Comments on: Yahoo Is Still Looking For A White Knight—News Corp.’s Offer Does Not Pencil Out, Neither Does AOL’s http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/ Startup and Tech News Sat, 17 May 2008 09:37:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Tech Info Vietnam » Microsoft và Yahoo - những thông tin mới nhất http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2159344 Tech Info Vietnam » Microsoft và Yahoo - những thông tin mới nhất Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:59:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2159344 [...] work. We’ve believed all along that Time Warner will put an offer on the table, but it will be difficult to make it pencil out, especially if an AOL-Yahoo combo is up against a three-way Microsoft-MySpace-Yahoo [...] […] work. We’ve believed all along that Time Warner will put an offer on the table, but it will be difficult to make it pencil out, especially if an AOL-Yahoo combo is up against a three-way Microsoft-MySpace-Yahoo […]

]]> By: Yahoo Goes Scorched Earth http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2159205 Yahoo Goes Scorched Earth Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:02:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2159205 [...] in World War II, they’ve abandoned their Yahoo soul mate for a more compliant Microsoft. They put in a bid for Yahoo in February (more), which was reportedly countered just a couple of weeks ago. My guess is the [...] […] in World War II, they’ve abandoned their Yahoo soul mate for a more compliant Microsoft. They put in a bid for Yahoo in February (more), which was reportedly countered just a couple of weeks ago. My guess is the […]

]]> By: In Another Surprise Twist, AOL-Yahoo Deal Said to Be Close At Hand http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2158453 In Another Surprise Twist, AOL-Yahoo Deal Said to Be Close At Hand Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:42:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2158453 [...] We’ve believed all along that Time Warner will put an offer on the table, but it will be difficult to make it pencil out, especially if an AOL-Yahoo combo is up against a three-way Microsoft-MySpace-Yahoo [...] […] We’ve believed all along that Time Warner will put an offer on the table, but it will be difficult to make it pencil out, especially if an AOL-Yahoo combo is up against a three-way Microsoft-MySpace-Yahoo […]

]]> By: Le Blogueur » Blog Archive » Affaire Microsoft/Yahoo: NewsCorp jette l’éponge http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2042583 Le Blogueur » Blog Archive » Affaire Microsoft/Yahoo: NewsCorp jette l’éponge Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:33:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2042583 [...] en contradiction avec ce que nous avons pu entendre récemment, à savoir que NewsCorp avait fait une offre oficielle à Yahoo il y a une semaine et avait publiquement annoncé son intention de négocier avec Microsoft pour [...] […] en contradiction avec ce que nous avons pu entendre récemment, à savoir que NewsCorp avait fait une offre oficielle à Yahoo il y a une semaine et avait publiquement annoncé son intention de négocier avec Microsoft pour […]

]]> By: TechCrunch en français » Affaire Microsoft/Yahoo: NewsCorp jette l'éponge http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2030241 TechCrunch en français » Affaire Microsoft/Yahoo: NewsCorp jette l'éponge Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:46:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2030241 [...] en contradiction avec ce que nous avons pu entendre récemment, a savoir que NewsCorp avait fait une offre oficielle a Yahoo il y a une semaine et avait publiquement annoncé son intention de négocier avec Microsoft pour [...] […] en contradiction avec ce que nous avons pu entendre récemment, a savoir que NewsCorp avait fait une offre oficielle a Yahoo il y a une semaine et avait publiquement annoncé son intention de négocier avec Microsoft pour […]

]]> By: james http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2026167 james Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:11:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2026167 I think that Amazon should make a play for Yahoo. After all, Amazon actually gets customers to buy things. Advertisers want customers to buy their products. Amazon gets customers to buy products. Yahoo has higher name recognition than Amazon, therefore can generate greater cash flow. Yahoo can charge for products such as retail goods, etc. Heck, they can sell anything to anyone of their users and take a piece of the commission. I think that Amazon should make a play for Yahoo. After all, Amazon actually gets customers to buy things.

Advertisers want customers to buy their products. Amazon gets customers to buy products. Yahoo has higher name recognition than Amazon, therefore can generate greater cash flow.

Yahoo can charge for products such as retail goods, etc. Heck, they can sell anything to anyone of their users and take a piece of the commission.

]]> By: DOOMSDAY http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2018191 DOOMSDAY Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:27:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2018191 When it comes to the Internet, pretty much anything Time-Warner touches is going down. They don't understand it. They are a print company who still think that the Internet exists ONLY as an avenue to deliver online versions of print. Time-Warner doesn't get it...never have...never will. Yahoo's board is CRAZY to fight MSFT....it's the best thing that could happen for them right now. When it comes to the Internet, pretty much anything Time-Warner touches is going down. They don’t understand it. They are a print company who still think that the Internet exists ONLY as an avenue to deliver online versions of print. Time-Warner doesn’t get it…never have…never will.

Yahoo’s board is CRAZY to fight MSFT….it’s the best thing that could happen for them right now.

]]> By: Hyper Driver http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2017786 Hyper Driver Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:45:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2017786 I wondering if Apple could benifit from a Yahoo partnership. The two seem more compatible with more prospect than the others. I wondering if Apple could benifit from a Yahoo partnership. The two seem more compatible with more prospect than the others.

]]> By: Anti-MSFT http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2017697 Anti-MSFT Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:21:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2017697 What would happen if Yahoo struck a deal with a rival of MSFT such as Redhat or Novell? Would it make it a harder buy for MSFT? What would happen if Yahoo struck a deal with a rival of MSFT such as Redhat or Novell? Would it make it a harder buy for MSFT?

]]> By: Keith Watanabe.net 2.0| AOL + Yahoo = Not A Bad Idea? http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2017397 Keith Watanabe.net 2.0| AOL + Yahoo = Not A Bad Idea? Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:45:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2017397 <strong>AOL + Yahoo = Not A Bad Idea?...</strong> I found your entry interesting do I've added a Trackback to it on my weblog :)... AOL + Yahoo = Not A Bad Idea?…

I found your entry interesting do I’ve added a Trackback to it on my weblog :)…

]]> By: Erik http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016891 Erik Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:12:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016891 I think Erick is missing the point on this post. AOL does more display revenue than search revenue and their Platform A segment is really their growth segment, not search or AOL.com. Display is what Yahoo is good at so I don't see why AOL would necessarily switch search to Panama. The point of this deal would be to aggregate display and search would be secondary. That being said, MSFT is clearly the best deal and YHOO is just hurting itself by childishly looking for a better suitor when they know none exists, at least from a shareholder perspective. I think Erick is missing the point on this post. AOL does more display revenue than search revenue and their Platform A segment is really their growth segment, not search or AOL.com. Display is what Yahoo is good at so I don’t see why AOL would necessarily switch search to Panama. The point of this deal would be to aggregate display and search would be secondary. That being said, MSFT is clearly the best deal and YHOO is just hurting itself by childishly looking for a better suitor when they know none exists, at least from a shareholder perspective.

]]> By: hello http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016877 hello Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:02:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016877 hello. hello.

]]> By: jro http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016820 jro Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:27:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016820 I've heard the complaints from those who don't want to see Yahoo rolled into Microsoft, for any number of reasons (some are valid, some are not.) But seriously, rolling AOL together with Yahoo? If MS made a behind-the-scenes offer to Yahoo a year ago, and Yahoo rejected it, they had a year to shore themselves up with the likes of AOL. Did something change in the past year where a Yahoo/AOL merger makes sense? We all understand that Yahoo wants to get a higher price, but at what cost? Suppose MS says "no thanks". Everyone is *betting* they wouldn't do that, but I'm not so sure. So, imagine Yahoo investors are left with an AOL merger instead of an MS acquisition. You know, the AOL whose search is driven by Google, the AOL of which Google owns 5%. Why exactly is this better for Yahoo than an MS acquisition? I’ve heard the complaints from those who don’t want to see Yahoo rolled into Microsoft, for any number of reasons (some are valid, some are not.) But seriously, rolling AOL together with Yahoo?

If MS made a behind-the-scenes offer to Yahoo a year ago, and Yahoo rejected it, they had a year to shore themselves up with the likes of AOL. Did something change in the past year where a Yahoo/AOL merger makes sense?

We all understand that Yahoo wants to get a higher price, but at what cost? Suppose MS says “no thanks”. Everyone is *betting* they wouldn’t do that, but I’m not so sure.

So, imagine Yahoo investors are left with an AOL merger instead of an MS acquisition. You know, the AOL whose search is driven by Google, the AOL of which Google owns 5%.

Why exactly is this better for Yahoo than an MS acquisition?

]]> By: Technicle http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016784 Technicle Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:08:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016784 @17, Microsoft is buying Yahoo. Only that Yahoo doesn't want to be bought (by Microsoft [for that offer]). @17, Microsoft is buying Yahoo. Only that Yahoo doesn’t want to be bought (by Microsoft [for that offer]).

]]> By: randy http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016729 randy Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:31:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016729 Microsoft should buy Yahoo. Nothing else matters Microsoft should buy Yahoo. Nothing else matters

]]> By: Technicle http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016716 Technicle Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:24:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016716 @15, very true that Yahoo! frontpage styles have been widely copied quite often. @15, very true that Yahoo! frontpage styles have been widely copied quite often.

]]> By: mark http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016708 mark Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:20:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016708 From the looks of the new AOL homepage it looks like AOL desperately wants to be like Yahoo. They might as well be on the same team since AOL copies a lot of what yahoo does. From the looks of the new AOL homepage it looks like AOL desperately wants to be like Yahoo. They might as well be on the same team since AOL copies a lot of what yahoo does.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016693 Andrew Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:11:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016693 I wasn't sure how to contact you with this (techcrunch editors or readers), but I've got a a half a dozen invitations to Yahoo's Fire Eagle that I'm willing to give to the Tech Crunch community. Shoot me an email at a.yellis[at]gmail.com if you want them. I wasn’t sure how to contact you with this (techcrunch editors or readers), but I’ve got a a half a dozen invitations to Yahoo’s Fire Eagle that I’m willing to give to the Tech Crunch community. Shoot me an email at a.yellis[at]gmail.com if you want them.

]]> By: Steel http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016607 Steel Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:12:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016607 The thing that I get furious with is people talk everyday about Yahoo's inability to further monetize, yet demand everything to be free. Advertising cannot sustain every site on the internet Yahoo, as a private company, would be an awesome enterprise, but that's not going to happen til the share price goes in the crapper. I hope to hell, Microsoft withdraws their bid, the stock will then tank, and some private equity firm can wrestle the company away from Yang and then rock on. OR, management should try to do a LBO. But the stock has to tank for that to happen as well. Even then it would be doubtful. People just need to accept the fact that some companies just die a natural death. This could be the case with Yahoo. The thing that I get furious with is people talk everyday about Yahoo’s inability to further monetize, yet demand everything to be free. Advertising cannot sustain every site on the internet Yahoo, as a private company, would be an awesome enterprise, but that’s not going to happen til the share price goes in the crapper. I hope to hell, Microsoft withdraws their bid, the stock will then tank, and some private equity firm can wrestle the company away from Yang and then rock on. OR, management should try to do a LBO. But the stock has to tank for that to happen as well. Even then it would be doubtful. People just need to accept the fact that some companies just die a natural death. This could be the case with Yahoo.

]]> By: FreeMobileGames http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016586 FreeMobileGames Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:58:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016586 Yahoo is a little crazy, offer by Microsoft is a good offer. Yahoo is a little crazy, offer by Microsoft is a good offer.

]]> By: MikeT http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016555 MikeT Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:40:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016555 Microsoft made a smart step in trying to acquire Yahoo, and it will make the second smart step if it will take its offer off the table and let Yahoo slowly die and get its (MSFT's) stock price back where it was before the offer. Yes, Yahoo has a large user base, but this means nothing if they don't monetize it somehow - apart from ad bucks. Most of their "innovations" died and it looks like they ran out of good products. Microsoft made a smart step in trying to acquire Yahoo, and it will make the second smart step if it will take its offer off the table and let Yahoo slowly die and get its (MSFT’s) stock price back where it was before the offer.

Yes, Yahoo has a large user base, but this means nothing if they don’t monetize it somehow - apart from ad bucks. Most of their “innovations” died and it looks like they ran out of good products.

]]> By: Dave Litsky http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016511 Dave Litsky Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:38:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016511 @microwhoo - It's because Jerry Yang is nostalgic for the garage-shop Yahoo! from 1994. @Michael Arrington, he is holding out for a better price because of emotion, not business accumen. It is in Jerry Yang's best interest to take the Microsoft deal because if the stock begins to drop again, his Board of Directors WILL force him out -- and he will get nothing. @microwhoo - It’s because Jerry Yang is nostalgic for the garage-shop Yahoo! from 1994. @Michael Arrington, he is holding out for a better price because of emotion, not business accumen. It is in Jerry Yang’s best interest to take the Microsoft deal because if the stock begins to drop again, his Board of Directors WILL force him out — and he will get nothing.

]]> By: free market research company http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016463 free market research company Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:41:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016463 my advise to Yahoo - dont waste your energy - take M'Soft deal and get on with the Job -- meantime Google may take leading edge ... my advise to Yahoo - dont waste your energy - take M’Soft deal and get on with the Job — meantime Google may take leading edge …

]]> By: Sergei http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016462 Sergei Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:38:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016462 Sorry but AOL means nothing outside US. Yahoo has to think about options globally. No one better than MS. Or at least merge with Myspace. Its all about this two options, and from my point of view its only a matter of time that MS takesover Yahoo!. Yahoo! Q1 2008 results will accelerate the operation for sure. Sorry but AOL means nothing outside US. Yahoo has to think about options globally. No one better than MS. Or at least merge with Myspace.

Its all about this two options, and from my point of view its only a matter of time that MS takesover Yahoo!. Yahoo! Q1 2008 results will accelerate the operation for sure.

]]> By: Dilmah http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016444 Dilmah Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:49:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoo-is-still-looking-for-a-white-knight%e2%80%94news-corps-offer-does-not-pencil-out-neither-does-aols/#comment-2016444 Yang & co don't have anywhere near controlling stakes in Yahoo anymore so I don't see this as becoming a prestige fight over the company. Therefore, as purely financial reasoning will decide this fight, falling stock market combined with uncertain bond market equals MS control over Yahoo. Yang & co don’t have anywhere near controlling stakes in Yahoo anymore so I don’t see this as becoming a prestige fight over the company. Therefore, as purely financial reasoning will decide this fight, falling stock market combined with uncertain bond market equals MS control over Yahoo.

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