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		<title>By: Automattic Making Money From Other Projects &#171; Changing Way</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2223391</link>
		<dc:creator>Automattic Making Money From Other Projects &#171; Changing Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] how much money it makes from specific projects. But Duncan Riley at TechCrunch described Akismet as Automattic’s biggest money earner. Toni, Automattic&#8217;s CEO, was quick to counter what he described as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] how much money it makes from specific projects. But Duncan Riley at TechCrunch described Akismet as Automattic’s biggest money earner. Toni, Automattic&#8217;s CEO, was quick to counter what he described as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nikon D60</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2049051</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikon D60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one more reason why Matt and the rest of Automattic should invent in some ethics training. It’s a pity that Toni doesn’t see that. Considering that he sees very little, it doesn’t surprise me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one more reason why Matt and the rest of Automattic should invent in some ethics training. It’s a pity that Toni doesn’t see that. Considering that he sees very little, it doesn’t surprise me.</p>
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		<title>By: deuts</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2043174</link>
		<dc:creator>deuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if wordpress isn't open source, then I believe techcrunch is paying something for the use of wordpress software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if wordpress isn&#8217;t open source, then I believe techcrunch is paying something for the use of wordpress software.</p>
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		<title>By: drmike</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2037511</link>
		<dc:creator>drmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one more reason why Matt and the rest of Automattic should invent in some ethics training.  It's a pity that Toni doesn't see that.  Considering that he sees very little, it doesn't surprise me.

And would folks please stop calling Wordpress open source and stating that Matt develops open source software.  That's far from the truth.  One simply has to look at wp.com to see so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one more reason why Matt and the rest of Automattic should invent in some ethics training.  It&#8217;s a pity that Toni doesn&#8217;t see that.  Considering that he sees very little, it doesn&#8217;t surprise me.</p>
<p>And would folks please stop calling Wordpress open source and stating that Matt develops open source software.  That&#8217;s far from the truth.  One simply has to look at wp.com to see so.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2037123</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer MT. Wordpress is tooooo difficult to maintain.</description>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036686</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, you caught us with our pants down!  We were enabling Twitter interaction from the Habari Project site and had to upgrade curl, hence the dash of downtime.  Things should now be working smoothly once again.  

Please &lt;a href="http://habariproject.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;visit the Habari Project site&lt;/a&gt; to see &lt;a href="http://www.blogkazani.com/yazi/interview-with-habari-developers" rel="nofollow"&gt;how our project is different&lt;/a&gt; - hopefully you'll be pleasantly surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, you caught us with our pants down!  We were enabling Twitter interaction from the Habari Project site and had to upgrade curl, hence the dash of downtime.  Things should now be working smoothly once again.  </p>
<p>Please <a href="http://habariproject.org" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/habariproject.org');">visit the Habari Project site</a> to see <a href="http://www.blogkazani.com/yazi/interview-with-habari-developers" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.blogkazani.com');">how our project is different</a> - hopefully you&#8217;ll be pleasantly surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikolay Kolev</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036628</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikolay Kolev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares about Akismet when there's the superior http://defensio.com/ now?! Who cares about Gravatar when there's the superior http://www.openvatar.com/ now? I wish great success to the Habari project so that soon we can say - Who cares about WordPress when there's the superior http://www.habariproject.org/ now? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares about Akismet when there&#8217;s the superior <a href="http://defensio.com/" rel="nofollow">http://defensio.com/</a> now?! Who cares about Gravatar when there&#8217;s the superior <a href="http://www.openvatar.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.openvatar.com/</a> now? I wish great success to the Habari project so that soon we can say - Who cares about WordPress when there&#8217;s the superior <a href="http://www.habariproject.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.habariproject.org/</a> now? <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Jaquith</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036554</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Jaquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Akismet is not open source (the service, not the plugin) and benefits from the the failure of WordPress to combat comment spam natively.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You can keep copy/pasting this idea, but that doesn't make it true.  Note that there are two non-Automattic employees with commit access to WordPress (I am one of them).  We don't have the conflict of interest of which you're accusing Matt.  We're not facing pressure from Matt to keep anti-spam improvements out of WordPress.  That's a straw man.  If you haven't read &lt;a href="http://markjaquith.wordpress.com/2007/08/24/the-grey-area/" rel="nofollow"&gt;the response&lt;/a&gt; I wrote the last time you brought up this particular accusation, you should do so now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Akismet is not open source (the service, not the plugin) and benefits from the the failure of WordPress to combat comment spam natively.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can keep copy/pasting this idea, but that doesn&#8217;t make it true.  Note that there are two non-Automattic employees with commit access to WordPress (I am one of them).  We don&#8217;t have the conflict of interest of which you&#8217;re accusing Matt.  We&#8217;re not facing pressure from Matt to keep anti-spam improvements out of WordPress.  That&#8217;s a straw man.  If you haven&#8217;t read <a href="http://markjaquith.wordpress.com/2007/08/24/the-grey-area/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/markjaquith.wordpress.com');">the response</a> I wrote the last time you brought up this particular accusation, you should do so now.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036445</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.habariproject.org/  (still broken just forgot a slash)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.habariproject.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.habariproject.org/</a>  (still broken just forgot a slash)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036443</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also have to agree with Jorge's (38) last sentence which is echoed in other comments re: plugins, API, upgrades, etc.

I'm excited about 2.5 but not holding my breath... although I'm sure it's going to help attract new users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also have to agree with Jorge&#8217;s (38) last sentence which is echoed in other comments re: plugins, API, upgrades, etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m excited about 2.5 but not holding my breath&#8230; although I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s going to help attract new users.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036437</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never thought much of MT. I love WP, loved it since when it was still B2. Kubrick was largely responsible for WP's likability early on and my favorite part of WP is still K2... so I'm keeping an eye on Habari. That's where Heilmann, Chris Davis and friends have gone.

http:/www.habariproject.org/ *

*(unfortunately, you may have to visit some other time since there appears to be a bug with the site ;-)

WP's widgets, dashboard, UX and API are weaker than they should be this long after Automattic "getting serious" and Toni joining the team. I love WP to death, just saying...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never thought much of MT. I love WP, loved it since when it was still B2. Kubrick was largely responsible for WP&#8217;s likability early on and my favorite part of WP is still K2&#8230; so I&#8217;m keeping an eye on Habari. That&#8217;s where Heilmann, Chris Davis and friends have gone.</p>
<p>http:/www.habariproject.org/ *</p>
<p>*(unfortunately, you may have to visit some other time since there appears to be a bug with the site <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>WP&#8217;s widgets, dashboard, UX and API are weaker than they should be this long after Automattic &#8220;getting serious&#8221; and Toni joining the team. I love WP to death, just saying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036404</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was an avid WordPress user until I realized that every major update completely broke the APIs I used in my plugins. It became easier to just ignore the api's and hack through to the database, etc, directly. Which defeats the whole purpose of an API...

The infamous database connectivity problems are also very embarrassing. WordPress isn't designed to handle more than a handful of simultaneous visitors without massive tweaking or caching. It gets even worse when plugins get involved.

I also started getting pissed off at Matt whathisname. First, using wordpress.org to host spam pages to make money. Then stealing a guy's wordpress.com blog. Lying to users about his conflicts of interest. Actively interfering with alternative spam control methods.

I didn't like Movable Type, but I decided to give it a try. It's biggest plus was that Matt's name was not attached. My site now loads instantly...even in dynamic mode (which uses PHP). 

I miss some of the features of WP, but having seen what they're doing with WP 2.5, I'd be missing out on those features in WP anyway.

-- Pissed of former WP user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was an avid WordPress user until I realized that every major update completely broke the APIs I used in my plugins. It became easier to just ignore the api&#8217;s and hack through to the database, etc, directly. Which defeats the whole purpose of an API&#8230;</p>
<p>The infamous database connectivity problems are also very embarrassing. WordPress isn&#8217;t designed to handle more than a handful of simultaneous visitors without massive tweaking or caching. It gets even worse when plugins get involved.</p>
<p>I also started getting pissed off at Matt whathisname. First, using wordpress.org to host spam pages to make money. Then stealing a guy&#8217;s wordpress.com blog. Lying to users about his conflicts of interest. Actively interfering with alternative spam control methods.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t like Movable Type, but I decided to give it a try. It&#8217;s biggest plus was that Matt&#8217;s name was not attached. My site now loads instantly&#8230;even in dynamic mode (which uses PHP). </p>
<p>I miss some of the features of WP, but having seen what they&#8217;re doing with WP 2.5, I&#8217;d be missing out on those features in WP anyway.</p>
<p>&#8211; Pissed of former WP user.</p>
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		<title>By: i48998</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036368</link>
		<dc:creator>i48998</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VOX is just a terrible product, it lacks professionalism.  There is no comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VOX is just a terrible product, it lacks professionalism.  There is no comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Cavenger</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036288</link>
		<dc:creator>Cavenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nerd fight.</description>
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		<title>By: Nikolay Kolev</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036252</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikolay Kolev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt's the biggest reason people both love and hate WordPress. Recently, there are more reasons to hate, unfortunately. He's way immature and doesn't know much about morals. I don't like to sound like a broken record, but some of you may remember the polemic on TechCrunch about his buddy stealing my username and my WordPress subdomain and then Matt throwing threats and lies and changing the FAQ and terms overnight to cover things up and trying making us all look stupid (but thanks to http://www.archive.org and Google's cache he got caught). He needs to learn a lot about the right ways to do certain things and be like the big guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt&#8217;s the biggest reason people both love and hate WordPress. Recently, there are more reasons to hate, unfortunately. He&#8217;s way immature and doesn&#8217;t know much about morals. I don&#8217;t like to sound like a broken record, but some of you may remember the polemic on TechCrunch about his buddy stealing my username and my WordPress subdomain and then Matt throwing threats and lies and changing the FAQ and terms overnight to cover things up and trying making us all look stupid (but thanks to <a href="http://www.archive.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.archive.org</a> and Google&#8217;s cache he got caught). He needs to learn a lot about the right ways to do certain things and be like the big guys!</p>
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		<title>By: dave mcclure</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036145</link>
		<dc:creator>dave mcclure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually, i don't really mind the pissing match or the competitive attitude, as long as it results in product improvements for customers / users :)

fwiw, i use both companies' products (Wordpress, Typepad) fairly regularly, and while there are many great points about both, i also think everyone needs to continue to aim higher.... there is certainly more to be done for making the web publishing user experience simpler &#38; better.

to be honest, the overall pace of innovation that's occurred since the original &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_FrontPage" rel="nofollow"&gt;FrontPage product was introduced by Vermeer back in '95&lt;/a&gt; has been relatively slow.

so matt, anil, others... feel free to wack those nerf bats all over the place, if that's what it takes to keep you motivated :)

- dave mc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually, i don&#8217;t really mind the pissing match or the competitive attitude, as long as it results in product improvements for customers / users <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>fwiw, i use both companies&#8217; products (Wordpress, Typepad) fairly regularly, and while there are many great points about both, i also think everyone needs to continue to aim higher&#8230;. there is certainly more to be done for making the web publishing user experience simpler &amp; better.</p>
<p>to be honest, the overall pace of innovation that&#8217;s occurred since the original <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_FrontPage" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/en.wikipedia.org');">FrontPage product was introduced by Vermeer back in &#8216;95</a> has been relatively slow.</p>
<p>so matt, anil, others&#8230; feel free to wack those nerf bats all over the place, if that&#8217;s what it takes to keep you motivated <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>- dave mc</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Appnel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036081</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Appnel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cylence
"And, I thought I’d mention that Anil’s site is down as I type this comment."

No problems here. Have you tried it from multiple locations to be sure its not just something on your end.

"He should probably file a ticket with MT support, since he cannot fix that problem himself."

Come on, really? That sort of baseless comment doesn't support your argument it undermines it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cylence<br />
&#8220;And, I thought I’d mention that Anil’s site is down as I type this comment.&#8221;</p>
<p>No problems here. Have you tried it from multiple locations to be sure its not just something on your end.</p>
<p>&#8220;He should probably file a ticket with MT support, since he cannot fix that problem himself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Come on, really? That sort of baseless comment doesn&#8217;t support your argument it undermines it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anil</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036076</link>
		<dc:creator>Anil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cylence, I'm still disappointed you want to make this conversation about individuals and personalities instead of what helps bloggers as a whole. For the record: No, my site isn't down. But I certainly would be the first to admit I'm just a blogger, not an infrastructure expert, so it'd be entirely possible that I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous. :) Again, I'll point out that yesterday, we released the Fire Eagle plugin for MT. Today, we're working on making MT's performance and scalability even better. Anything that encourages that sort of focus on the part of all of us competing in the blogging is a good thing, and I hope we can move the conversation in that direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cylence, I&#8217;m still disappointed you want to make this conversation about individuals and personalities instead of what helps bloggers as a whole. For the record: No, my site isn&#8217;t down. But I certainly would be the first to admit I&#8217;m just a blogger, not an infrastructure expert, so it&#8217;d be entirely possible that I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Again, I&#8217;ll point out that yesterday, we released the Fire Eagle plugin for MT. Today, we&#8217;re working on making MT&#8217;s performance and scalability even better. Anything that encourages that sort of focus on the part of all of us competing in the blogging is a good thing, and I hope we can move the conversation in that direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Cylence</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036057</link>
		<dc:creator>Cylence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sort of sniping goes on between Anil and Matt all the time within  comment sections all over the blogosphere.  This is the first time Six Apart has mentioned WordPress inline on a search engine optimized, title-bait post on their own blog.

If I had nothing to do all day like Six Apart and write passive-aggressive comments and posts spun by marketing all over the blogosphere all day, instead of helping my business and community of users succeed everyday in a very real way, one would have to think about where all their clients and users are/have been going.  I think it's pretty obvious, don't you?

Six Apart does all this with 100+ employees, and Automattic, with less than 20 employees, have really been giving them a run for their money.   Bottom line is that Six Apart is pissed that such a small company can take down such a lumbering, grossly inefficient one.

And, I thought I'd mention that Anil's site is down as I type this comment.  

He should probably file a ticket with MT support, since he cannot fix that problem himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sort of sniping goes on between Anil and Matt all the time within  comment sections all over the blogosphere.  This is the first time Six Apart has mentioned WordPress inline on a search engine optimized, title-bait post on their own blog.</p>
<p>If I had nothing to do all day like Six Apart and write passive-aggressive comments and posts spun by marketing all over the blogosphere all day, instead of helping my business and community of users succeed everyday in a very real way, one would have to think about where all their clients and users are/have been going.  I think it&#8217;s pretty obvious, don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Six Apart does all this with 100+ employees, and Automattic, with less than 20 employees, have really been giving them a run for their money.   Bottom line is that Six Apart is pissed that such a small company can take down such a lumbering, grossly inefficient one.</p>
<p>And, I thought I&#8217;d mention that Anil&#8217;s site is down as I type this comment.  </p>
<p>He should probably file a ticket with MT support, since he cannot fix that problem himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Appnel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036043</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Appnel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andy (#18)

It's ironic that you compare Automattic business model to MySQL since that is the same business model Six Apart is following with MT and that Matt and Lloyd Budd criticize 6A as not being sincere or real open source. I'm not saying you have to like either business model, but Automattic lashing out is the pot calling the kettle black. 

@Rob Poitras

"WP and rails are still both 100% open source."

Is 100% of the code behind Wordpress.COM open source though? As an outsider to that community its been very confusing to me. I understand .org is 100% opens source and GPL'ed. I understand wordpress.com is a hosted services. I also understand that Automattic holds controls (legal right) to the "WordPress" name (as a trademark? Unclear on this also.) If I wanted to create a wordpress.com clone today -- could I do it? Is 100% of the code available and is it what I see at Wordpress.org. The way people site the way WordPress can thrash a server under load it seems like some major architectural changes and code had to be made. (This is similar to what happened with TypePad which began as MT and was modified for a massive distributed hosted environment.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andy (#18)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ironic that you compare Automattic business model to MySQL since that is the same business model Six Apart is following with MT and that Matt and Lloyd Budd criticize 6A as not being sincere or real open source. I&#8217;m not saying you have to like either business model, but Automattic lashing out is the pot calling the kettle black. </p>
<p>@Rob Poitras</p>
<p>&#8220;WP and rails are still both 100% open source.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is 100% of the code behind Wordpress.COM open source though? As an outsider to that community its been very confusing to me. I understand .org is 100% opens source and GPL&#8217;ed. I understand wordpress.com is a hosted services. I also understand that Automattic holds controls (legal right) to the &#8220;WordPress&#8221; name (as a trademark? Unclear on this also.) If I wanted to create a wordpress.com clone today &#8212; could I do it? Is 100% of the code available and is it what I see at Wordpress.org. The way people site the way WordPress can thrash a server under load it seems like some major architectural changes and code had to be made. (This is similar to what happened with TypePad which began as MT and was modified for a massive distributed hosted environment.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Poitras</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2036009</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Poitras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the end of the day, wordpress is still the best all around blogging platform.

&lt;em&gt;Couple that with Automattic controlling WordPress as it was its own&lt;/em&gt;
The same goes for DHH and rails, but WP and rails are still both 100% open source. Without leaders the software wouldn't have grown.

Duncan, how about more original posts instead of responses to other peoples blog posts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of the day, wordpress is still the best all around blogging platform.</p>
<p><em>Couple that with Automattic controlling WordPress as it was its own</em><br />
The same goes for DHH and rails, but WP and rails are still both 100% open source. Without leaders the software wouldn&#8217;t have grown.</p>
<p>Duncan, how about more original posts instead of responses to other peoples blog posts?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2035907</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment #3 said "There’s definitely room in this market for someone to come up with something beautiful, built from scratch, that takes lessons from what wordpress got right and what it got wrong."

Please check out Graffiti - http://graffiticms.com

I am a developer on the project. It is super simple to use, yet elegant and poweful. V1 was just released last month, and some great plugins are being built right now. And with its plugin architecture, many don't even need to hit the database as the necessary data is passed to them by Graffiti.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment #3 said &#8220;There’s definitely room in this market for someone to come up with something beautiful, built from scratch, that takes lessons from what wordpress got right and what it got wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please check out Graffiti - <a href="http://graffiticms.com" rel="nofollow">http://graffiticms.com</a></p>
<p>I am a developer on the project. It is super simple to use, yet elegant and poweful. V1 was just released last month, and some great plugins are being built right now. And with its plugin architecture, many don&#8217;t even need to hit the database as the necessary data is passed to them by Graffiti.</p>
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		<title>By: antje wilsch</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2035855</link>
		<dc:creator>antje wilsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are there other industries that have this level of public sparring that tech companies have? I think overall it just makes us all seem like a bunch of sniping, immature brats sometimes. Maybe in fashion &#38; music they trash talk but in any other industry do they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are there other industries that have this level of public sparring that tech companies have? I think overall it just makes us all seem like a bunch of sniping, immature brats sometimes. Maybe in fashion &amp; music they trash talk but in any other industry do they?</p>
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		<title>By: yoshi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2035783</link>
		<dc:creator>yoshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've said it before, and I'll say it again, each of those two platforms have their uses. I use them both for totally different things. I think we've already heard enough, and I'm ready to just move on already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said it before, and I&#8217;ll say it again, each of those two platforms have their uses. I use them both for totally different things. I think we&#8217;ve already heard enough, and I&#8217;m ready to just move on already.</p>
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		<title>By: YDrive</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/13/mullenweg-steps-up-automattic-sixapart-war-of-words/#comment-2035781</link>
		<dc:creator>YDrive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;Or well, another way put, Perl is great, bin-cgi, nah..

haven't used cgi-bin for sooooo looooooong that even forgotton how it's called!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Or well, another way put, Perl is great, bin-cgi, nah..</p>
<p>haven&#8217;t used cgi-bin for sooooo looooooong that even forgotton how it&#8217;s called!</p>
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