Comments on: Bridging Desktop And Web Applications – A Look At Mozilla Prism

By: Moslem Rashidi

Moslem Rashidi — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:49:25 +0000

Matthew Gertner:
do you know an engine for expose dotNet desktop application to web?
I know a good one for java/swing desktop application: http://www.creamtec.com

By: Girish

Girish — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:28:41 +0000

Is it possible to create a complete client side application using HTML 5 (it will embed chat clients, stock ticker) + javascript, and then bundle is with underlines Firefox 3.5 engine, so that user can install it as a desktop app on linux, and then it runs in own window using firefox 3.5 engine. The app will store everything in localstorage – like urls, usernames etc, and will interact with any local server. If we can create a client side app and then create the desktop app with prism, can we package it for installation on some other syste,

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By: ScottLClark

ScottLClark — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:52:32 +0000

I never thought of “only working when connected to the internet” would ever be a problem for the future of web apps. That would officially be the first statement that made me doubt a future where all apps are web based and desk top applications become obsolete.

Interesting point…

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By: Jeremy Chone

Jeremy Chone — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:54:15 +0000

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By: Matthew Fabb

Matthew Fabb — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:38:48 +0000

Matthew Gertner: “The other big difference when compared to Prism is that AIR, in addition to web standards like HTML, CSS and JavaScript, supports Flash and another proprietary Adobe language called Flex.”

That is incorrect. Flex is not a proprietary language, but a framework that with it’s latest version 3, is now completely open sourced. However, Flex creates SWF’s that play in the proprietary Flash player (although the ActionScript Virtual Machine 2 that runs inside the Flash player is now open sourced). Also to further clarify it’s the Flex 3 SDK and compiler that are open sourced. The Flex IDE called Flex Builder is closed sourced (although runs off of the open source IDE Eclipse) and that is where Adobe makes their money. That said you could write ActionScript code (that is the ECMAScript language behind Flash and Flex) and MXML files and create SWF’s with the compiler without using Adobe’s Flex Builder.

Matthew Gertner: “My point about AIR is that, to get the full benefit of that platform, you need to use Flex/Flash. That would be a significant effort if your app is based on HTML/JS.”

Once again that is incorrect. All of the Adobe AIR API is available in HTML/JS without the need for Flash. Any gains made with making a Flash/Flex based application is no different from choosing Flash/Flex over a HTML/JavaScript applicaiton for the web. Or as one user pointed out, no different from creating a Flash/Flex based application for Prism, with Flash sending out commands to JavaScript to take advantage of the Prism hooks.

By: Nash

Nash — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:12:25 +0000

I can’t see how Prism, AIR and Google Gears can be compared with each other when it comes to a desktop-to-web (or web-to-desktop) application evolution.

Currently, Prism just allows you to create a desktop icon and separate memory for the process. Big deal! Its zilch functionality. Maybe when they add the ability to create local applications (JS, CSS, XHTML on the local store); via an installer; that will add value, currently it is largely pointless.

AIR is a whole runtime that can act like an SSB or it can be a whole offline application with no link with the online world. It can be used to create serious desktop applications with alot of APIs.

Google Gears is a very decent web-to-desktop approach. The ability to to have your apps also work offline is a major win. If a serious enough webapp demonstrates this (like an offline google doc), we might start to see a bigger challenge to desktop applications.