Comments on: Comcast and BitTorrent Patch Things Up http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:05:18 -0800 hourly 1 By: Comcast and BitTorrent Patch Things Up | Disinformation http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-3006415 Comcast and BitTorrent Patch Things Up | Disinformation Sat, 26 Sep 2009 07:58:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-3006415 [...] GO TO FULL STORY [...] [...] GO TO FULL STORY [...]

]]> By: A Local Internet Service Provider Blocks Internet Traffic at Weikiat.NET http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2318875 A Local Internet Service Provider Blocks Internet Traffic at Weikiat.NET Thu, 22 May 2008 14:37:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2318875 [...] http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/ 1f84 [...] [...] http://www.tech...atch-things-up/ 1f84 [...]

]]> By: The Broadband Salad Bar « Digitalics http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2159896 The Broadband Salad Bar « Digitalics Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:16:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2159896 [...] first glance it seems a rather ham-handed attempt to mollify Comcast critics. The WSJ and others are reporting it as a fairly straight up development, if something of a backpedal by Comcast. But [...] [...] first glance it seems a rather ham-handed attempt to mollify Comcast critics. The WSJ and others are reporting it as a fairly straight up development, if something of a backpedal by Comcast. But [...]

]]> By: Yossi http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2064984 Yossi Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:04:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2064984 Still did not understand what arrangement the two reached. Did anyone ? Still did not understand what arrangement the two reached. Did anyone ?

]]> By: Public Knowledge http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2059241 Public Knowledge Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:50:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2059241 Whatever this deal means, it does not mean that Comcast is out of the throttling business. We at Public Knowledge are still pushing forward with our petition to the FCC to demand that Comcast abide by the FCC principles of network management. More information about our petition can be found at: http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/1485 Whatever this deal means, it does not mean that Comcast is out of the throttling business. We at Public Knowledge are still pushing forward with our petition to the FCC to demand that Comcast abide by the FCC principles of network management. More information about our petition can be found at:

http://www.publ...e.org/node/1485

]]> By: Paul http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056966 Paul Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:11:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056966 the photo shows illegal drug use going on, why? the photo shows illegal drug use going on, why?

]]> By: skidoo http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056880 skidoo Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:41:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056880 how about newsgroups ? how about newsgroups ?

]]> By: disinfo.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056834 disinfo.com Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:28:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056834 <strong>Comcast and BitTorrent Patch Things Up...</strong> Erick Schonfeld writes on TechCrunch (nice photo, Erick!):After a lot of criticism, threats of legislation, and lawsuits, Comcast has decided that maybe it is not such a good idea after all to block its customers from sharing peer-to-peer BitTorrent fi... Comcast and BitTorrent Patch Things Up…

Erick Schonfeld writes on TechCrunch (nice photo, Erick!):After a lot of criticism, threats of legislation, and lawsuits, Comcast has decided that maybe it is not such a good idea after all to block its customers from sharing peer-to-peer BitTorrent fi…

]]> By: Chris S. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056829 Chris S. Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:27:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056829 For those that don't know already, Comcast already works against more than just BitTorrent traffic so I don't see the big switch. The Sandvine technology they use prevents seeding and doesn't care whether it's BT or any other P2P--it blocks it. So I don't see this as news but more an acknowledgment of the status quo. For those that don’t know already, Comcast already works against more than just BitTorrent traffic so I don’t see the big switch. The Sandvine technology they use prevents seeding and doesn’t care whether it’s BT or any other P2P–it blocks it.

So I don’t see this as news but more an acknowledgment of the status quo.

]]> By: Zach Weisman http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056728 Zach Weisman Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:51:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056728 Focus on improving your f#*$ing network. Focus on improving your f#*$ing network.

]]> By: Jesus H Christ http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056723 Jesus H Christ Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:49:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056723 F@CK comcast, i'm sick of their sh!t. I've moved on to Fios and i'm never going back. F@CK comcast, i’m sick of their sh!t. I’ve moved on to Fios and i’m never going back.

]]> By: Andy http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056669 Andy Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:35:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056669 Great, now Comcast is going to go after my non comcast VoIP - skype. Great, now Comcast is going to go after my non comcast VoIP – skype.

]]> By: Blue Sunshine http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056667 Blue Sunshine Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:35:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056667 I still have yet to see any actual "improvement". As one of the previous commenter's said, when running bit torrent, browsing speeds screech to a halt. Also, I haven't seen a hint of anything concerning seeding. Verizon is looking better and better these days, even if they don't have FIOS in my area yet. http://www.miscgarbage.com I still have yet to see any actual “improvement”. As one of the previous commenter’s said, when running bit torrent, browsing speeds screech to a halt. Also, I haven’t seen a hint of anything concerning seeding. Verizon is looking better and better these days, even if they don’t have FIOS in my area yet.

http://www.miscgarbage.com

]]> By: EH http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056633 EH Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:18:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056633 Note that this is actually Comcast vs. "BitTorrent the closed-source bittorrent company," not bittorrent the protocol. Look for Bram to implement some kind of key that unlocks Comcast's congestion control rather than Comcast opening everything up with transparently disclosed limits. This is a face-saving PR move by Comcast hoping people (FCC) get the protocol confused with the company of the same name. Likely Comcast is backing this up with lobbyists at the FCC to get their investigation called off. Note that this is actually Comcast vs. “BitTorrent the closed-source bittorrent company,” not bittorrent the protocol. Look for Bram to implement some kind of key that unlocks Comcast’s congestion control rather than Comcast opening everything up with transparently disclosed limits.

This is a face-saving PR move by Comcast hoping people (FCC) get the protocol confused with the company of the same name. Likely Comcast is backing this up with lobbyists at the FCC to get their investigation called off.

]]> By: Mark Maunder http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056611 Mark Maunder Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:10:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056611 I'm intrigued by the briefcase under the makeshift cocaine snorting table in the photo. I’m intrigued by the briefcase under the makeshift cocaine snorting table in the photo.

]]> By: Prashant http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056593 Prashant Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:59:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056593 i wonder what Mark Cuban would say on this ;) i wonder what Mark Cuban would say on this ;)

]]> By: BPL http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056546 BPL Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:42:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056546 Bring it on! Just commented on the photo, i don't think it is quite TC style.. a new style huh? Bring it on! Just commented on the photo, i don’t think it is quite TC style.. a new style huh?

]]> By: addam http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056436 addam Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:05:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056436 I don't understand why was Comcast trying to be the net cop in the first place. The users are paying their bills, why to screw them. If they started to analyze the traffic, wouldn't it be easier to transfer p2p traffic as low priority? Sure, it isn't the best solution, the network neutrality enthusiasts would be still upset because of the packet discrimination, and heavy p2p users would be upset because of the bittorrent slowdown, but QOS isn't that bad for net neutrality as traffic blocking. I don’t understand why was Comcast trying to be the net cop in the first place. The users are paying their bills, why to screw them. If they started to analyze the traffic, wouldn’t it be easier to transfer p2p traffic as low priority? Sure, it isn’t the best solution, the network neutrality enthusiasts would be still upset because of the packet discrimination, and heavy p2p users would be upset because of the bittorrent slowdown, but QOS isn’t that bad for net neutrality as traffic blocking.

]]> By: open for business http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056399 open for business Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:49:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056399 Sweet! Rock On! I am going back in time! Sweet! Rock On!

I am going back in time!

]]> By: pcnerd37 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056375 pcnerd37 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:40:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056375 As of this morning, the filtering was still going on. I was unable to browse the net when I was running my torrents because they took my browsing speeds down to that of dialup. Until I actually see an improvement, I will stick with my slogan, "SCREW COMCAST!" As of this morning, the filtering was still going on. I was unable to browse the net when I was running my torrents because they took my browsing speeds down to that of dialup. Until I actually see an improvement, I will stick with my slogan, “SCREW COMCAST!”

]]> By: Kevin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056360 Kevin Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:36:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056360 I'm not too terribly excited about this announcement mostly because I don't think it will matter too much. I was recently switched from Insight to Comcast (Comcast took over this area) and have noticed major slowdowns. I regularly shop at AmieStreet and have noticed a considerable slow-down in my download speeds since being switched (1000+ kb/s with Insight, but with Comcast I am lucky to get 300 kb/s). When they promise to open up all the "pipes" nice and wide, THEN I will be excited. Until then I greet this announcement with a great big "meh". I’m not too terribly excited about this announcement mostly because I don’t think it will matter too much. I was recently switched from Insight to Comcast (Comcast took over this area) and have noticed major slowdowns. I regularly shop at AmieStreet and have noticed a considerable slow-down in my download speeds since being switched (1000+ kb/s with Insight, but with Comcast I am lucky to get 300 kb/s). When they promise to open up all the “pipes” nice and wide, THEN I will be excited. Until then I greet this announcement with a great big “meh”.

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056340 Chris Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:31:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056340 "Anyone run a business selling digital products? Our products get distributed through BitTorrent so quickly…we’re working on ways to protect them better now…" We used to sell retail software. It was pirated all the time. I used to google cracks for our own products, and sign up anonymously to serialz forums in order to tell people the download had some type of virus in it, though it most likely didn't. At a certain point, you have to stop. It's useless. People are going to steal. Especially Canadians because their laws are made that way. If you're going to ask people to buy software, tell them you'll send them an encryption dongle through the mail with 2-3 days postage. They'll run out of USB ports eventually, but it will save you big if you sell digital goods worth more than 20$ per unit. I don't think i'll ever try to sell digital goods again, but if I did, I would pass on the overhead and mail them a dongle. “Anyone run a business selling digital products? Our products get distributed through BitTorrent so quickly…we’re working on ways to protect them better now…”

We used to sell retail software. It was pirated all the time. I used to google cracks for our own products, and sign up anonymously to serialz forums in order to tell people the download had some type of virus in it, though it most likely didn’t.
At a certain point, you have to stop. It’s useless. People are going to steal. Especially Canadians because their laws are made that way.

If you’re going to ask people to buy software, tell them you’ll send them an encryption dongle through the mail with 2-3 days postage. They’ll run out of USB ports eventually, but it will save you big if you sell digital goods worth more than 20$ per unit.
I don’t think i’ll ever try to sell digital goods again, but if I did, I would pass on the overhead and mail them a dongle.

]]> By: anon-guy http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056338 anon-guy Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:31:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056338 "Comcast will now focus more broadly on any application or source of traffic that stresses its network" WTF? Was it not mentioned that BitTorrent accounts for 50% of all internet traffic. I'm confused or are they being hypocrites? What programs/services are next then? DAMN! “Comcast will now focus more broadly on any application or source of traffic that stresses its network”

WTF? Was it not mentioned that BitTorrent accounts for 50% of all internet traffic. I’m confused or are they being hypocrites?

What programs/services are next then? DAMN!

]]> By: Mystery CEO http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056294 Mystery CEO Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:17:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056294 Anyone run a business selling digital products? Our products get distributed through BitTorrent so quickly...we're working on ways to protect them better now... Mystery CEO Anyone run a business selling digital products? Our products get distributed through BitTorrent so quickly…we’re working on ways to protect them better now…

Mystery CEO

]]> By: Rich Miller http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2056292 Rich Miller Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:17:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/comcast-and-bittorrent-patch-things-up/#comment-2056292 The new architecture from the Comcast/BitTorrent effort will be of great interest to content delivery networks (CDNs) who have been sorting out the best way that P2P can be used to assist in delivery of large files. Yesterday a CDN called Velocix announced a <a href="http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2008/Mar/26/velocix_launches_live_streaming_p2p_cdn.html" rel="nofollow">hybrid P2P streaming media service</a> combining traditional caching with P2P delivery for live events. Velocix used to be CacheLogic, and worked with BitTorrent to develop the Cache Discovery Protocol, which lets ISPs cache the most popular torrent files, and then seed the files from servers within their network, reducing network traffic. The new architecture from the Comcast/BitTorrent effort will be of great interest to content delivery networks (CDNs) who have been sorting out the best way that P2P can be used to assist in delivery of large files. Yesterday a CDN called Velocix announced a hybrid P2P streaming media service combining traditional caching with P2P delivery for live events. Velocix used to be CacheLogic, and worked with BitTorrent to develop the Cache Discovery Protocol, which lets ISPs cache the most popular torrent files, and then seed the files from servers within their network, reducing network traffic.

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