April 17, 2008

Liveblogging Google Q1 Earnings Report—Fears Were Overblown

Erick Schonfeld

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googleogo14.gifGoogle reported earnings for the first quarter. The fears of a meltdown were overblown. Revenue was $5.2 billion, up 42 percent year-over-year and up 7 percent from the fourth quarter in 2007. After traffic acquisition costs (what Google pays its publisher partners) revenues directly to Google were $3.7 billion. Net income for the quarter was $1.31 billion, up 8 percent from the fourth quarter.

A recording of the call is here.

Paid click growth was 20 percent year-over-year, vastly different than the flattish growth comScore was estimating. Also significant is that this is the first time international revenues exceeded U.S. revenues (51 percent of the total).

The earnings call is about to start. Here are my notes:

Eric Schmidt: Strategy of search, ads, and apps is beginning to pay off. Actually “transformative” in that it is letting people do things they were not able to before.

We are putting more control in the hands of advertisers. Doubleclick is hugely strategic. Allows us to offer a more comprehensive solution.

The recently announced Salesforce.com partnerships allows us to integrate Salesforce and Google apps. by doing these partnerships and investing in the app model, we think people will be able to do more things online in a way that was not possible before like share documents and calendars.

George Reyes: Results include DoubleClick since the acquisition was complete, but not materials in the quarter. Paid click growth on Google.com remains healthy.

Traffic acquisition costs of $1.5 billion in the Q was 29% of revenues, down from 30% in Q4.

19,156 employees at the end of the quarter, including DoubleClick. 20% (?) of U.S. DoublelClick employees have been laid off, and another 15% are expected to leave. Only in the U.S., Internationally, keeping all the headcount.

$1.78B cash flow, capex $842M,

free cash flow $938M, up 50 percent year-over-year

Sergey Brin:

Let me highlight search improvements in last 90 days. have launched more than 100 improvements in search quality. New tailored home pages in international markets, such as Japan. Also better job in foreign countries selecting domestic results.

UI improvements: can search within site on the search results page.

In the past year we have deployed Universal Search. Over the past year since we launched it able to double the number of queries where we show theses, especially images, maps and books.

On maps, have deployed Streetview in more cities (12?). Also including user-contributed data. allow users to correct information on Maps.

We have also been working on difficult queries. We were able to make a very large improvement in what we consider the hardest 20 percent of our queries. that was a big achievement that really stands out n my mind.

Mobile: faster search experience. Mobile available in 40 languages. Mobile search growing very rapidly. Mobile users now get entire library of YouTube videos.

We were pleased with our participation in the 700MHz spectrum auction. We are pleased with the results that will benefit Google and developers alike.

Larry Page: Launched Google Ad Manager for publishers. In testing publishers greatly increased their revenues. Also launched demographic targeting on social networks.

On AdWords, Conversion Optimizer which we launched in Q07 now seeing a lot of adoption. Can pay by conversion instead of by click. In Analytics, we launched industry benchmarking. A very popular feature. We find that people who use Analytics end up increasing their ad spend with us.

On YouTube, AdSense for video and in-video ads, seeing much better clickthroughs than banner ads.

Launched Google Sites, also rolled out offline Docs using Google Gears. We are also very excited about our Salesforce.com partnership [Oh, just buy them already].

Q&A:

UBS: Can you talk about key initiatives at DoubleClick? How are video ads doing? Also update on CFO search.

Eric: On CFO search, we have a whole bunch of interesting candidates. We have not made any offers yet.

?: From a customer relationship point of view on the display side we are taking advantage of our properties,especially YouTube. We are taking advantage of the DoubelClick salesforce to reach new advertisers.

Jonathan: We feel we are in a position to become the world’s largest display ad provider. 90 percent of our ads are available for display ads. Activision used 7 Google products to launch Tony Hawk game [really going after integrated buys].

Merrill Lynch: Can you talk about display model, on network sites or your own? What is driving cost of revenue growth?

Sergey: YouTube is already running display ads. Other sites like Orkut could be candidates. Also making strides on the network. Optimistic on both fronts.

Reyes: Costs are driven by data center expenses, bandwidth costs and some DB amortization.

Q: Is Google not seeing macro impact

Eric: on the macro side, we have looked at this closely and not seeing that at this time. We are well positioned should economics change because our model is so targeted, and targeted advertising does well in most scenarios we feel.

Sergey: I was not referring to advertising improvements. But clickable backgrounds that we eliminated resulted in improvements. Certainly dozens of improvements in advertising quality we launched in the quarter.

Q: Which quality improvements have had the greatest impact on advertising?

Jonathan: There were relatively fewer in terms of impact on the quarter than we normally have because they came at the end. landing page quality improvements. have removed a lot of the made for ad. pages. Also URL matching policy, change in UK trademarks policy, removed restrictions on trademarks in the UK. The one other thing that I saw was just a very modest test, automatic matching beta test, trying to extend reach of advertiser.

Mark Mahaney: Are there enough data points so you know what the economics of mobile search will be vs. desktop search. At 20% year over year paid click growth, that was better than expected. Is that sustainable?

Sergey: On mobile anecdotally, in countries and markets where mobile has been developed, where there are devices and low latency like Japan. Mobile search and ads work very well. I don’t have the exact data. Nothing to dissuade me that it would be substantially different than traditional desktop search. In Europe and the U.S., which are behind but progressing, you will see more usage.

You have smaller screens so cannot display as much but have more information.

Eric: answer to your deceleration Q is No. We k now if we can improve aggregate quality the number of paid clicks will grow. We are very optimistic that this model of staying focussed on quality will give us the strongest ad network.

JPMorgan: You talked about monetization improvement fro social networking. What kind of improvement versus Q4? Also in terms of search quality

Larry: On social networking monetization, it is an area where we have tried a lot of new technologies. Demographic targeting has been successful. The challenge and the opportunity is that there is a lot of inventory. Part of it is just getting the advertising ecosystem built up and targeting in a way that makes sense. We have made some improvements but there are more improvements to be made. It takes time for advertisers to [get up to speed].

Q: Should Yahoo choose to outsource search to you, what benefit would it be to Google’s own network? And can you talk about different economic sectors, what you are seeing?

Eric: On the yahoo Q, we are very excited to be participating in this test. Second week of the test. It is nice to be working with Yahoo and we like them very much. Not appropriate to comment beyond that.

Jonathan: in an economy hat is slowing you would look at sectors like autos and travel. What we see is that clicks in some of those ares grow less than other areas, but on an absolute basis hose areas are doing well, absolute growth. Even in mortgages.

Q: Any updates on China and the team there?

Eric: On the China side, things are moving well. Why don’t we move to the next question. [Hmm, sounds like he really didn’t want to talk about that. Actually he just didn’t hear it. See response below.]

Q: Which area is growing faster, small self-sign up advertisers or large agencies?

?: We do see bigger advertisers be bigger drivers of growth [because they use more tools].

MorganStanley: As DoubleClick is integrated, will that drive more revenue growth?

Adding more display creates more competition among advertisers. There are plenty of reasons to believe there are positive dynamics.

Q: You mentioned 90% of ad formats are eligible for display, can you talk about effective CPMs of display versus search ads?

Omid: We let advertisers pay any way they like.

Jonathan: what we are trying t do is come up with a way to manage the auction so the text ads compete with the display ads, so three text ads versus one display ad units. That is basically how it works.

Eric Let me on china, we are seeing market share and revenue growth as we learn to operate in that environment. The market is nascent by the Internet is so large. [He wasn’t ducking the question before, just didn’t hear it the first time].

Q: U.S. revenues were up $29 million. Without DC it could have been flat. Is this sequential growth that you put up this Q is that more a reflection of where we are in the search cycle in the U.S.

Eric: We know what it is not, not macro economic. could have something to do with timing of deals, maturity of search advertising n the Us.

Jonathan: you have to be careful when you look at annualized YOY comparison. In the base Q you are comparing to, this Q last year we added a lot of big partners to AdSense. relative to that year we did not have a lot of big partners to add. It is primarily a factor for that. Also the AdSense for Domains cleanup.

Eric: This is the Q our international sales are 51 percent, I don’t think that number is going to go down. this is the quarter the sales team made Google a truly international company.

Call is over.

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  1. 113.com

    The net will prevail… gcosm at work, don’t worry… :-o

  2. Ema

    “told ya so”

  3. Mark Newman

    Stock is already up 11.5% in after hours trading. Not too shabby for the bulls who bought and the bottom.

    I wonder when expectations will be different though for Google. 40% growth is unsustainable and anytime that is suggested the stock takes a dive. A some point in the future expectations need to be more realistic.

  4. bflora

    here’s something I always wonder…is there any way to know these guys are telling the truth on these call-ins? It’s well and good for Schmidt to say this stuff, but so what?

  5. TechBaba

    Search & Ads are fetching lot of revenue for Google. Google Apps are for engaging the users with Google. Good strategy :)

  6. Ema

    You Go Google! http://www.clowcash.com

  7. Todd

    What!?!? Google ‘only” made $1,310,000,000.00 in the last 88 days? OMG it’s over! They are toast! Epic fail! Sell the stock before it’s completely worthless! Sarcasm aside, Google and Twitter haters can GTFO.

  8. Startup News

    Men . I almost bought 200 April 490 calls .. but who knew . I would have been so paid ..
    It didnt happen though

  9. Siddharth

    Big figures for google. The inbuilt ads will sure do well in Youtube, I know that. The results for Nokia was not so well as compared to google. They are up 26% but still seeing downside.

  10. Publisher Take

    Looks like they are paying publishers 29% on average for all those that claim not to know google’s take.

  11. M.asim

    HI!
    Dear entrepreneurs ,there is a question.
    I want to start my startup(service) from Malaysia(I am Pakistani).I need small amount of money(30,000$) to start this service.I dont have this amount of money and I could not raise this amount from COCA COLA and some other companies.
    By concentrating on funding efforts ,I am losing my focus from main objective.
    What is best option now?
    Should i leave this plan or wait till i earn enough amount of money for this service?
    Is it wise to finance a startup from personal pocket?

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  13. Dilbert

    Good news for anyone piggy-backing on Google’s success.

  14. Brett

    And the stock took a dip today? Strange.

  15. Joshua

    Henry Blodget, and all the naysayer bloggers (Barrons 350 google ) should BE FIRED.

    They caused alot of shareholder pain, predicting gloom/doom on GOOGLE to drive traffic to their blogs.

  16. Steven

    AdGooroo was correct…

    http://www.adgooroo.com/google....._share.php

  17. Crazyglues

    wow and Google does it again…

  18. Anan

    AdGooroo was correct and google is only going to get bigger…wonder if they will ever topple microsoft…..

  19. Memembe Khadi

    When did google go public?

  20. mike

    How much did DoubleClick contribute to their revenue? Just trying to figure out what that 42% YoY growth would have looked like without that acquisition…

  21. ZiPhone User

    Well hey, it’s easy to make that much money when you sell ads and then don’t pay out :)

    http://www.ziphone.org/2008/03.....ieves.html

  22. Richard Jalichandra

    Once again, comScore exposed as completely inaccurate. They’ve completely got to change their methodology across the board, or they’ll become totally irrelevant as the web becomes more ‘quantified’.

  23. HA

    But what will democrats do now to create panic in the electorate. You know their power is worth more then our success.

  24. bernie lomax

    #8. Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. Sit on the sidelines like the boys my friend.

  25. Confused

    This only shows that The Google is no longer a tech company…they are a market company - like Microsoft, IBM, Coke and GE

    The market way undervalued all market companies, so it is easy for The Google, etc to surpass the low expectations….

    Smart money stopped investing in The Google years ago…

    Look to see how quickly The Google insiders bail and cash out on this pop

    Look for a lot more employees bailing to FaceBook, MySpace, Yahoo, AOL, and yes…even…Microsoft in the next few months

    Sure you can make short term gains trading The Google for several months…or perhaps even longer until the masses get a clue……but wouldn’t you rather be investing in companies with real long term potential?

  26. Uway

    why don’t you use http://www.coveritlive.com/ for your liveblogging

  27. Online biz guy

    I say it’s about time!!! The stock’s been battered lately, down 36% for the year on recession fears. I guess the net economy is different than the housing and mortgage economy.

    http://www.feedbacksecrets.com

  28. HA

    You show em Google!

  29. WidowMaker

    Google is really a Widget when 60% of there profits comes from network publisters. Googles site still looks like 1999. Search is Dead. Location is Everything.

    http://www.popularmechanics.co.....59135.html

    http://www.killerstartups.com/.....or-Network

  30. Dash Chang

    Google’s Search and International Growth Hides Declining US Clicks

    The US Long Tail of Millions of Bloggers and Publishers Lose.

    (http://adecon101.blogspot.com/2008/04/googles-search-and-international-growth.html)

    What do you think?

  31. Dash Chang

    Post

  32. bflora

    Google is a monopoly we can not deny it but I must say that they are not a bad monopoly I openly welcome them!

  33. JerkCrunch

    So, all the FUD and bullshit spread from TC and specially from Arrington were false?

    Whowulddathunk?

  34. Haters

    What is it about TC’s demographics that drive such anti-Google sentiment? I never encounter this sentiment in other forums, and most of the devs and entrepreneurs I meet have a far more positive view of Google and far more negative view of MS than the TC crowd. Many of the companies covered on TC are purely junk Web 2.0 sites with no defensible innovative technology, ironically, with no real way to make money or exit short of acquisition, many of which pray for a GOOG acquisition.

  35. Windfall Profit tax anyone

    greed is good”

  36. Stefan

    Keep in mind that a lot of the financial performance in the last FQ is based on wind-fall profits.

    Take Europe for example: AdWords are charged in EURO; AdSense at the same time-however- in USD.

  37. RP

    Another Google trick!..the lowballed previous results just to get their new employees options attractive. Nice idea. Keeps talent from running away.
    It is in league with what they did with FCC for the bandwidth bidding and may be with adword merchants with PayPerClick throttling.

    But everything is fair!

  38. Reality-Networkers.com

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