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	<title>Comments on: When Will We Have Our First Valleywag Suicide?</title>
	<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/</link>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 08:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: news computer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Memo to the Web: If you&#8217;re going to impersonate &#8230; [Commentards]</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2263656</link>
		<dc:creator>news computer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Memo to the Web: If you&#8217;re going to impersonate &#8230; [Commentards]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 20:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2263656</guid>
		<description>[...] to the Web: If you&#8217;re going to impersonate me, please try to live up to my standards. It helps to use phrases like &#8220;You fascinate me&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] to the Web: If you&#8217;re going to impersonate me, please try to live up to my standards. It helps to use phrases like &#8220;You fascinate me&#8221; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: blogs as usual &#8212; Chá Quente</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2180900</link>
		<dc:creator>blogs as usual &#8212; Chá Quente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2180900</guid>
		<description>[...] original da blogosfera - mantém um maldoso blog sobre fofocas do Vale do Silício (o que levou o TechCrunch a se perguntar quando rolaria o primeiro suicídio motivado pelo ValleyWag), mas dá embora um que, mesmo sem ter se recuperado da saída de Cox, ainda [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] original da blogosfera - mantém um maldoso blog sobre fofocas do Vale do Silício (o que levou o TechCrunch a se perguntar quando rolaria o primeiro suicídio motivado pelo ValleyWag), mas dá embora um que, mesmo sem ter se recuperado da saída de Cox, ainda [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: www.teletubis.info &#187; Hacker News Bans Valleywag</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2163714</link>
		<dc:creator>www.teletubis.info &#187; Hacker News Bans Valleywag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2163714</guid>
		<description>[...] and thoughtful discussion, so it&#8217;s no surprise that they are thinking of banning the toxic wasteland known as Valleywag. The question is, will larger sites, hoping to avoid the Valleywag trolls, begin to ban them, too?  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] and thoughtful discussion, so it&#8217;s no surprise that they are thinking of banning the toxic wasteland known as Valleywag. The question is, will larger sites, hoping to avoid the Valleywag trolls, begin to ban them, too?  [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Hacker News Considers Banning Valleywag.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2163554</link>
		<dc:creator>Hacker News Considers Banning Valleywag.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2163554</guid>
		<description>[...] It&#8217;s clear that the site is aiming for intelligent and thoughtful discussion, so it&#8217;s no surprise that they are thinking of banning the toxic wasteland known as Valleywag. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] It&#8217;s clear that the site is aiming for intelligent and thoughtful discussion, so it&#8217;s no surprise that they are thinking of banning the toxic wasteland known as Valleywag. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: John Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2039926</link>
		<dc:creator>John Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2039926</guid>
		<description>Yikes comment #113

Here is my latest thoughts on valleyrags latest blogger...

Hookernomics vs. Freakonmics 

http://www.johnmwillis.com/sudhir-venkatesh/40-days-of-rag-on-valleywag-6-hookonmics-vs-freakonmics/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes comment #113</p>
<p>Here is my latest thoughts on valleyrags latest blogger&#8230;</p>
<p>Hookernomics vs. Freakonmics </p>
<p><a href="http://www.johnmwillis.com/sudhir-venkatesh/40-days-of-rag-on-valleywag-6-hookonmics-vs-freakonmics/" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnmwillis.com/sud.....eakonmics/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marah Marie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2017644</link>
		<dc:creator>Marah Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 06:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2017644</guid>
		<description>@Liz, it seems to me they are out to destroy anybody and everybody in tech for the sake of online ad revenues, page views, and the (sick) fame and glory of it. You cannot do what they're doing and have any principles, morals, scruples, decency, respect, or appreciation for people's feelings nor for their right to privacy. 

They are treating techs and online personalities like celebrities but it doesn't wash, nor does it work with but maybe 1% of people online who are so geeky and tech-minded that online authors and more well-known techs really are like celebrities to them. So there's a limited audience for VW's druck, and I don't see that changing much in the future. 

Even if techs and online types become celebs in the eyes of all mankind overnight, VW would still be crossing the line from straight journalism into paparazzi style celeb-hunting with their exposes and seamy tactics. It's not right. I don't think Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan should be treated the way they are by the press, either, living in a bubble made out of cameras and questions, unable to turn left or right and see no one staring back so they can just be themselves. 

While I'm not exempting VW from responsibility in the Wales saga, you have to think Rachel Marsden is a special case. She is very manipulative, and if she can't get what she wants, she turns traitor and destroys whoever wouldn't give in to her. 

Not only did she screencap and submit her IMs with Wales to VW, but she also stole, I forget, I think it was state secrets from her Canadian boyfriend, and when he dumped her, she did him in with the "evidence" too. Then she tried to explain that off with, "Oh, I guess giving me those papers was the least he could do since he wouldn't buy me jewelry. " Sure. She took those papers, no one just hands that kind of stuff off, especially not to a complete whackjob like her. 

You can say, "Oh, but VW still shouldn't have printed all that about her and Wales", but let's get real - that's what VW *does* and we all know it. So did she. She's very manipulative. She has no class or dignity or respect for her um, "friends" at all. 

But I detest VW's exposes all the same (no matter how informative they are, it's still the lowest, snarkiest, most disrespectful form of journalism out there - I think the National Enquirer has more class than they do sometimes) and there's no reason not to think that with enough of a protest, and with enough drop-off in readers, they may very well just knock it off. Keep up with trying to get their advertisers out of there, maybe you can make enough headway that you really will hit them where it hurts, not to mention you might sully their reputation in the ad industry beyond repair.

Another thought - maybe someone should start a Valleywag-rag.com and expose all of *their writer's* weaknesses - I hear Nick Denton is a veritable gold mine of unsavory stories all by himself - and just think, once they start taking that sh*t, maybe they'll finally stop dishing it out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Liz, it seems to me they are out to destroy anybody and everybody in tech for the sake of online ad revenues, page views, and the (sick) fame and glory of it. You cannot do what they&#8217;re doing and have any principles, morals, scruples, decency, respect, or appreciation for people&#8217;s feelings nor for their right to privacy. </p>
<p>They are treating techs and online personalities like celebrities but it doesn&#8217;t wash, nor does it work with but maybe 1% of people online who are so geeky and tech-minded that online authors and more well-known techs really are like celebrities to them. So there&#8217;s a limited audience for VW&#8217;s druck, and I don&#8217;t see that changing much in the future. </p>
<p>Even if techs and online types become celebs in the eyes of all mankind overnight, VW would still be crossing the line from straight journalism into paparazzi style celeb-hunting with their exposes and seamy tactics. It&#8217;s not right. I don&#8217;t think Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan should be treated the way they are by the press, either, living in a bubble made out of cameras and questions, unable to turn left or right and see no one staring back so they can just be themselves. </p>
<p>While I&#8217;m not exempting VW from responsibility in the Wales saga, you have to think Rachel Marsden is a special case. She is very manipulative, and if she can&#8217;t get what she wants, she turns traitor and destroys whoever wouldn&#8217;t give in to her. </p>
<p>Not only did she screencap and submit her IMs with Wales to VW, but she also stole, I forget, I think it was state secrets from her Canadian boyfriend, and when he dumped her, she did him in with the &#8220;evidence&#8221; too. Then she tried to explain that off with, &#8220;Oh, I guess giving me those papers was the least he could do since he wouldn&#8217;t buy me jewelry. &#8221; Sure. She took those papers, no one just hands that kind of stuff off, especially not to a complete whackjob like her. </p>
<p>You can say, &#8220;Oh, but VW still shouldn&#8217;t have printed all that about her and Wales&#8221;, but let&#8217;s get real - that&#8217;s what VW *does* and we all know it. So did she. She&#8217;s very manipulative. She has no class or dignity or respect for her um, &#8220;friends&#8221; at all. </p>
<p>But I detest VW&#8217;s exposes all the same (no matter how informative they are, it&#8217;s still the lowest, snarkiest, most disrespectful form of journalism out there - I think the National Enquirer has more class than they do sometimes) and there&#8217;s no reason not to think that with enough of a protest, and with enough drop-off in readers, they may very well just knock it off. Keep up with trying to get their advertisers out of there, maybe you can make enough headway that you really will hit them where it hurts, not to mention you might sully their reputation in the ad industry beyond repair.</p>
<p>Another thought - maybe someone should start a Valleywag-rag.com and expose all of *their writer&#8217;s* weaknesses - I hear Nick Denton is a veritable gold mine of unsavory stories all by himself - and just think, once they start taking that sh*t, maybe they&#8217;ll finally stop dishing it out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Underbelly of Silicon Valley- ValleySleez &#171; Furrier.org - Business &#38; Technology Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2017183</link>
		<dc:creator>The Underbelly of Silicon Valley- ValleySleez &#171; Furrier.org - Business &#38; Technology Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2017183</guid>
		<description>[...] Silicon Valley-&#160;ValleySleez March 3, 2008 Posted by Furrier.org in social media.  trackback  Mike Arrington wrote a post on Valleywag that is getting traction on the blogosphere.  This is an interesting piece because Mike talks [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Silicon Valley-&nbsp;ValleySleez March 3, 2008 Posted by Furrier.org in social media.  trackback  Mike Arrington wrote a post on Valleywag that is getting traction on the blogosphere.  This is an interesting piece because Mike talks [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2016186</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2016186</guid>
		<description>As one who has been hurt by the yellow journalism, defamatory rumors, out of context half truths, and outright lies; substantiated by disreputable sources of Valleywag. I say "let's hit them where it hurts". The content of the stories is borderline-libelous and scandalous, and has damaged the reputations and hurt many good Silicon Valley executives and their families. 

Last week I noticed only two legitamate advertisers on their site, Alaska Airlines and BMW. So I called them and asked them why they would tarnish their brand by adverising on a site with rumor-mongering and sex trade. The ads were being served up without their knowledge and at least one of them is no longer there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one who has been hurt by the yellow journalism, defamatory rumors, out of context half truths, and outright lies; substantiated by disreputable sources of Valleywag. I say &#8220;let&#8217;s hit them where it hurts&#8221;. The content of the stories is borderline-libelous and scandalous, and has damaged the reputations and hurt many good Silicon Valley executives and their families. </p>
<p>Last week I noticed only two legitamate advertisers on their site, Alaska Airlines and BMW. So I called them and asked them why they would tarnish their brand by adverising on a site with rumor-mongering and sex trade. The ads were being served up without their knowledge and at least one of them is no longer there.</p>
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		<title>By: Marah Marie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2016099</link>
		<dc:creator>Marah Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2016099</guid>
		<description>I won't link to it here - out of the tiny sliver of respect that I have for Mike Arrington (imagine a sliver you have to view under a microscope, then divide it's size by roughly 2 million), but for what it's worth, #103 Marissa, #108 Marissa, and #109 Marissa, my comment to you is now one of the top *headlines* on ValleyWag. Please try to spell your own name correctly in the future. That's all. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t link to it here - out of the tiny sliver of respect that I have for Mike Arrington (imagine a sliver you have to view under a microscope, then divide it&#8217;s size by roughly 2 million), but for what it&#8217;s worth, #103 Marissa, #108 Marissa, and #109 Marissa, my comment to you is now one of the top *headlines* on ValleyWag. Please try to spell your own name correctly in the future. That&#8217;s all. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Marissa Mayer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015938</link>
		<dc:creator>Marissa Mayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015938</guid>
		<description>There can be only one Googirl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There can be only one Googirl.</p>
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		<title>By: Marissa Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015884</link>
		<dc:creator>Marissa Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015884</guid>
		<description>@104: Just because there are other Marissa's on the planet doesnt mean that the google one is the only one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@104: Just because there are other Marissa&#8217;s on the planet doesnt mean that the google one is the only one.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Bronson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015625</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Bronson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015625</guid>
		<description>I disagree...execs in high profile Internet businesses are the rock stars of the business world. They deserve all the attention they seek and then some.  Other than the celebrity CEO's that fill the pages of the smut rags, you don't see conservative CEO's seeking this type of attention, but be a CEO of a hot Internet property and wham...you're on the pages of Wired and Fast Company literally overnight.

I don't feel sorry for any Internet exec that appears on Valley Wag. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen and back in the obscure toil that most of us live in every day. They had a choice...they get all the trappings of the position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree&#8230;execs in high profile Internet businesses are the rock stars of the business world. They deserve all the attention they seek and then some.  Other than the celebrity CEO&#8217;s that fill the pages of the smut rags, you don&#8217;t see conservative CEO&#8217;s seeking this type of attention, but be a CEO of a hot Internet property and wham&#8230;you&#8217;re on the pages of Wired and Fast Company literally overnight.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel sorry for any Internet exec that appears on Valley Wag. If you can&#8217;t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen and back in the obscure toil that most of us live in every day. They had a choice&#8230;they get all the trappings of the position.</p>
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		<title>By: hk</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015586</link>
		<dc:creator>hk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015586</guid>
		<description>Threatening suicide now are we, Arrington? Lol.

You know why I like Valleywag? Because they're funny, and they're not afraid to mercilessly ridiculous, humourless, self-important buffoons like yourself. Spare me your "concern for the poor victimised Valley workers" - as usual, your concern is for no-one but yourself. I find your poorly disguised moans about your tough, tough life and mean, mean valleywag just sickening - why don't you man up a little? Just for a trial?

Face it Arrington - you don't inspire people's love. Rather the opposite. The same instinct that makes me waste my valuable time writing you this comment - ie, thinking you're an absolute turd in desperate need of flushing - inspires Valleywag to dish the dirt on you, too. If you weren't such a pompous little shit, we wouldn't feel the need. You can hate VW, and perhaps you're supposed to - I take a great deal of personal pleasure in seeing your massive head deflated a little each time they write, and I'm sure a whole lot of other people do too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Threatening suicide now are we, Arrington? Lol.</p>
<p>You know why I like Valleywag? Because they&#8217;re funny, and they&#8217;re not afraid to mercilessly ridiculous, humourless, self-important buffoons like yourself. Spare me your &#8220;concern for the poor victimised Valley workers&#8221; - as usual, your concern is for no-one but yourself. I find your poorly disguised moans about your tough, tough life and mean, mean valleywag just sickening - why don&#8217;t you man up a little? Just for a trial?</p>
<p>Face it Arrington - you don&#8217;t inspire people&#8217;s love. Rather the opposite. The same instinct that makes me waste my valuable time writing you this comment - ie, thinking you&#8217;re an absolute turd in desperate need of flushing - inspires Valleywag to dish the dirt on you, too. If you weren&#8217;t such a pompous little shit, we wouldn&#8217;t feel the need. You can hate VW, and perhaps you&#8217;re supposed to - I take a great deal of personal pleasure in seeing your massive head deflated a little each time they write, and I&#8217;m sure a whole lot of other people do too.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015531</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015531</guid>
		<description>Great post Mike, ignore the trolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Mike, ignore the trolls.</p>
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		<title>By: Marah Marie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015509</link>
		<dc:creator>Marah Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015509</guid>
		<description>Marissa, you misspelled you own name? How very not-so-control-freak of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marissa, you misspelled you own name? How very not-so-control-freak of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Marissa Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015437</link>
		<dc:creator>Marissa Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015437</guid>
		<description>The worst part of Valleywag is the hundreds of suckup sycophant commenters who line up to brownnose on every article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst part of Valleywag is the hundreds of suckup sycophant commenters who line up to brownnose on every article!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Boutin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015366</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Boutin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015366</guid>
		<description>I couldn't help noticing that for all his carping, Mike's first sentence admits, "I read all the sordid details."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t help noticing that for all his carping, Mike&#8217;s first sentence admits, &#8220;I read all the sordid details.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015338</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015338</guid>
		<description>Mike... I am sure people with brains can differentiate between Techcrunch and Valleywag..if someone avoids you after reading a gossip blog you might as well not have such a person in your life!

Like they say, "Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike&#8230; I am sure people with brains can differentiate between Techcrunch and Valleywag..if someone avoids you after reading a gossip blog you might as well not have such a person in your life!</p>
<p>Like they say, &#8220;Those who mind don&#8217;t matter and those who matter don&#8217;t mind!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mike sux</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015332</link>
		<dc:creator>mike sux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015332</guid>
		<description>"But the valley was a much nicer place to live and work before the days of Valleywag."

You mean to say it was a place where scam artists like you could operate freely without being held accountable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But the valley was a much nicer place to live and work before the days of Valleywag.&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean to say it was a place where scam artists like you could operate freely without being held accountable?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015284</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015284</guid>
		<description>Mike,

You're above all of this. Vwag picks on you because a) you're a celebrity in Silicon Valley and b) they wish they were even half as accomplished and influential as you are.  Wasn't Nicholas Carlson's last job as a junior news hack at a sh*tty little outlet called Internet News?  He obviously failed as a credible journalist, so he's trying to make his mark as a gossip blogger. Pathetic.

Don't lower yourself to these guys, Mike.  They're just sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re above all of this. Vwag picks on you because a) you&#8217;re a celebrity in Silicon Valley and b) they wish they were even half as accomplished and influential as you are.  Wasn&#8217;t Nicholas Carlson&#8217;s last job as a junior news hack at a sh*tty little outlet called Internet News?  He obviously failed as a credible journalist, so he&#8217;s trying to make his mark as a gossip blogger. Pathetic.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t lower yourself to these guys, Mike.  They&#8217;re just sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015181</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015181</guid>
		<description>"But for people in Silicon Valley, who are not celebrities and who have no desire other than to build a great startup, a post on Valleywag comes as a huge shock."


Perhaps many Silicon Valley tech people are sort of second-rate, wannabe celebrities. No desire other than to build a great startup?

Hmmm. Many industry people I know are very into the parties, the dating, and the trips to Davos (or wherever). They like the titles, the money, and the limited degree of celebrity available to a successful Valley executable or tech visionary.

Nothing wrong with it, but they should perhaps treat Valleywag the same way Hollywood treats the National Enquirer: tolerate if possible, and sue when it gets too outrageous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But for people in Silicon Valley, who are not celebrities and who have no desire other than to build a great startup, a post on Valleywag comes as a huge shock.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps many Silicon Valley tech people are sort of second-rate, wannabe celebrities. No desire other than to build a great startup?</p>
<p>Hmmm. Many industry people I know are very into the parties, the dating, and the trips to Davos (or wherever). They like the titles, the money, and the limited degree of celebrity available to a successful Valley executable or tech visionary.</p>
<p>Nothing wrong with it, but they should perhaps treat Valleywag the same way Hollywood treats the National Enquirer: tolerate if possible, and sue when it gets too outrageous.</p>
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		<title>By: joel maske</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015054</link>
		<dc:creator>joel maske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015054</guid>
		<description>nick is an ass, but he knows it.

with that, i assume (like denton) i'm entitled to my very public opinions.

you get the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nick is an ass, but he knows it.</p>
<p>with that, i assume (like denton) i&#8217;m entitled to my very public opinions.</p>
<p>you get the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Anup Jadhav</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015000</link>
		<dc:creator>Anup Jadhav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2015000</guid>
		<description>First things first. Don't overreact. Even bad publicity is good publicity.
You must know that. 
Now, when talking about suicides is a bit extreme. It also implies that you believe ppl are weak enough to take their lives because some blog post made their sex life public, or defamed them (for e.g. Paul Tilley). That's moronic.
No wonder TED doesn't bother to invite you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First things first. Don&#8217;t overreact. Even bad publicity is good publicity.<br />
You must know that.<br />
Now, when talking about suicides is a bit extreme. It also implies that you believe ppl are weak enough to take their lives because some blog post made their sex life public, or defamed them (for e.g. Paul Tilley). That&#8217;s moronic.<br />
No wonder TED doesn&#8217;t bother to invite you.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2014991</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2014991</guid>
		<description>so what if  valley wag is a lil more gossipy? is it coicidence this valleywag-bashing article came just after valleywag published an article about arington blaming VW for his lil break-up.

mike, dont let your personal life (or lack there of at the moment) affect your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what if  valley wag is a lil more gossipy? is it coicidence this valleywag-bashing article came just after valleywag published an article about arington blaming VW for his lil break-up.</p>
<p>mike, dont let your personal life (or lack there of at the moment) affect your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: sami</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2014931</link>
		<dc:creator>sami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/#comment-2014931</guid>
		<description>In an unnecessary quest to get some more respect in the Alley, Arrington shoots himself in the foot. 

It looks like Denton's ValleyWag is actually doing a good job of uncovering abnormalities around Mr. Wales of Wikipedia, while Arrington is giving the impression that he would have let it go cencored if it was exclusive news to him.

Or just jealous of them breaking the news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an unnecessary quest to get some more respect in the Alley, Arrington shoots himself in the foot. </p>
<p>It looks like Denton&#8217;s ValleyWag is actually doing a good job of uncovering abnormalities around Mr. Wales of Wikipedia, while Arrington is giving the impression that he would have let it go cencored if it was exclusive news to him.</p>
<p>Or just jealous of them breaking the news.</p>
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