April 15, 2008

Cloud File Services Springing Up Everywhere, But Where’s My GDrive?

Mark Hendrickson

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Two more startups have released services for storing, syncing, and sharing files in the cloud over the past week…but still no sign of Google’s GDrive.

Syncplicity launches today with the same value propositions as SugarSync, which we reviewed in March. Syncplicity can be used not only to automatically back up files from anywhere on your computer but to sync files between computers and share them with friends as well. Its most unique feature is the ability to sync your Microsoft Office documents with Google Docs, as DocSyncer does but both ways (DocSyncer only pushes files to Google).

The other startup is veteran Allmydata, which completely gutted and rebuilt its backup product with the quiet release of version 3.0 last week. The company has mostly abandoned its P2P roots, saving that technology for only server-to-server data transfers. Allmydata users now install a client (Mac or PC) that can be used to set up a virtual drive with unlimited storage for $5/computer. There’s not a whole lot in terms of sharing files with others since it’s primarily meant for personal backup, but a web interface for your files is provided for when you’re on the go.

The online storage space has become very crowded. In addition to the three companies mentioned above, we have also recently seen the launch of Dropbox and HP Upline. These join other startups such as Box.net and Xdrive that have been around for a while, plus the tepid efforts of Microsoft from last Fall.

Through all of this, we have yet to see any real movement from the one company with the clout to dominate and popularize online storage: Google. We’ve been waiting since 2006 for the so-called GDrive (alternatively known as “Platypus” or “My Stuff”) and as recently as this past November there were murmurings from the Wall Street Journal that it was coming in the subsequent months.

But it’s April and there’s still no sign of its arrival. When the WSJ wrote about Google’s plans to “store on its computers essentially all of the files they [consumers] might keep on their personal-computer hard drives”, it noted the possibility that “new developments could lead Google to shift tack or shelve plans for the storage offering in the coming months.”

It would be a shame if that has indeed happened. The coolest thing about Box.net is its OpenBox feature, which allows you to easily load your files from online storage into various web services like Picnik and Zoho. Other services like SugarSync and Syncplicity are also blurring the lines between your personally stored files and those stored on web services. If Google were to provide a “backup” system that essentially integrated your files with its cloud software, we would see an acceleration in the adoption of its software and browser-based applications in general. It would give a huge boost to the Web 2.0 movement, and assuming that Google provides the proper APIs, would create a whole range of new opportunities for startups.

Now that Google has released its App Engine, let’s hope it’s still serious about the utility-like components of cloud computing that can serve consumers directly.

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  1. Darren

    When you look at AppEngine you get a feel for how google works and I don’t think they work with storage like an amazon s3 so I am guessing they are not likely to be in this space for a while.

    It will happen and it will be indexed but you have to think its not as important because they cannot sell advertising over it and like Mark said its a crowded market.

  2. Peter Secor

    The Allmydata link above may be incorrect - the correct one is:

    http://www.allmydata.com

    Peter

  3. Mark Hendrickson

    @Darren - I wouldn’t assume they can’t find an innovative way to sell advertising over it, even if it’s not direct advertising. Google already mines email messages for contextual information. Imagine if they could read your entire file collection as well and learn about you that way.

  4. More Profitable than Justin.tv

    Google has enough info about me. Forget about GDrive.

  5. Darren

    @Mark, scary stuff, imagine that they went even further and inserted ads into your files….

  6. Jon Bischke

    Elephant Drive is one of the best players I’ve seen in this space. I agree that it seems inevitable that Google will enter the space. Biggest question will be whether they’ll do so organically or buy a company like Elephant Drive, Box.net, etc. to help accelerate things.

  7. Roman

    That would defenitly be great to have a GDrive that would integrate with other google services. I would defenitly use it. However, the problem is that since all my data will be in Google services I would still look for another option to store my data. Just in case someone stills one username and password frome. Even now, without the file system, people get paranoid in regards to what would happen if someone stole rheir Google account.

    So I would defenitly use the service due to the integration and will use another backup system to backup all of my Google services

  8. Asus

    They launch the Gdrive at the same time that they launch their online Google Operating System (GOS). My estimate: third quarter 09.

  9. Peter Secor

    Allmydata offers client-side encryption so that we will not have access to the content of your data. We also offer an open-source project for the those technically savvy users who want to build their own storage grid. http://allmydata.org

  10. chaka

    Mozy… for now.

  11. Michael

    Interesting post.

    First of all, a quick disclaimer: I work at one of the companies in the online data space, ElephantDrive.

    Second of all @Jon #6 - thanks for the support. We’re working on taking what we’ve got an making it even better.

    Thirdly: Will the poll of TechCrunch readers above will accurately reflect the opinions of any group other than the TechCrunch readership?

    I’m an avid consumer of TechCrunch, as I think it is a fantastic place to learn about breaking news. Consistent scoops and great information. That said, TechCrunch does not have nearly the same value (in my mind, anyway) as a predictor of product success. That said, I’m very curious to see if there is any analysis on TechCrunch’s (or any other major blog’s) track record in predicting successful businesses or products.

    Any ideas?

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  13. Leonard Chung

    Hi Mark,

    Just saw the article and wanted to clarify that while Syncplicity does synchronize with Google Docs as well, unlike most of the other players in this space, we’ve built our backend using open web services. Our client uses the exact same interfaces that any 3rd party could.

    Because of this, we synchronize with both Google Docs and Facebook Photos today and welcome folks who would like to integrate with us as well.

    Thanks,

    Leonard

  14. Emad

    SugarSync is giving away a MacBook air for trying their services http://www.thetechbrief.com/gi.....-giveaway/

  15. Wes

    Windows Live Skydrive all the way for me, does the job perfectly and now offers 5GB of space. When Microsoft integrate that with their Foldershare and SyncFolder tools it’s only going to get better.

  16. james

    Looks pretty nice to me. Painfully easy to use.

    Perhaps versioning and conflict control would be interesting? Any storage limits?

  17. Todd

    It would be interesting to see a post on the fate of the original online storage gang. From my armchair:

    AllMyData - mentioned above
    Box.net - mentioned above, recently closed a $6MM round
    eSnips - raised $5MM in a couple rounds, CEO decamped, on Deadpool watch
    Freepository - ?
    GoDaddy - not really an online storage play
    iStorage - not a startup, sub of iomega, acquired by EMC
    Mofile - ?
    Mozy - acquired by EMC for ~$76M
    Omnidrive - ?
    Openomy - ?
    Streamload - became MediaMax, seems to have fallen apart and become Nirvanix
    Strongspace - killed by ZFS bug
    Xdrive - not a startup, acquired by AOL, floating in space

    Can TC help fill in the holes?

  18. Nick

    In terms of cloud services Nirvanix is one of the best around, highly scalable,cost-effective, they are a big player in this space.

  19. Leonard Chung

    @James: Not sure if you were asking about Syncplicity, but yes, we do support both versioning and conflict management. And no, we do not impose any storage limits. Syncplicity is all-you-can-eat unlimited storage.

  20. Misk

    These sites are not really offering “unlimited” storage, you are limited by the size of your hard disk, as they only “backup” what’s on your computer. If you delete a file, it gets deleted from the backups as well.

  21. Steve

    Don’t forget Beinsync…it is more focused on groups of users or computers sharing files relatively dynamically than just an offsite archive that allows remote single user access.

  22. Eric

    I’m pretty happy with Jungledisk + Amazon S3, although it’s probably one of the more expensive solutions out there. But I like the flexibility and scalability of it, and it’s one of the few solutions that seems able to handle backing up my complete, 300+ GB digital photo archive.

    Whether I use Google’s offering would depend entirely on the feature set. If it offered a drag & drop for getting files into, out of, and syncing with Google Docs, I might use it.

  23. Peter Secor

    To Allmydata, “unlimited storage” means that you are only limited by the amount of data you have to transfer and your uplink speed.

    In addition to backup, we include a virtual drive on which you can store any files that you choose and they do not get deleted unless you expressly delete them. For backups, we do not delete the files from the backups that are already made, but keep them as part of the versioning history.

  24. Craig

    I’m not sure why we need another storage product when we already have Omnidrive - ‘Online Storage Perfection’!

    http://www.techcrunch.com/2005.....erfection/

    Jungledisk is working well for me. Not sure why the previous poster describes it as expensive, I thought it was very reasonable in comparison to the competition.

  25. Santos

    one solution is http://www.jungledisk.com , i’m surprised its not on this list. i worked with the founder. its a great solution!

  26. EditorX

    Interesting.

  27. Yoda

    Something in the air there is. Know you will before the release. Yes Hmmm…. Aries is the sign

  28. YDrive

    Certainly it’s in the making. Worth your wait… 8-)

  29. joey

    I dig how the demo on Dropbox uses the editing (x-ing out - haha) of an image of a ‘platypus’ as an example of how file changes are synched between the PC, MAC, and the Cloud. Oh the humor ….

  30. unkel

    so - over/under on time it takes for a napster-like app that runs within these huge online storage infrastructures to even further the ease of copying media files (legally/illegally) across many users? 6 months?

  31. Leonard Chung

    We’ve had a lot of requests to create a video to give a quick overview of some of the features with Syncplicity. It’s been a crazy day, but we finally got it out the door: http://www.syncplicity.com/Video/

    Enjoy!

    Leonard Chung

  32. StorageMemo

    Another day, another online storage service… a real exciting market!!! :-o

  33. Goorsha Billu

    The much anticipated GDrive is still no where to be seen. In the meantime, it is true that lost of file backup, sharing and syncing site are poping up every where. Thousands of online backup companies exist, from one guy operating in his apartment to fortune 500 companies (the recent entrant are HP and WellsFargo)

    I recently read on an article that said, “70-75% of all PC’s will be connected to online backup services with in the next decade”.

    Choosing the best online backup company will be very confusing and difficult. One website I find very helpful in making a decision to pick an online backup company is:

    BackupReview.info

    This site lists more than 400 online backup companies in its directory and ranks the top 25 on a monthly basis.

  34. Nitin

    Who needs GDrive?
    Try this:

    http://thinkezy.wordpress.com/.....e-g-drive/

  35. Scott

    When I went looking for a file sharing website to deliver files to my clients I found http://www.digitalbucket.net which I haven’t seen listed here. It’s been awesome. Easy interface and flexible sharing options. It’s made my life a lot easier.

  36. Dennis Lillee

    http://www.jungledisk.com FTW

  37. James

    I am based in the UK and use humyo as my online storage and is pretty good

  38. tobi

    I use a tool called SYNCING.NET that I found on http://www.syncing.net. It syncs files and all Outlook data. It works great and is the easiest tool I ever tried. You just need 5 clicks to set up a worldwide network.

  39. JoJ

    I use ifile.it lately, the interface is nice and user friendly, and looking at the alexa it and its mother site mihd.net are bigger than all of the services mentioned here and where around for few years now

  40. karl prosser

    syncplicity for me has proven to have the right balance in features and usability in this area. Its definately the replacement for me for foldershare and about everything else

  41. David Friend

    I am going to speculate that Google has figured out that storing all the data that their users have on their PCs is not as simple as it once sounded. I know that our users have on average over 20GB of data on their PCs, if you include photos and music. The fully loaded cost of a data center is roughly $.90 per GB per year when you include electricity, space, and other direct expenses. So if Google really delivered on their intentions, they would have to spend $18 for every Google customer who uses the service. Since Google has not been notably successful in selling subscription services to users, and since it is unlikely that they could get an advertiser to subsidize the data center costs, this idea may not be so appealing after all. If even 10 million Google customers took advantage of the service, it could cost them $180 million per year to support those users.

    David Friend, CEO
    Carbonite, Inc.