Comments on: Justin.TV’s Birthday Stats—57 Years Worth of Video and Counting.

By: Big T

Big T — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:11:27 +0000

ALL should go check out AVARENA.ORG and start using a much better video streaming codec than any of the ones mentioned above…FINALLY something that looks GOOD!!! you will have to register to get the upload ability and start your own channel

By: ventureblogalist

ventureblogalist — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:23:39 +0000

what % of monthly uniques are on site versus consumed elsewhere? I remember seeing a 20% number or maybe lower from youtube.

By: The Drama 2.0 Show

The Drama 2.0 Show — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:55:01 +0000

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By: James C.

James C. — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:37:41 +0000

WOW! Valleywag article has smoking gun!!!!

http://valleywag.com/371627/ju…..al-content

By: Kester

Kester — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:37:30 +0000

“Since when are monthly uniques represented as a summation of each day’s uniques?”

Actually when you buy traffic you are indeed buying x number of uniques per day. Guaranteed not to be repeat visitors within 30 days (stops bot traffic)

When your monthly uniques are a summation of your daily then it really does point the finger at buying vanity traffic to boost your graphs. That’s because those people never come back and the traffic sellers also like to feature that as a selling point. 99.9% of VC’s and fund managers are unable to spot tricks like this.

By: Lapper22

Lapper22 — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:48:02 +0000

Apparently Valleywag agrees:

http://valleywag.com/371627/ju.....al-content

Lifecasting site Justin.tv has come a long way since banning a broadcaster for one night of indecent exposure — that is, sexual acts. There may be less porn now, but other illegal content now graces Justin.tv’s servers. Right now I’m watching a stream of Fox Sports Net West’s broadcast of the San Diego Padres playing the Los Angeles Angels. Last night, more than 2,000 people watched the NBA’s Los Angeles Lakers play. Given Major League Baseball’s draconian online reporting rules — no more than seven photos from any game; audio and video clips can be a maximum of two minutes and can’t be streamed live — we doubt the MLB is happy about this.

You can read others’ “exclusive” posts with lots of fantastic-sounding statistics about how well Justin.tv is doing. Short version: the site has 57 years worth of video that no one will ever watch in its archives. Too bad those bloggers didn’t bother to count the hours of improperly streamed videos. We suspect investors and potential advertisers, not to mention MLB and NBA attorneys, would be a lot more interested in that figure.

By: The Hotel Problem

The Hotel Problem — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:31:29 +0000

@ erick

Let’s assume all 200 K daily uniques visit the site everyday. How many uniques does that make in a month? That’s right, the same 200 K.

Now, not all 200 K daily uniques visit the site everyday.

But there’s no way they do 6 million uniques/month either.

I can’t believe I’m having to explain this in TechCrunch.

By: MetricsMan

MetricsMan — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:11:52 +0000

Since when are monthly uniques represented as a summation of each day’s uniques?? This is simply misleading. Uniques over a period refers to absolutely unique visitors across that period. I certainly understand JTV pushing numbers like that, but don’t understand TechCrunch legitimizing them.

>@David, 19, yes JustinTv does claim 6M monthly uniques. the graph you see >reflect daily numbers. If you look at the blue line, they are running at about >200K uniques a day. Add those up and you get a monthly total of 6M.

By: Stephen K.

Stephen K. — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:50:42 +0000

Clearly they sent this out because they’re desperate to get funding or try to get an acquisition. Bunch of jokers. I bet they hit the DeadPool inside of 6 months. “Justin.tv joins the Techcrunch Dead Pool”

Homegrown CDN and 50 yrs. of stupid content

By: Lapper22

Lapper22 — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:27:31 +0000

@kester

Yes, it does appear they have been purchasing traffic.

When you pull demographic information from a variety of respectable sites, it appears 70% of their traffic originated this month from South America and the Persian Gulf.

By: Chandrab

Chandrab — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:16:33 +0000

It’s all about the revenue! Tell me how much revenue they made, not some web traffic statics.

By: RealityCrunch » Justin.TV Birthday Stats In Perspective

RealityCrunch » Justin.TV Birthday Stats In Perspective — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:07:05 +0000

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By: Frank Church

Frank Church — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:20:49 +0000

Anyone discussing revenue doesn’t seem to understand how investors are looking at this market. It is all about eyeballs (Ning, Geni, Glam, etc.). All this article tells me is that JTV is in the process of raising another round. So, that’s where the money comes from, VCs.

By: Kester

Kester — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:07:02 +0000

The trick here is to look at the alexa and compare traffic and page views. Also knock the smoothing right back to min. You’ll see lots of spiking, this is normally from buying traffic. Likewise with normal growth page views would remain fairly steady but these map directly with all the same curves as the rank. This is also indicative of traffic bought from traffic farms.
Major traffic source after US is Chile, Argentina, Morocco?? Even if it is true, you can’t monetize it.

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:06:09 +0000

I have never seen anything interesting on justin.tv. And who cares about Arabic soccer matches?

By: Cangelor - The China Angel Investor

Cangelor - The China Angel Investor — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:05:26 +0000

This may be a very typical stats for a Web 2.0 business. People just discuss everything except revenue and profit, which gives many young entrepreneurs a misconception that a Web 2.0 business does not need to consider revenue and profit. You can know how ridiculous it could be.

As you know promoting a free product can not be easier than ever so all the numbers can not make complete business sense because it is basically a game of burning money.

Can a Web 2.0 business become really profitable? Absolutely. Web 2.0 is just a set of some technologies that can be definitely used to improve business efficiency through which profit can be generated.

IMHO, if the mainstream media can invest some necessary resources to dig out some profitable Web 2.0 businesses that may be more inspiring and educating for young entrepreneurs, at least they can know what is a business and how to generate profit, which is very essential to build basic business sense.

By: Erick Schonfeld

Erick Schonfeld — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:54:07 +0000

@David, 19, yes JustinTv does claim 6M monthly uniques. the graph you see reflect daily numbers. If you look at the blue line, they are running at about 200K uniques a day. Add those up and you get a monthly total of 6M.

Those are their internal stats, which they showed me. comScore has much lower numbers (their monthly figures are about the same as the company’s daily figures). So it looks like comscore is off by more than it is normally, but it at least gives us a consistent data set with which to compare sites. Look at the trends, not the absolute numbers.

By: pdr tools

pdr tools — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:53:25 +0000

yeah where is the money amongst those numbers?

By: Video_Starlet

Video_Starlet — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:43:46 +0000

These “over claims” have been going on ever since the term HIT was created. To this day, rank amateurs will claim that their site has 17 gazillion hits when 5 people visited the page that had 17 gazillion divided by 5 items. The thing to look at is simplicity, ease of use, etc. Justin’s color scheme and format is enough to keep people from coming back. Note the repeat visitor graph. Probably an overstatement as well. Pump and dump.

By: jackmayhofferr

jackmayhofferr — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:42:35 +0000

54 years of not just shitty, but boring content
bring back Amanda

By: Miles Long

Miles Long — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:37:33 +0000

Problem with these sites: great platforms, shitty content.

The real opportunity lies with pro content producers to pimp all that free bandwidth!

By: George Bush

George Bush — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:29:55 +0000

@Michael

You’re only lying to yourself with those stats. I dare you to respond to this - Yes/No does Justin.tv get a massive amount of traffic because of illegal streams?

Don’t flaunt what you don’t got.

By: Jim Nguyen

Jim Nguyen — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:26:44 +0000

Someone asked about too many competitors, I think it’s good for this much-needed space. I watched the NCAA Tournament first round on Justin.TV and it was an alternative to CBS March Madness on Demand (especially when you had to wait to get in). Not everybody has cable TV and satellite and these sites offer a way to watch sports and other programming on your computer. I probably watch two-three sports events a week on my computer.

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:26:52 +0000

Hello All,

The Justin.tv traffic graph represents daily traffic for the past 1 year. Essentially, for everyday there are three data points, pageviews, uniques, and returning visitors.

As for the comscore data - we have no idea how that is tabulated.

Regards,

Michael

By: Fidel Cast

Fidel Cast — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:53:49 +0000

Could someone tell me what the hell is justin.tv and why anyone would care? Who watches that crap? More importantly, who pays for it?