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		<title>By: perde</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2575636</link>
		<dc:creator>perde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good</description>
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		<title>By: Of Course You&#8217;ll Keep Developing For The iPhone</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2468311</link>
		<dc:creator>Of Course You&#8217;ll Keep Developing For The iPhone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 09:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] launching, but they&#8217;ve shown that they&#8217;ll compete with third party developers, give preferential treatment to revenue partners and won&#8217;t hesitate to suspend applications that that are annoying or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] launching, but they&#8217;ve shown that they&#8217;ll compete with third party developers, give preferential treatment to revenue partners and won&#8217;t hesitate to suspend applications that that are annoying or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SocialEyes Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Church and State in the land of OZ</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2431340</link>
		<dc:creator>SocialEyes Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Church and State in the land of OZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 3/19/08 - I suspect this is only the beginning&#8230;.?  More on this from TC&#8230;.. Is Facebook Playing Favorites With App Developers? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 3/19/08 &#8211; I suspect this is only the beginning&#8230;.?  More on this from TC&#8230;.. Is Facebook Playing Favorites With App Developers? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook Platform, One Year Later &#124; Tipstech.info</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2327291</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Platform, One Year Later &#124; Tipstech.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 06:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Facebook&#8217;s most unsettling move came during March Madness, when it introduced the &#8220;official&#8221; CBS Sportsline NCAA Basketball app. The app was given an unprecedented [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Facebook&#8217;s most unsettling move came during March Madness, when it introduced the &#8220;official&#8221; CBS Sportsline NCAA Basketball app. The app was given an unprecedented [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook Platform, One Year Later</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2323622</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Platform, One Year Later</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/#comment-2323622</guid>
		<description>[...] Facebook&#8217;s most unsettling move came during March Madness, when it introduced the &#8220;official&#8221; CBS Sportsline NCAA Basketball app. The app was given an unprecedented [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Facebook&#8217;s most unsettling move came during March Madness, when it introduced the &#8220;official&#8221; CBS Sportsline NCAA Basketball app. The app was given an unprecedented [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MySpace Moves To Limit Spammy Applications, Just Like Facebook Did</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2314059</link>
		<dc:creator>MySpace Moves To Limit Spammy Applications, Just Like Facebook Did</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 00:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Facebook has continued to refine the rules over time, but has also shown that they are willing to break their own rules when revenue is at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: www.ubraniaroxy.pl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SI Teams With MIT Blackjack Ace to Make Facebook Apps</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2299403</link>
		<dc:creator>www.ubraniaroxy.pl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SI Teams With MIT Blackjack Ace to Make Facebook Apps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/#comment-2299403</guid>
		<description>[...] Illustrated for the SI Facebook March Madness app, which was completely overshadowed by CBS&#8217;s controversial Facebook-sanctioned offering. The &#8220;Official&#8221; CBS application was pretty awful, but many [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Illustrated for the SI Facebook March Madness app, which was completely overshadowed by CBS&#8217;s controversial Facebook-sanctioned offering. The &#8220;Official&#8221; CBS application was pretty awful, but many [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook Revs Up New Features &#171; Next Steps in Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2054383</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Revs Up New Features &#171; Next Steps in Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has a problem with the latter, but the way I see it, it&#8217;s nothing new and totally expected. The developers [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CBS Sports Facing March Madness Backlash on Facebook. &#8220;This App Blows.&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2051287</link>
		<dc:creator>CBS Sports Facing March Madness Backlash on Facebook. &#8220;This App Blows.&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] happening over its NCAA basketball bracket application. Yes, this is the same application that was allowed to spam users&#8217; friends with more invites than other Facebook apps. The app—which lets you pick which basketball teams [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] happening over its NCAA basketball bracket application. Yes, this is the same application that was allowed to spam users&#8217; friends with more invites than other Facebook apps. The app—which lets you pick which basketball teams [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Terbaik.Net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CBS Sports Facing March Madness Backlash on Facebook. “This App Blows.”</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2049690</link>
		<dc:creator>Terbaik.Net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CBS Sports Facing March Madness Backlash on Facebook. “This App Blows.”</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/#comment-2049690</guid>
		<description>[...] happening over its NCAA basketball bracket application. Yes, this is the same application that was allowed to spam users&#8217; friends with more invites than other Facebook apps. The app—which lets you pick which basketball teams [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] happening over its NCAA basketball bracket application. Yes, this is the same application that was allowed to spam users&#8217; friends with more invites than other Facebook apps. The app—which lets you pick which basketball teams [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2047113</link>
		<dc:creator>Wal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Amit  

Unfortunately, you are not comparing apples with apples.   When an app is first released and is gaining lots of new users the DAU % will be higher than that of an app that has been in the directory for an extended period.  

If you wanted to compare them you would really need to pick a date towards the end of the season or several months in.  The other apps you talk about would have had similar rates in their early stages.  My own app was 50%-75% for the first week or so, but has settled to just less than 10%.  Also not all apps are &#039;daily use&#039; type apps, this doesn&#039;t make them bad or unuseful just not high on that one metric.


Also, &quot;spam-like applications&quot; - haven&#039;t been defined to the developer community by Facebook.  How many emails would you classify as spam that were sent by your friends who knowingly hit the send button (i.e. not a script virus)? This is one of the problems, invites are user generated, other things in the news-feed are application generated (such as notifications) - however in both cases applications have quota&#039;s (well below the 100 allocated to the app in question).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Amit  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, you are not comparing apples with apples.   When an app is first released and is gaining lots of new users the DAU % will be higher than that of an app that has been in the directory for an extended period.  </p>
<p>If you wanted to compare them you would really need to pick a date towards the end of the season or several months in.  The other apps you talk about would have had similar rates in their early stages.  My own app was 50%-75% for the first week or so, but has settled to just less than 10%.  Also not all apps are &#8216;daily use&#8217; type apps, this doesn&#8217;t make them bad or unuseful just not high on that one metric.</p>
<p>Also, &#8220;spam-like applications&#8221; &#8211; haven&#8217;t been defined to the developer community by Facebook.  How many emails would you classify as spam that were sent by your friends who knowingly hit the send button (i.e. not a script virus)? This is one of the problems, invites are user generated, other things in the news-feed are application generated (such as notifications) &#8211; however in both cases applications have quota&#8217;s (well below the 100 allocated to the app in question).</p>
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		<title>By: Wal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2047105</link>
		<dc:creator>Wal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gabe

Yes I agree there are a lot of crappy apps in the directory, but guess what Facebook approved them for the directory.   I personally wouldn&#039;t have approved many of them.

And sorry, but if its the mitigation factor, then you are saying my app is spammy which its not - its overall rating is 4 out of 5, it sends one notification to the feed when the user hits a certain page in the workflow (once), and doesn&#039;t get reported as spammy by the users when they send out invites, or blocked on notifications etc.  Yet my invites allocation was more than halved initally (with invites being directly related to user growth rate). 

As for &quot;righteous indignation and sense of entitlement come from&quot;, well I&#039;m actually not all that, but its my (and the other developer) time and effort that was put into develping the third-party apps, and you need to remember that out of the 19,500 apps only about 30 have been developed by Facebook themselves.  Facebook made a song and dance about spammyness, implemented a poor (IMHO) method of control and then we find an app with 100 invites - why wouldn&#039;t we be annoyed given that we&#039;ve had our own allocations cut to well below this number?  

Communication by Facebook with the developer community is poor to say the least.  I am an IT professional with more than 14yrs commercial experience and with Facebbok I am astounded by some of the things they&#039;ve done without any form of consultation with us.  

The attitude, that third-party developers should be honored to have access to the facebook platform will be its undoing in the longer term.  Facebook are no longer the only game in town, and whilst there is some first mover traction, don&#039;t expect a huge amount of loyalty.

As senatuskienlee  points out above your post Facebook really does need some &#039;gray hairs&#039; on the team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gabe</p>
<p>Yes I agree there are a lot of crappy apps in the directory, but guess what Facebook approved them for the directory.   I personally wouldn&#8217;t have approved many of them.</p>
<p>And sorry, but if its the mitigation factor, then you are saying my app is spammy which its not &#8211; its overall rating is 4 out of 5, it sends one notification to the feed when the user hits a certain page in the workflow (once), and doesn&#8217;t get reported as spammy by the users when they send out invites, or blocked on notifications etc.  Yet my invites allocation was more than halved initally (with invites being directly related to user growth rate). </p>
<p>As for &#8220;righteous indignation and sense of entitlement come from&#8221;, well I&#8217;m actually not all that, but its my (and the other developer) time and effort that was put into develping the third-party apps, and you need to remember that out of the 19,500 apps only about 30 have been developed by Facebook themselves.  Facebook made a song and dance about spammyness, implemented a poor (IMHO) method of control and then we find an app with 100 invites &#8211; why wouldn&#8217;t we be annoyed given that we&#8217;ve had our own allocations cut to well below this number?  </p>
<p>Communication by Facebook with the developer community is poor to say the least.  I am an IT professional with more than 14yrs commercial experience and with Facebbok I am astounded by some of the things they&#8217;ve done without any form of consultation with us.  </p>
<p>The attitude, that third-party developers should be honored to have access to the facebook platform will be its undoing in the longer term.  Facebook are no longer the only game in town, and whilst there is some first mover traction, don&#8217;t expect a huge amount of loyalty.</p>
<p>As senatuskienlee  points out above your post Facebook really does need some &#8216;gray hairs&#8217; on the team.</p>
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		<title>By: team ray</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2047064</link>
		<dc:creator>team ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what program language makes app&#039;s  java, php, flash this thread is making me think about becoming a developer?</description>
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		<title>By: Zuckerborg</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2046972</link>
		<dc:creator>Zuckerborg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is beginning of the end for facebook.</description>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2046957</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems perfectly valid to leave the playing field uneven for the simple reason that not all apps and application developers are the same.  Try following this line of reasoning...  If you look at the number of active users relative to the number of installs across the top 100 application developers you&#039;ll see that the median retention rate is somewhere around 2%.  I don&#039;t know what that means to you, but to me it looks suspiciously like spam-like behavior. By contrast, the CBS app currently sports a 42% retention rate.  If everything else exhibits spam like characteristics and the CBS app does not, wouldn&#039;t it be in everyone&#039;s best interest (except spammers of course) to leave the playing field uneven?  

v14gr4 emails get dumped straight into my spam folder by my email provider.  I&#039;m no more upset about that than I am about facebook limiting the invites available to spam-like applications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems perfectly valid to leave the playing field uneven for the simple reason that not all apps and application developers are the same.  Try following this line of reasoning&#8230;  If you look at the number of active users relative to the number of installs across the top 100 application developers you&#8217;ll see that the median retention rate is somewhere around 2%.  I don&#8217;t know what that means to you, but to me it looks suspiciously like spam-like behavior. By contrast, the CBS app currently sports a 42% retention rate.  If everything else exhibits spam like characteristics and the CBS app does not, wouldn&#8217;t it be in everyone&#8217;s best interest (except spammers of course) to leave the playing field uneven?  </p>
<p>v14gr4 emails get dumped straight into my spam folder by my email provider.  I&#8217;m no more upset about that than I am about facebook limiting the invites available to spam-like applications.</p>
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		<title>By: FB Developer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2046899</link>
		<dc:creator>FB Developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a mid-level app builder on facebook and I think facebook is totally mis-treating its developers.  They are constantly changing the rules of the game and provide crappy communication about it.   They are are about as arrogant as they could possibly be and their whole livelihood is about coming up with ways to punish what they personally perceive as bad for their users by going after the drug dealers (the developers) instead of the drug users (their customers.)   Apps don&#039;t spam people, people spam people, so instead of focusing on empowering users to control their communications with friends they focus on the developers.   The big developers all have the resources to quickly figure out the new cure of the week, while the smaller developers get hosed.   

Facebook is building up a lot of ill-will amongst the development community.  They need to put someone in charge and focus their efforts on empowering their users to control their user experience.  

As for me, the minute I get a real alternative to facebook, you can bet that I&#039;m going to be jumping ship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a mid-level app builder on facebook and I think facebook is totally mis-treating its developers.  They are constantly changing the rules of the game and provide crappy communication about it.   They are are about as arrogant as they could possibly be and their whole livelihood is about coming up with ways to punish what they personally perceive as bad for their users by going after the drug dealers (the developers) instead of the drug users (their customers.)   Apps don&#8217;t spam people, people spam people, so instead of focusing on empowering users to control their communications with friends they focus on the developers.   The big developers all have the resources to quickly figure out the new cure of the week, while the smaller developers get hosed.   </p>
<p>Facebook is building up a lot of ill-will amongst the development community.  They need to put someone in charge and focus their efforts on empowering their users to control their user experience.  </p>
<p>As for me, the minute I get a real alternative to facebook, you can bet that I&#8217;m going to be jumping ship.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Zeuthen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2046890</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Zeuthen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this gives app developers something to work towards.  Make a good app and maybe Facebook could buy it from you.

My worry is if Facebook doesn&#039;t want to buy your app, but make it themselves.  Change the name and remake it to call it theirs and out do yours with (and other tricks they might have) invites... that could be unfair.

I hope Facebook doesn&#039;t do anything unfair or unethical... but I really don&#039;t think they will because there is always other networks we can use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this gives app developers something to work towards.  Make a good app and maybe Facebook could buy it from you.</p>
<p>My worry is if Facebook doesn&#8217;t want to buy your app, but make it themselves.  Change the name and remake it to call it theirs and out do yours with (and other tricks they might have) invites&#8230; that could be unfair.</p>
<p>I hope Facebook doesn&#8217;t do anything unfair or unethical&#8230; but I really don&#8217;t think they will because there is always other networks we can use.</p>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2046791</link>
		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many developers have given facebook prime time ads on national television?  I only signed up for the bracket after hearing about it during the Big Ten championship game on CBS this past Sunday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many developers have given facebook prime time ads on national television?  I only signed up for the bracket after hearing about it during the Big Ten championship game on CBS this past Sunday.</p>
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		<title>By: FB user</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2046786</link>
		<dc:creator>FB user</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a facebook user I&#039;m sick of getting invites for dozens of worthless apps.  I applaud their efforts to minimize the garbage traffic.  As soon as I start seeing glitter showing up on FB pages I&#039;m out of there.

I see nothing wrong with what they are doing here.  Of course they are playing favorites because it&#039;s in their interests to increase revenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a facebook user I&#8217;m sick of getting invites for dozens of worthless apps.  I applaud their efforts to minimize the garbage traffic.  As soon as I start seeing glitter showing up on FB pages I&#8217;m out of there.</p>
<p>I see nothing wrong with what they are doing here.  Of course they are playing favorites because it&#8217;s in their interests to increase revenue.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2046775</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your comment about penny wise but pound foolish is really on the ball. I mean, to me one of the most interesting developments is that new profiles will kill RockYou and Slide&#039;s &quot;Wall&quot; products. Doesn&#039;t that chop their valuations in half? Actions like these have to make things even worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your comment about penny wise but pound foolish is really on the ball. I mean, to me one of the most interesting developments is that new profiles will kill RockYou and Slide&#8217;s &#8220;Wall&#8221; products. Doesn&#8217;t that chop their valuations in half? Actions like these have to make things even worse.</p>
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		<title>By: App developer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2046749</link>
		<dc:creator>App developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - You&#039;re absolutely right about how developers are thinking about the FB Platform.  And as a developer, it&#039;s hard to come out and say anything publicly against Facebook for fear of retribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; You&#8217;re absolutely right about how developers are thinking about the FB Platform.  And as a developer, it&#8217;s hard to come out and say anything publicly against Facebook for fear of retribution.</p>
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		<title>By: ask5</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2046706</link>
		<dc:creator>ask5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If facebook calls itself a social network then it should comply with the network neutrality principle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If facebook calls itself a social network then it should comply with the network neutrality principle.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2046703</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Wal:

&quot;if facebook really cared about their users and the spammyness that facebook claim they are trying to elivate, how can they justify giving an allocation of 100 to this application.&quot;

It&#039;s very simple.  They have a business relationship with this company.  They have a hands-on approach with the details of the app, or at least whatever assurances the company gives them.  They can monitor this app directly.  Obviously they don&#039;t have the resources to police 20,000 apps in this same way, the vast majority of which are half-baked gold-rush apps with very little purpose.  And honestly, the number of requests per day is not the root of spamminess... it&#039;s just a mitigation factor for apps that are already spammy.

It&#039;s understandable to be angry as a developer, but don&#039;t blow it out of proportion.  It&#039;s ridiculous to assume that now that F8 is out there, Facebook is never going to do anything outside the scope of the official API ever again.  I&#039;m not sure where this righteous indignation and sense of entitlement come from, and I&#039;m really curious about why Arrington is spinning this thing so sensationally.

The reality is, you still get a lot for free with F8.  If you built your business model on top of any free API then you probably shouldn&#039;t sleep well at night, but if the API is F8 then the sky isn&#039;t falling... yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wal:</p>
<p>&#8220;if facebook really cared about their users and the spammyness that facebook claim they are trying to elivate, how can they justify giving an allocation of 100 to this application.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very simple.  They have a business relationship with this company.  They have a hands-on approach with the details of the app, or at least whatever assurances the company gives them.  They can monitor this app directly.  Obviously they don&#8217;t have the resources to police 20,000 apps in this same way, the vast majority of which are half-baked gold-rush apps with very little purpose.  And honestly, the number of requests per day is not the root of spamminess&#8230; it&#8217;s just a mitigation factor for apps that are already spammy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s understandable to be angry as a developer, but don&#8217;t blow it out of proportion.  It&#8217;s ridiculous to assume that now that F8 is out there, Facebook is never going to do anything outside the scope of the official API ever again.  I&#8217;m not sure where this righteous indignation and sense of entitlement come from, and I&#8217;m really curious about why Arrington is spinning this thing so sensationally.</p>
<p>The reality is, you still get a lot for free with F8.  If you built your business model on top of any free API then you probably shouldn&#8217;t sleep well at night, but if the API is F8 then the sky isn&#8217;t falling&#8230; yet.</p>
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		<title>By: senatuskienlee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-2/#comment-2046545</link>
		<dc:creator>senatuskienlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know in reality, an OPEN API is not just referring not just to the OPENING of the technology platform, but an OPENING of the market, mindset, attitude for all with the skills and tenacity to come play and participate...
If facebook goes into exclusive arrangements with select corporates, then its backtracking to what Open Social is only starting to do! What a devolution!

You need some real grey haired folks in that organization, folks who&#039;ve had some experience making sure some things are not done like in the wild west.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know in reality, an OPEN API is not just referring not just to the OPENING of the technology platform, but an OPENING of the market, mindset, attitude for all with the skills and tenacity to come play and participate&#8230;<br />
If facebook goes into exclusive arrangements with select corporates, then its backtracking to what Open Social is only starting to do! What a devolution!</p>
<p>You need some real grey haired folks in that organization, folks who&#8217;ve had some experience making sure some things are not done like in the wild west.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve S</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/19/facebook-playing-favorites-with-app-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-2046524</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Developers could protest this kind of thing by getting together and suspending their apps for a day or longer. Facebook is earning their money with ads that are running alongside our app. If they really are doing this for &quot;business reasons&quot; then that would give them a message they couldn&#039;t ignore.

Strike! Strike! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Developers could protest this kind of thing by getting together and suspending their apps for a day or longer. Facebook is earning their money with ads that are running alongside our app. If they really are doing this for &#8220;business reasons&#8221; then that would give them a message they couldn&#8217;t ignore.</p>
<p>Strike! Strike! <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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