Yesterday was Geek-Out Night on The Charlie Rose Show. Wired editor-in-chief Chris Anderson and our own Michael Arrington appeared on back-to-back interviews (30 minutes each, separate interviews). Anderson explains why everything on the Internet is free.
Michael talks with Rose about the Microsoft-Yahoo deal, Facebook, blogs, privacy, and tech policy. He even manages to plug CrunchBase. Nice haircut, Mike.
Something most people don’t know - almost every Charlie Rose interview (over 3,000 of them) is available on their website.
Update: Chris Anderson blogs about his appearance here.
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Great comments from Arrington, all round superb interview. A good days work for Mike.
Nice interview. Got to love Charlie Rose. No bullshit.
The cellphone analogy for NN is better than my cable-network analogy. I’ll start using that to explain it to people… thanks!
Fascinating. Thank you.
But now I feel horribly guilty for having my TV on so often. (Then again, without the TV on I wouldn’t have been able to hear Mr. Arrington say he never watches it. So there you go.)
Wow, Charlie Rose is a baller…I think makes you the official authority on all things internet…and that is for real, C. Rose doesn’t fuck around.
CrunchBase mention… awesome. I even got a plug as ‘an engineer’. I’ll take it.
Is this how he has his PC hooked up to his TV?
http://www.techavid.com/internetTV.php
(not spam just sharing my set up for those who’d like enjoy the Internet from their couch)
Michael, i’m adding you to my facebook! you best accept it too hahaha
Great clips guys. Charlie Rose, for someone of his age, is by far the most tech savvy and intelligent journalist i’ve seen. great work
Gained a lot of respect for Rose…He is dead on about China. This will be the fundamental intersection we will face in the next 10-20 years. How will we maintain our superiority if they have the brains, work ethic, and less (yet growing) material desire?
Great interview with both guests. Arrington’s very last comment about his concern regarding increasingly persuasive virtually reality I believe is understandable but ultimately misplaced. First, we are looking at the issue from our current views of what is ‘real’ and what is not. There still remains the old value that the ‘unreal’ (i.e., imagination, games) have less value and if you spend significant amounts of time in that realm your wasting your life. Secondly, by the time we get to the year 2030 or so when the merge of virtual and real worlds will occur, our views, values, social and other structures will have also evolved. Think about it for a moment. In some sense we already live in such a world considering how much many of us spend on line to socialize, work, shop, gather news, entertain ourselves. Let us just step back for a moment and think of what we would have said to that 20-30 years ago where today we don’t give it a second thought.
Cheers
I chaannel surfed into the last bit with Michael last night - was very interesting, I recommend watching it.
Mike you did an awesome job - Charlie Rose is such a legend and you came across really well and did a great job of providing a balanced view of the state of tech. As dorky as it sounds I was really proud of you.
Cheers - Eric
Hi Mike,
I really appreciated your excellent presentation of tech issues with Charlie Rose. It was especially helpful from my perspective when you mentioned that broadband access is still an huge problem outside urban centres in the US and of course in the schools.
Good work.
Watched this last night in NY.
Michael, did Charlie have an earpiece in or was a producer feeding him lines offset? You did a good job and all, but the real stand out was Charlie and his impressive knowledge of all things tech. Ridiculous.
Christopher - he as an earpiece to the producers, but just for logistics during the show. The man can speak intelligently about, literally, anything. And he prepares like crazy.
Great interviews. Thanks for posting.
Stark difference between this and the crap that Duncan writes about sometimes.
Keep going in this direction.
Enjoyed your interview Mike. There is so much information in your head its crazy. Just build something so we can read your mind. Techcrunch 2.0 perhaps?
Great interview, I watched it twice on PBS. Chris Anderson’s was just okay.
Why most TV shows and journalists don’t get that a tech-oriented interview like this can be compelling and interesting content, I’ll never know. I have a feeling this interview will get Mike’s phone ringing.
Great interview! Nice to see you on a program that I really enjoy!
Great interview. In the future, please refer to “the middle of nowhere” as Midland, texas. I sent an important email to editor e mail. A “must read”
I found the interview interesting on the whole, but I also have to complain about the virtual reality comment. It reminds me of someone with a smattering of finance who asked me what would happen if we had a computer big enough to completely model the entire stock market.
There are already virtual worlds - not only Second Life, but MMORPGs like Eve and WoW, which are taking a large segment of some people’s lives. But we barely even have crude versions of the kind of I/O devices that would be required to make this sort of thing palatable to a mainstream audience (let alone the bandwidth, processing power, etc).
Surely you have concerns that are closer to the realm of science than science fiction? A five year horizon would probably have been more enlightening.
I’m not a tech guy but I found the interview to be very informative. It definitely got me thinking more about the internet and how tech. will affect my business and life.
Best Geek Father-Son moment of the year for me was when Michael Arrington slipped and said “VOIP-Over-IP”.
And my geek son said “yeah, and WINE Is Not an Emulator”.
I am so proud.
That video interview was great with michael, very informative, thanks, awesome I look forward to seeing more. This was better than the Y! one lol.
Great interview Michael.
Great interview Michael. Your explanation on net neutrality was the best I’ve heard. Also the reason why the U.S. is behind Asia and Europe in mobile technology because of the original spectrum allocations in the early 1990’s allowed the big companies to put whatever rules they wanted on the allocations. Also your thoughts on tackling the digital divide are interesting, I definitely agree this is a very important issue which is important to address.
The Kevin Martin thing cracked me up
Kevin Martin.
I stumbled onto your interview as I was channel surfing. As a longtime reader and someone who does not watch that much TV - it was really surprising- and cool to happen to catch it by accident.
Great interview, Mike! I enjoyed the talk about China. However, I will never agree with you on so-called net neutrality. With new web technologies becoming very bandwidth intensive, using the blunt hand of government to BAN tiered services is foolish.
You clearly know about the horrors of what big government can do in China, so please don’t be a cheerleader for bigger government in America.
Chris Anderson keeps using Craigslist to exemplify the “gift economy” and he continues to be just dead wrong about that.
Chris Anderson: “And the last thing that is free is this freaky thing called the gift economy, which we’ve just seen, Open Source, Wikipedia, the Blogosphere, Craigslist, where people are working for free, there consuming for free, the underlying services are free, and there’s no money changing hands any way. There’s no secret bill at the end of the day. It really is free, and that’s what’s fascinating.”
Charlie Rose: “Yeah, I could never get Craig to talk to me about his economic model.”
Chris Anderson: “Well, you know, he doesn’t really have an economic model. He basically charges for a tiny small… I think for real estate listings. He charges for that, just enough to cover the costs.
Charlie Rose: And not for cars, and not for help wanted, and not for anything else?
Chris Anderson: (Shakes his head no)
It’s just embarrassing. You would think that a guy who writes books about this stuff and appears on Television, would know what the hell he’s talking about.
Wow Michael! Excellent interview! Enjoyed listening to your conversation with Charlie.
Im writing from sweden where charlie rose isn´t available on tv. Haven´t really seen him before and I must say I´m extremely impressed! Scandinavians can tune into Letterman, Conan. Leno, Jon Stewart and Kimmel but where is Rose?. How come Charlie isn´more famous!?? And Arrington was brilliant in the interview as well of course….
I saw the interview twice. Google / MSN & Yahoo are all the same in terms of search quality? really? Not at all my experience. Google always gives me far more relevant searches - and I had the displeasure of working for yahoo search marketing last year. either way, you’re comment caught me off guard. I don’t necessarily mean to say “no, you’re wrong!” - but…its just not been my experience - not even close.
Mike it was an excellent piece on the best interview show anywhere.
@32. Gregg-
So you’re saying that CL DOES charge for Cars and Help Wanted?
Must be a geographic thing, because I have run Job postings on CL several times for free. And I just tried to post a car ad, and it didn’t charge me (I abandoned it just prior to the posting, so I didn’t put garbage out there).
I think CL’s charge model in the Bay area is far different from the rest of the country.
@PaperMoon
CL charges for help wanted in 11 US cities. They charge $75 per ad for San Francisco, and $25 per ad in 10 other large cities. They also charge $25 for apartment ads by brokers in NYC. CL has a very clear and a very profitable business model. I find it very surprising that Mr. Anderson remains clueless about Craigslist.
Here’s a list of cities Craigslist charges for
http://www.craigslist.org/about/job.boards.html
Craigslist is not run as a “gift”. The business model is to monetize each large city’s help wanted postings after each city has reached a critical mass in users. There will come a point where every large city’s CL presence in the US and abroad is monetized.
Mike your have in the last 2 interviews gained an incredible turnaround of your stature. You have gone from being perceived as arrogant and lucky, to being informed and humble. I commend your new persona and have totally restructured my opinion on you and Duncan who also recently has improved leaps and bounds in his kama level.
Mike, great interview. I think I got a glimpse into your political tastes, and I appreiciate the fact that it’s not black and white. It appears to be more pragmatic, which is something we need more of.
I listened carefully, but didn’t hear a reference made directly to broadband in the States as an issue in the campaign. The digital divide is, as I understand it, more or less a comment on who has access and who does not, but I don’t think it addresses the issue of fast connections directly enough to satisfy my concerns on the topic. While I hope BB does get tabled and addressed in a concrete way, I am not optimistic; I believe that companies like Comcast, for example, will only move on this when they have to, which is a shame.
Matthew - if i had my way, we’d spend whatever it took to hook up fiber to every household in the country.
Congrats Mike, that really rocks.
I used to watched Charlie Rose religiously a few years ago and glad to know he’s still on the air. I did happen to glimpse through that “free” Wired magazine issue a few weeks back ’cause I had recently read Trend Watching’s briefing “Free Love” about exactly that…the value of giving things away to increase sales and internet traffic and create a stronger customer base and so forth. It’s an interesting thing that’s happening on and offline these days. I really think it makes sense yet it’s hard to do as a business owner for small businesses I think… Also, it’s good to know that every interview of Charlie Rose is online, thanks so much for that bit of info Erick!
The problem with add-free premium content is that is never remains free if it reaches the masses. I would prefer to pay a fair price for no ads. Software is being poisoned by ads.
Great interview. You mentioned education, in your place I would have emphasized literacy.
Great interview Michael
Yes, great guests but as for Rose he doesn’t shut up and let the guest
answer the question; he keeps interrupting, asking run-on questions,
answering his own questions, etc.
Good job Michael.
Is the wrong person writing books? Bty, when are you going to write yours, Michael, I’d pay to read it!