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	<title>Comments on: Mowser Founder Says Mobile Web Is Dead. It&#8217;s The Opposite: The Mobile Web Was Born Only Yesterday</title>
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		<title>By: Japan’s super-advanced mobile web: Too unique to serve as a global blueprint? &#183; ordaso.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2434925</link>
		<dc:creator>Japan’s super-advanced mobile web: Too unique to serve as a global blueprint? &#183; ordaso.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Over one billion cell phones have been sold worldwide in the last year, but in the US or Europe, the mobile Internet is still catching on relatively slowly. There even was a heated debate in the blogosphere just recently whether the mobile web has a future at all. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Over one billion cell phones have been sold worldwide in the last year, but in the US or Europe, the mobile Internet is still catching on relatively slowly. There even was a heated debate in the blogosphere just recently whether the mobile web has a future at all. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: World IT News &#8250; Japan’s super-advanced mobile web: Too unique to serve as a global blueprint?</title>
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		<dc:creator>World IT News &#8250; Japan’s super-advanced mobile web: Too unique to serve as a global blueprint?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Japan’s super-advanced mobile web: Too unique to serve as a global blueprint?  Over one billion cell phones have been sold worldwide in the last year, but in the US or Europe, the mobile Internet is still catching on relatively slowly. There even was a heated debate in the blogosphere just recently whether the mobile web has a future at all. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Japan’s super-advanced mobile web: Too unique to serve as a global blueprint?  Over one billion cell phones have been sold worldwide in the last year, but in the US or Europe, the mobile Internet is still catching on relatively slowly. There even was a heated debate in the blogosphere just recently whether the mobile web has a future at all. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Japan’s super-advanced mobile web: Too unique to serve as a global blueprint? &#124; Trinitude Network</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2433245</link>
		<dc:creator>Japan’s super-advanced mobile web: Too unique to serve as a global blueprint? &#124; Trinitude Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Over one billion cell phones have been sold worldwide in the last year, but in the US or Europe, the mobile Internet is still catching on relatively slowly. There even was a heated debate in the blogosphere just recently whether the mobile web has a future at all. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Over one billion cell phones have been sold worldwide in the last year, but in the US or Europe, the mobile Internet is still catching on relatively slowly. There even was a heated debate in the blogosphere just recently whether the mobile web has a future at all. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Japan’s super-advanced mobile web: Too unique to serve as a global blueprint?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2432687</link>
		<dc:creator>Japan’s super-advanced mobile web: Too unique to serve as a global blueprint?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Over one billion cell phones have been sold worldwide in the last year, but in the US or Europe, the mobile Internet is still catching on relatively slowly. There even was a heated debate in the blogosphere just recently whether the mobile web has a future at all. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Over one billion cell phones have been sold worldwide in the last year, but in the US or Europe, the mobile Internet is still catching on relatively slowly. There even was a heated debate in the blogosphere just recently whether the mobile web has a future at all. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Update: Mowser Assets Find a home at dotMobi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2284956</link>
		<dc:creator>Update: Mowser Assets Find a home at dotMobi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 13:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s always a good idea to kill your startup in public. Russell Beattie did that last month with Mowser, a service that converts regular Web addresses into mobile-friendly ones, because he said didn&#8217;t &#8220;believe in the &#8216;Mobile Web&#8217; anymore.&#8221; Luckily for him, some people disagreed with him (and not just Mike). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s always a good idea to kill your startup in public. Russell Beattie did that last month with Mowser, a service that converts regular Web addresses into mobile-friendly ones, because he said didn&#8217;t &#8220;believe in the &#8216;Mobile Web&#8217; anymore.&#8221; Luckily for him, some people disagreed with him (and not just Mike). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Design Idea &#187; The Mobile Web</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2239587</link>
		<dc:creator>Design Idea &#187; The Mobile Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the point. This is aknowledged by its creator, Russell Beattie, in his leaving letter, which was widely and wildly misinterpreted after it was published. Beattie&#8217;s leaving note, far from being [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the point. This is aknowledged by its creator, Russell Beattie, in his leaving letter, which was widely and wildly misinterpreted after it was published. Beattie&#8217;s leaving note, far from being [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Viktor</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2224345</link>
		<dc:creator>Viktor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm.. maybe the exec is just going to another more profitable field by using the lame excuse that the field he is in now is dead. That way he gets two rabbits with one stone. 1. less people going to be interested in his existing business. 2. Noone would know what he up to.. meanwhile check out http://www.pccti.com . Its a healthcare and IT certification / training institute in Chicago IL. Offers various programs that will get you a good job even when US falls into the deep recession (hope everyone got the taste of it by now.. if not watch out - cuz the higher you climbed up the hill the harder is the landing... ) . So dont let me lose my job and just visit pccti.com. .. and maybe even call the school if you are in IL somewhere. I know you out there. keys / tags : ECG; EKG; LPN; MCDBA; MCSE; DMS; Chicago; Programs; Certifications</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm.. maybe the exec is just going to another more profitable field by using the lame excuse that the field he is in now is dead. That way he gets two rabbits with one stone. 1. less people going to be interested in his existing business. 2. Noone would know what he up to.. meanwhile check out <a href="http://www.pccti.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.pccti.com'>http://www.pccti.com</a> . Its a healthcare and IT certification / training institute in Chicago IL. Offers various programs that will get you a good job even when US falls into the deep recession (hope everyone got the taste of it by now.. if not watch out &#8211; cuz the higher you climbed up the hill the harder is the landing&#8230; ) . So dont let me lose my job and just visit pccti.com. .. and maybe even call the school if you are in IL somewhere. I know you out there. keys / tags : ECG; EKG; LPN; MCDBA; MCSE; DMS; Chicago; Programs; Certifications</p>
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		<title>By: MobileMarketingProfits.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2220645</link>
		<dc:creator>MobileMarketingProfits.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Why the Mobile Web MUST Survive...&lt;/strong&gt;

Much has been said about the death of the mobile web since Mowser’s founder Russell Beattie announced he was closing down his company. The reaction has been everything from agreement (here) to saying the mobile web is misunderstood, complete disagree...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Why the Mobile Web MUST Survive&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Much has been said about the death of the mobile web since Mowser’s founder Russell Beattie announced he was closing down his company. The reaction has been everything from agreement (here) to saying the mobile web is misunderstood, complete disagree&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MyTechnologyCompany.com &#187; Mastering the Mobile Web</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2206121</link>
		<dc:creator>MyTechnologyCompany.com &#187; Mastering the Mobile Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new mobile technology has made it that customers want fuller experiences on their mobile phones. He called out for more developers to build exciting applications to run specifically on the mobile [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] new mobile technology has made it that customers want fuller experiences on their mobile phones. He called out for more developers to build exciting applications to run specifically on the mobile [...]</p>
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		<title>By: On the end of Mowser, and the death of the mobile web &#124; (Mostly) About Mobility</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2205561</link>
		<dc:creator>On the end of Mowser, and the death of the mobile web &#124; (Mostly) About Mobility</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mowser Founder Says Mobile Web Is Dead. It’s The Opposite: The Mobile Web Was Born Only Yesterday (TechCrunch) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mobile Coder</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2205483</link>
		<dc:creator>Mobile Coder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding all these &quot;billons&quot; number, well, Earth&#039;s population is 6+ billion.  Are we saying the entire 1/4 of Earth is realistically available as Mobile Web users?

I figure there can&#039;t be more than 100M mobile users capable/willing to pay for Mobile Web service.  Kids can&#039;t affort their data plans unless their parents pay for it.

What do you think about the numbers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding all these &#8220;billons&#8221; number, well, Earth&#8217;s population is 6+ billion.  Are we saying the entire 1/4 of Earth is realistically available as Mobile Web users?</p>
<p>I figure there can&#8217;t be more than 100M mobile users capable/willing to pay for Mobile Web service.  Kids can&#8217;t affort their data plans unless their parents pay for it.</p>
<p>What do you think about the numbers?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2188365</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to read his blog back in 2003-4. Told him countless times in comments to monetize it better. Then last year I told him that if he&#039;d played his cards right, he could&#039;ve been in a similar position to Arrington. He treated his blog as a lark and not a business. Will he ever learn? Turn Mowser into a commercial blog on mobile. You still have time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to read his blog back in 2003-4. Told him countless times in comments to monetize it better. Then last year I told him that if he&#8217;d played his cards right, he could&#8217;ve been in a similar position to Arrington. He treated his blog as a lark and not a business. Will he ever learn? Turn Mowser into a commercial blog on mobile. You still have time.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2183151</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m a little late to the comment party here, but I could not disagree with Russ more. I was too busy processing millions of mobile web pageviews from beta testers of Mobilytics, our hosted mobile web analytics product.

As Dave and Dean have pointed out, we are seeing incredible growth in page views on the mobile web. 

When we announced the beta of Mobilytics (http://www.mobilytics.net), we asked people to take an online survey. I will publish the results on my blog, but here&#039;s a summary:

We have requests from over 200 beta testers representing a total of 1,845,056,869 page views per month. Yes that is 1.8 BILLION!

It also represents 1,014,071,014 actual visitors.

Of course, these numbers may not be right which is why they want to use Mobilytics. They are probably much LOWER than they really are since mobile phones don&#039;t do javascript, and many use same ip.

Dave pretty much summed it up. Lose the transcoding services and build useful mobile specific content. 


If anyone is interested in our beta, or taking the survey, please go to: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=ZanOuYNnUBG6UB0g9s7NnA_3d_3d



Greg Harris, CEO
Mobilytics

http://www.mobilytics.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m a little late to the comment party here, but I could not disagree with Russ more. I was too busy processing millions of mobile web pageviews from beta testers of Mobilytics, our hosted mobile web analytics product.</p>
<p>As Dave and Dean have pointed out, we are seeing incredible growth in page views on the mobile web. </p>
<p>When we announced the beta of Mobilytics (<a href="http://www.mobilytics.net)" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.mobilytics.net'>http://www.mobilytics.net</a>), we asked people to take an online survey. I will publish the results on my blog, but here&#8217;s a summary:</p>
<p>We have requests from over 200 beta testers representing a total of 1,845,056,869 page views per month. Yes that is 1.8 BILLION!</p>
<p>It also represents 1,014,071,014 actual visitors.</p>
<p>Of course, these numbers may not be right which is why they want to use Mobilytics. They are probably much LOWER than they really are since mobile phones don&#8217;t do javascript, and many use same ip.</p>
<p>Dave pretty much summed it up. Lose the transcoding services and build useful mobile specific content. </p>
<p>If anyone is interested in our beta, or taking the survey, please go to: <a href="http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=ZanOuYNnUBG6UB0g9s7NnA_3d_3d" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=ZanOuYNnUBG6UB0g9s7NnA_3d_3d'>http://www.surv...B0g9s7NnA_3d_3d</a></p>
<p>Greg Harris, CEO<br />
Mobilytics</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mobilytics.net" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.mobilytics.net'>http://www.mobilytics.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Future of the Web on Mobile Phones at Wap Review</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2181764</link>
		<dc:creator>The Future of the Web on Mobile Phones at Wap Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on Mowser and the mobile Web future: Michael Arrington - Mowser Founder Says Mobile Web Is Dead. It’s The Opposite: The Mobile Web Was Born Only Yesterday Carlo Longino - The Mobile Web Is Dead. Long Live The Mobile Web. Mike Rowehl - What Happened to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on Mowser and the mobile Web future: Michael Arrington &#8211; Mowser Founder Says Mobile Web Is Dead. It’s The Opposite: The Mobile Web Was Born Only Yesterday Carlo Longino &#8211; The Mobile Web Is Dead. Long Live The Mobile Web. Mike Rowehl &#8211; What Happened to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Harper&#8217;s Different Things &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mowser is Dead. The Mobile Web is Alive. &#8230;and I Have the &#8220;Mobile Analytics&#8221; to Prove It.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2181652</link>
		<dc:creator>David Harper&#8217;s Different Things &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mowser is Dead. The Mobile Web is Alive. &#8230;and I Have the &#8220;Mobile Analytics&#8221; to Prove It.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is Dead. Russell Beattie who recently closed down his transcoding service Mowser posted in part, &#8220;I think anyone currently developing sites using XHTML-MP markup, no [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2181272</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just recetnly began using mobile Web on my phone. Although the experience is very clunky (on my Motorola i855 at least), I find that having access to a wealth of pertinant info while on-the-go is simply invalauble.

For example, today I wanted to find out Fast Company&#039;s office number while I was in school (unfortunately, my school does not give net access to students). So I found a private corner (cell phones are banned too), Googled the site, and scanned the contact page for their 212 number. It wasn&#039;t exactly speedy as a Formula1 car, but it was convenient enough.

The mobile Web is not dead. It simply needs improvement (like how more people use smartphones).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just recetnly began using mobile Web on my phone. Although the experience is very clunky (on my Motorola i855 at least), I find that having access to a wealth of pertinant info while on-the-go is simply invalauble.</p>
<p>For example, today I wanted to find out Fast Company&#8217;s office number while I was in school (unfortunately, my school does not give net access to students). So I found a private corner (cell phones are banned too), Googled the site, and scanned the contact page for their 212 number. It wasn&#8217;t exactly speedy as a Formula1 car, but it was convenient enough.</p>
<p>The mobile Web is not dead. It simply needs improvement (like how more people use smartphones).</p>
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		<title>By: David Harper</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-2/#comment-2181116</link>
		<dc:creator>David Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is not a single transcoding service on the planet that delivers a user experience even close to what is expected of a &quot;mobile site.&quot;

What you end up (mobile pages generated automatically from web content using broad stroke rules) is not something a brand or business serious about mobile cares to have presented to their audience.  

Directly stated no one wants a lame, featureless, stripped down, even &quot;bastardized&quot; version of anything. That is true today, was true a year ago when Mowser launched, and true 8 years ago when &quot;WAP&quot; was declared dead.  Yes, for mobile enthusiasts this &quot;feature&quot; can be handy at times but for the masses those &quot;times&quot; have never come and never will.

The definition of &quot;Mobile Sites&quot; or the &quot;Mobile Web&quot;aside...

The growth of mobile [site] traffic that Dean mentions above, &quot;Amethon’s clients are seeing traffic build month on month&quot; is also being experienced across a variety of services including mobile ad networks, full featured moble site building/community services, social search/discovery and mobile analytic services.

On April 28th in New York, MobileMonday NY is hosting a free event including panelists from several companies active in mobile analytics and social search - Amethon, Bango, Mobilytics, Resolution Media, Quattro, TigTag, and taptu. 

In part, we&#039;ll be discussing insights from watching the very real growth of the Mobile Web -- what is being learned from the aggregated mobile data and social actions/interactions of people. The event is free -- learn more and RSVP here: http://www.mobilemonday-ny.com

You&#039;re all invited.

Cheers,
David Harper
Founder, Winksite
Co-Founder, MobileMonday NY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is not a single transcoding service on the planet that delivers a user experience even close to what is expected of a &#8220;mobile site.&#8221;</p>
<p>What you end up (mobile pages generated automatically from web content using broad stroke rules) is not something a brand or business serious about mobile cares to have presented to their audience.  </p>
<p>Directly stated no one wants a lame, featureless, stripped down, even &#8220;bastardized&#8221; version of anything. That is true today, was true a year ago when Mowser launched, and true 8 years ago when &#8220;WAP&#8221; was declared dead.  Yes, for mobile enthusiasts this &#8220;feature&#8221; can be handy at times but for the masses those &#8220;times&#8221; have never come and never will.</p>
<p>The definition of &#8220;Mobile Sites&#8221; or the &#8220;Mobile Web&#8221;aside&#8230;</p>
<p>The growth of mobile [site] traffic that Dean mentions above, &#8220;Amethon’s clients are seeing traffic build month on month&#8221; is also being experienced across a variety of services including mobile ad networks, full featured moble site building/community services, social search/discovery and mobile analytic services.</p>
<p>On April 28th in New York, MobileMonday NY is hosting a free event including panelists from several companies active in mobile analytics and social search &#8211; Amethon, Bango, Mobilytics, Resolution Media, Quattro, TigTag, and taptu. </p>
<p>In part, we&#8217;ll be discussing insights from watching the very real growth of the Mobile Web &#8212; what is being learned from the aggregated mobile data and social actions/interactions of people. The event is free &#8212; learn more and RSVP here: <a href="http://www.mobilemonday-ny.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.mobilemonday-ny.com'>http://www.mobilemonday-ny.com</a></p>
<p>You&#8217;re all invited.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
David Harper<br />
Founder, Winksite<br />
Co-Founder, MobileMonday NY</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-1/#comment-2180870</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - one guy decides that startup life isn&#039;t for him and this is supposed to throw a whole shadow over the industry.....hmmm I don’t think so.

I like Russell, I&#039;ve been a long time reader of his blog and an occasional user of his Mowser application.

I think the key point here is that....&quot;Mowser was filling a temporary problem&quot;, with the release of the iPhone and the imminent massive model variants of the Android OS on the Horizon and the sure but steady improvements in the Windows Mobile 6 OS I think Russell is throwing in the towel as handsets are getting &quot;good enough to no longer need Mowser&quot;.

Now do I think he threw it in too early with only 12 months operation - sure but thats because I&#039;m a serial startup entrepreneur with 2 listed companies under my belt.

As an employee of www.Amethon.com one of the worlds first mobile browser specific analytics applications just for mobile content, I for one, am seeing huge growth in mobile content.

Amethon&#039;s clients are seeing traffic build month on month, and yes I think a lot of that has to do with better quality handsets and better quality browsers and most importantly higher data speeds with somewhat more reasonable flat rate unlimited data plans.

With a better user experience more people are finding the convenience of accessing content on the move .....or standing still but getting it right where they are standing with a mobile device never far from their hand ....

The best part about this mobile content is the volume of advertising coming into the space is funding a better user experience, and with tools like Amethon Mobile Analytics users analytics information and a solid roi can be demonstrated against this advertising spend.

Am I sad to see Mowser go, yes - Will Russell bounce, for sure - one of the smartest pioneers in the mobile business, Do I think USA consumers are a little behind eastern consumer patterns in mobile content consumption - YES but that has more to do with carriers and handsets than personal desires and usage patterns.

The mobile space is just taking off, with all the fallouts and successes that there was in the desktop browser wars in the 1990&#039;s.

Watch this space and get in early......your customers are waiting.


Regards,
Dean Collins
www.Amethon.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; one guy decides that startup life isn&#8217;t for him and this is supposed to throw a whole shadow over the industry&#8230;..hmmm I don’t think so.</p>
<p>I like Russell, I&#8217;ve been a long time reader of his blog and an occasional user of his Mowser application.</p>
<p>I think the key point here is that&#8230;.&#8221;Mowser was filling a temporary problem&#8221;, with the release of the iPhone and the imminent massive model variants of the Android OS on the Horizon and the sure but steady improvements in the Windows Mobile 6 OS I think Russell is throwing in the towel as handsets are getting &#8220;good enough to no longer need Mowser&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now do I think he threw it in too early with only 12 months operation &#8211; sure but thats because I&#8217;m a serial startup entrepreneur with 2 listed companies under my belt.</p>
<p>As an employee of <a href="http://www.Amethon.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.Amethon.com'>http://www.Amethon.com</a> one of the worlds first mobile browser specific analytics applications just for mobile content, I for one, am seeing huge growth in mobile content.</p>
<p>Amethon&#8217;s clients are seeing traffic build month on month, and yes I think a lot of that has to do with better quality handsets and better quality browsers and most importantly higher data speeds with somewhat more reasonable flat rate unlimited data plans.</p>
<p>With a better user experience more people are finding the convenience of accessing content on the move &#8230;..or standing still but getting it right where they are standing with a mobile device never far from their hand &#8230;.</p>
<p>The best part about this mobile content is the volume of advertising coming into the space is funding a better user experience, and with tools like Amethon Mobile Analytics users analytics information and a solid roi can be demonstrated against this advertising spend.</p>
<p>Am I sad to see Mowser go, yes &#8211; Will Russell bounce, for sure &#8211; one of the smartest pioneers in the mobile business, Do I think USA consumers are a little behind eastern consumer patterns in mobile content consumption &#8211; YES but that has more to do with carriers and handsets than personal desires and usage patterns.</p>
<p>The mobile space is just taking off, with all the fallouts and successes that there was in the desktop browser wars in the 1990&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Watch this space and get in early&#8230;&#8230;your customers are waiting.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Dean Collins<br />
<a href="http://www.Amethon.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.Amethon.com'>http://www.Amethon.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: dc crowley</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-1/#comment-2180550</link>
		<dc:creator>dc crowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>?</description>
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		<title>By: dc crowley</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-1/#comment-2180546</link>
		<dc:creator>dc crowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get the feeling Russell is being honest with us or himself. Lack of passion, money, both? Whatever. Mobile internet faces lot&#039;s of challenges. Telcoç ripping off customers is an even bigger problem than the big technical problems that exist. Seriously... if Android could just &lt;em&gt;please&lt;/em&gt; rise to the challenge. The telco&#039;s though need to get &lt;a href=&quot;http://doncrowley.blogspot.com/2008/04/some-mobile-internet-predictions.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;very real about pricing&lt;/a&gt; or they will destroy their market just like the majors destroyed the music industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get the feeling Russell is being honest with us or himself. Lack of passion, money, both? Whatever. Mobile internet faces lot&#8217;s of challenges. Telcoç ripping off customers is an even bigger problem than the big technical problems that exist. Seriously&#8230; if Android could just <em>please</em> rise to the challenge. The telco&#8217;s though need to get <a href="http://doncrowley.blogspot.com/2008/04/some-mobile-internet-predictions.html" rel="nofollow">very real about pricing</a> or they will destroy their market just like the majors destroyed the music industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Yahoo Mobile</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-1/#comment-2180476</link>
		<dc:creator>Yahoo Mobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is Rusell to say that?  A guy who has never executed anything relevant in mobile, a blogger who claimend to be a visionary with no proof! What a loser!!!
Just because your silly &quot;mowser&quot;didn&#039;t work is not enought to say the mobile internet is dead. Find other ways to drive your anger from not been able to execute anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is Rusell to say that?  A guy who has never executed anything relevant in mobile, a blogger who claimend to be a visionary with no proof! What a loser!!!<br />
Just because your silly &#8220;mowser&#8221;didn&#8217;t work is not enought to say the mobile internet is dead. Find other ways to drive your anger from not been able to execute anything.</p>
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		<title>By: DP</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-1/#comment-2180467</link>
		<dc:creator>DP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the mistake most of the mobile startups make is that they apply the same business and ecosystem model from the desktop web to mobile web. Mobile web is NOT dead and continues to grow but unfortunately as a small startup, it is very difficult to generate a profit and stay in business. One of the previous commenters listed a number of startups “doing well” but we have to be reminded that none of them are actually making any significant money from mobile. Most of them are able to sustain themselves and fight to stay relevant from the investment they raised.

I am convinced that for the time being, there only 2 kinds of companies that’ll succeed in the mobile web space:
1. A big desktop web company who can cover the losses with rev from the desktop or
2. A startup that raises lots of money to cover their burn for the next 3 to 5 years.

There’s a lot of activity in this space but I do not believe that mobile web, in its current form, is in a state that can support lots of startups; especially those that depend on traffic. Therefore, I believe that it is the big companies that will first see some success from monetizing the mobile web. They will find that the mobile web will prove to be a business on its own or at least help their desktop business.

Only then will startups have a chance to thrive which is why they need to raise lots of money now. If their current business plan calls for generating enough traffic in the next 2 years to stay in business, might as well close shop early because I do not believe this will happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the mistake most of the mobile startups make is that they apply the same business and ecosystem model from the desktop web to mobile web. Mobile web is NOT dead and continues to grow but unfortunately as a small startup, it is very difficult to generate a profit and stay in business. One of the previous commenters listed a number of startups “doing well” but we have to be reminded that none of them are actually making any significant money from mobile. Most of them are able to sustain themselves and fight to stay relevant from the investment they raised.</p>
<p>I am convinced that for the time being, there only 2 kinds of companies that’ll succeed in the mobile web space:<br />
1. A big desktop web company who can cover the losses with rev from the desktop or<br />
2. A startup that raises lots of money to cover their burn for the next 3 to 5 years.</p>
<p>There’s a lot of activity in this space but I do not believe that mobile web, in its current form, is in a state that can support lots of startups; especially those that depend on traffic. Therefore, I believe that it is the big companies that will first see some success from monetizing the mobile web. They will find that the mobile web will prove to be a business on its own or at least help their desktop business.</p>
<p>Only then will startups have a chance to thrive which is why they need to raise lots of money now. If their current business plan calls for generating enough traffic in the next 2 years to stay in business, might as well close shop early because I do not believe this will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Yumio</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-1/#comment-2180353</link>
		<dc:creator>Yumio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree 100% with Michael on this issue. 

Now if the iPhone would just become Flash-enabled....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree 100% with Michael on this issue. </p>
<p>Now if the iPhone would just become Flash-enabled&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Chone</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-1/#comment-2180261</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Chone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree we are just at the beginning of mobile web, I still think that websites and applications would benefit a lot by optimizing their mobile access. For example, for a good mobile user experience, sites cannot have the same amount of ads and traditional browser mashup are definitely not really usable. 


I think that the biggest difference between a mobile device and a PC, is that one of them is (most of the time) one hand operated. 


BTW, TechCrunch does not look too bad on my Treo750 (somehow I do not get the ads, which is definitely good). Take a long time to load though, even on a 3G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree we are just at the beginning of mobile web, I still think that websites and applications would benefit a lot by optimizing their mobile access. For example, for a good mobile user experience, sites cannot have the same amount of ads and traditional browser mashup are definitely not really usable. </p>
<p>I think that the biggest difference between a mobile device and a PC, is that one of them is (most of the time) one hand operated. </p>
<p>BTW, TechCrunch does not look too bad on my Treo750 (somehow I do not get the ads, which is definitely good). Take a long time to load though, even on a 3G.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard&#8217;s blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/mowser-founder-says-mobile-web-is-dead-its-the-opposite/comment-page-1/#comment-2180212</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard&#8217;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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