April 7, 2008

A Case Study In Personal Brand Destruction

Michael Arrington

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A minor blogosphere tussle has turned ugly. That’s nothing new; what’s surprising about this particular fight is that one of the participants, Shel Israel, is a well known author and consultant who makes a living advising others on how to avoid the very trap that he fell into himself. In the process Israel has done considerable damage to his personal brand.

Israel is a long time PR and strategy consultant, and co-authored the book Naked Conversations with blogger Robert Scoble. The book advises companies to embrace new media conversations with customers and potential customers.

Israel recently teamed with Scoble on a new project - video interviews for FastCompanyTV. On March 19 Israel uploaded the first four of twenty interviews he’s recorded.

Frankly, the interviews are pretty bad. One in particular, with Forrester senior analyst Jeremiah Owyang, is particularly poor. While Owyang goes on a long monologue, an uninterested Israel drinks coffee and holds a microphone that at times covers large parts of Owyang’s face.

Up to this point, there’s nothing much of note. Israel admits that video interviews are new to him, and he values the opportunity to learn and improve. He should have taken the comments and feedback, even the highly critical feedback, from the few people who watched the video as constructive criticism and moved on. Israel certainly would have advised his clients to do exactly that.

But he didn’t take his own advice, and that’s where the real trouble began.

Enter Loren Feldman, a video blogger and general trouble maker. Feldman seems to have a nose for thin skinned people and targets them on his video blog, 1938Media. When he saw Israel’s first show, he went on the attack, and shortly thereafter recorded a steady stream of faux interviews with a hand puppet as Israel. Feldman has now recorded ten or more videos using the puppets.

Israel became enraged at the puppet videos and went on the attack, writing multiple personal attacks against Feldman. He called Feldman a racist and a pornographer, and talked about hiring lawyers and private investigators, to go after Feldman. He also made other vaguely threatening remarks.

The blogosphere reacted, predictably taking sides with Feldman.

Israel responded, but it was too late. The damage was done.

I spoke with Israel today on the phone, and his comments reflected what he wrote in the blog post. He stressed that the video interviews would get better over time, and regretted his reaction to Feldman.

What should Israel have done? Absolutely nothing at best, or simply acknowledged the attention from Feldman as childish but somewhat funny. I know from experience that this is the best way to handle Feldman - over a year ago he also did a hit job on me, which I ignored. He moved on to other targets.

Feldman and Israel are both friends of mine today. I hosted the launch party for Naked Conversations at my house in February 2006, and Feldman is staying at my house this week (which is why I heard about this in the first place). I doubt that the two will ever be on friendly terms with each other, but I hope that something positive can come from this for Israel. He should start by reading his own book.

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  1. diystartupnews.com

    Handbags at dawn, he should of admited the videos were funny. You will always come off worse if it appears you have no sense of humour.

  2. luca

    The videos are funny, definitely. I asked Loren to learn italian and create a Luca-like puppet who speaks italenglish. Hey, it’s called satire, never heard about it? Popular people are the ideal target, and in the feet of Shel, I would be more than happy about that.

  3. thomas

    at least loren practices naked conversations in letting us know what your toilet looks like
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/l.....394733186/
    love it!

  4. Jimmy

    That front lawn in the puppet video looks an awful lot like the front lawn in a quiet street in Atherton…more specifically, your front lawn Mike.

  5. Jesus H Christ

    This post should be on valleywag because i could careless

  6. Jesus H Christ

    *care less

  7. Robert Scoble

    I think the puppet videos are hilarious.

    Keep them coming Loren!

    It certainly is motivating us to do better videos and bring our viewers more places that they’d never be able to get into on their own. For instance, in the next week you’ll get tours of Rackspace’s headquarters, get into IBM’s research labs where I move an Atom around, get into Austin City Lights where we meet the audio engineer that’s worked there for 30 years, among other things. Soon we’ll be hanging out with Ansel Adams’ family in Yosemite, too.

    I’m going for making videos that are the opposite of what Loren’s doing. Instead of entertaining people by doing puppetry we are bringing smart people doing smart things onto your screen. If that’s boring, so be it. I’d rather do that kind of stuff than do what Loren’s doing.

    This week I’m off to Israel to meet a ton of startups and other stuff, after that, more smart people ahead on fastcompany.tv.

    Hope to meet the puppets someday and thank them for making me laugh.

  8. Igor The Troll

    Ha, Ha! Blog-drama, better than Oprah Winfrey and Heraldo! Come on Michael, give us more of this Flame War!

    We love this brawling. Let’a bring these guys to TechCrunch and have them Duke it Out live and you can moderate the Match..:)

  9. alan p

    The only thing worse than being talked about….. (Oscar Wilde)

    Love the idea of analog avatars though, all this digital nonsense has gone too far - next step, Spitting Image ;-)

  10. Gregg

    This whole sordid puppet affair just got Slashdotted a few hours ago.

    http://yro.slashdot.org/articl.....07/0310240

    I get the feeling that Shel is gonna be none too happy about that.

  11. nozobinjob

    the most funny part of the story - that Michael forgets to say - is that Loren Feldman actually managed to purchase shelisrael.com domain name !!! and he posts there all his videos.

    kudos feldman, you’re a prank master !

  12. Robert Scoble

    nozobinjob did you know that lorenfeldman.tv is still available too? Did you know that michaelarrington.net is still available too? Go pay your $9 to Godaddy and you, too, can have some pranky fun!

  13. Ashley Morgan

    This is hilarious, albeit not for everyone involved. And anything that keeps those egos in check is a good thing.

  14. Rajiv Singh

    Israel? Feldman? Only David the King is missing.

  15. Hit Attır

    hehe very good :)

  16. jeremy wright

    Proper response? Have some fun with it ;-) when we got feldman-rolled we swung right back: http://www.bathcasting.com ;-)

  17. Erik

    Loren isn’t just being mean, his satire has a point;

    It’s easy to do bad video. Doing video well takes talent and/or training.

    It’s kind of appalling that an outfit like FastCompany could release such dreck under it’s brand when the problem could have been solved by hiring a few junior college grads who majored in video production.

  18. Dennis Bjørn Petersen

    It’s cool to see satire. It’s important to take it as some kind of compliment and it brings a lot of free advertising.

    I don’t see why so many people take it personally. Especially if you are still learning to be an interviewer, you’ll get some steam, shrug it off and move on ;)

  19. Suraj Luke

    Israel think’s its “cool” to be drinking coffee while interviewing someone and making that a part of the interview…That to me is an utter sign of disrespect! If I was the interviewee, I wouldn’t be pleased….

  20. Horacio

    c’mon! let’s watch a really good web tv with “no boring” interviews http://www.intruders.tv

  21. princess

    Ha ha,It’s funny.Thanks!

  22. Josh Saunders

    I knew there was a reason I don’t watch the FC videos… because I would rather watch talented journalists who know how to read and write with professional english grammar.

  23. yongfook

    this interview would have been acceptable as a podcast. watching it as a video is painful - that poor dude being forced to fellate the mic.

  24. Pascal Lehner

    hehe, it’s mostly the “experts” doing the stuff the worst way..

  25. Mr Video

    From Crunch Base:
    Shel describes himself as:

    “I have been involved with communications as a writer, consultant and video blogger for more than 30 years.”

    From the post:
    “Israel admits that video interviews are new to him, and he values the opportunity to learn and improve.”

    So, WHY exactly did FastCompany/Scoble hire/partner with him?

    ‘I wrote a book with the word “Conversations” in it - that qualifies me!’

    Let the lampooning continue!

  26. kevin

    I’d really want to hire the “experts” or “professionals” involved in all this, I feel like someone passed a mean note in English class and now someone might respond by writing something negative in someone else’s yearbook.

    It was entertaining to watch Shel run around every blog written about him responding to comments instead of taking in the valid criticism, the videos are bad.

  27. Michael B.

    Lol, the israelis need to chill, i love these puppet videos!

    -Check out my site for ways to make money online http://mikesmoneyclub.blogspot.com/

  28. SearcH◆ EngineS WEB

    There is no excuse to go after people the way he went after Isreal.

    There is something deeply wrong with bullies - however they try to rationalize hurting people

    People who gratuitously hurt others are vicious, there is no other way to put it

    Self hatred and low self esteem makes others do it

    You must also have a hard edge

    How can that person be your friend if they attack you - they will probably do it again when you are vulnerable

    Also, if Israel is your friend - how can you write such a patronizing piece

    HOW??????????? :-?

    How can humans NOT have any empathy for others - how do they thrive on causing pain??????????????????????????????????

  29. Mike L.

    Arrington: “Feldman and Israel are both friends of mine today”

    And naturally Loren is destroying Shel from my own bedroom!

  30. Jeremiah Owyang

    Wow, to my surprise, I surf through my feedreader to see my large picture on Techcrunch.

    I’m thinking about investing in eyelid stickers, so I’m never, ever caught off guard.

    http://gizmodo.com/356627/eyel.....sleep-at-w
    ork-if-your-coworkers-are-blind-idiots

    And for the record, Shel does a great job focusing on content, so if you’re bothered by the visuals, just listen in.

    And yeah, sorry for rambling on my monologue, I certainly can get carried away at times.

  31. Anon

    Seriously, who cares about this besides the two people involved? I would much rather read a Techcrunch post circa 2005 - “Hey, look at this cool new startup, and here’s what they do”.

    And if I was going to turn my blog into valleywag, I certainly wouldn’t throw my “friends” under the bus in public just to make a point about what an astute master of online marketing I am.

  32. bernie lomax

    Umm, is this TechCrunch or PerezHilton?

  33. amyloo

    alan p #9 re: “next step, spitting image” my friend Hillary Talbot started some work on that with this great Dave Winer sculpture — http://flickr.com/search/?q=wi.....6683%40N01 — which was to become the mask for a giant puppet for one web day, not sure what happened. no traction on 1web, i think.

  34. Chris Yeh

    An interesting question here is how the reactions on Twitter vs. the general blogosphere differed. Perhaps its just because I subscribe to Shel’s updates, but it seems like Twitter was more pro-Israel.

    It might be that Twitter, which provides information from friends, is not a valid early warning signal for individuals (rather than companies).

  35. paintless dent repair tools

    “elitest, pompess… thats america” - this guy can lick my nuts.

    - Who the hell does a video that says other videos sucks; in their bed?!

    - don’t feed the trolls mike

  36. :-)

    Just read some of Shel’s comments you linked to — Racist? Huh? Porn? Huh?

    I sure home he was drunk when he was Tweeting like that… It’d be his only excuse (a poor one, but at least something *some* of us could forgive).

    BTW — The only “racist” thing he could be referring to would be an anti-Semitic thing, right? Like that would be the only reason Feldman would be trashing Shel’s interviews. But isn’t “Feldman” just as Jewish sounding as “Shel Israel”?

  37. don't feed the trolls

    Feldman is a troll.

  38. matt

    “Feldman and Israel are both friends of mine today”

    It’s one thing to ignore the video the Feldman made towards you (Mike), but to then become friends? How can you be friends with someone that totally berates you.

  39. Kami Huyse

    And this was a major dustup? Why? Because you made it so?

    I read his response on his blog and Shel has been more than gracious. It isn’t too little too late.

  40. Hideomasa

    Only a journey through gender and time will alleviate thisu pain

  41. Ronald Lewis

    Feldman’s approach is interesting. It’s rather intriguing the interest he develops with his ‘brand’. I guess it’s the perfect nugget to continue the gossip machine.

  42. Connie Bensen

    Why people take joy in having fun at the expense of others is beyond me. Shel is a very helpful person. He’s not arrogant or presuming about his success. He’s earned it & it’s unfortunate that someone is having fun at his expense. (and yes I have a sense of humor too but it saddens me to see someone so humble being poked fun at).

    Jeremiah has great things to say - so I think if he’s on a roll - let him share his knowledge. Have you read the comments on the original post of the video? Jeremiah has a huge following & we LIKE every opportunity we get to hear him speak. Shel knows that & was letting Jeremiah do what he does best. I think it would’ve been very distracting if there had been many questions interrupting the train of thought.

  43. yeu2

    Hmmm…been reading with increasing interest that Video Blogging will be the next wave. That gave me pause, and a scratch of the head. Now I am all for reading an excellently worded blog. One that is funny and informative. But, after a quick look in the mirror, I asked myself, “Would anyone want to see my ugly mug online?”
    more after the jump:

    http://yeu2.com

  44. Job Board News

    Feldman is hilarious! Thanks for sharing:)

  45. EH

    I think the TechCrunch-iest part of this story is that you have Fast Company and Scoble and a purported media expert who are creating a show that has just terrible execution. Yes, terrible.

    As any mail-order MBA 2.0 will tell you, execution is everything. Why was this particular interview even okayed for publication? This brouhaha is a bit of an “Emperor Wears No Clothes” moment…it seems the critics and the consultants might not be the best people to the kinds of content that they talk about in their day jobs.

    In other words: I don’t know how to interview either, can I have a job?

    “Those who can, do. Those who can’t, teach. Those who can’t teach, teach gym. Those who can’t teach gym, blog.”

  46. Pandrogas

    I would have embraced the puppets and used them for an interview. We just never see enough puppets these days, you know? Plus, it would have simultaneously given Feldman the ego boost he wanted and let him know that he can’t actually hurt Shel.

    But that’s my take. I’m not quite as “Professional” as some people like to be.

  47. LaLaFuFu dotcom

    Well now, this gives me hope. When the whales at the top of the food chain are making mistakes like this. There’s hope for the little guys who are trying to be 10 times better in this space. You guys keep on screwing up, we’ll keep on watching ;). Meanwhile, still amazed the Comcast follows Michael Arrington’s tweets and dispatches repair crews to fix unreported trouble. epic, Epic, EPIC!!!!

  48. Thomas Hawk

    Loren Feldman is one of the more funnier people doing video on the web today. I think his stuff is great. Feldman is also vicious. Some might say too vicious. Rightly or wrongly though viciousness sells. Howard Stern climbed to the top of the radio charts not because he was a nice guy who asked boring questions. People like cut throat humor and Feldman delivers this. His humor is very New York.

    Loren can be brutal. I remember a video piece he once did on Nick Douglas where I think he described Douglas’ beard as public hair on a face or something like that. Very personal attacks. A lot of his video stuff that used to be online at Podtech seems to be offline now including that piece. I think Loren pisses a lot of people off. But sometimes that’s what good comedy does. Lenny Bruce pissed off a lot of people too.

    Shel could not be more opposite. Shel is a very very nice human being. He’s thoughtful and considerate and nice.

    It’s like oil and water between the two of them. Mix them together and turn up the heat and BLAM!

    The problem is that the more that Shel protests, the bigger the target on his back gets for Feldman. It’s a pickle of a situation to be in I’d say.

  49. Aaron Brazell

    @matt (#38) - because Mike knows how to take a joke and not hold grudges. Recent post in point, he talks about getting ugly, drawing blood, making fights big and bad, then putting it all aside and moving forward without grudges. It’s certainly worthy advice for everyone and Mike just practiced what he preaches. Life is too short to hold grudges.

  50. Steve Elbows

    @36 the racist thing is probably a reference to a previous controversy involving Loren. You can probably imagine that Lorens style applied to words about sensitive issues of race make for an explosive mixture, and this has happened a few times in the past. Whatever his motive, and whether you agree with specific things he says or not, we probably need people like Loren to talk about issues which others pussyfoot around. I guess the porn reference is to do with another controversy that I missed.

    I dont really blog but I have attacked people on mesageboards & comments a few times. At the time it always feels like there is some higher point worth shouting about, that transcends individuals and makes any pain they may endure justifiable. I have mixed feelings in hindsight, maybe there was no point and it was just bad karma and pointlessly cruel. I found it hard to resist criticising Scoble on a few occasions where he didnt really seem to want naked conversations after all, or at least not ugly ones. So Id certainly agree with an important part of this story, that people who can harness social media effectively, and consider themselves knowledgable on it, should really have a watertight strategy for dealing with the ugly side of humans on the web.

    Still on a certain level the whole web 2.0 thing is a bit silly really, and beyond the hype its unclear what is really there that will stand the test of time. So yes, more puppets please :)

  51. fake anonymous video Bloigger

    http://www.fastcompany.tv/vide.....ommunities

  52. sean percival

    I heard the puppet has even been spotted in Second Life:

    http://www.seanpercival.com/bl.....cond-life/

  53. Michael Arrogantington

    A literal sock puppet - definitely a web 2.0 moment

    Here is the link Arrogantington left out:
    http://www.fastcompany.tv/vide.....ommunities

  54. General Chaos

    Slow news day 4U narcissistic assholes, eh?

  55. :-)

    “@36 the racist thing is probably a reference to a previous controversy involving Loren. ”

    Aha! OK, thanks. :-)

    Wasn’t aware of the history there. Really seemed outta Left Field to me without the background.

  56. Chaitanya

    How many years of Scoble videos and yet they keep getting worse, adding Shel into the mix. I have seen High School Cable Access productions of better quality. Scoble is set to ruin another brand — Fastcompany should have looked into the guys resume, irrelevancy and destruction wherever he goes.

  57. Nick

    I like Shel and read the book him and Scoble wrote, and I do recommend it.

    Here is what we can learn from this situation. It is not suggested that doctors diagnose themselves. It is not suggested that lawyers represent themselves in court. Social media consulting during a crisis is best done subjectively, for others, not for ones self. Shel should have run his tactics through Scoble and Jeremiah first.

    So, to say that Shel does not take is own advice is true, but he was too close to the matter, and it was too personal. A subjective 3rd party could have helped his situation.

    I remember when Feldman made fun of Calacanis at the beginning of the fatblogging meme. Calacanis laughed it off, even commented in the video. He did handle it very well. And now that Arrington has become friends with Feldman, it show that he too has figured out how to defuse Feldman’s hostility.

    I heard Perez Hilton becomes friends with a lot of the very celebrities he makes fun of. Same thing here. Laugh if off and make friends with Feldman or choose to be pwned by him by crying about it.

  58. Chris

    Rebel Alliance 1, Tired Old Empire 0

  59. Ewaste

    Whats with the owel in the video?

  60. Wayne Smallman

    Embarrassingly and barely tolerable stupidity all round I think…

  61. Michael Krigsman

    Shel and Scoble are setting the agenda. Loren is following.

    Far easier to follow than to lead.

    Michael Krigsman
    http://blogs.zdnet.com/projectfailures

  62. Merredith

    You’re right, there are lessons to be learned here; and while I respect your loyalty to Loren, I’d take issue with your statement that many “predictably” took sides with Loren. Many of us saw the link to his site, checked it out and rolled our eyes, never to return. Shel may be learning a new medium, but that’s an easy target; there’s plenty of us who’d prefer it to yet another video that gives us puerile cheap shots instead of actual wit.

  63. lucy

    This makes for an interesting case study in Web 2.0 - and we wonder why large organisations are wary about joining the conversation?!!

    Shel and Robert Scoble have not helped the debate at all.

    It seems to me that Robert got Shel the role at Fast Company TV - based on good old fashioned friendship and networking, not based on whether he was any good as an interviewer.

    I agree with the points saying that to have a cup of coffee was disrespectful to the interviewee.

    The video is not helpful for Jeremiah either - I personally can’t stand the fellow as he is arrogant but I would not be impressed if that were my video.

    Of course Scoble and Owyang come flying to Shel’s defence here - how predictable.

    What is the most amazing thing is that Shel was so dumb not to own his own domain name - the number one thing you should do if you are an author or speaker never mind being someone who is meant to be an expert in social media.

    Secondly rule number 2 in social media is be careful of your digital footprint - his Twitter comments are there for anyone to read - I for one have taken screen shots and will use them as a case study of what not to do. He has certainly gone down in my estimation and i won’t be referring anyone to the book.

    Thirdly why on earth didn’t he do as he I am sure teaches others and direct the conversation back to his blog (so poorly branded it is untrue as it’s still got a Typepad domain name) not on the Twittersphere! Why on earth didn’t his so called friends the gurus of social media give him some decent advice.

    It’s good to see these big headed so called experts being knocked off their pedestals for once.

    I just wish they had not given more fuel to the fire for why companies should not engage online.

    An apology about that would be helpful to the rest of us who are trying hard to engage people in social media.