Comments on: Cheers: Amazon To Enter Wine Business

By: flower

flower — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:47:49 +0000

kid + credit cards…how come parents?

By: ONLINE SERVICES/INTERACTIVE MEDIA « Daily Marauder

ONLINE SERVICES/INTERACTIVE MEDIA « Daily Marauder — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:13:14 +0000

[...] Amazon has again announced that it will start selling US-produced wine to its American customers by the beginning of October. (http://www.tech...lcohol-business 9/11) [...]

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Amazon Is Getting Into the Alcohol Business — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:39:28 +0000

[...] Amazon has again announced that it will start selling US-produced wine to its American customers by the beginning of October. [...]

By: Pascal Davis

Pascal Davis — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:43:09 +0000

Re: comment #43 form Jurado:
I’d like to make a correction here. While it may not be true in all states, wineries can sell directly to retailers and restaurants. They can even do so online. The 3-tier system does complicate this is some states, particularly for ‘cross-border’ transactions, but it works and this market will grow. For example, CA and WA wineries already sell directly to restaurants and retailers in state. The fact that such online transactions are now legal and compliant will only further the on-going dis-intermediation of the wine industry.
Inertia Beverage Group (I work for them) offers the only online shopping cart for direct-to-trade wine sales, allowing wine retailers or restaurateurs to buy directly from wineries. See here: http://www.winerevolution.com

Re: comment #38 from Henry:
There are more and more wineries in the US and fewer and fewer distributors. Given this expansion of supply and contraction of trade demand, small producers’ best hope is to sell more online. If Amazon can tap into that type of supply, they can aim for a larger selection and better margins, satisfying a growing consumer demand. The ‘long -tail’ is well suited for the wine business – the main barriers being compliance (ripples of prohibition..) and logistics (it cost $15 to ship one bottle of wine..).
Should Amazon decide to operate as a marketplace for small producers they can be a hero to the industry and avoid the messy overhead that wine.com has had to implement.

Cheers!

By: Jurado

Jurado — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:54:11 +0000

The Three Tier distribution system does not allow producers to sell directly to the retailer….Let’s pray that each state will do away with this arcarne law that was established during Prohibition to protect bootleggers!

Hopefully Amazon can take the Costco road and continue to fight in each state to have this distribution monopolistic law repelled!

Until then my spirit friends, we will continue to pay a premium for low end wines on the internet.

By: Chris Matthieu

Chris Matthieu — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:43:13 +0000

Andre, You should use Numly Numbers as your ESBN. They have already developed an ESN standard and have a great RESTful API for generating new numbers on the fly!

By: Aaron

Aaron — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:47:13 +0000

I purchase wine from wineries online all the time. And every single time the delivery person has to check my license before I get it. They won’t leave the wine at the door if you aren’t there, you still have to go to the UPS or FedEx location and flash your ID to pick up your order.

By: Philip James

Philip James — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:22:01 +0000

ID verification is done peripherally online at the time of the order, but of course its easy to spoof. The real check, should, and does take place at the moment of delivery.

Fedex and the other carriers charge an additional $3.50 to ensure that the recipient of the package is over 21. They will not leave the package on the stoop, will not leave it without a signature and they check the recipients drivers license at that point.

So for an underage person to get alcohol online, they have to order it, pay for shipping, wait a week, then using fake id get the package off the delivery guy. At that point i think there are probably easier/faster/cheaper ways to obtain alcohol.

I am excited to see what Amazon bring to the industry, although i’m equally excited by the usb wine tap and will be mailing my 9.95 euros off immediately.

By: Andre Ribeirinho

Andre Ribeirinho — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:53:51 +0000

We are working on an ISBN for wines called AVIN (www.avin.cc).

The idea is to create an unique indentifier for wine based on the information that the users and producers of Adegga.com have been managing. The list will be licensed under Creative Commons and available for anyone to use.

Cheers,
André
:: Adegga.com – Social Wine Discovery

By: Henry Work

Henry Work — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:34:28 +0000

Regardless of the wine bashers, the ID verification issues, the “it’s already been done” crowd… I think this is best not for Amazon, but the small wineries out there. Currently they have to go through local distributors… a kind of unnecessary middleman.

By: Technicle

Technicle — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:38:43 +0000

AWS… Amazon Wine Services.. good taste via the web.

By: fluencev

fluencev — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:37:12 +0000

thank god
i like them i like wine

By: brianloveswords

brianloveswords — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:33:39 +0000

Chris Matthieu, you break the number one rule of website design which is DON’T USE EMBEDED MIDIS DEAR GOD ARE YOU CRAZY?

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James Youngs — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:01:53 +0000

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By: singsling

singsling — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:54:18 +0000

Try winezap.com, put in your favorite wine (or try “Betz” or “Turley” if you do not know wine) and you will be directed to numerous places that sell wine. Or just look at costco.com.

In my state you must be 21 to sign for the shipment when it arrives.

Costco vs. Amazon?

By: Chris Matthieu

Chris Matthieu — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:50:43 +0000

If Amazon finds that their consumers have more of a beer budget, I’ll sell them Chug’d for a great price! I’ll even throw in the chicken dance chug-a-lug game for free

By: JS

JS — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:33:39 +0000

@ Zoli I'm not sure how you can compare selling wine to selling software. You can get software without the bulky packaging, but until they develop a real elaborate set of tubes, I don't think I'll be getting wine without some sort of packaging and bulk... the more bulk the better.

By: nok

nok — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:22:07 +0000

Zoli – thank you for that – made my day.
another great reason why i’ll always have a job i enjoy. good luck amazon.

By: nemrut

nemrut — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:21:29 +0000

Wine is over-rated and extremely wasteful to produce, bottle and transport.

Not a very earth-friendly product…

By: wino1

wino1 — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:33:38 +0000

awesome…wine.com and its breathren stink! they havent invested anything into a better experience in years and amazon should go eat their lunch. go amazon!

By: Zoli's Blog

Zoli's Blog — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:07:42 +0000

Amazon’s New Wine Business Already Obsolete…

Amazon will soon start selling wine, reports the Financial Times. Too bad it’s based on an obsolete model: physically shipping bulky goods. It’s like shipping boxed software, when it’s available on the Net. Or …

By: Zoli Erdos

Zoli Erdos — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:07:13 +0000

Too bad it’s already obsolete

By: Rose

Rose — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:55:42 +0000

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By: Adam

Adam — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:40:56 +0000

I’m sure the under-age issue won’t be a problem. I’m guessing they know a lot more about you than just your age when you log in to their site.