Comments on: For Chinese IM Portal Tencent, The Money Is In Micro-Transactions

By: coven

coven — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 05:28:33 +0000

QQ,is a shit compare baidu hi

By: 腾讯备受瞩目

腾讯备受瞩目 — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:12:17 +0000

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By: Benjamin

Benjamin — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:46:31 +0000

To Christoph: we tend to think comparisons bring perspective, and that culture is usually a “layer” on good ideas. Adaptation is certainly difficult, so it is usually better to adapt concepts than services themselves.
As for Cyworld’s failure in Europe, we actually commented about it some time ago:

:: Auf Wiedersehen! …au revoir, good bye, ciao, adios! | Cyworld closes in Europe ::
http://www.plus8star.com/?p=106

By: aw

aw — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:22:49 +0000

QQ is a monster in China.

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Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:38:36 +0000

[…] virtual goods mean if you are not paying attention to the Asian gaming/virtual world market (see Tencent’s latest numbers) and the mobile industry. Of course, your scope depends on your definition of virtual goods […]

By: Cat Chen

Cat Chen — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:11:10 +0000

Tencent QQ is popular among Chinese university students, because most of them don’t have a second choice.

Most universities in China only connect to CERTNET, which means China Education and Research Network. Accessing domestic IP via CERTNET is nearly free. I guess it’s around 10 yuan (less than 2 dollar) per month. But if you want to access foreign IP via CERTNET, it costs you much much more. So most students accessing the Internet via CERTNET just won’t choose foreign IMs.

Remember, there’s no Internet in China. There are just some huge WANs. Bandwidth between these WANs and the Internet is very limited.

By: Christoph

Christoph — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:35:59 +0000

@ Benjamin

Indeed a very interesting presentation.

However, a comparision of Asia and Europe / US won’t work as cultures are too different. The best example is that http://www.cyworld.de was closed, the site is no longer up and running according to
http://www.deutsche-startups.d...../#comments

The site never took off in Europe. Adapting a business model from Asia might be difficult.

Christoph
http://www.youzoomr.com

By: Leon

Leon — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:36:41 +0000

@24 How can you say it’s both ripped off MSN and say it looks like a product of the 90s?

By: Jackson

Jackson — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:00:57 +0000

Most of my contacts in China and Taiwan still use MSN Messenger—of course most of them are in the mid-to-late-20s so perhaps we’re the old crowd now?

On another note, I’m surprised they haven’t registered their internationalized domain name…

By: QQ is no good

QQ is no good — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:14:09 +0000

@ 18, 19
yes, I agree its a huge improvement and a huge ripped off of msn. but the new qq still inferior and look and feel like 1998. also you talk like you work at tencent…

By: Jason

Jason — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:34:18 +0000

Thanks Benjamin.

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By: Benjamin

Benjamin — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:22:54 +0000

We published a detailed research on Tencent/QQ covering its business models and strategy. You can get a free short version on our website.
We also made a comparison of FB with leading Asian SNS and — FB is not #1.
Presentations are on http://www.slideshare.net/plus8star/

By: Sze

Sze — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:18:04 +0000

@ Phil
I don’t know about Bistpass, but Tencent offers several ways to pay.
As mentioned by Chun, you can buy QQ Card (coupon) by convenient stores you can find everywhere.

You can also pay using your ATM card, your fixed line account, cellphone account, broadband connection account. You can even use certain SIM card recharge coupons to buy the so-called Q points.

By: shuaben

shuaben — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:59:02 +0000

Yes, this is the popularity in the teenager in china

By: There are more though on QQ’s revenue model | Silk Road To Dragon China

Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:53:13 +0000

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By: Alex

Alex — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:49:57 +0000

TM 2008 is superior software - superior to MSN, to pidgin, to just about every other IM client ive ever used - and there are no ads. The English version is also very good. TM2008 has built in screengrabs that are very useful, as well as the ability to search through your contacts. its got logging, video conferencing. connections are apperntly encrypted (according to my coworkers). its got group chat and lots of other great features. if only pidgin were as good, everyone would be happy.

As a side note. Many Chinese people use MSN and not QQ, and many use QQ and not MSN, and some use both. (I am not chinese, but i work in the software industry in china). I have an QQ, a MSN, a yahoo, and an AIM account and I use them all + IRC.

By: QQ is good

QQ is good — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:31:49 +0000

@11 : I guess you didn’t try the new QQ2008 or TM2008?

Both are much improved. Also it’s not true that the ‘upper class’ uses MSN. Many people just have two accounts and with the improvements Tencent is making to their newest versions of QQ and TM, I think Tencent will gain market share. Especially since they now even have a Mac version.

check this: http://im.qq.com/intl/en/tm/2008/

By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 中国のIMポータルTencentにとって「金は少額取引にある」

TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 中国のIMポータルTencentにとって「金は少額取引にある」 — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:02:55 +0000

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By: chinchan

chinchan — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:57:43 +0000

It is quite advance now in this new era. And this micro-transactions is better for the convenient of the people. But not all expect not all will adopt this kind of transaction but some will do. To make life easier.

By: Phil

Phil — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:38:49 +0000

Aren’t all the US-launched micropayment outfits deadpooled now? Bitpass for example. I guess there’s more to micro-buy in China than there is to micro-buy in the US.

By: Richard Chang

Richard Chang — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:29:11 +0000

Glad to see that Techcrunch finally has Tencent featured in a blog posting. It is always good for people here in the Silicon Valley to be able to look at the things from a fresh prosepective.

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:26:45 +0000

What means”Chinese Web surfers gladly pay for”??
什么东西翻译成英文这么别扭？

By: TheHumanity

TheHumanity — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:52:17 +0000

“The newer and more educated internet crowds in China uses msn messenger.”

Oh god, that will be the turning point for the demise of a once great empire.

By: hehehe

hehehe — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:46:59 +0000

micro transaction will fix imperialist Yankee dog. Just after we extinguish these pest Tibetans