Everybody’s got an opinion, and if you can collect them together that can be worth quite a bit of money. Angie’s List, one of the largest sites for local service provider ratings, has received $35 million from Battery Ventures, bringing its total funding to $48M. Battery will now hold a minority stake in the company.
Angie’s List was founded in 1995, and provides users with customer reviews on a variety of services, including plumbers, roofers, and handymen. The site has over 600,000 members in the United States, and it soon plans to expand abroad. Users must pay a fee starting at $35 a year to access content, but free trials are granted for a year in cities that have been added to the site recently. According to comScore, its traffic has been flat, with only 214,000 unique visitors in February.
Angie’s List had previously received $13 million in funding, largely from Aquent and BV Capital. Battery Ventures manages almost $3 billion in capital. Competitors to Angie’s List include Yelp and Kudzu.
That’s quite a chunk of change for a craigslist/yelp clone.
wow…does that mean we will see more bad commercials?
$23M for a minority stake, must be a nice valuation!
what is with that goofy ass “magazine”
they should be penalized $23M for that thing
ebay bought 25% of CL for $48M .. that was a deal
If they can keep the craigslist wackos away, they should do well.
http://www.craigslist.com
This is another bizarre valuation based on very little revenue and even less reality. Add them to the deadpool and someone p-le-a-s-e pop that damn bubble!
Wow, impressive work to be able to raise that type of cash when their traffic is stagnant compared to others in the local search space. Not to mention the critical flaw in their business model. Having consumers pay to access local business reviews is a business model that will eventually get crushed by the free sites like Yelp.com, MojoPages.com and the 25 other local business review sites that don’t charge for access.
600,000 members? They’ve been advertising 500,000 paying members since 2006, that type of growth is just too slow to survive. Most local search sites are growing by millions of users every year, not 100,000. My guess is they’re probably loosing paying customers to the free sites and having to advertise like crazy to add enough new members to “appear” to be growing.
Actually, I think Angie’s List is doing it right compared to Yelp and Judy’s Book. They are getting a monthly subscription fee from their users and not having to worry about the high cost of local ad sales. They roll out to new markets gradually to allow expenses and revenue to be matched closely. The people paying are the ones getting the most value from the service. I know, kind of old school for tech crunch.
@Jenkins – I just wonder why do you think they have little revenue. Do you know for a fact or just guessing? As far as I know, Battery never invests in bubble like things. Why would you think it’s different this time?
Battery is an uncommonly saavy investor – I have been a sr. exec at a portfolio company of theirs and have to say Angie’s List would have been hard pressed to find better company, and at such a rich valuation to boot.
Battery doesn’t hire dummies – there’s got to be something more here than the above posters have covered, or the public at large knows about.
Hate to rain on this parade, but I’m a web entrepreneur and a passionate remodeler who routinely uses Craigs List to vet local service providers and contractors.. Have tried Angie’s list and frankly, it’s not nearly as useful to me as Craigs List… I don’t trust the review on Angies List (partly because there are so few)… What happened to good old fashion reference checking? Wow, maybe these guys know something I don’t know.
Angie’s List is a great company. It’s hilarious to find the free-tards on here complaining about the paywall. Get over it. Most good things provided by BUSINESSES are NOT free. Don’t come at me with the Google example. Good. Now show me good free housing? Oh doesn’t exist. What about good free education? Again, doesn’t exist. Either the government is paying or you are.
Grow a brain folks. Angie’s List is a real business.
Also, stop this idiotic “marginal cost is 0, so don’t charge me for content” b.s. Marginal cost does not equal cost. Cost does not equal price. Learn economics. You charge what people are willing to pay, not some percentage above your cost.
Useful tool, terrible web application. Needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. Terrible, terrible, terrible. Not terrible in the way Craigslist is terrible, terrible in the sense that it doesn’t work.
I remember seeing their ads in the newspaper all the time, seemed to fit well there. Every contractor (electrician, plumber, etc) I’ve ever dealt with don’t spend much time on the computer (they’re “in the field” all day), don’t have websites and rely on the yellow pages and local advertising. Will be interesting to see who is the first to really get the local service market right.
At $50-$75 annual subscriber fee Angie’s List is likely to be generating $30mm+ in annual revenue. If you believe the 10x revenue comps in for pure web plays, than a $300mm+ valuation would be possible. I would suspect they have more revenue than the other leading local review sites including Yelp the media darling.
As much as the “free-tard” comment made me laugh, I too don’t understand why consumers would pay $50+ a year just for reading other consumer’s reviews of local service providers. One would think that the long term availability of free content that is not only comparable but better will be a strong head wind for Angie’s List. I say better because free consumer reviews sites will eventually get more reviews from more consumers because their audience will be larger than 500,000 subscribers.
All that said, I can tell you as an entrepreneur who has raised $5 million dollars in the last 18 months to launch a consumer reviews start up, there is a siginicant amount of room in the space for innovation. At Viewpoints we have built an audience of 500,000+ uniques in our first six months since launch.
Angie’s List publication might be a bit dated, and the premium subscription product out of step with the current thinking, but you cannot argue with their success in generating real paying customers and in the process building a understated, credible and well known brand.
As is the case with many of web business models, it comes down to execution, innovation and staying power. With this latest raise, they certainly have staying power. We will all have to stay tuned to see if they can be innovative and execute in a constantly changing competitive enviornment.
I canceled my Anglie’sList subscription some time back after I realized that the contractors might be well-rated, but they were no more accessible than the ones in the phone book. Only a limited number of them were willing to work in my inner-ring suburb, and almost none of them had email or any web presence. That meant I was back to calling phones that weren’t necessarily answered, leaving messages that didn’t necessarily get returned — not even Web 1.0 service. Why would I pay AngiesList for that?
Contrast that with ServiceMagic, which I used before to get new central air, gutters and some interior ceilings replaced. It’s no contest.
I would love to get that much in investment money!
Hot Damn…. There is more than corn in Indiana. Congrats AL.
@16: I think your math is a bit off. They’re claiming 600K users and get $35/year in fees. That equates to $21MM in recurring annual revenue. The 10x revenue math puts their value at 210MM.
But, if you’re company is bringing in $21MM in revenue annually, and you’ve taken $13MM in investment thus far, taking $35MM in another round makes zero business sense. Unless, of course, those revenue numbers are potential, i.e. based on the 1-year free registrants, but not actually being collected.
They’re doing a good job in a tough business (local search), though. Got to give them credit for that.
LOL !
People never ever do any research ..
Angieslist is not a clone . The site is 13 years old for goodness sake .
They Bring in about 15M a year .
A lot of people think that making money on the internet is all about eyeballs . This is not true .
A busier site does not mean a more profitable one . If I open up a free restaurant beside one that charges for food I am sure I will have more customers .
Free sites are not necessarily competing with paid sites even though there can be an overlap of potential customers . There are those who dont mind paying and there are those who are just cheap .
Its like saying a Mercedes dealership will flop because a Hyunda dealer just opened next door .
Or
Saying that Brusters with their $5 ice cream will flop because you can buy a whole bucket of ice cream from Walmart for $5 .
Or ..Ok last one
Saying that no one will pay for 1st class when there is economy .
Ok …Last One
Its like saying no one will go to private school because there are public schools .
The list is endless . You just have to know your market .
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For those of us (me included) that don’t think it makes sense to pay a fee to look at reviews, there are always people who will pay when others won’t.
I met someone who loves Angie’s List. She had 1 kid, 2 nannies and also paid to watch her kids play in a public park. Oh to have money. If this is Angie’s demographic then there is more value possible around that subscription fee.
Maybe it’s what’s not there that Battery is after. Isn’t that what invested capital is for…
While it’s true that you can get free reviews on Yelp, there is something to be said for having a bar on reviews from other people paying $35 a year (instead of Yelpers who review the restaurant that hosted that last Yelp party).
What the heck do they need all that money for?
But anyways…I can see how the reviews could be much better because those in the system are paying to see the reviews so are probably offering better reviews themselves.
I’ve never had much need for sites like these myself as word of mouth between friends and family has been able to connect me with everything I need.
But you can’t argue with the success of Angie and Yelp.
I have a blog-network in the entertainment niche with 3 million page views a month and will totally sell it for much less than $23 million
So if they got $35m with approx. 350,000 unique visitors each month, that should mean that with my 4,000 unique visitors each month, I can get $400,000 – sweeet!!
Is it just me — or does Angies list feel very “Web 0.2″?
Their site is sparse. Their traffic is light. Their monthly .pdf magazine is quaint, I guess. Probably just a case of having selected a name close enough to Craig’s to get some halo effect.
There’s heat in this space no doubt. ReachLocal and Yelp are overvalued too. Blame it on the $14B in print yellow page advertising that sits waiting to be poached.
Kudzu.com is interesting. Not really “national” yet — only has critical mass in markets like Atlanta, Phoenix and San Diego. But when you look at its depth in those markets, it makes Angie look quite weak. And unlike Yelp, appears to have real advertisers — not just restaurant reviews.
But, in fairness, this is hard.
LOL !
People never ever do any research ..
Angieslist is not a clone . The site is 13 years old for goodness sake .
They Bring in about 15M a year .
A lot of people think that making money on the internet is all about eyeballs . This is not true .
A busier site does not mean a more profitable one . If I open up a free restaurant beside one that charges for food I am sure I will have more customers .
Free sites are not necessarily competing with paid sites even though there can be an overlap of potential customers . There are those who dont mind paying and there are those who are just cheap .
Its like saying a Mercedes dealership will flop because a Hyunda dealer just opened next door .
Or
Saying that Brusters with their $5 ice cream will flop because you can buy a whole bucket of ice cream from Walmart for $5 .
Or ..Ok last one
Saying that no one will pay for 1st class when there is economy .
Ok …Last One
Its like saying no one will go to private school because there are public schools .
The list is endless . You just have to know your market .
Note to Bisi.
It’s true that Angie’s list is alone in its model (i.e. not a clone) — could there be a reason? And do you really think it’s like Mercedes?
Whatever, obviously Battery does — given the luxury class price.
The review site are old school! Most good reviews are made by the listing companies own employees and the bad ones are from customers you could never make happy even if you gave the service away for free!
The next service directory site is http://www.mycityfaces.com no reviews, clean, simple and easy to navigate. Profiles are like “Electronic Billboards”
I don’t understand how you refer to Angie’s as “one of the largest sites for local service provider ratings.” By your own charts you show them with 200k UV’s. Then you show Kudzu & Yelp with numbers that dwarf that.
I did have a free membership to Angie’s a while back but let it lapse. I just didn’t see the value in reviews only. While Yelp’s nice for finding he scoop on bars, I prefer using Kudzu to find service people. The reviews help, but it’s the profiles that really let me narrow down my decision. I’ve found a variety of folks from a tile guy, to a great photographer for holiday photos, to a maid service I’ve kept for longer than my subscription to Angie’s list. For the maid service, the reviews were key, but for the other ones, it was the profile. – imagine hiring either of those without being able to preview photos!
I finally put a profile up for my design firm and have gotten business out of it. As a business, I’m happy to pay Kudzu, but as a consumer, I just don’t see paying Angie.
@ 25 Daniel – you couldn’t because your traffic probably has a crappy eCPM.
Skip – I don’t really know if its like a mercedes . I have not test driven yet, but I can tell you that Angieslist is in the business of making money . Angie and her people are not concerned about having the most uniques or pageviews or even the most reviews . They are only worried about paid subscribers . Obviously I would like to believe they are doing something right . If I had to pick a revenue model I would go with Angieslist because they are obviously making money and getting valued very high for equity purposes . Sometimes the most profitable companies are not the coolest and many times the coolest companies are not making any money . They are just cool .
the paid memberships protect against companies that ask all their friends, families and employees to make reports for their own company so they can get fake reviews up, and hide bad ones like on Service Magic and Kudzu. the paid memberships make the list more reliable for consumers -so they know even if a company did cheat – and get one up there -they’d have to spend a whole lot of money to fake the whole thing on Angie’s List.
The paid memberships ALSO protect companies from being sent off on wild goose chases by unscrupulous companies that create fake leads by pretending to be a customer on Service Magic and Craigs List, sending their competitors chasing the wrong ones. The paid memberships protect companies from their competitors making false reviews about each other on the list, to dog out another company to get rid of competition -those are things that go on all day long on those FREE lists, because all you have to do is create a new email on yahoo or something and sign up for those. No way they’d ever know.
As far as Angie’s List website – I think it’s very focused – a lot more focused than Service Magic, or Craigs list -etc. my gosh =-you can hire a hooker on Craigs list or a hit man! Angie’s List stays focused on what their member base has a need for -most of it looks like “home related” services, or things like Auto. When I looked at Kudzu, and Craigs List -they are way way way too cluttered with a lot of blah blah, ‘call now for your free trial and lose 10 lbs in 10 days kind of crap” – Angie’s List is clean – all related info – very easy to use if you have a membership. And it keeps out the riff raff that are looking to hire someone to kill their husbands!!!! hahahha
I hope Angie’s List disclosed to all of these investors they go on trial in early 2009 for libel, tortious interference, and conspiracy along with the Washington Post in a $75,000,000 lawsuit Case 2549B in the district of columbia. It’s good to know they will be able to pay the judgement that will rendered aganist them. You will see this case all over the media any day now.
I visited Angie’s List Website and did not subscribe. Then the e-mails to me started – and continue to come – trying to get me to sign up for $25 off the usual price, with better offers following after that.
I also searched Angie’s List on the Epinions.com site. They are MANY people unhappy after using Angie’s List for a variety of reasons, including trying to get your money back when you are not satisfied (as their say you can).
So beware!! Research first. And wait for a better offer after you first visit their site.
All the best !!!!