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		<title>By: www.teletubis.info &#187; Stats: Obama Still Winning On the Web</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2162785</link>
		<dc:creator>www.teletubis.info &#187; Stats: Obama Still Winning On the Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We all know by now that if you could vote on the Internet, Barack Obama would already be president. His Website has always attracted more traffic than those of other candidates. Unaffiliated video-endorsement site YouBama popped up spontaneously to collect video endorsements from supporters. MoveOn.org is getting its constituents across the Web to rally behind him. Even Silicon Valley digerati like Marc Andreessen love him. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We all know by now that if you could vote on the Internet, Barack Obama would already be president. His Website has always attracted more traffic than those of other candidates. Unaffiliated video-endorsement site YouBama popped up spontaneously to collect video endorsements from supporters. MoveOn.org is getting its constituents across the Web to rally behind him. Even Silicon Valley digerati like Marc Andreessen love him. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2017608</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some questions that people should be asking of Obama:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/questions_for_obama.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some questions that people should be asking of Obama:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/questions_for_obama.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com.....obama.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2017605</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anonymous (130), I’ll agree with you that the practical definition of “Conservative” has changed over the years, but I want to keep pointing out that today’s Liberal is no where near the Liberal of the past. Today’s Liberal - Modern Liberal – is really anti-Western Civilization and some of the ultra-leftists are anti-human. (If you follow the ones who want to get rid of Earth’s population, you’ll know what I mean.)  Watch that Evan Sayet video called “How Modern Liberals Think” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c.

You may like this article on Hillary's and Obama's links to Alinsky: http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/obama_hillary_and_alinskys_rul.html

Obama is a Modern Liberal/Socialist.  He really doesn’t outwardly exhibit the Modern Liberal traits, but you can see it in some of his speeches and positions.  He may be able to talk "common sense", but it is to get elected.  He has surrounded himself with Socialists, not libertarians as somehow the tech crowd thinks.

Since Obama has such little experience, no matter how smart he is, he will have to rely on people he doesn't know (more Socialists) to run the big arms of government.  At least when a governor comes in to office, there is some sort of network of people who have managed things to draw from.  McCain has been around longer so maybe he has a deeper bench.  Obama doesn’t have a bench.

Back to Alinsky, the “counter-culture” belief system and the anti-Democratic tactics that are terrible.  Just think about it: we have rules and systems to change things, yet these people trample over whatever is in their way and screw us all up.  I have utter and abject contempt for these people.  “Community Activist” somehow sounds like a benign life, but the Modern Liberal, counter-culturist (see, they even admit it!) should be stopped.  

Obama should not be President. Hillary should not be President.  I’m not a super McCain fan, but I know that we need to put down the Socialist influences. Everywhere these ideas are tried, they fail.  People want to escape the results of when Obama’s and Hillary’s ideas are put into practice.  I’m always amazed at how the default position of so many people is more Socialist than Conservative. It’s really a testament of how the Modern Liberals have infested the schools.  As I suggested, watch that Evan Sayet video; it explains all sorts of things about these people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonymous (130), I’ll agree with you that the practical definition of “Conservative” has changed over the years, but I want to keep pointing out that today’s Liberal is no where near the Liberal of the past. Today’s Liberal - Modern Liberal – is really anti-Western Civilization and some of the ultra-leftists are anti-human. (If you follow the ones who want to get rid of Earth’s population, you’ll know what I mean.)  Watch that Evan Sayet video called “How Modern Liberals Think” <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c</a>.</p>
<p>You may like this article on Hillary&#8217;s and Obama&#8217;s links to Alinsky: <a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/obama_hillary_and_alinskys_rul.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com.....s_rul.html</a></p>
<p>Obama is a Modern Liberal/Socialist.  He really doesn’t outwardly exhibit the Modern Liberal traits, but you can see it in some of his speeches and positions.  He may be able to talk &#8220;common sense&#8221;, but it is to get elected.  He has surrounded himself with Socialists, not libertarians as somehow the tech crowd thinks.</p>
<p>Since Obama has such little experience, no matter how smart he is, he will have to rely on people he doesn&#8217;t know (more Socialists) to run the big arms of government.  At least when a governor comes in to office, there is some sort of network of people who have managed things to draw from.  McCain has been around longer so maybe he has a deeper bench.  Obama doesn’t have a bench.</p>
<p>Back to Alinsky, the “counter-culture” belief system and the anti-Democratic tactics that are terrible.  Just think about it: we have rules and systems to change things, yet these people trample over whatever is in their way and screw us all up.  I have utter and abject contempt for these people.  “Community Activist” somehow sounds like a benign life, but the Modern Liberal, counter-culturist (see, they even admit it!) should be stopped.  </p>
<p>Obama should not be President. Hillary should not be President.  I’m not a super McCain fan, but I know that we need to put down the Socialist influences. Everywhere these ideas are tried, they fail.  People want to escape the results of when Obama’s and Hillary’s ideas are put into practice.  I’m always amazed at how the default position of so many people is more Socialist than Conservative. It’s really a testament of how the Modern Liberals have infested the schools.  As I suggested, watch that Evan Sayet video; it explains all sorts of things about these people.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2016418</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Al: Liberals say the converse thing -- old conservatives were more liberal than today's conservatives.  Times change and positions change.  Lincoln, our most famous Republican, was pro-federal-government, an atheist, and for civil rights.  Today, he wouldn't be able to be nominated as a Democrat.

Obama's strength was Reagan's strength: he can talk to the people, and really get to the gist of how many people feel about where the country is, and where it should be going.  He can get crossover votes, like Reagan did, and this blunts the ability of a Republican senate or congress to pass legislation.  He's aware that he's not a "details" guy, and will surround himself with policy experts.

That said, the man is smart.  His strategy of going for small states, poor folks, and the libertarian tech vote meshes well with netroots campaigning and his overall themes.  (This worked for Bill Clinton too.)  There's "audacity" in this strategy, because, while it plays to the Democrat strengths (sustained campaigning, popular outreach), most Democrats at the national level fear it and prefer the safer "big media, big states" strategy and rely for their allied grassroots folks to take care of the little people.

Obama, being a community organizer, probably saw the unrealized potential of combining netroots tech with real social needs, to create new voters.  The method is basic: the organizer finds the local leaders, and nurtures local leadership.  The local leaders become organizers for their own community.  The community becomes a political voting bloc that causes local voter turnout to explode, causing fear in the incumbent politicians.

Of course, this strategy could have failed terribly.  In fact, it's so expensive to implement that it probably would have failed, but the planets were aligned, just right, for things to work.

Community organizing was invented in the 30s and 40s, refined in the 50s, created "the 60s", and in the 70s and 80s, was adopted by the Christian Right to build its political base.  It was used to turn the Republican party into a creationist, Christian party.  Most notably, though, it was *not* used by Bill Clinton, who ignored the Left organizing world.  (That's why the went for Nader -- they were frozen out.  During this time frame, 3rd parties did much better among people of color than ever before.)  Obama brought the organizing back into the game -- and it was easier because of the increasing division between rich and poor in the country, and also because a lot of web software now embodies some aspects of community organizing.

Economically, consumer-grade high-tech likes Obama because the new media, like the old media, is  a low-cost product that primarily sells to regular working folks.  Anything that helps people maintain or increase wages, and have discretionary income, ultimately helps the new media.  In the past, tech voted Republican because a lot of tech was purchased by the military, and Republicans increased the military budget.  New media doesn't sell to the military, and it's not large enough (yet) to give donations like the DJIA companies do, (Microsoft, ATT, and IBM go Republican, just to note) so, two reasons to vote GOP don't exist for them.

New media companies don't worry about taxes, because new companies tend to have slim profits, and no dividends.  So, everything is an expense, including what's paid back to the venture capitalists.   Some hotshots are getting rich, but overall, the companies aren't yet rich.  Additionally, there's not a lot of legislation affecting new media, so they don't have a large lobbying budget the way telecoms and defense tech companies have.

One other thing... the unions have been silent about Net Neutrality.  The most significant union would be the Communication Workers of America, which represents some people who help maintain the 'net, and which probably has a lobbyist conversant in telecom laws, has been silent about it.  They are probably  siding with ATT, which is the only large telecom company that's got a union.  ATT opposes Net Neutrality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Al: Liberals say the converse thing &#8212; old conservatives were more liberal than today&#8217;s conservatives.  Times change and positions change.  Lincoln, our most famous Republican, was pro-federal-government, an atheist, and for civil rights.  Today, he wouldn&#8217;t be able to be nominated as a Democrat.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s strength was Reagan&#8217;s strength: he can talk to the people, and really get to the gist of how many people feel about where the country is, and where it should be going.  He can get crossover votes, like Reagan did, and this blunts the ability of a Republican senate or congress to pass legislation.  He&#8217;s aware that he&#8217;s not a &#8220;details&#8221; guy, and will surround himself with policy experts.</p>
<p>That said, the man is smart.  His strategy of going for small states, poor folks, and the libertarian tech vote meshes well with netroots campaigning and his overall themes.  (This worked for Bill Clinton too.)  There&#8217;s &#8220;audacity&#8221; in this strategy, because, while it plays to the Democrat strengths (sustained campaigning, popular outreach), most Democrats at the national level fear it and prefer the safer &#8220;big media, big states&#8221; strategy and rely for their allied grassroots folks to take care of the little people.</p>
<p>Obama, being a community organizer, probably saw the unrealized potential of combining netroots tech with real social needs, to create new voters.  The method is basic: the organizer finds the local leaders, and nurtures local leadership.  The local leaders become organizers for their own community.  The community becomes a political voting bloc that causes local voter turnout to explode, causing fear in the incumbent politicians.</p>
<p>Of course, this strategy could have failed terribly.  In fact, it&#8217;s so expensive to implement that it probably would have failed, but the planets were aligned, just right, for things to work.</p>
<p>Community organizing was invented in the 30s and 40s, refined in the 50s, created &#8220;the 60s&#8221;, and in the 70s and 80s, was adopted by the Christian Right to build its political base.  It was used to turn the Republican party into a creationist, Christian party.  Most notably, though, it was *not* used by Bill Clinton, who ignored the Left organizing world.  (That&#8217;s why the went for Nader &#8212; they were frozen out.  During this time frame, 3rd parties did much better among people of color than ever before.)  Obama brought the organizing back into the game &#8212; and it was easier because of the increasing division between rich and poor in the country, and also because a lot of web software now embodies some aspects of community organizing.</p>
<p>Economically, consumer-grade high-tech likes Obama because the new media, like the old media, is  a low-cost product that primarily sells to regular working folks.  Anything that helps people maintain or increase wages, and have discretionary income, ultimately helps the new media.  In the past, tech voted Republican because a lot of tech was purchased by the military, and Republicans increased the military budget.  New media doesn&#8217;t sell to the military, and it&#8217;s not large enough (yet) to give donations like the DJIA companies do, (Microsoft, ATT, and IBM go Republican, just to note) so, two reasons to vote GOP don&#8217;t exist for them.</p>
<p>New media companies don&#8217;t worry about taxes, because new companies tend to have slim profits, and no dividends.  So, everything is an expense, including what&#8217;s paid back to the venture capitalists.   Some hotshots are getting rich, but overall, the companies aren&#8217;t yet rich.  Additionally, there&#8217;s not a lot of legislation affecting new media, so they don&#8217;t have a large lobbying budget the way telecoms and defense tech companies have.</p>
<p>One other thing&#8230; the unions have been silent about Net Neutrality.  The most significant union would be the Communication Workers of America, which represents some people who help maintain the &#8216;net, and which probably has a lobbyist conversant in telecom laws, has been silent about it.  They are probably  siding with ATT, which is the only large telecom company that&#8217;s got a union.  ATT opposes Net Neutrality.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2016089</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh (104), the people who "birthed" the internet were not what most people today would call "Liberals" - and what some others call "Modern Liberals."  Many of the people who birthed the Internet may have been Liberals back then, but by today's standards, they were more conservative.
People like JFK and Hubert Humphrey would be conservatives now.  Read some of their writings &#38; speeches.

Today's Modern Liberals (the people who have taken over much of politics in Western Europe and the whole of the Democratic Party in the US) do not resemble of Liberals of the past.

Watch that video "How Modern Liberals Think" (all of it) to learn about them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c   Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh (104), the people who &#8220;birthed&#8221; the internet were not what most people today would call &#8220;Liberals&#8221; - and what some others call &#8220;Modern Liberals.&#8221;  Many of the people who birthed the Internet may have been Liberals back then, but by today&#8217;s standards, they were more conservative.<br />
People like JFK and Hubert Humphrey would be conservatives now.  Read some of their writings &amp; speeches.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s Modern Liberals (the people who have taken over much of politics in Western Europe and the whole of the Democratic Party in the US) do not resemble of Liberals of the past.</p>
<p>Watch that video &#8220;How Modern Liberals Think&#8221; (all of it) to learn about them: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c</a>   Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015854</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its naive to think that growing up in other countries will make you good at foreign policy - naive for both Obama to say it and for people to believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its naive to think that growing up in other countries will make you good at foreign policy - naive for both Obama to say it and for people to believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015838</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's really irritating that you guys think you should be involved in politics.

And if I hear again that all Hawaiians with an immigrant parent should be considered foreign policy experts, I'll puke (damn, it happened already).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really irritating that you guys think you should be involved in politics.</p>
<p>And if I hear again that all Hawaiians with an immigrant parent should be considered foreign policy experts, I&#8217;ll puke (damn, it happened already).</p>
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		<title>By: neri</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015773</link>
		<dc:creator>neri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheeple need to open their eyes! Obama is full of hot air and gas! Review his record as Senator of Illinois and you will find that he failed to promote change at any level in his home state. Change begins at home! 

I also fail to see where he is bringing the people together! Did he start a march on Washington to prevent the Iraq war? I don't recall ever hearing his voice, when others screamed from the mountain tops of what a mistake this  war with Iraq would be. 

Is this what American's see as progress? Another stooge looking for title? We need a leader not a wannabe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheeple need to open their eyes! Obama is full of hot air and gas! Review his record as Senator of Illinois and you will find that he failed to promote change at any level in his home state. Change begins at home! </p>
<p>I also fail to see where he is bringing the people together! Did he start a march on Washington to prevent the Iraq war? I don&#8217;t recall ever hearing his voice, when others screamed from the mountain tops of what a mistake this  war with Iraq would be. </p>
<p>Is this what American&#8217;s see as progress? Another stooge looking for title? We need a leader not a wannabe!</p>
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		<title>By: Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015769</link>
		<dc:creator>Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Explain to me the following:
1) Why *any* politician gets publicity on a website that talks about technology?
2) Why everyone's salivating over a guy who's policies will throw us into a massive recession, and quite possibly a huge depression, while &lt;a href="http://fiveboxes.com/2008/02/19/call-to-action-obama’s-un-tax-proposal-s2433-up-for-senate-vote/" rel="nofollow"&gt;proposing signing over U.S. tax dollars to the U.N.?&lt;/a&gt;
3) Why TechCrunch, a website devoted news about entrepreneurial companies, is fawning over a candidate who favors higher taxes, which is counter to entrepreneurship?
4) Why this story runs TODAY, on "Super Tuesday 2", the make-or-break day for Obama's only remaining challenger to the Democratic nomination?

TechCrunch, your agenda is showing. I cancelled my Wired subscription for just this reason. Keep it up and you'll lose me too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explain to me the following:<br />
1) Why *any* politician gets publicity on a website that talks about technology?<br />
2) Why everyone&#8217;s salivating over a guy who&#8217;s policies will throw us into a massive recession, and quite possibly a huge depression, while <a href="http://fiveboxes.com/2008/02/19/call-to-action-obama’s-un-tax-proposal-s2433-up-for-senate-vote/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/fiveboxes.com');">proposing signing over U.S. tax dollars to the U.N.?</a><br />
3) Why TechCrunch, a website devoted news about entrepreneurial companies, is fawning over a candidate who favors higher taxes, which is counter to entrepreneurship?<br />
4) Why this story runs TODAY, on &#8220;Super Tuesday 2&#8243;, the make-or-break day for Obama&#8217;s only remaining challenger to the Democratic nomination?</p>
<p>TechCrunch, your agenda is showing. I cancelled my Wired subscription for just this reason. Keep it up and you&#8217;ll lose me too.</p>
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		<title>By: Are You Listening?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015681</link>
		<dc:creator>Are You Listening?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the entrepreneurs supporting Obama should consider that he will raise the capital gains tax meaning YOU will be poorer.  Vote McCain.

It's all good for Marc Andreessen since he's already liquid and Ning would just be home run #3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the entrepreneurs supporting Obama should consider that he will raise the capital gains tax meaning YOU will be poorer.  Vote McCain.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all good for Marc Andreessen since he&#8217;s already liquid and Ning would just be home run #3.</p>
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		<title>By: jenkins</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015655</link>
		<dc:creator>jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem with Obama is that he's so unknown. If he's truly great then let's see him display his greatness in the Senate, then we will all vote for him. This is NOT what his followers want. They want access to the Whitehouse no matter what the logic is, and they are willing to rationalize any/all issues until they get him there. It's been a l-o-n-g time since a real liberal had access to the Whitehouse so i understand the mindset. My issue is, again, with the logic. We're supposed to vote for Obama and overlook his very thin background and experience because some innate goodness about him. So, let's see him prove his greatness in the Senate, then run for the presidency. This is what McCain has done, right? Like him or not he's been fighting the good fight for decades. We don't have to strain our brains or use ridiculous lofty language to describe what he *might* do because we know. With Obama you have lots of really smart people sounding almost childishly naive about what Obama *could* or *might* be, not what he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with Obama is that he&#8217;s so unknown. If he&#8217;s truly great then let&#8217;s see him display his greatness in the Senate, then we will all vote for him. This is NOT what his followers want. They want access to the Whitehouse no matter what the logic is, and they are willing to rationalize any/all issues until they get him there. It&#8217;s been a l-o-n-g time since a real liberal had access to the Whitehouse so i understand the mindset. My issue is, again, with the logic. We&#8217;re supposed to vote for Obama and overlook his very thin background and experience because some innate goodness about him. So, let&#8217;s see him prove his greatness in the Senate, then run for the presidency. This is what McCain has done, right? Like him or not he&#8217;s been fighting the good fight for decades. We don&#8217;t have to strain our brains or use ridiculous lofty language to describe what he *might* do because we know. With Obama you have lots of really smart people sounding almost childishly naive about what Obama *could* or *might* be, not what he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015643</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John Smith:

BRAVO!!  GREAT POST!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John Smith:</p>
<p>BRAVO!!  GREAT POST!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015635</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, 

"You disappoint me, as does Al (104), who is clueless to the fact that the internet was birthed and raised by the liberals he sneers at."

I think it might be better said that it was raised by libertarians.  And of course, it was funded by that evil organizatiion called the military (DARPA) which as everyone knows is a bastion of liberalism ;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, </p>
<p>&#8220;You disappoint me, as does Al (104), who is clueless to the fact that the internet was birthed and raised by the liberals he sneers at.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think it might be better said that it was raised by libertarians.  And of course, it was funded by that evil organizatiion called the military (DARPA) which as everyone knows is a bastion of liberalism ;).</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015629</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stick to tech - its what you know.  I have worked in the UN system and worked with many ngos and I can assure you that knowing people outside the US does not qualify someone for improving our relations with the outside world.  Most of the best "connected" people I have known I wouldn't trust running a mom and pop biz.  The recent NAFTA debate demonstrates why people are understandably worried about Obama.  How exactly are we going to improve relations with the rest of the world when Obama is already insulting our neighbors before he is even in the oval office?  Wishful thinking that he can magically snap his fingers and we will suddenly have improved relations with everyone misses some very real, entrenced issues that have nothing to do with the current administration and everything to do with the state of the world outside of this country.  Thinking its otherwise displays a frightening level of naivety.

Having said all that, will Obama make a decent prez?  Who knows.  Some of our most "experienced" presidents have also been our worst.  If you are going to venture into the political arena, please bring the same critical thinking you've displayed in the tech world to the table instead of producing meaningless, breathless hype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stick to tech - its what you know.  I have worked in the UN system and worked with many ngos and I can assure you that knowing people outside the US does not qualify someone for improving our relations with the outside world.  Most of the best &#8220;connected&#8221; people I have known I wouldn&#8217;t trust running a mom and pop biz.  The recent NAFTA debate demonstrates why people are understandably worried about Obama.  How exactly are we going to improve relations with the rest of the world when Obama is already insulting our neighbors before he is even in the oval office?  Wishful thinking that he can magically snap his fingers and we will suddenly have improved relations with everyone misses some very real, entrenced issues that have nothing to do with the current administration and everything to do with the state of the world outside of this country.  Thinking its otherwise displays a frightening level of naivety.</p>
<p>Having said all that, will Obama make a decent prez?  Who knows.  Some of our most &#8220;experienced&#8221; presidents have also been our worst.  If you are going to venture into the political arena, please bring the same critical thinking you&#8217;ve displayed in the tech world to the table instead of producing meaningless, breathless hype.</p>
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		<title>By: jenkins</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015626</link>
		<dc:creator>jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All great comments about Obama. The bottonline: He's not qualified to be president but people may not care and vote for him anyway. We'll know a lot more by tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All great comments about Obama. The bottonline: He&#8217;s not qualified to be president but people may not care and vote for him anyway. We&#8217;ll know a lot more by tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Town Crier</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015550</link>
		<dc:creator>Town Crier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: 103. Thanks, David.

RE: 105. John Smith, who wrote:

"Wow Town Crier. That’s sad. I could be wrong but you pretty much just said that the reason that Obama should be voted president is because he’s black... "

You said it, Mr. Smith, you are pretty much wrong. My main point is... Obama navigated his way to the final three... without the name recognition of being the spouse of a former president, or from being a war hero.

For a no name rookie senator, with no national 'playoff experience', to make it to the final three... while carrying "extra (black) baggage"... well that's the person who not only gets my vote, but who, IMO, is demonstratably better qualified, to navigate our American ship of State through domestic and foriegn waters... where effective communications, in this (global) information age, is perhaps the most critical factor for success.

The "all men are created equal" lanquage in the Constitution provides voters the historical framework to 'seize the day'... in the form of an electoral opportunity, and "live up to the promise of America".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: 103. Thanks, David.</p>
<p>RE: 105. John Smith, who wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Wow Town Crier. That’s sad. I could be wrong but you pretty much just said that the reason that Obama should be voted president is because he’s black&#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p>You said it, Mr. Smith, you are pretty much wrong. My main point is&#8230; Obama navigated his way to the final three&#8230; without the name recognition of being the spouse of a former president, or from being a war hero.</p>
<p>For a no name rookie senator, with no national &#8216;playoff experience&#8217;, to make it to the final three&#8230; while carrying &#8220;extra (black) baggage&#8221;&#8230; well that&#8217;s the person who not only gets my vote, but who, IMO, is demonstratably better qualified, to navigate our American ship of State through domestic and foriegn waters&#8230; where effective communications, in this (global) information age, is perhaps the most critical factor for success.</p>
<p>The &#8220;all men are created equal&#8221; lanquage in the Constitution provides voters the historical framework to &#8217;seize the day&#8217;&#8230; in the form of an electoral opportunity, and &#8220;live up to the promise of America&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: johns</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015543</link>
		<dc:creator>johns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ John Smith (#105) said "If Obama gets elected President I will leave the United States because there is nothing that can sink a sinking ship faster then an inexperienced sailor trying to play Captain."

Like George Bush, right?  Someone who had never been outside of North America prior to his coronation?  Someone whose daddy brought him his grades, his college degree, his National Guard stint to evade going to Vietnam, a baseball team and a political career?  Someone who will most likely go down in history as the the worst president we have ever had?

Almost ANYONE will be better than what we have had over the last 8 years!

But please, do keep in touch.  Send a postcard now and then :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ John Smith (#105) said &#8220;If Obama gets elected President I will leave the United States because there is nothing that can sink a sinking ship faster then an inexperienced sailor trying to play Captain.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like George Bush, right?  Someone who had never been outside of North America prior to his coronation?  Someone whose daddy brought him his grades, his college degree, his National Guard stint to evade going to Vietnam, a baseball team and a political career?  Someone who will most likely go down in history as the the worst president we have ever had?</p>
<p>Almost ANYONE will be better than what we have had over the last 8 years!</p>
<p>But please, do keep in touch.  Send a postcard now and then <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: johns</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015540</link>
		<dc:creator>johns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I conclude from reading all of the above postings is:

1. Just because someone reads a tech blog doesn't mean they are intelligent or capable of reasoned thinking,

2. Republicans are afraid.  They know that they don't stand a very good chance with McCain, a 72 year old, flip-flopping geezer who wants to spend another 100 years in Iraq.  Someone who wants to spend trillions more dollars that we don't have and doesn't seem to care about thousands more soldiers and  civilians losing their lives or body parts.  

3. We are getting an early look at the 'Pub FUD attack plan against whomever the Dem candidate turns out to be.  Since Techcrunch endorsed Obama, that is their focus here.  If the endorsement had been for Clinton, the same people would be attacking her.  

4. Will Bushco, the neocons and the evangelicals get desperate enough to try to help McCain by playing the terrorist fear card again?  Will enough of the American voters fall for this again?  Would Bushco go as far as creating an "incident" to try to create more fear, say 6 weeks or so prior to the election?

5. Here we go again, sigh....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I conclude from reading all of the above postings is:</p>
<p>1. Just because someone reads a tech blog doesn&#8217;t mean they are intelligent or capable of reasoned thinking,</p>
<p>2. Republicans are afraid.  They know that they don&#8217;t stand a very good chance with McCain, a 72 year old, flip-flopping geezer who wants to spend another 100 years in Iraq.  Someone who wants to spend trillions more dollars that we don&#8217;t have and doesn&#8217;t seem to care about thousands more soldiers and  civilians losing their lives or body parts.  </p>
<p>3. We are getting an early look at the &#8216;Pub FUD attack plan against whomever the Dem candidate turns out to be.  Since Techcrunch endorsed Obama, that is their focus here.  If the endorsement had been for Clinton, the same people would be attacking her.  </p>
<p>4. Will Bushco, the neocons and the evangelicals get desperate enough to try to help McCain by playing the terrorist fear card again?  Will enough of the American voters fall for this again?  Would Bushco go as far as creating an &#8220;incident&#8221; to try to create more fear, say 6 weeks or so prior to the election?</p>
<p>5. Here we go again, sigh&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: techinvestor</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015537</link>
		<dc:creator>techinvestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some pretty smart VCs and tech entrepreneurs are supporting Obama...

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2007/07/20/the-race-for-the-white-house-goes-through-the-valley/

Here’s a list of Who’s Who among Valley donors to the 2008 race for the White House ...

Barack Obama: 

Bill Davidow, partner and co-founder, Mohr Davidow 

Elevation Partners founder Roger McNamee 

Intuit Chairman Bill Campbell 

Ram Shriram, billionaire investor at Sherpalo Ventures 

Adobe co-founder John Warnock 

Steve Jurvetson, venture capitalist at Draper Fisher Jurvetson 

YouTube co-founder Chad Hurley 

Steve Westly, former eBay exec 

Michael Moritz, partner, Sequoia Capital 

Mitchell Kertzman, venture capitalist with Hummer Winblad, former CEO of Sybase</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some pretty smart VCs and tech entrepreneurs are supporting Obama&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2007/07/20/the-race-for-the-white-house-goes-through-the-valley/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.barrons.com/techt.....he-valley/</a></p>
<p>Here’s a list of Who’s Who among Valley donors to the 2008 race for the White House &#8230;</p>
<p>Barack Obama: </p>
<p>Bill Davidow, partner and co-founder, Mohr Davidow </p>
<p>Elevation Partners founder Roger McNamee </p>
<p>Intuit Chairman Bill Campbell </p>
<p>Ram Shriram, billionaire investor at Sherpalo Ventures </p>
<p>Adobe co-founder John Warnock </p>
<p>Steve Jurvetson, venture capitalist at Draper Fisher Jurvetson </p>
<p>YouTube co-founder Chad Hurley </p>
<p>Steve Westly, former eBay exec </p>
<p>Michael Moritz, partner, Sequoia Capital </p>
<p>Mitchell Kertzman, venture capitalist with Hummer Winblad, former CEO of Sybase</p>
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		<title>By: techinvestor</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015534</link>
		<dc:creator>techinvestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015534</guid>
		<description>Is Obama the Wall Street Candidate?

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/02/22/is-obama-the-wall-street-candidate/?mod=googlenews_wsj

Is Obama Good for Business?

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/feb2008/db20080212_645487.htm

Some of the smartest folks in Silicon Valley are supporting Obama...

http://valleywag.com/tag/ram-shriram/

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Obama the Wall Street Candidate?</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/02/22/is-obama-the-wall-street-candidate/?mod=googlenews_wsj" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/200.....lenews_wsj</a></p>
<p>Is Obama Good for Business?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/feb2008/db20080212_645487.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/bw.....645487.htm</a></p>
<p>Some of the smartest folks in Silicon Valley are supporting Obama&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://valleywag.com/tag/ram-shriram/" rel="nofollow">http://valleywag.com/tag/ram-shriram/</a></p>
<p>&lt;&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: BRadC</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015526</link>
		<dc:creator>BRadC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez Arrington - who knew you were such a sensitive soul?

All I did was call you an arrogant ass and you deleted the comment (between comments 67 and 68)!!  It was a joke fella.  Maybe it's my sense of humour, not a lot of people get it... maybe 1 in 100 ;)

Go ahead... delete this one too... you're the daddy... I'm resigned to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez Arrington - who knew you were such a sensitive soul?</p>
<p>All I did was call you an arrogant ass and you deleted the comment (between comments 67 and 68)!!  It was a joke fella.  Maybe it&#8217;s my sense of humour, not a lot of people get it&#8230; maybe 1 in 100 <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Go ahead&#8230; delete this one too&#8230; you&#8217;re the daddy&#8230; I&#8217;m resigned to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015482</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if either of those two win and become your president I guess it means someone has already spotted the asteroid with the aliens on its way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if either of those two win and become your president I guess it means someone has already spotted the asteroid with the aliens on its way.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015475</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@98 Jonathon,

As an anonymous internet troll, I expected more from you.  You disappoint me, as does Al (104), who is clueless to the fact that the internet was birthed and raised by the liberals he sneers at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@98 Jonathon,</p>
<p>As an anonymous internet troll, I expected more from you.  You disappoint me, as does Al (104), who is clueless to the fact that the internet was birthed and raised by the liberals he sneers at.</p>
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		<title>By: The Capitalist Pig</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015471</link>
		<dc:creator>The Capitalist Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bottom Line:  Why can't this country just stop being a bunch of pussies and demand TERM LIMITS?  Why do we continue to allow "career politicians" to work their way into the system, have their palms greased by lobbyists, and continue to control our lives?

The entire legislative branch should be run like JURY DUTY.  You serve your country, vote your conscience, and you're done.  If we, as people, have the power to sit on a jury and convict a man or woman and set them up to be PUT TO DEATH, why can't we be relied upon to decide what this country does for Health Care, or poverty, or the environment, or taxes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bottom Line:  Why can&#8217;t this country just stop being a bunch of pussies and demand TERM LIMITS?  Why do we continue to allow &#8220;career politicians&#8221; to work their way into the system, have their palms greased by lobbyists, and continue to control our lives?</p>
<p>The entire legislative branch should be run like JURY DUTY.  You serve your country, vote your conscience, and you&#8217;re done.  If we, as people, have the power to sit on a jury and convict a man or woman and set them up to be PUT TO DEATH, why can&#8217;t we be relied upon to decide what this country does for Health Care, or poverty, or the environment, or taxes?</p>
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		<title>By: ako</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/03/marc-andreessen-for-obama/#comment-2015453</link>
		<dc:creator>ako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taxes are going up because of the wars. The wars in iraq is way more expensive than healthcare or anything else. If you are afraid of paying more taxes, you shouldn't vote republican.

I reality: republicans are spending more money than democrats.

@29

This is the result of 8 years republicans and president bush:

&#62; Interest Rates at ALL TIME HIGHS
&#62; Inflation at ALL TIME HIGHS
&#62; TAXES at ALL TIME HIGHS
&#62; Unemployment near ALL TIME HIGHS
&#62; GAS at ALL TIME HIGHS (indexed for inflation is still higher than today)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taxes are going up because of the wars. The wars in iraq is way more expensive than healthcare or anything else. If you are afraid of paying more taxes, you shouldn&#8217;t vote republican.</p>
<p>I reality: republicans are spending more money than democrats.</p>
<p>@29</p>
<p>This is the result of 8 years republicans and president bush:</p>
<p>&gt; Interest Rates at ALL TIME HIGHS<br />
&gt; Inflation at ALL TIME HIGHS<br />
&gt; TAXES at ALL TIME HIGHS<br />
&gt; Unemployment near ALL TIME HIGHS<br />
&gt; GAS at ALL TIME HIGHS (indexed for inflation is still higher than today)</p>
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