what if some body kills a christian what would be your
response

what if some one say something about christ and religion what would be your reponse

why the world just don’t give us the right to live
what if we are muslims

it’s all about attitude and attitude that the west is following helps extremists to mis guide and mis lead innocent muslims to be up against humanity

and let me tell you that the meaning of the word islam is peace so how can you consider that a religion whose meaning is peace could allow violence

islam forbids commiting sucide so how can it allow
a sucide bomber to kill innocent people

for all our christian brothers it is hard to believe but
you are being conveyed the wrong picture of islam

just one request find some unbised material on teachings of islam and you will get the correct picture

i have no rights to say something about any one’s religion or belief nor any one else should have the right to do so

may GOD Bless you all
live and let us live
and make this world a place of

I keep hearing that “Not all Muslims are terrorists”. I don’t hear that Muslims should not obey the Koran.

I don’t hear that the Koran does not demand violence.

If most Muslims are not actively violent against the non Muslim world, the logical conclusion is that they’re not good Muslims.

Now I don’t believe for a moment that Jesus ever existed historically, but I imagine I’m considered a Christian by folks in the mideast because of my name. My real name is obviously that of a person born in a Christian country.

I wonder if that’s the sort of “Muslim” they’re talking about when they say “most Muslims are peaceful”.

Are they talking about secular “Muslims” who simply do not take the Koran as being the divine word of their god?

The video actually shows the pages of the Koran and the Hadith demanding violence from Muslims, juxtaposed with Muslims obeying the verses.

It shows violence committed by Muslims on one side of the screen, and Islamic scripture on the other side of the screen demanding the acts you are watching.

It occurs to me that Muslim voices such as mmk080 above, are quick to condemn the video, but do not address its content.

Would a Muslim please offer some feasible interpretation of the Koran that does not demand the destruction of everything that isn’t Islam?

How can any Muslim not believe that Jews can and should be slaughtered when the scripture is very explicit?

Unless Fitna actually changed the wording of the Koran and used special effects to portray Muslims obeying the Koran, I have to conclude that Islam is a bane to civilization, and that it should be opposed by any and every right thinking person.

It seems that the only counter arguement to Fitna is that it insults Islam. It’s content seems accepted by Muslims as being factual.

I would love to be shown the error of Fitna.

I would love some feasibly logical way to think about Islam that doesn’t include Fitna.

(Disclaimer: I personally have never read the Quran, though I did enjoy having Mein Kamph in my bathroom for some light reading in college. The views expressed in the videos embedded below are not my own.) How do you tolerate……

Those who think moderates are not speaking out are blind and deaf, and are only looking to champion their own cause. Every type of Muslim is condeming this sort of action, but the few who don’t get all the attention.

Mohemmed spent 10 years in Mecca during the “peaceful” phase of Islamic development. During that time I think he managed to recruit only a handful of converts. As time went by he stirred up such bad feelings and negativity in Mecca (Pagan Mecca was a very religious tolerant place) that they expelled him finally. That should tell you something.. that a tolerant religious hub would expell him.

This is that point where Islam changed. Up until this point Mohemmed tried to pass off his religion as carrying on the legacy of Judiasm/Christianity, so you’ll see that the “peaceful” suras of the Koran came from Mohemmeds time in Mecca.

After the expulsion the retold Bible stories end.. the appeal for tolerance and coexistant end. In the desert Mohemmed and his few followers made an oath of allegence and Mohemmed commanded that the Muslims will now begin to fight for Allah and bring war upon those who reject his message.

This event is known as the Hijra

Part of the Sunnah in Islam is a sacrilized biography of Mohemmed. This bio, the Sira (the author is Ishaq), give context to the Koran and Hadith. Here is a description of this change in Islam:

Sira, p208: When God gave permission to his Apostle to fight, the second {oath of allegiance at} Aqaba contained conditions involving war which were not in the first act of fealty. Now they {Muhammad’s followers} bound themselves to war against all and sundry for God and his Apostle, while he promised them for faithful service thus the reward of paradise.

This commitment to violence is so intergral to islam that the Hijra is Islam’s Year 1. This why their calender is called AH. After Hijra.

The Year of the Islamic Calender is the number of years that Islam has been at war against the world.

Muslims must know this.. it’s silly to think they don’t know this.

What sort of mentality do you folks think this creates in their minds.. everytime they see the date they see just how long their war against the world has been and is a constant reminder of the obligation to engage in this war.

Donya’s contemptious attitude toward anyone who dares criticize this Religion of war is evidence of this irrationality.

and secondly, the movie is a silly documentry against Muslim and the holy book.

the violence is not the core of Islam, you stupit creature, it is human natur, it is individuals that we should blame for it.

have a look and read your message again, you should be ashamed of what you have wrote about Islam. all i can say is sham on you, you F****ken b***terd.

Because Moslems begin with the premise that every word of the Koran calling them to murder infidels was dictated by Allah, they believe that the Koran is perfect and cannot be changed. “Fitna” without comment, simply catches Moslems on film crying for the blood of infidels, cutting off infidel heads and teaching their children to hate infidels. We see the leaders of Iran calmly sitting while goon squads with hoods to cover their faces make the “sieg heil” salute. Islam is violent and encourages violence.

If the Koran were published today, it would be called hate literature.

Read the Koran for yourself and you will see. That is the point of the movie.

Moslems attacking the film are saying in effect, “Don’t say Islam is violent or I’ll kill you.”

The violence is the core of Islam.

any religion can be evil if it was made to movie by Geert Wilders

btw : some of islamic praying are taught by Jesus

http://www.yout...h?v=OxbYBIlT6VE

Another very good commentary on Militant Islam.

Anyone who tries to take our freedoms away will pay!

As far as the other points are concerned you can find similar nut jobs in the christian community who hold similar or more extremist views of the world.

If you are going to use blanket judgements about a community then take about 1.2 billion muslims, 2 billion christians & there u have it – Half the worlds population are crazed fanatics according to your logic.

People killing innocents civilians deserve to be condemned whatever their religion & whatever the declared purpose. A group of fanatics killing people for their believes & an army killing people in the name of ‘freedom’ are equally condemnable.

But again we must not lose perspective here. America is the one who has attacked & occupied Iraq & they have every right to resist the occupation through legitamate means which includes fighting the occupying forces.
If suppose Iraq had attacked & occupied America by claiming that it had weapons of mass destruction (which it has in abundance & ironically Iraq does not & did not have), would americans sit quietly and do nothing about it? And would you call anyone fighting Iraqis in that situation terrorists?

The fact is that all wars are for control of resources & one would be really stupid to believe that the Iraq War (or the greater conflict in middle east) is about anything other than Oil. Religion is just one of the tool used by the holders of power to make people fight for their purposes. If they can not use religion they use nationalism.

Here’s a cool link on the islamic debate:

http://smouch.net/lol/

To pass blanketh judgment on Islam and all Muslims is pretty silly, 1 out of every 5 people on this planet is a Muslim you know. Wouldn’t it make more sense to understand the religion, its sources, and history more in depth.

Muslims are not going anywhere, might as well develop a better understanding of them.

A good resource is 1-877-WHY-ISLAM or http://www.whyislam.org

Harry “what is this thing you call religion” Wang

“In today’s Iraq, women are being killed by militia groups for not conforming to strict Islamist ways.
Basra police chief Gen. Jalil Hannoon told reporters and Arab TV channels in December that at least 40 women had been killed during the previous five months in that city alone.
“We are sure there are many more victims whose families did not report their killing for fear of scandal,” Gen. Hannoon said.
The militias dominated by the Shi’ite Badr Organization and the Mahdi Army are leading imposition of strict Islamist rules.“

We must pray that nobody makes any film about that, some Muslims might be offended.