, really hope FOR YOU that you’ll never launch this site. And if you do, be prepared that friendfeed.com will sue you and blow you right off the internet landscape. The friendfeed guys have millions in their pockets from their Google stock options and will surely not hesitate to get rid of you.

    Guys like you are really a pain in the ass for all entrepreneurs that are honestly looking for international acceptance and maybe even venture capital. I’m ashamed that this happens again in Germany.

    @Michael: I think I can proove you wrong about German startups in general though - please don’t be so focused on these ‘black sheeps’ which are only looking for making a couple of quick bucks.
    There IS real innovation coming from Germany and I hope you’ll gonna cover it on TC as soon as we’re launching http://lifestrea.ms to the public.

  61. User

    April 19th, 2008 at 4:39 am

    “Web innovation in that country too often distills down to “copy/paste innovation.””.

    Ever taken a look at “Unternehmen Patentraub 1945″, a book covering how US government took thousands of patents after WW2? Its easy blaming someone a copier without taking a look at the own history… But this of course is no excuse for starting a copy&paste website…

  62. Jagermo

    April 19th, 2008 at 5:24 am

    @Dominik #53.
    Seems like there is no bad publicity, huh? I’m staying with the original.

  63. U.

    April 19th, 2008 at 6:17 am

    What is your real problem with copycats respectively freundefeed?
    The fact that we have a copycat mentality all over the world (not only in Germany!) or the manner how freundefeed is copying.
    BTW: it is just a homepage where you can enter your mail address … not so much copied so far :)

  64. Cem Basman

    April 19th, 2008 at 7:00 am

    Oh, Michael! It is a joke of course. It is a joke that makes fun of your “German copycat” rants :-)))

  65. Timo Heuer

    April 19th, 2008 at 7:04 am

    Too bad you are only mentioning Germany when it’s about copycats, Mike. We can offer you so much more and so much innovative things. No need to stay focused on those copycats. And you don’t actually know if this is really a copycat. Okay, the logo looks the same and of course, the name is friendfeed with a poor translation. But they haven’t started yet. Give them a try. I guess they want to generate some buzz and then start over with a new logo. Just a guess.

    StudiVZ and its design is stolen from Facebook, we all know. But they are really successful here. They reach the audience they want in Germany and moth of teens know them or have an account. Much more than Facebook or even MySpace (which is used for discovering new music by the youth). I can confirm that, I am a German teen myself.

    Anyway, thanks for the post.

  66. Francis, Infopirat

    April 19th, 2008 at 7:18 am

    I don’t know why you cover things like this. Is that the only way to make it into TC with a german startup? Publishing weak viral videos or just rip off?

    Take http://oneview.de as an example. Oneview was founded 1998 (!!!) and is a social bookmarking platform.

    Del.icio.us = 2003
    Digg.com = 2004

    So please Michael. It would be great if you would write without prejudice. If you need german bloggers with web 2.0 knowledge - let me know - we have a lot of them.

  67. T. Hieb

    April 19th, 2008 at 8:24 am

    Hahaha! The Americans are just too slow! Why not release a German version at the beginning? No! The only focus on the American market and wonder if copycats from Europe appear :-)

  68. antje wilsch

    April 19th, 2008 at 8:52 am

    @T.Hieb, see my answer on #52. Of course they’re going to focus on the american market if they’re americans, duh. What kind of company is going to launch out of the gate in 17 different languages they have to support. Answer: 0. Any startup needs to get its own version right before running off to support other languages [of which they might not even be able to communicate with their customers].

    But there is a lot of other good stuff coming out of Germany, much of it not in English (yet?).

  69. Tobias Hieb

    April 19th, 2008 at 10:04 am

    #66 Dude… Don`t post with my name…

  70. johnson

    April 19th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    http://www.zweinull.cc/freunde.....#more-1146

    This one hits it

  71. Timo Heuer

    April 19th, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    Tobias, this wasn’t you? That’s one of the reasions why I have my comment stream: http://del.icio.us/thcomments where I bookmark the permalinks to the comments I’ve written.

  72. Biernot

    April 19th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    Well. Most Germans are bettter in engineering than having good business ideas. That’s for sure!

  73. Tobias Hieb

    April 20th, 2008 at 1:41 am

    @Biernot

    The problem is, that the german internet users are 2-3 years behind the US users. Many german users have no idea about typical web 2.0 features. Example: Twitter. In the US twitter is popular. In Germany twitter and the german copycats are not working. Thats very gloomy… German founders have ideas - but you cannot follow your ideas if the market will not accept your product.

  74. Benjamin Jörissen

    April 20th, 2008 at 1:47 am

    Now, this is really bad behavior. The guy also works for a company that invented social tech news … kidding, that made another digg clone.

    I thought it would be a good idea to post your remarks there; maybe s/o wants to digg, err, “trnd” this news on tectrnd: http://www.tectrnd.com/index.php

  75. Nicole Simon

    April 20th, 2008 at 3:56 am

    As usual - it makes sense to try out a copy cat as a business. And be it just for the reason that the German market is big enough to sustain nice revenue if you play it right. Also, due to the language barrier it is not as if most of the ‘inventions’ of web20 ever arrived in the public conscious.

    Something like Flickr still is considered exotic.

    As usual also, local does not necessary mean translation. And in the specific case of Friendfeed: As long as they fail to manage the language separation of content I might just go on and make (as usual) 2 accounts just to keep the languages straight. Which is dividing the scenes (english / no english) further.

    Which opens up the gates for more ‘copycats’. And I have to believe there is a grumpiness against Germany here which I think it is uncalled for. There are other startups copying successful startups, but you call them competition, unless they come from Germany. Why is that?

    Also you seem to ignore if they take it further and just stay with a narrow view “they are just copycats” - why is that as well?

    btw: germans spend 18.5 billion euros (that is 29 billion dollars) last year in online shopping. If startups neglect such a market, they cannot really complain about others taking the chance.

    [having the same kind of name and logo of course is stupid, you need to play it correctly. Any VC investing money in this could rather throw it out the window as Falk said - the critical mass will not come].

  76. biernot

    April 20th, 2008 at 6:41 am

    @Tobias
    You’re wrong. Germans are not like 2-3 years behind. It’s more like some kind of culture issue. I bet that twitter will never become popular in Germany.

    Let’s take the example iPhone. What a hype in the US. But the Germans take it cool and only a few people are really interested in to get one.

    I don’t like the iPhone either. Not worth its money.

  77. Joachim Graf

    April 21st, 2008 at 2:05 am

    I know the guys from Freundefeed - they are working at the moment to make a copy tiger out of the copy cat (growing bigger than the original) - and they want to change the logo as well. Hey - its all about speed going online ….

  78. Ole Wiemeler

    April 21st, 2008 at 4:36 am

    @Michael the idea of a SocialStream is not a innovation of friendfeed.com. In that way Friendfeed is also a copycat ;-) It`s nice to see how you make PR for Freundefeed. But i agree, i don`t like the stupit logo and name copy!

  79. Vera

    April 21st, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    Russian social networking site http://vkontakte.ru (In Contact) is a direct rip of Facebook, except maybe a few months behind.

  80. Atul Abraham

    April 21st, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    freindfeed should have bought up domain names that could one day be competition as part of its launch strategy, since they couldnt think of that, serves them right,

  81. Thomas

    April 25th, 2008 at 11:46 am

    Also copies are http://www,spirofrog.de is a copy of http://www.monster.com

    And http://www.whatsyourplace.de is a copy of http://www.plazes.com

    But who cares? ideas are not “secure” ..and the Net is fast !

    Best Thomas

  82. Jodi Church-Wagner

    April 28th, 2008 at 2:32 am

    I left you a picture and a little not on the subject of German copycats here: http://wagner.journalspace.com/?entryid=944

    In regards to Freundefeed, if you check the top German sites for RSS feeds and APIs, beyond Mister Wong, who does have RSS feed for all pages, but no API, other German sites are far from being able to offer their service in this feed, so I don’t see how freundefeed is going to be of any use to the Germans.

    Thanks for the link ;-)

  83. Jodi Church-Wagner

    April 28th, 2008 at 7:07 am

    @Dan Johnston, Trust me, this is not from Mister Wong. Of course any German site like this would or should include Mister Wong. But Mister Wong just acquired http://lifestream.fm/

  84. Marcus

    April 30th, 2008 at 9:37 am

    @Jodi

    Be fair!

    There are a lot of German sites who do have RSS feed for all pages. Your comment is to “biased” as a member of the international Mister Wong Team.

    If I would be unfair, I could say, Mister Wong is a German copy cat of http://www.oneview.de but I would never do that ;o)

    check Wikipedia for details:

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneview

    http://newmedia.wikia.com/wiki/Social_Bookmarking

    “History

    The concept of shared online bookmarking dates back to April 1996 with the launch of itList.com. Within the next three years online bookmark services became competitive, with venture-backed companies like Backflip, Blink, Clip2, Hotlinks, Quiver, and others entering the market. Lacking viable models for making money, most of this early generation of social bookmarking companies failed as the dot-com bubble burst. The contemporary concepts of social bookmarking and tagging took root with the launch of the web site oneview[1]in 1999 and del.icio.us, in 2003. “

  85. Jodi Church-Wagner

    May 1st, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    @Marcus, I was being fair. I was only stating what the problem is. We have this problem as well, which I even said. I was referring to the kind of sites people would especially want a feed from, when you compare to similar services in English (aka the copycat versions). I will leave it at that because I am not going to name them. I am not dissing any site, not even freundefeed. If you read my comments, and also see that Michael named me in giving the tip about freundefeed, then you should realize, I only did something good for them. I’m not a mean, jealous, or hateful person, so I don’t roll with such tactics.

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