February 28, 2008

Microsoft: The EU’s ATM Machine

Michael Arrington

272 comments »

The European Union just bought every one of their citizens a cup of coffee. Or at least, they’re giving them the equivalent. Their most recent fine against Micrsoft - a whopping $1.35 billion, will go directly into the EU’s budget. It works out to about $2.75 for every EU citizen.

Some notable publications are blinking, at, among other things, the size of the fine (a record), the possible lack of legal justification and the potential costs of doing business in Europe. The NYTimes said “The commission’s willingness to enforce vigorously its interpretation of what constitutes unfair competition potentially raises the costs of running a successful business in Europe for many American companies. It might pose problems for companies like Apple, Intel and Qualcomm, whose market dominance in online music downloads, computer chips and mobile phone technology is also being scrutinized by the European Commission.” The UK’s Guardian went further, saying “But some legal experts questioned the EU’s move. Denis Waelbroeck, competition partner at the lawyers Ashurst in Brussels, said: “While such a fine will no doubt do wonders for the commission’s image as a tough regulator, some might consider it unfair, not least since the commission refused to tell Microsoft what would be a ‘reasonable’ amount to charge for patent licences despite being asked several times.”"

This isn’t a crushing blow to Microsoft by any means. It’s equal to about two weeks of operating profit. And they have a long history of paying fines for antitrust abuses - $750 million to AOL/Time-Warner in 2003, $1.1 billion to California in 2003, $536 million to Novell in 2004, $1.6 billion to Sun in 2004, $775 million to IBM in 2005, $776 million to Real Networks in 2005. Etc.

But EU fines against Microsoft over the years now total €1.68 billion. And they are far from done - last month the EU opened two new cases against Microsoft, on behalf of a group of European software companies. This is despite the fact that Microsoft is routinely raked over the coals by U.S. regulators for the same issues the Europeans bring up.

The last time the EU visited the Microsoft ATM machine, a few congresspeople sent them a letter telling them to back off, that it was their job to police U.S. companies against antitrust abuses. That letter pretty much went nowhere.

EU’s chief Microsoft-taxer, errr, antitrust chief, Neelie Kroes, seems determined to make a name for herself by filling the EUs coffers. But perhaps it’s time for Europe to stop looking for the Microsoft handouts, and start promoting actual capitalism within their borders. Google, Apple and Mozilla, among others (including Germany’s SAP), seem perfectly able to compete against Microsoft without crying for help every time users decline to use their products.

Those who can, do. Those who can’t apparently live in Brussels and engage in a legalized shakedown of Microsoft every couple of years.

Watch out, Google. You’re next.

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  1. Andre de Cavaignac

    Totally agree. The EU has never been happy with the US dominance of the tech market, and Microsoft is an easy scapegoat. Most developers should know at this point that Microsoft has made a big push towards being more open (the new Office doc formats are completely documented and they just released documentation on the old formats)…

    I’m happy to see at least one of the more web-centric blogs take a more balanced approach to this topic. Microsoft does yield its weight around occasionally, but the EU clearly has some resentment over US technical prowess.

  2. Adwait Ullal

    In response, the US Govt. should ban all EU firms from operating here. But I am sure Google will oppose that!

  3. Rick

    Possibly, my favorite TechCrunch article ever.

  4. Martin

    To suggest that a $15 trillion/a economy is enriching itself by a one-time charge of a billion and change strikes me as a bit daft. Perhaps more than a bit.

    The simplest explanation usually being the correct one, perhaps this could be explained by saying that the EU is a much tougher regulator and MS’ couldn’t get past them like they got past the lax American regulators, then support it by evidence of how tougher the EU has been in a number of other industries (emission, chemical toxins, gm foods, mobile providers etc).

    But no, let’s go with the far-flung theory about a mighty EU vs US showdown featuring greedy evil beaurocrats, envy, jelousy, corruption… Kroes is a woman, perhaps you should’ve thrown in a love intrigue in the story as well?

  5. studs

    @Rick: agreed.

    @Martin: “the EU is a much tougher regulator” = “many countries in the EU border on socialism”

  6. osciva

    @Martin: Good point.

    Correct me if I’m wrong; but if someone from country A commits a crime in country B, then that someone is prosecuted in country B. That fact does not change just because that someone also commits crime in country A.

  7. Doug

    I second #3.

  8. Axl

    Maybe if Microsoft start behaving they don’t have to keep buying people coffee.

  9. Your Daddy

    So is this an order to pay or can they still wiggle out of it? I’m sure its just a part of doing business and they’ll get it back somewhere else like charging the world $1.00 more for Windows7 - it’s all good BillyG!

  10. Steel

    I for one am sick of the EU wielding a stick over U.S. companies and from my point of view, Microsoft should just say fcukem and not offer any of it’s products to the European countries. Let all the EU snobs find their own cash cows. I am so sick of the U.S. being treated like the bad step child of Europe. Fcukem.

  11. Michael Arrington

    anyone want to come up with a better image for the post, please send it to me and I’ll credit you with a link. An ATM machine properly photoshopped with the microsoft logo, for example.

  12. http://yooflix.com

    With that kind of money, they could have bought cash down…all the startups covered by TC in the last 6 months.

    not kidding .. :-)

    http://yooflix.com/ShowVideo.a.....xOp5mBY9IY

  13. Matt S

    Well said Mike. This is an arbitrary, retroactive tax by an unelected official. I guess they need the $$ to gild their buggy whips or something.

  14. Steel

    @Martin

    One point to conceed , ie: the U.S. being lax regulators, or else the mighty Google would already have their butts between a rock and a hard place.

  15. Marc

    What’s this? Tech Crunch showing some anti-European sentiment :o Never.

  16. Jonathan Street

    @Martin: Agree completely.

    To put this in perspective the EU budget

    http://ec.europa.eu/budget/index_en.htm is almost 130 billion. As such fines against Microsoft ‘over the years’ amounts to only a little over 1%. The coffers are hardly awash with Microsoft fines.

    I also take issue with the cup of coffee for $2.75. Technically possible but only if you just want a plain (small) coffee and are filling to shop around.

  17. Bodero

    This article is 100% spot on, Michael, which is why we’d never see anything like it on Slashdot or the like.

  18. MrL

    If Microsoft wants to make buisiness on our soil, it has to comply with EU laws just like EU companies comply to the US laws on your soil. End of the story.

  19. Haluk Akin

    There is a major difference in how Europe and US sees anti-trust.

    US is built on a capitalist system. Everyone living is supposed to produce efficiently and contribute to the economy.

    In Europe, it’s a different story. Many countries have much more socialist foundations. Therefore the governments have more role in overseeing the competition in the economy.

  20. fukeo

    Hold on, didn’t Bush ban all those European online gambling companies last year?

  21. Marc

    Do all Tech Crunch editors hate anything slightly left of their republic ideologies?

  22. Luc

    @martin: Well put.
    @Steel: The EU wields a stick over anybody doing business in the EU. Get used to it, you do the same on your turf. Nobody forces Microsoft to do business in the EU but if they do, they’d better adhere to the rules.

    By the way, you don’t get much of a coffee for $2.75 nowadays, not here in Iraklio, Crete anyway. Pettiest article I have read here so far.

  23. Steel

    Maybe the U.S. should start charging 100K per green card.

  24. wraith808

    @Jonathan Street

    I don’t know where you’re shopping for coffee that’s more than $2.75 a cup… O.o

  25. JeffC

    Can’t think of anything to add to this spot-on post. Well said, Michael, well said. Oh, except the EU’s actions against Microsoft remind me of the screeching by some in our own country for a windfall profits tax on the oil industry.

  26. THX

    What law did they break MrL?

  27. Jean Moniatte

    Whatever TC.

    With the US subprime mortgage mess, I do not think that the timing is good to deliver the “Start promoting actual capitalism” message. Maybe tougher regulations would have allowed to avoid it.

  28. Nick Wright

    @23
    Coffee starts at $2.50 here in London and if you really like it strong and creamy you can buy a cup for $6- that just from the major chains!

    http://www.exiva.com
    share your life, treasure the privacy

  29. Joe

    Hey what can you do, Microsoft is an obvious target, I think we should go after some big European companies here.

    Maybe Shell or SAP.

  30. Sébastien

    Hey ! It has nothing to do with MS being US !
    France Telecom is another major “ATM” for EU… And France Telecom (owner of the Orange mobile brand) is not american, as far as I know !

    Stop publishing this kind of “half information”.

  31. Marc

    Seriously, this article is full of Anti-European sentiment.

    “The EU’s ATM Machine” Oh, nice start!

    “EU visited the Microsoft ATM machine” How witty.

    “EU’s chief Microsoft-taxer, errr, antitrust chief” Hahahahaha! It’s funny because you deliberately said something and pretending it was an accident. Hilarious!

    “and start promoting actual capitalism within their borders” Way to go, you have actually now said the EU doesn’t support capitalism.

    Oh, and should I mention the picture? Calling the European Union and Europeans as well, leeches.

    WAY TO GO. Who knew Tech Crunch should only be read by Americans.

    –Europeans not welcome–

  32. Jonathan Street

    @wraith808: I’m not a coffee drinker but out and about in Edinburgh the cheapest I see is 80p. That’s ~$1.60 in the cheapest diner I know about.

    I’ve seen £2.95 charged in half-decent restaurants. That’s getting on for $4, again for a basic cup.

    Nick, #27, sounds like he knows his coffee better than me but that’s my experience.

  33. Random Guy

    Michael Arrington, you are my new hero. You put in words what I have been thinking in my head.

  34. eelco

    Anyone who thinks Microsoft does not have a monopoly or two in Europe should look again. Really.
    Except for design companies, you will not find a single company that has desktop machines running anything else than Windows. While that is fine, it makes it impossible for any other company to enter that market. The only thing one can do about it, is making sure the de facto standards are open.

    Neelie Kroes is doing a good job.

  35. Jean Moniatte

    #32: your head must hurt :-)

  36. MrL

    They broke no laws, we just wanted a cup of coffee on the back of a US company.

  37. AC

    If you sell in the EU, you work and sell by EU laws; therefore you are subject to EU laws and EU regulators. If you sell in the US, you work and sell by US laws; therefore you are subject to US laws and US regulators.

    If a US company could trade with impunity in the EU or vice-versa then a comapny could trade with impunity in another country. Neither side would agree that that is acceptable.

    In UK coffee is aprox $4.18 (£2.10)

  38. dataphage

    “But perhaps it’s time for Europe to stop looking for the Microsoft handouts, and start promoting actual capitalism within their borders.”

    Or maybe large American corporates should treat local laws less like guidelines and more like legislation. Stop whining.

    Bloody colonials.

  39. Random Guy

    @17 - MrL

    What we are saying is “change the freakin law”

  40. NotMyName

    Come on, Michael, how can such a respected tech blogger like you write an article about a $1.3bn fine without even explaining why Microsoft got fined?

    Oh wait.. gratuitous EU bashing! Bashing France on twitter wasn’t good enough? Not France or the UE’s fault if you weren’t invited to TED, you know?

  41. Pat

    What a group of nationalist guys you are !
    Anyone talking bad about one of your american firms is evil ?

    Ok. Continue to think USA is perfect and the rest of the world is bad. You’ll sleep well tonight.

  42. MrL

    We’re too busy drinking coffee to change our laws right now, come back later.

  43. Michael

    This is probably the worst article I ever read on TechCrunch.

    Unprofessional. Disappointing.

  44. Tony Arringa

    How about some random bombing over Europe now?

  45. EH

    More like “Microsoft is the EU’s Frank Lucas.”

    I think it’s funny that people are throwing “socialism” around like that should be enough to horrify people. Try leaving the country once in your life.

  46. Paolo

    Sincerely, I expected better from Techcrunch. These considerations and many comments are based just on ignorance about what EU is and how it works. And about ignoring facts. EU does not fine just Microsoft or US firms. EU has a set of laws which every of 25 sovereign european countries accepted to abide to. EU fines whomever don’t respect them: US firms, European firms and even European Governments when they don’t respect the rules as we in Italy have come to learn way too well. Just to talk about some cited US firm, Apple with its iPhone circumvented a few european laws, but then obliged to court’s rule and was not fined. Microsoft didn’t (repeatedly) and was fined. It is that simple.

    Sincerely it is ghastly to read still in 2008 considerations about some european countries being “socialist” and confounding national governments behaviour and attributions with EU ones. We are no longer in 1980.

  47. Gino

    How to write a crap :
    fucuse on a reduced part of a fact and hide other related facts.

    It can’t be burried ? ;-)

  48. eelco

    A lot of comments here seem to suggest this to be a result of socialist government. That confuses me. Since when is pursuing free trade (which Kroes does) considered socialist?

    Protectionism, that would be a socialist approach, but believe me, Kroes hates protectionism. I bet she wishes she had the authority to stop the support the farmers get in Europe. She would, without a doubt.

  49. Sébastien

    @ Tony Arringa

    what a nice lesson of peace and liberty !

    Hmmm… Is not US the country of sue ?
    ah ah
    You morons.

  50. Steve

    Michael,

    Don’t listen to the negative comments above - your article is spot on. Having lived in the UK for the last 12 years I can say with certainty that if it is American and it is in even the slightest way objectionable the UK or the EU will find a way to extract their pound of flesh. That is not to say I am defending MSFT at all, but I am merely commenting that one never sees Dassault or SAP with these actions taken against them by the EU regulators, irrespective of those company’s business practices in their particular verticals…

  51. Simon

    New picture? http://scribblewiki.com/images/microsoftatm.png

  52. Dimitrij

    Micheal,
    You seem to make case the EU fines to MS are unfair. Why?
    You think that anti-trust laws are a bad idea?
    You think that EU laws don’t serve the purpose of preventing monopolistic activities?
    You think EU law has been unfairly applied to MS?
    I would appreciate you point of view on the above rather than sweeping generalizations about EU and EU attitude to capitalism.
    I know you are a much better journalist and blogger than this
    I look forward to more insightful posts.
    Dimitrij

    PS
    On the capitalism point “maybe” it is not the best time to teach lessons, with USD at 1.51 EUR and having lost its status of sole world reserve currency, sub-prime crisis, massive external deficit and EU growing, again, more than US in 2008…

  53. Pepe

    Europe is sick. It is the modern East Germany.

    Who will tear down our walls?

  54. Kevyn

    Well, as an avid Techcrunch fan for years I’m seriously disappointed by this blatant anti-European, Pro-Microsoft article. Shall I take it Techcrunch no longer has a neutral point of view.

    Microsoft were originally fined for breaking EU competition laws - dont sell in the EU if you don’t want to abide by the laws. The EU said if Microsoft does not comply with their ruling then they will fine them every day until they do. Microsoft ignored EU ruling so the EU has fined them every day until they did. Also note, Microsoft is the first and only company to ignore a EU competition ruling.

    I can’t see anything wrong with that but fine, be pro-Microsoft, but at least be objective and present both sides of the argument instead of just EU bashing.

  55. Gino

    I think you north-americans are too focused on yourself.
    I understand the whole world don’t like you.

    It won’t be thanks to north americans if one day world is peaceful.

  56. Matt S

    A number of people keep saying the Microsoft needs to abide by EU laws. Fair enough. But what laws are they accused of breaking? What law spells out “reasonable prices”, which was the basis of the current fine? Which law defines “sufficient documentation”?

    Would love to see those statutes.

    That’s the problem with all this, the laws don’t exist. This didn’t happen in a court of law. It’s based in the opaque judgment of an unelected commission.

  57. Gino

    “I can’t see anything wrong with that but fine, be pro-Microsoft, but at least be objective and present both sides of the argument instead of just EU bashing.”

    I think it’s better for sponsors to be so pro-american.

    Here stops independence of journalism.

  58. MrL

    Also in the news : http://tinyurl.com/3cp7uq

    US company Nike beats EU company Adidas to sponsor the French international soccer team (!). But yeah, we really bash US companies whenever we can just for fun.

  59. Michael Arrington

    so yesterday i took a shot at microsoft sharepoint v. google. I also cheered when yahoo said no to MS. I think my neutrality v. that company remains intact. But I will continue to fight for a europe that produces more Skypes and Last.fms (and even piratebay’s). but not for a europe that insists on promoting their own industries through shakedowns of US companies.

  60. Michael Neel

    Michael, I’m glad to see some one post what many are thinking. The EU is bordering on extortion at this point.

    The EU decides you broke some rules. It tells you what they were after you broke them (or after your competitors go to the EU and complain enough).

    Then it decides you need to be “more open” It doesn’t say what that is, but don’t worry, you’ll fail to meet it, and you’ll take too long as well - both parts decided by the EU, but not told to you.

    Along the way you get to do some really dumb things for the EU - like release Windows XP without a media player, and watch sales of the product stay at zero, because the EU doesn’t care what people want.

    You could open up everything thing you do, every format, and every protocol. Establish flat rate pricing on patents the EU(!) issued to you. Even make the rate free for non-profit uses. But you’ll just get sued again.

    It will never be enough, but don’t sweat it - just jack up the price of software in the EU a few bucks to cover it. The people over there are used to it - hidden taxes.

  61. John

    That’s actually two cups of coffee… At least I get mine for $ 1.20 in Berlin.

  62. Andy

    So when US acts against none-US airlines such as BA for fuel surcharge fixing (and facing possible massive fines), despite also being chased by EU regulators it is perfectly fine. But as a soon as the role is reveresed it’s not okay?

    I live in the UK and am no fan of the EU, and would like to see the UK leave it. But this article is quite frankly poorly researched, and to suggest the EU requires Microsoft’s money to top up it’s buget is quite frankly offensive. Many Americans don’t seem to realise it’s this kind of attitude whereby the “US can do what it wants, where it wants - but you can’t do the same as us” that turns people against the US because it’s such an arrogant attitude.

    If you really wanted to you could have attacked the fine on it’s merits (or lack thereof) or the details of the fine and why Microsoft were fined; but you didn’t - maybe you couldn’t - thats why so many in the EU will find this article very offensive, because you’ve used the event to attack the EU rather than the EU’s fine, any European would accept a well structured argument against the fine, which this isn’t.

  63. Bob Jones

    The damn Europeans, setting their own laws and expecting people who operate in those countries to follow them - its unAmerican, why do they not take the lead of the Iraqis? When Washington says private contractors are immune, the Iraqis let them kill whoever they want - they don’t pull them in front of silly Baghdad courts … they understand the rule of law, what America says goes … its the best system, if there was a better system - we’d have adopted it and said we made it by now, why can’t Europe see that? I’ve had enough with that f*cking country, always thinking it nows how to run Europe better - Hitler thought that, we were right, he’s dead and you’re not all speaking German - get over it, let us rule you and you’ll be richer, you won’t need to steal money from companies who operate on the sly - you’ll have our own companies doing that, funding your economy, to buy some* of you the health care you need!

    *Healthcare for poor people not included. Actual treatment sold seperatley.

  64. Patrick

    Ok, so this article is to get people worked up and get the comments going.

    Poor MS.
    Someone please pass me a violin - but make it a small one.
    I am going to start a Facebook group - “Send The Hat Around For Bill”

    You think the fine is bad - you should live in Europe, we have to pay taxes to keep these loons going.

  65. Paul Collins

    “ATM” alerady contains the word “machine”, so there’s no need to repeat it.

  66. Robin Wauters

    Great article.

    One thing though; as a true “Dutchwoman”, I doubt Kroes lives in Brussels :)

  67. Michael Arrington

    Paul - true, but it’s become common to write it that way.

  68. Sébastien

    @ Michael Arrington

    so why, if you’re objective, don’t talk about EU fines against european companies ?

  69. Bob Jones

    Michael Arrington, was Europe promoting our industries when they investigated (and continue to) Intel for market crimes against AMD? When did AMD become European? Or investigating Japanese DRAM producers? What about all the rulings against European companies? I guess its too much to expect Americans to know any story that doesn’t directly effect them and let them wave a flag about.

    Did Microsoft break European rules? Who rules Europe? I’m sorry, but you don’t - shame I know.

  70. Michael Arrington

    thanks to Ali Shiravi for the updated image.

  71. eelco

    Now look what you’ve done: you united the Europeans. That’s a first, well, second.

    For the good people of America that actually start believing she is out to get them: Kroes (Dutch) just fined Heineken (Dutch) 219 million euro (that is a lot of dollars) for participating in a cartel. Grolsch (Dutch) and Bavaria (Dutch) were fined 32 and 23 million.

    That is around 5 beers for every Dutch citizen. Cheers!

  72. Michael Arrington

    hah. more images coming in. Thanks Scribblewiki:

  73. Ludovic Dubost

    I don’t understand ? California fined M$ for 1.1 Billion, Europe for 1.6 Billion. California’s economy is around the same size as France, not Europe. So what’s wrong with it ? Only Californians should get some payback for M$ malpractices ?

    If the fines continue to come, maybe the real problem is that they are not big enough because M$ prefers the fines to changing their practices. Oh but the US stopped giving fines, right… why so ?

    I guest you are happy.. a nice Europe-US flame war is good for page views.

  74. Sean

    no photoshop at work, just simple copy and paste. http://up2u.net/ms_atm.jpg

  75. Michael Arrington

    and for those of you who missed the first one:

  76. Richard

    Hm.. This is a provocative, populistic and frankly uneducated article. Given that there is so much anti-US and anti-EU in the respective regions I would have expected something better from TechCrunch.

    I am very disappointed.

    I know that I will never respect TechCrunch the way I used to. That US-nationalism would go this far is a quite surprising. I think someone is in a bad mood because their currency is falling.. Free competition when it is american companies is it? Well, all the major record labels are US, and they are oligopolizing the whole world, and yet, no other country than the US seem to prosecute them for their monopolies.. We are instead reducing our democratic freedoms to help support those US profits. So stop whining! (right to not be overheard without a warrant etc.). No one wants to go back to something similar to the 1950’s with Hoover and all that. Not in US nor in my country.

    Richard,
    Osaka, Japan

  77. Bob Jones

    eelco, I agree about uniting Europeans - I absolutely detest the EU most of the time, its petty control over my country bugs me … but when I meet an American, it usually subsides for a while.

    Maybe the EU is anti-American, it could actually rival them and they wouldn’t be able to do whatever they want where ever. Its no threat to American business who follow the rules of the land they operate in though, I imagine Chinese companies show respect for the rule of law - but then again Arrington wants Chinese law ignored in China …

  78. Jerome

    First time I ever replied to Michael post. I am truly disappointed by the underlying message along these lines : Europeans suck at technology, that is why they impose tax… as a revenge!
    No Michael, that is not true, mostly unfair and is giving a real bad image on the impartial point of view of the hard work your putting on your website.

    European companies are fined everyday by th EU Commission for not compying with rules. MSFT has been playing around these rules for such a long time, that it is rather healthy to see that there are still regulatory bodies that are watching over their head.

    If I have to take an analogy, the FDA allowed GMO food to be comercialized to the public in the US a few years ago and nobody now truly knows what is in their plates for dinner. In Europe, the debate is still going on on the fact we don’t know the effects of these modified organisms for people’s health.

    It’s a matter of culture and behaviour. US companies are moving fast, with lots of energy but sometimes acting like bad kids. European companies are smaller, move slower because they tend to go deep in their reflexion before moving forward.

    None of these behaviors are perfect, but for each there are pros and cons.

    US do not suck nor EU, so please remain objective so we can still love reading you everyday.

  79. Michael Arrington

    Jerome - don’t even get me started on GMO foods and Europe. People cry out in protest while a billion people go hungry every day.

    and, I’ll never be objective. I’m not a machine.

  80. Patrick

    Don’t forget VW who were fined $82.2 million a few years back.
    That’ll probably only buy a wiper.

    Love the updated image.
    Can anyone tell me where the ATM is located - short of cash right now.

  81. Sebastian

    I’m outraged. Michael; do you know that your TechCrunch/Twitter account has been hacked and someone (extremely childish) has written “@loiclemeur - whatever. I’m erasing you from my friends” in your Twitter account.

    Wauw - preschool flashback!

    And your stupid pro-us post above is sincerely deranged. I know that you are in the bubble-business, but try to imagine a society where not _everything_ is about building Fortune500 personal wealths… But also valuing and protecting decent business ethics.

  82. Dimitrij

    @58 ??????????

    Michael,
    you are just not informed on this. Economic journalism is not your forte outside tech.
    I would suggest you do some home work before writing things like “Europe that insists on promoting their own industries through shakedowns of us companies”
    The techcrunch we love is informed and professional. This is amateurish
    The level of the discussion is just embarrassing.
    Dimitrij

  83. Louie

    @50 - I like your pic, especially fitting that the screen is blue on something M$ branded. :P

    In all honesty, as a Seattle resident and software developer myself I truly want to see Microsoft be successful. But c’mon guys, conduct your business according to the regulations of the region or simply don’t do business there. Microsoft is entering _their_ market and so we have to play by their rules, just as I’d expect foreign companies to do when they enter US markets.

  84. Fake Alan Greenspan

    “It is a world in which actions designed to limit competition are branded as criminal when taken by businessmen, yet praised as “enlightened” when initiated by the government.”

  85. Michael Arrington

    hah. love the pro-Euro comments. Soon you’ll all be asleep though.

  86. Bob Jones

    Wow, he’s really clever - a joke about timezones, still I guess we should be glad he knows there is a time difference. I do wonder, does he know that the main timezone (GMT) doesn’t originate in America, damn those socialist timezones!

  87. eelco

    We’ll rise early tomorrow…

  88. Jorg van Gent

    10 points for most populist post!

    What exactly is the problem with fining companies that break the law? With the money we are spending on MSFT products, a cup of coffee seems a great deal for Redmont.

    Little more fundamental foundation for your EU competition trashing please, Michael

  89. Patrick

    Sorry, we employ a few people in