Comments on: Can Touch This: DanceJam Opens To The Public http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/ Startup and Technology News Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:15:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Roundup: MySpace in deals with labels, Tudou raises $53M, and more » VentureBeat http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2051175 Roundup: MySpace in deals with labels, Tudou raises $53M, and more » VentureBeat Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:08:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2051175 [...] you read about them, well, you know the end is near,” says Om. Then again, we survived the launch three weeks ago of MC Hammer’s DanceJam, so maybe the internet is more resilient this time [...] [...] you read about them, well, you know the end is near,” says Om. Then again, we survived the launch three weeks ago of MC Hammer’s DanceJam, so maybe the internet is more resilient this time [...]

]]> By: DanceJam Brings Dance Battles Online - Betaflow http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2016149 DanceJam Brings Dance Battles Online - Betaflow Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:07:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2016149 [...] beta on March 3rd. The company has closed $4.5 million in funding, with a some portion coming from TechCrunch’s Michael Arrington. The company intends to bring dance battles to the Internet where users have a “dance [...] [...] beta on March 3rd. The company has closed $4.5 million in funding, with a some portion coming from TechCrunch’s Michael Arrington. The company intends to bring dance battles to the Internet where users have a “dance [...]

]]> By: ProHipHop: Hip Hop Business http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2015751 ProHipHop: Hip Hop Business Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:27:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2015751 <strong>DanceJam Launches, So Why the Delay?...</strong> So DanceJam finally launches and it's kind of underwhelming. Not that there's anything particular wrong with it except that why did it take so long to launch a product that doesn't seem to use the expert content they put so much time and energy into... DanceJam Launches, So Why the Delay?…

So DanceJam finally launches and it’s kind of underwhelming. Not that there’s anything particular wrong with it except that why did it take so long to launch a product that doesn’t seem to use the expert content they put so much time and energy into…

]]> By: Jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2015161 Jason Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:03:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2015161 I think the site has potential. However TAKKLE.com has a similar product to that of DanceJam its called Throwdowns. In essence you could do the same exact thing on TAKKLE as you could on DanceJam. Create a Throwdown and label it just for fun: Best Dance Moves. You should check it out, its a relatively new product to the space as well and it looks great. Good luck to DanceJam however. I think the site has potential. However TAKKLE.com has a similar product to that of DanceJam its called Throwdowns. In essence you could do the same exact thing on TAKKLE as you could on DanceJam. Create a Throwdown and label it just for fun: Best Dance Moves. You should check it out, its a relatively new product to the space as well and it looks great.

Good luck to DanceJam however.

]]> By: edward kim http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2015152 edward kim Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:53:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2015152 I had this exact idea about year ago, called YouDanceLikeAFreak.com. I never followed through on it, but nice to know that other people are thinking the same thing. I had this exact idea about year ago, called YouDanceLikeAFreak.com. I never followed through on it, but nice to know that other people are thinking the same thing.

]]> By: gman http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013875 gman Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:08:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013875 dance jam = fail. deadpool dance jam = fail.

deadpool

]]> By: steve http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013846 steve Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:13:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013846 dancejam 24 hours later: 4 new videos added all-time top video now has 879 views I hpoe I am wrong and it does take off, but so far, the only people who think this is cool are the VCs and some commenters above. maybe we can have a duncan riley v allen stern hyphy battle. or maybe investor v investor. come on Michael, throw down and take on the Hammer. dancejam 24 hours later:

4 new videos added
all-time top video now has 879 views

I hpoe I am wrong and it does take off, but so far, the only people who think this is cool are the VCs and some commenters above. maybe we can have a duncan riley v allen stern hyphy battle. or maybe investor v investor. come on Michael, throw down and take on the Hammer.

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013561 Chris Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:39:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013561 RE: #18 (My own post) Sorry. I should have looked around first. They all use the same (almost exact) TOS to shift the onus... the DMCA and Safe Harbor save the day. Anyway, it's Miller time..... umm, I mean Hammer time. RE: #18 (My own post)

Sorry. I should have looked around first. They all use the same (almost exact) TOS to shift the onus… the DMCA and Safe Harbor save the day.

Anyway, it’s Miller time….. umm, I mean Hammer time.

]]> By: Joel Strellner http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013309 Joel Strellner Sun, 02 Mar 2008 04:20:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013309 I am pleasantly surprised by it. I thought it was going to be failure when I first read about the concept, but I think it may actually have legs. Launching, even a beta, on a Saturday is a bad idea though. I am pleasantly surprised by it. I thought it was going to be failure when I first read about the concept, but I think it may actually have legs.

Launching, even a beta, on a Saturday is a bad idea though.

]]> By: exapted http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013279 exapted Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:35:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013279 I really like the battle meme. I reckon the interface is going to develop in a different direction from that of YouTube. I really like the battle meme. I reckon the interface is going to develop in a different direction from that of YouTube.

]]> By: AnonTroll http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013224 AnonTroll Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:00:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013224 MC who? MC who?

]]> By: Fail http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013189 Fail Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:55:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013189 $4.5 million pissed away. DanceJam is destined to fail. That is all. $4.5 million pissed away. DanceJam is destined to fail. That is all.

]]> By: Nat http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013133 Nat Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:29:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013133 This is ala Myspace for dance club, pretty cool idea. McHammer been a guess at GigaOm and share his idea on why he build this kind of website to promote Dance style or niche instead kid doing drug somewhere. 2 thumbs up for McHammer. Nat www.workersinc.com This is ala Myspace for dance club, pretty cool idea. McHammer been a guess at GigaOm and share his idea on why he build this kind of website to promote Dance style or niche instead kid doing drug somewhere.
2 thumbs up for McHammer.

Nat
http://www.workersinc.com

]]> By: B. Ackles http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013119 B. Ackles Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:10:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013119 Wicked Cool, Dance moves... then I saw you had to sign in to post a comment. I left immediately. Comments should be treated like a blog. Just a tip... Wicked Cool, Dance moves… then I saw you had to sign in to post a comment. I left immediately. Comments should be treated like a blog.

Just a tip…

]]> By: anon http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013103 anon Sat, 01 Mar 2008 22:49:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013103 This is the most ridiculous site I have ever seen. Dance battles? Really? This is the most ridiculous site I have ever seen. Dance battles? Really?

]]> By: Sam http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013100 Sam Sat, 01 Mar 2008 22:44:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013100 Love the slow motion toggle in the videos! Love the slow motion toggle in the videos!

]]> By: steve http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013042 steve Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:21:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013042 On the plus side, DanceJam has: 1) extended the battle meme in an entertaining way 2) raised a s***load of cash with noting more than an idea 3) allowed Arrington to invest so TC will pimp the site On the minus side, DanceJam has: 1) launched on a Saturday. the story will be dead by monday 2) launched with almost 0 content - the top video has 396 views right now despite the TC link 3) launched without any hot chicks (did #5 above even go to the site?) 4) allowed Arrington to invest. dude is blogging genius but he has bad angel karma Deadpool in 6 months. Sorry Michael. Better luck with Seesmic. On the plus side, DanceJam has:

1) extended the battle meme in an entertaining way
2) raised a s***load of cash with noting more than an idea
3) allowed Arrington to invest so TC will pimp the site

On the minus side, DanceJam has:

1) launched on a Saturday. the story will be dead by monday
2) launched with almost 0 content - the top video has 396 views right now despite the TC link
3) launched without any hot chicks (did #5 above even go to the site?)
4) allowed Arrington to invest. dude is blogging genius but he has bad angel karma

Deadpool in 6 months. Sorry Michael. Better luck with Seesmic.

]]> By: Jon Bischke http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013040 Jon Bischke Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:18:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013040 Kick-ass site. Really engaging (my girlfriend is addicted already). Kudos to Geoffrey and the gang at DanceJam. Kick-ass site. Really engaging (my girlfriend is addicted already). Kudos to Geoffrey and the gang at DanceJam.

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013038 Chris Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:17:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013038 Youtube commanded the bulk of the $1.6 billion payday on the back of copyright infringement. It is very convenient to throw legalese on the user. Hey! But in the mean time, I will take the money and it's valuation. Works for big corporations all the time. What's right and what's wrong is all arbitrary. Or so it may seem. Good luck to Dance Jam. Youtube commanded the bulk of the $1.6 billion payday on the back of copyright infringement. It is very convenient to throw legalese on the user. Hey! But in the mean time, I will take the money and it’s valuation.

Works for big corporations all the time.

What’s right and what’s wrong is all arbitrary. Or so it may seem.

Good luck to Dance Jam.

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013007 Chris Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:30:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2013007 It's cool. I wish I had thought of it. But I guess if anybody was going to do it, it would be Hammer. I have one question, though. How do user-submitted video sites deal with the copyright of the music in the videos? There are gobs of video sites. How come they (or their users) are not all involved in copyright infringement suits? I read DanceJam's terms of service. It seems like the legalese shifts all the responsibility either to the user (as if some kid with a webcam is going to secure the rights to a song before they include it in their video), or to the copyright owner (the infringement continues until the owner goes through the precise motions to halt it). Any copyright experts want to chime in? It’s cool. I wish I had thought of it. But I guess if anybody was going to do it, it would be Hammer.

I have one question, though.

How do user-submitted video sites deal with the copyright of the music in the videos? There are gobs of video sites. How come they (or their users) are not all involved in copyright infringement suits?

I read DanceJam’s terms of service. It seems like the legalese shifts all the responsibility either to the user (as if some kid with a webcam is going to secure the rights to a song before they include it in their video), or to the copyright owner (the infringement continues until the owner goes through the precise motions to halt it).

Any copyright experts want to chime in?

]]> By: steven http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2012979 steven Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:45:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2012979 Why not post these videos on YouTube and get 100000x more views? Why not post these videos on YouTube and get 100000x more views?

]]> By: HonestMall.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2012968 HonestMall.com Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:23:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2012968 Super happy about this being out! its kinda funny. a lot of re-packaging of youtube contentent. i wonder if this ever got too big they would dissalow them to keep using their videos. every one of these 12 of these videos are just imported over from youtube: http://www.dancejam.com/videos?with%5Blesson%5D=true&q=&x=38&y=9&order= Super happy about this being out!

its kinda funny. a lot of re-packaging of youtube contentent. i wonder if this ever got too big they would dissalow them to keep using their videos.

every one of these 12 of these videos are just imported over from youtube:
http://www.dancejam.com/videos.....amp;order=

]]> By: Dim Dave http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2012961 Dim Dave Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:12:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2012961 Why can't youtube just throw up a niche site too if it becomes popular, or am I thinking too much like microsoft? Why can’t youtube just throw up a niche site too if it becomes popular, or am I thinking too much like microsoft?

]]> By: bs http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2012925 bs Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:24:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2012925 wont touch youtube. wont touch youtube.

]]> By: Marzipan from Toledo http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2012901 Marzipan from Toledo Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:43:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/01/can-touch-this-dancejam-opens-to-the-public/#comment-2012901 Good stuff Mike. Seems the haters have gone into hiding for now. Looks good, I think it'll be a success. @9 unless you bootstrap something like this yourself, $4.5mm is needed so that the company is well capitalized to properly market itself, hire the right people, and get the product off the ground. Once it's off the ground, you want to be well capitalized enough to have time to raise another round without having your original investors holding a gun to your head. That is why you need $4.5MM. Good stuff Mike. Seems the haters have gone into hiding for now. Looks good, I think it’ll be a success.

@9 unless you bootstrap something like this yourself, $4.5mm is needed so that the company is well capitalized to properly market itself, hire the right people, and get the product off the ground.

Once it’s off the ground, you want to be well capitalized enough to have time to raise another round without having your original investors holding a gun to your head.

That is why you need $4.5MM.

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