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		<title>By: Platform Pub &#187; Chris Pirillo Wants to Build an Open Source De-Geekified Install Profile on Drupal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Platform Pub &#187; Chris Pirillo Wants to Build an Open Source De-Geekified Install Profile on Drupal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: architecting for collaboration &#171; tm ~ creative</title>
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		<dc:creator>architecting for collaboration &#171; tm ~ creative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a project that will be built with the opensource Drupal framework. More on Pirillo’s vision for a socially relevant network well beyond the blog and what this software can do for your own [...]</description>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2215469</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Web Your Way Membership is an exclusive community allowed private access to a complete host of products and services for FREE. These FREE products and services range from media and entertainment to communications and dating. The Boloto Group created this uniquely personalized, private web-based Membership to provide a whole world of products and services for virtually everyone... for FREE.
The "Web Your Way"™</description>
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The &#8220;Web Your Way&#8221;™</p>
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		<title>By: Frame 609 &#187; Searching for right Web CMS - Standards Compliant, SEO Capable, Adaptable</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2186469</link>
		<dc:creator>Frame 609 &#187; Searching for right Web CMS - Standards Compliant, SEO Capable, Adaptable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wibble</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2176400</link>
		<dc:creator>Wibble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are we bothering with this guy?  If that's the best he can do at 'sincere', he needs more acting lessons.

Is this an early April fools joke? ... or another Borat?

I guess it's entrancing in the "OMG what is this bloke on about?" way but what did he actually say in 50 minutes?  I know he repeated several things, in amateur theatrical fashion, but were there any new ideas?

I guess he's doing a great job at self publicity and by the time this idea fades away, he'll be on to the next big thing, or the one after that or ...

Rather than want to punch him, I just began wondering if he would end by saying: "... and world peace."

I can't believe I wasted the time typing this.  Now who's the idiot?

Doh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are we bothering with this guy?  If that&#8217;s the best he can do at &#8217;sincere&#8217;, he needs more acting lessons.</p>
<p>Is this an early April fools joke? &#8230; or another Borat?</p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s entrancing in the &#8220;OMG what is this bloke on about?&#8221; way but what did he actually say in 50 minutes?  I know he repeated several things, in amateur theatrical fashion, but were there any new ideas?</p>
<p>I guess he&#8217;s doing a great job at self publicity and by the time this idea fades away, he&#8217;ll be on to the next big thing, or the one after that or &#8230;</p>
<p>Rather than want to punch him, I just began wondering if he would end by saying: &#8220;&#8230; and world peace.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe I wasted the time typing this.  Now who&#8217;s the idiot?</p>
<p>Doh.</p>
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		<title>By: tinamonod.ca &#187; Blog Archive &#187; architecting for collaboration</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2167697</link>
		<dc:creator>tinamonod.ca &#187; Blog Archive &#187; architecting for collaboration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a project that will be built with the opensource Drupal framework. More on Pirillo’s vision for a socially relevant network well beyond the blog and what this software can do for your own [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2166693</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pirillo is the P.T. Barnum of Tech (without the gift).   It's all about money to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pirillo is the P.T. Barnum of Tech (without the gift).   It&#8217;s all about money to him.</p>
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		<title>By: Saturday night links</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2165435</link>
		<dc:creator>Saturday night links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pirillo Starts Large Scale Community CMS Project is TechCrunch coverage of Chris Pirillo&#8217;s announcement of Gnomepal. I&#8217;m trying to think of a company where its content management system is a sustainable competitive advantage. I&#8217;ve been involved in the building (and rebuilding) of several, and it&#8217;s hard to imagine a scenario where you wouldn&#8217;t start with one of the open-source projects first. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pirillo Starts Large Scale Community CMS Project is TechCrunch coverage of Chris Pirillo&#8217;s announcement of Gnomepal. I&#8217;m trying to think of a company where its content management system is a sustainable competitive advantage. I&#8217;ve been involved in the building (and rebuilding) of several, and it&#8217;s hard to imagine a scenario where you wouldn&#8217;t start with one of the open-source projects first. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The long dark tunnel: light in the shadows</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2066030</link>
		<dc:creator>The long dark tunnel: light in the shadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it anywhere - needed is a template install with some stuff done.  May be coming: Via Glen Davies: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/  In summary: Chris Pirillo (LockerGnome) wants to produce decent installs of Drupal for non geeks, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it anywhere - needed is a template install with some stuff done.  May be coming: Via Glen Davies: <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2008.....s-project/</a>  In summary: Chris Pirillo (LockerGnome) wants to produce decent installs of Drupal for non geeks, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2060793</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to fight this guy.  He makes all geeks look bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to fight this guy.  He makes all geeks look bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2060562</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He could have saved everyone's time by compacting that 40 minute vid down to one announcement:

"We're going to do what DotNetNuke already does."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He could have saved everyone&#8217;s time by compacting that 40 minute vid down to one announcement:</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re going to do what DotNetNuke already does.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Edoardo Piccolotto</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2060450</link>
		<dc:creator>Edoardo Piccolotto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ave written an article about this idea almost one month ago... everything can be found on the website www.web2bm.com of course when I have sent the file to some people I want noticed probably because I hadn't enough visibility or money to invest. At least I can say that I hadn't a bad idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ave written an article about this idea almost one month ago&#8230; everything can be found on the website <a href="http://www.web2bm.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.web2bm.com</a> of course when I have sent the file to some people I want noticed probably because I hadn&#8217;t enough visibility or money to invest. At least I can say that I hadn&#8217;t a bad idea.</p>
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		<title>By: LA</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2059545</link>
		<dc:creator>LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who believes that the Drupal developers haven't already thought through these issues? Who believes that the lack of these features is an oversight, rather than an incredibly difficult task to pull off? Who believes these things will happen if we just ideate them properly? Who believes this is a purely altruistic effort that will never, even if it's accomplished, see the glow of a dollar or two? 

I got bridges ... lots of 'em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who believes that the Drupal developers haven&#8217;t already thought through these issues? Who believes that the lack of these features is an oversight, rather than an incredibly difficult task to pull off? Who believes these things will happen if we just ideate them properly? Who believes this is a purely altruistic effort that will never, even if it&#8217;s accomplished, see the glow of a dollar or two? </p>
<p>I got bridges &#8230; lots of &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8216;Large Scale Community CMS project&#8217; started, caveats explored &#171; Hans Across The Interwebs</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2059436</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8216;Large Scale Community CMS project&#8217; started, caveats explored &#171; Hans Across The Interwebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fan of the Open Source Web Site Management System called Drupal. On my TechCrunch feed I found an article about what he&#8217;s planning to do: What he’s looking to achieve is delivering a multi-faceted, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fan of the Open Source Web Site Management System called Drupal. On my TechCrunch feed I found an article about what he&#8217;s planning to do: What he’s looking to achieve is delivering a multi-faceted, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2058645</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People, just learn to code using php or ruby. It isn't so hard and when problems inevitably arise you dont have to spend weeks trying to fix it looking at code someone else wrote. Most of this modular stuff requires about a hundred lines of code which can be obtained from the net. As a sideproduct, you get to know how things really work.
The idea above is a noble one, but it has been done many times and the promised revolution always yields as a result just another compromise between performance, scalability, maintenance and expandability.
If you could build something complicated without touching the code, Zuckerberg would have used it to code Facebook.
Quess what? He didnt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People, just learn to code using php or ruby. It isn&#8217;t so hard and when problems inevitably arise you dont have to spend weeks trying to fix it looking at code someone else wrote. Most of this modular stuff requires about a hundred lines of code which can be obtained from the net. As a sideproduct, you get to know how things really work.<br />
The idea above is a noble one, but it has been done many times and the promised revolution always yields as a result just another compromise between performance, scalability, maintenance and expandability.<br />
If you could build something complicated without touching the code, Zuckerberg would have used it to code Facebook.<br />
Quess what? He didnt.</p>
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		<title>By: snarky bastard</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2058578</link>
		<dc:creator>snarky bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>still laughing from arrington's last comment...

there are good ideas here, but chris sounds like he got locked in the holodeck mid-clambake, and once the mushrooms kicked in, his idea finally clicked -- and suddenly, atom smashing (pun alert!) techniques could be applied to rss 2.0 on a meta-referencing, widgetized, paradigm-shifting community-driven platform -- so the lion and the lamb and the clingon and the romulan could finally go vegan in a blog atmosphere generator -- together.

at least that's what i got out of it.

has this guy ever been outside when it's sunny?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>still laughing from arrington&#8217;s last comment&#8230;</p>
<p>there are good ideas here, but chris sounds like he got locked in the holodeck mid-clambake, and once the mushrooms kicked in, his idea finally clicked &#8212; and suddenly, atom smashing (pun alert!) techniques could be applied to rss 2.0 on a meta-referencing, widgetized, paradigm-shifting community-driven platform &#8212; so the lion and the lamb and the clingon and the romulan could finally go vegan in a blog atmosphere generator &#8212; together.</p>
<p>at least that&#8217;s what i got out of it.</p>
<p>has this guy ever been outside when it&#8217;s sunny?</p>
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		<title>By: helluri</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2058293</link>
		<dc:creator>helluri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>congratulations chris, you just inspired a new batch of bullshit bingo (http://www.bullshitbingo.net/cards/bullshit/) cards that would be aimed at tech meetings..
i never thought techies would be this full of bs, or this much of a failure with ideas, so that they need to actually persuade the crowd for them.. but hey, you learn a new thing every day, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>congratulations chris, you just inspired a new batch of bullshit bingo (http://www.bullshitbingo.net/cards/bullshit/) cards that would be aimed at tech meetings..<br />
i never thought techies would be this full of bs, or this much of a failure with ideas, so that they need to actually persuade the crowd for them.. but hey, you learn a new thing every day, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Koss</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2057993</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Koss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 05:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris sent mail about this to the Seattle Drupal Users Group a couple of days ago. Since I'm just learning Drupal now, I can definitely see a need for an integrated installer.

Drupal is excellent in it's modularity. The problem is, the core installation does very little. I'm up to about 20 installed modules on StartPad.org, and it's still a very basic site.

For example, here's the list of modules I've had to install (and why):

acl - basic user access control
adminrole - helper to give an administrator role permissions
cck - define custom content types
cck_address - a custom mailing address field type
cck_field_perms - set field level permissions
cck_map - display google map field
contemplate - custom formatting of content types
content_access - access control by content type
diff - display revision differences (wiki style)
forum_access - access control for forums
globalredirect - redirect (301) to canonical url aliases
google_analytics - insert google analytics
image - image upload
imce - rich text image upload
link - url field type
path_redirect - enable url aliases
pathauto - auto-generate alias (slug text)
tinymce - rich text editor
token - utility dictionary for other modules
views - generate custom views and filters

There is really no reason that these are not packaged together as "core" - except you'd get some disagreement in the community about what to include (different rich editors, for example).

Drupal is an interesting start for a base. But I wonder why not start with Ruby/Rails/Radiant or Python/Django/Ellington. You've got to believe that PHP's days are numbered as a preferred platform choice. I can think of two reason FOR Drupal:

a) There's not a big community behind a single CMS based on those platforms.
b) This is more of a design/integration project, rather than a development project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris sent mail about this to the Seattle Drupal Users Group a couple of days ago. Since I&#8217;m just learning Drupal now, I can definitely see a need for an integrated installer.</p>
<p>Drupal is excellent in it&#8217;s modularity. The problem is, the core installation does very little. I&#8217;m up to about 20 installed modules on StartPad.org, and it&#8217;s still a very basic site.</p>
<p>For example, here&#8217;s the list of modules I&#8217;ve had to install (and why):</p>
<p>acl - basic user access control<br />
adminrole - helper to give an administrator role permissions<br />
cck - define custom content types<br />
cck_address - a custom mailing address field type<br />
cck_field_perms - set field level permissions<br />
cck_map - display google map field<br />
contemplate - custom formatting of content types<br />
content_access - access control by content type<br />
diff - display revision differences (wiki style)<br />
forum_access - access control for forums<br />
globalredirect - redirect (301) to canonical url aliases<br />
google_analytics - insert google analytics<br />
image - image upload<br />
imce - rich text image upload<br />
link - url field type<br />
path_redirect - enable url aliases<br />
pathauto - auto-generate alias (slug text)<br />
tinymce - rich text editor<br />
token - utility dictionary for other modules<br />
views - generate custom views and filters</p>
<p>There is really no reason that these are not packaged together as &#8220;core&#8221; - except you&#8217;d get some disagreement in the community about what to include (different rich editors, for example).</p>
<p>Drupal is an interesting start for a base. But I wonder why not start with Ruby/Rails/Radiant or Python/Django/Ellington. You&#8217;ve got to believe that PHP&#8217;s days are numbered as a preferred platform choice. I can think of two reason FOR Drupal:</p>
<p>a) There&#8217;s not a big community behind a single CMS based on those platforms.<br />
b) This is more of a design/integration project, rather than a development project.</p>
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		<title>By: Caligula</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2057604</link>
		<dc:creator>Caligula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 34: "Never heard of Chris Pirillo before this post, but, personally, he’s setting off all sorts of red flags."

And here's another. When he's not dreaming of The Future of Content Management Systems, he's signing his friends up to watch ads online and get paid for it:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/17/surprise-the-buxto-pyramid-scheme-is-a-fraud/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 34: &#8220;Never heard of Chris Pirillo before this post, but, personally, he’s setting off all sorts of red flags.&#8221;</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s another. When he&#8217;s not dreaming of The Future of Content Management Systems, he&#8217;s signing his friends up to watch ads online and get paid for it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/17/surprise-the-buxto-pyramid-scheme-is-a-fraud/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2008.....s-a-fraud/</a></p>
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		<title>By: old ecard guy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2057481</link>
		<dc:creator>old ecard guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The defined need is very real and would be wildly successful.

Unfortunately it's like saying "the US needs to get 50% of it's electricity from solar while being practical and affordable".   Uh... yea get right to work on that.

The fallacy here is the the installation and selection of components is the hardest problem.

The hard problem is allow upgrades and module changes over time that are not brittle and that are idiot proof.

If you look at the support forums for any CMS inevitably you see lots of questions about how this version broke that plug-in, etc.

This is possible to do, but it requires architectural and leadership changes, not repackaging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The defined need is very real and would be wildly successful.</p>
<p>Unfortunately it&#8217;s like saying &#8220;the US needs to get 50% of it&#8217;s electricity from solar while being practical and affordable&#8221;.   Uh&#8230; yea get right to work on that.</p>
<p>The fallacy here is the the installation and selection of components is the hardest problem.</p>
<p>The hard problem is allow upgrades and module changes over time that are not brittle and that are idiot proof.</p>
<p>If you look at the support forums for any CMS inevitably you see lots of questions about how this version broke that plug-in, etc.</p>
<p>This is possible to do, but it requires architectural and leadership changes, not repackaging.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2057424</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Not going to happen
2) Will never happen

Software Developer who decided to work on this project either:
1) Code Monkey
2) Insane
3) Doesn't know Software Engineering
4) Will quit after several months (presumably because he's just bored with anything)

Ask non-geeky user to use Drupal first before you moved on mmkay?

Even if you could simplify everything, what determines the word "Simple"?

By the time the project is completed, Web 2.0 is no more. Yet Another Chandler Project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Not going to happen<br />
2) Will never happen</p>
<p>Software Developer who decided to work on this project either:<br />
1) Code Monkey<br />
2) Insane<br />
3) Doesn&#8217;t know Software Engineering<br />
4) Will quit after several months (presumably because he&#8217;s just bored with anything)</p>
<p>Ask non-geeky user to use Drupal first before you moved on mmkay?</p>
<p>Even if you could simplify everything, what determines the word &#8220;Simple&#8221;?</p>
<p>By the time the project is completed, Web 2.0 is no more. Yet Another Chandler Project.</p>
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		<title>By: Kai</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2057392</link>
		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was gonna watch Seinfeld tonite but this guy made me laugh even harder :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was gonna watch Seinfeld tonite but this guy made me laugh even harder <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2057383</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drupal is already open source.  Building an open source project on top of an open source, and defining very similar goals for both projects, is kind of a stupid idea.

At the end of the day, creating modules that clone existing sites and features is not difficult to do.  However, creating them in a way that allows for flexibility, interoperability, and customization is incredibly difficult and will always require some degree of expertise.

In addition, I don't think this guy has any knowledge of software development or of building web applications.  He is just running his mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drupal is already open source.  Building an open source project on top of an open source, and defining very similar goals for both projects, is kind of a stupid idea.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, creating modules that clone existing sites and features is not difficult to do.  However, creating them in a way that allows for flexibility, interoperability, and customization is incredibly difficult and will always require some degree of expertise.</p>
<p>In addition, I don&#8217;t think this guy has any knowledge of software development or of building web applications.  He is just running his mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob D</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2057348</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is this guy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is this guy?</p>
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		<title>By: Len Fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/pirillo-starts-large-scale-community-cms-project/#comment-2057338</link>
		<dc:creator>Len Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noticed your mention of Crowd Fusion above. I tried to leave my name and e-mail for more information. It doesn't appear Crowd Fusion's feedback system/forms parser/etc. is working correctly because I kept receiving an error when I hit the submit button. Curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noticed your mention of Crowd Fusion above. I tried to leave my name and e-mail for more information. It doesn&#8217;t appear Crowd Fusion&#8217;s feedback system/forms parser/etc. is working correctly because I kept receiving an error when I hit the submit button. Curious.</p>
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