Comments on: Google Finally Takes Urchin Out Of Beta http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:28:58 -0800 hourly 1 By: Google Finally Takes Urchin Out Of Beta | Code4DotNet http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-2185788 Google Finally Takes Urchin Out Of Beta | Code4DotNet Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:49:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/#comment-2185788 [...] Read on TechCrunch [...] [...] Read on TechCrunch [...]

]]> By: Petar Djekic http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-2185680 Petar Djekic Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:03:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/#comment-2185680 Analytics is not more inaccurate than other JS based solutions (see http://www.stonetemple.com/articles/analytics-report-august-2007.shtml for a good comparison). I think combined with the Website Optimizer you got a analytics package from Google thats beats solution that cost 10k and more (at the price of having Google reading your data). Now that Yahoo is considering giving IndexTools away for free it starts to get really interesting, and im glad i do not make analytics software for a living Analytics is not more inaccurate than other JS based solutions (see http://www.ston...gust-2007.shtml for a good comparison). I think combined with the Website Optimizer you got a analytics package from Google thats beats solution that cost 10k and more (at the price of having Google reading your data).

Now that Yahoo is considering giving IndexTools away for free it starts to get really interesting, and im glad i do not make analytics software for a living

]]> By: weeee http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-2184683 weeee Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:51:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/#comment-2184683 $3k is nothing. We use Ominture at work and it''s friggn $54k a year for 4 websites. Totally not worth the price difference over google analytics. Both Omniture and Webside Story's Hitbox both run javascript client side, not server side. $3k is nothing. We use Ominture at work and it’’s friggn $54k a year for 4 websites. Totally not worth the price difference over google analytics. Both Omniture and Webside Story’s Hitbox both run javascript client side, not server side.

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Google、ついにUrchinをベータから昇格 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-2184669 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Google、ついにUrchinをベータから昇格 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:44:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/#comment-2184669 [...] ［原文へ］ [...] [...] ［原文へ］ [...]

]]> By: Ian Bell http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-2184478 Ian Bell Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:08:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/#comment-2184478 Guys...there is a big difference between Urchin and Google Analytics. Uchin runs server side, so the information is a lot more accurate and comes straight from your server logs. Analytics is javascript code placed on your website, and usually at the bottom of the site. So if that page doesn't load completely, or someone clicks on an image before the page loads, Google Analytics will not register that user. Just one example. We have been using Urchin for years (older version) and like it a lot. It reports more information and behavior and is more accurate. A lot of the professional analytics programs cost money. Webtrends, Omniture etc. and for a serious site, they are valuable tools. (Omniture even integrates with DoubleClick) Now if you just blog or do not get a lot of traffic or revenue, by all means stick with Site Meter or Google Analytics. Guys…there is a big difference between Urchin and Google Analytics. Uchin runs server side, so the information is a lot more accurate and comes straight from your server logs. Analytics is javascript code placed on your website, and usually at the bottom of the site. So if that page doesn’t load completely, or someone clicks on an image before the page loads, Google Analytics will not register that user. Just one example.

We have been using Urchin for years (older version) and like it a lot. It reports more information and behavior and is more accurate. A lot of the professional analytics programs cost money. Webtrends, Omniture etc. and for a serious site, they are valuable tools. (Omniture even integrates with DoubleClick)

Now if you just blog or do not get a lot of traffic or revenue, by all means stick with Site Meter or Google Analytics.

]]> By: Will Johnston http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-2184449 Will Johnston Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:47:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/#comment-2184449 I use Urchin at work, and I can't say I'm too impressed. The interface is clunky, especially for a $3000 piece of software. I use Urchin at work, and I can’t say I’m too impressed. The interface is clunky, especially for a $3000 piece of software.

]]> By: Flip Orley http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-2183999 Flip Orley Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:11:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/#comment-2183999 There is also the fact that Google Analytics is not 'free' for high profile sites since they require Google Ads (or did)... There is also the fact that Google Analytics is not ‘free’ for high profile sites since they require Google Ads (or did)…

]]> By: Alex P http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-2183874 Alex P Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:38:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/#comment-2183874 In other words, for $3000 Google is willing to let you keep your server stats private. Pretty affordable if you ask me. In other words, for $3000 Google is willing to let you keep your server stats private. Pretty affordable if you ask me.

]]> By: Asad http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-2183814 Asad Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:20:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/#comment-2183814 Just letting you guys know I just tried to come here and this is the error I got: Error 503 Service Unavailable Error talking to backend Guru Meditation: XID: 1659472423 Varnish I tried to come here again and the site loaded. Dont know code myself so I dont really know what it means. Just letting you guys know I just tried to come here and this is the error I got:

Error 503 Service Unavailable

Error talking to backend
Guru Meditation:

XID: 1659472423
Varnish

I tried to come here again and the site loaded. Dont know code myself so I dont really know what it means.

]]> By: TechBaba http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-2183809 TechBaba Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:17:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/#comment-2183809 Urchin is not free ($2995 license fee) and requires experienced technical staff for installation. Only benefit is that, it can provide a high level of control and customization since it is housed on your own server. I think it is only for large sites having skilled technical staff. For medium level sites it would be better to go with Google Analytics. Urchin is not free ($2995 license fee) and requires experienced technical staff for installation. Only benefit is that, it can provide a high level of control and customization since it is housed on your own server. I think it is only for large sites having skilled technical staff. For medium level sites it would be better to go with Google Analytics.

]]> By: Siddharth http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-2183754 Siddharth Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:58:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/#comment-2183754 While Google Urchin is a premium utility for tracking site visitors, I think Google Analytics has sure acquired a lots of webmasters attention on the internet. Its features and ease of use with the free tag surely makes it a good option for the webmasters to track the visitors and vice versa. While Google Urchin is a premium utility for tracking site visitors, I think Google Analytics has sure acquired a lots of webmasters attention on the internet. Its features and ease of use with the free tag surely makes it a good option for the webmasters to track the visitors and vice versa.

]]> By: Gregory Yankelovich http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-2183753 Gregory Yankelovich Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:58:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/google-finally-takes-urchin-out-of-beta/#comment-2183753 There is nothing free. Google analytics's availability is spotty, methodology unclear, and stats do not agree with results obtained directly from the source. I would say that if the analytics important to you, it is better to pay for quality. The Adobe Air is using Google data through API and as such is just as useless. There is nothing free. Google analytics’s availability is spotty, methodology unclear, and stats do not agree with results obtained directly from the source. I would say that if the analytics important to you, it is better to pay for quality. The Adobe Air is using Google data through API and as such is just as useless.

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