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	<title>Comments on: GrandCentral Homeless Stunt Worked So Well It&#8217;s Time For An Encore</title>
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		<title>By: GrandCentral To (Finally) Launch As Google Voice. It’s Very, Very Good. &#8211; Scattered</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrandCentral To (Finally) Launch As Google Voice. It’s Very, Very Good. &#8211; Scattered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] million in 2007, hasn’t been in the news much lately. Other than a few good natured jabs at their marketing gimmicks and coverage of outages, that is. Get ready for that to change as the service prepares for a public [...]</description>
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		<title>By: My Google Voice Wishlist Including Google Voice For The Homeless &#124; But You're A Girl</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2856628</link>
		<dc:creator>My Google Voice Wishlist Including Google Voice For The Homeless &#124; But You're A Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they must keep calling into or they risk losing the mailbox.  Michael Arrington over at Techcrunch poked fun of this offering, dismissing it as marketing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Google Voice: Voice Transcription &#171; j e e l c h r i s t i n e</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google Voice: Voice Transcription &#171; j e e l c h r i s t i n e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] million in 2007, hasn’t been in the news much lately. Other than a few good natured jabs at their marketing gimmicks and coverage of outages, that is. Get ready for that to change as the service prepares for a public [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Grand Central To (Finally) Launch As Google Voice. It&#8217;s Very, Very Good.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grand Central To (Finally) Launch As Google Voice. It&#8217;s Very, Very Good.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] million in 2007, hasn’t been in the news much lately. Other than a few good natured jabs at their marketing gimmicks and coverage of outages, that is. Get ready for that to change as the service prepares for a public [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Are we a bunch of numbers? &#171; Ricky Wong&#8217;s blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2391590</link>
		<dc:creator>Are we a bunch of numbers? &#171; Ricky Wong&#8217;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was intrigued with Google&#8217;s announcement that they would provide free phone numbers to San Francisco&#8217;s homeless community via Grand [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Google Grand Central is shutting down and closing shop !!! &#124; My Blog Posts</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2314624</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Grand Central is shutting down and closing shop !!! &#124; My Blog Posts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 05:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] able to receive any calls. Apr 13, 2008, 1:25 PM - In context    Michael Arrington / TechCrunch: GrandCentral Homeless Stunt Worked So Well It&#8217;s Time For An Encore — Most companies target early adopters with their new products, hoping those users will tell all [...]</description>
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		<title>By: nixon the hand &#187; Blog Archive &#187; google gives free voicemail to sanfran homeless</title>
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		<dc:creator>nixon the hand &#187; Blog Archive &#187; google gives free voicemail to sanfran homeless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pardon the extended copy/paste - i have Homework. [edit followup: techcrunch sez this stunt is lame!] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pittsburgh Web Design &#187; Cagintranet Web Design - Web Designer, Developer, Graphic Artist and Web 2.0 Guru &#187; Wordpress Tip: Easy Notification for an Updated Post</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pittsburgh Web Design &#187; Cagintranet Web Design - Web Designer, Developer, Graphic Artist and Web 2.0 Guru &#187; Wordpress Tip: Easy Notification for an Updated Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Some blogs put a simple paragraph like this at the either the top or bottom of the original post. Using this as your primary notification fails in terms of it&#8217;s usability for your readers. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Mathson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2014799</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Mathson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to GC for doing what they are doing.  Project CARE is worth an announcement any time of the year.

I have been doing some silly speculating on what is going on with GC: http://keenpath.com/archives/2008/02/whats-around-the-corner-for-googles-grandcentral/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to GC for doing what they are doing.  Project CARE is worth an announcement any time of the year.</p>
<p>I have been doing some silly speculating on what is going on with GC: <a href="http://keenpath.com/archives/2008/02/whats-around-the-corner-for-googles-grandcentral/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://keenpath.com/archives/2008/02/whats-around-the-corner-for-googles-grandcentral/'>http://keenpath...s-grandcentral/</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2013288</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like what GC&#039;s doing...I hope it helps...</description>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2013025</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow I don&#039;t get it. Google is giving away virtual phone numbers to homeless people. 

Serious, I&#039;m thinking all day long about it... and just don&#039;t understand why a homeless person from Frisco would want a phone number in Houston. 

Where exactly is the sense? People who doesn&#039;t have a home, a place to sleep and probably not even 1 dollar in their picket... HOW would they sign up for GrandCentral or edit GC&#039;s settings? :&#124; 

Yes, sure they spent their last dime for a cyber cafe... 

Like one other said before... if Google would give away cell phones to homeless people, THAT would be a great idea, but a GC account sounds RIDICOLOUS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow I don&#8217;t get it. Google is giving away virtual phone numbers to homeless people. </p>
<p>Serious, I&#8217;m thinking all day long about it&#8230; and just don&#8217;t understand why a homeless person from Frisco would want a phone number in Houston. </p>
<p>Where exactly is the sense? People who doesn&#8217;t have a home, a place to sleep and probably not even 1 dollar in their picket&#8230; HOW would they sign up for GrandCentral or edit GC&#8217;s settings? <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Yes, sure they spent their last dime for a cyber cafe&#8230; </p>
<p>Like one other said before&#8230; if Google would give away cell phones to homeless people, THAT would be a great idea, but a GC account sounds RIDICOLOUS!</p>
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		<title>By: Ovande Furtado</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2012481</link>
		<dc:creator>Ovande Furtado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 05:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>give me a break michael,

at the end, it does not matter whether or not Google is trying to promote GC or not. The important thing is that the service is being useful for homeless people. 

These people are in need of everything and the only thing you can think is to judge those who provide them with some help? It does not matter how the help is arriving... what matters is that the help IS arriving...

BWT, although i like the content of this site, it will not matter if you give them access to your site for &quot;free&quot;. They are not much interested in the content of these articles, but rather to find a way to answer a phone call from a potential employer that will help them to get back on track with their lives...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>give me a break michael,</p>
<p>at the end, it does not matter whether or not Google is trying to promote GC or not. The important thing is that the service is being useful for homeless people. </p>
<p>These people are in need of everything and the only thing you can think is to judge those who provide them with some help? It does not matter how the help is arriving&#8230; what matters is that the help IS arriving&#8230;</p>
<p>BWT, although i like the content of this site, it will not matter if you give them access to your site for &#8220;free&#8221;. They are not much interested in the content of these articles, but rather to find a way to answer a phone call from a potential employer that will help them to get back on track with their lives&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Albertson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2012155</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Albertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.  I work for Community Voice Mail, the nonprofit referenced in the original post that has been providing free voice mail to homeless and &quot;phoneless&quot; people around the U.S. since 1993.  We&#039;re actually really excited about Google&#039;s announcement, because it means that more people who can&#039;t afford a phone will have access to at least a phone number.  The FCC says that nearly 6 million households are without telephone service in the U.S., and we know from experience that having a phone number to write on a job application or to give to a health care worker/social worker can mean the difference between access to resources or continued isolation.  To us, a voice mail box is an efficient, effective means to obtain those &quot;fundamental basic needs&quot; that Audrey (#67) mentions.  If you&#039;re seeking a job that may result in shelter, food, water, safety, etc. and you don&#039;t have a number to give to a potential employer, those &quot;basics&quot; are a lot harder to get.

Google has a voice product, and now they&#039;re offering it directly to some homeless individuals and to agencies in San Francisco who can give it to their clients.  It&#039;s a good model (we&#039;ve been using it for more than a decade!), and it will have an impact.  I think having a large, smart, innovative company putting some focus on this is a very good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.  I work for Community Voice Mail, the nonprofit referenced in the original post that has been providing free voice mail to homeless and &#8220;phoneless&#8221; people around the U.S. since 1993.  We&#8217;re actually really excited about Google&#8217;s announcement, because it means that more people who can&#8217;t afford a phone will have access to at least a phone number.  The FCC says that nearly 6 million households are without telephone service in the U.S., and we know from experience that having a phone number to write on a job application or to give to a health care worker/social worker can mean the difference between access to resources or continued isolation.  To us, a voice mail box is an efficient, effective means to obtain those &#8220;fundamental basic needs&#8221; that Audrey (#67) mentions.  If you&#8217;re seeking a job that may result in shelter, food, water, safety, etc. and you don&#8217;t have a number to give to a potential employer, those &#8220;basics&#8221; are a lot harder to get.</p>
<p>Google has a voice product, and now they&#8217;re offering it directly to some homeless individuals and to agencies in San Francisco who can give it to their clients.  It&#8217;s a good model (we&#8217;ve been using it for more than a decade!), and it will have an impact.  I think having a large, smart, innovative company putting some focus on this is a very good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2012076</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe how divided we all are on this news stunt - I think we&#039;re all on the same page that the premise is great, and understand that a number is important to get the homeless call backs for employment. This stunt just goes back to self-promotion and personally i think my pet peeve is that we need to focus on FUNDAMENTAL BASIC NEEDS (redundant) such as health, food, water, shelter .. literacy - before we give away free VOICEMAIL - it just seems backwards to me. And honestly as a PR professional, it blows me away that mainstream media continues to cover every single move Google makes and yet won&#039;t give us the time of day to hear what other small companies are doing that are really making a difference.

Happy Friday All!

- Audrey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe how divided we all are on this news stunt &#8211; I think we&#8217;re all on the same page that the premise is great, and understand that a number is important to get the homeless call backs for employment. This stunt just goes back to self-promotion and personally i think my pet peeve is that we need to focus on FUNDAMENTAL BASIC NEEDS (redundant) such as health, food, water, shelter .. literacy &#8211; before we give away free VOICEMAIL &#8211; it just seems backwards to me. And honestly as a PR professional, it blows me away that mainstream media continues to cover every single move Google makes and yet won&#8217;t give us the time of day to hear what other small companies are doing that are really making a difference.</p>
<p>Happy Friday All!</p>
<p>- Audrey</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2011970</link>
		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse,
   Thanks for response. I have obviously not worked with the homeless so don&#039;t have any ideas about homeless people talking to lenders, bankers, landlords and employers.
    I am not a person who hates or has any negative feelings about homeless people. Just the mere fact that they are homeless makes me conclude that they do not have money to get a place to rent and live, which also means that they do not have a job so I would assume the first act of generosity would be to help them get jobs and help them earn money. (Maybe GC can hire them for stuff that they can afford them to pay). I would have done that first.

Thanks
SG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse,<br />
   Thanks for response. I have obviously not worked with the homeless so don&#8217;t have any ideas about homeless people talking to lenders, bankers, landlords and employers.<br />
    I am not a person who hates or has any negative feelings about homeless people. Just the mere fact that they are homeless makes me conclude that they do not have money to get a place to rent and live, which also means that they do not have a job so I would assume the first act of generosity would be to help them get jobs and help them earn money. (Maybe GC can hire them for stuff that they can afford them to pay). I would have done that first.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
SG</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Farmer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2011899</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@62:

Talk to someone who works with the homeless.  Not having a phone number you can give to lenders, banks, landlords, potential employers, etc. is a huge barrier.

Many homeless do have access to phones at places like homeless shelters, pay phones, or a pay-as-you-go cellphone (which usually don&#039;t come with *free* voicemail).

@63:

That is was free is inconsequential -- do you expect a homeless person to ferret out a private beta invite and sign up at grandcentral.com?  Remember that many homeless people have mental and physical health issues.

Google has the image and heft to make this happen.  Lots of smaller NPOs have tried this but found it difficult to maintain the service.  I know of at least two organizations here in SF that had to stop for budgetary reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@62:</p>
<p>Talk to someone who works with the homeless.  Not having a phone number you can give to lenders, banks, landlords, potential employers, etc. is a huge barrier.</p>
<p>Many homeless do have access to phones at places like homeless shelters, pay phones, or a pay-as-you-go cellphone (which usually don&#8217;t come with *free* voicemail).</p>
<p>@63:</p>
<p>That is was free is inconsequential &#8212; do you expect a homeless person to ferret out a private beta invite and sign up at grandcentral.com?  Remember that many homeless people have mental and physical health issues.</p>
<p>Google has the image and heft to make this happen.  Lots of smaller NPOs have tried this but found it difficult to maintain the service.  I know of at least two organizations here in SF that had to stop for budgetary reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2011896</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@55 Bryan

Bravo. As another early adopter of GC, they have been real slacking, despite their promises, since the Google acquisition. To come out with this refried press release is insulting.

GC- I am all for charity and see the value of the concept, but let&#039;s focus on the core business here and move beyond 2 years ago. I feel like I am stuck in a LOST time shift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@55 Bryan</p>
<p>Bravo. As another early adopter of GC, they have been real slacking, despite their promises, since the Google acquisition. To come out with this refried press release is insulting.</p>
<p>GC- I am all for charity and see the value of the concept, but let&#8217;s focus on the core business here and move beyond 2 years ago. I feel like I am stuck in a LOST time shift.</p>
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		<title>By: Velioncho</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2011862</link>
		<dc:creator>Velioncho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If somebody donates millions with mere intention of getting publicity, I am fine with it as long as poor gets help. However, here the point Mike is trying to make is the fact that somebody trying get Marketorial gains by announcing free as free. That is terrible considering that somebody is a huge giant like Google.

Mike has master the art of debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If somebody donates millions with mere intention of getting publicity, I am fine with it as long as poor gets help. However, here the point Mike is trying to make is the fact that somebody trying get Marketorial gains by announcing free as free. That is terrible considering that somebody is a huge giant like Google.</p>
<p>Mike has master the art of debate.</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2011760</link>
		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homeless people need a place to stay i.e. home. If Google with the loads of cash that they have can address that then you can see some philanthropy in, but this act of giving a homeless person free voice mail is silly. 
Like the biggest worry a homeless person in this SFO winter is a free voicemail!

Compounded by the fact that it was already free.

BTW, how does the homeless person access his/her voice mails? Have the Google folks cut a deal with service providers of the world for provide computers and internet access?

Are these guys loosing their mind and running out of marketing ideas?

SG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homeless people need a place to stay i.e. home. If Google with the loads of cash that they have can address that then you can see some philanthropy in, but this act of giving a homeless person free voice mail is silly.<br />
Like the biggest worry a homeless person in this SFO winter is a free voicemail!</p>
<p>Compounded by the fact that it was already free.</p>
<p>BTW, how does the homeless person access his/her voice mails? Have the Google folks cut a deal with service providers of the world for provide computers and internet access?</p>
<p>Are these guys loosing their mind and running out of marketing ideas?</p>
<p>SG</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2011745</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT&#039;s funny to see someone mention &quot;dark lord MS&quot; when referring to charitable contributions.

For starters, Bill and Melinda gates are the largest charitable donators in the entire world, they give more than the rest of the top contributors combined (if you do not include the massive giving away of an entire fortune by warren buffet, but that still doesn&#039;t eve bring buffet close the Bill and Melinda&#039;s all time charity spree...) (sure, being the richest man in the world helps... but look at the % of worth that the Gates&#039; delegate to charitable causes vs. the % of Larry or Sergeys worth that is thusly delegated, hell combine the entire Google board and add up all their percentages... what&#039;s that? You&#039;re very surprised to see that The Google is a selfish corporate hog and MS might have actually been the good guys all along?  OMG wht have we done... ). Paul Allen was no slouch either in his heyday and still funds SETI, the search for intelligent extra terrestrial life (something the gov&#039;t stopped funding and Allen has since bankrolled of his own private funds).

The hands that rocked the cradle at MS are very compassionate and kind hands indeed.  So what if you think that MS as a company is evil, the fact remains that the private fortunes accrued as a result of MS&#039;s success have been largely used to do more good on a global scale than anyone in these comments is willing to comprehend... (that&#039;s clearly an assumption about the willingness)... and the good was done not for free press or political favortism, it was done for the good of mankind and the needs of dying children. So say what you want about the GC/SF deal... but dammit, don&#039;t go bringing MS into this just because Goog. is in it... capiche.

What these people have done for charity is Give.... its a sacrifice to give of your own to someone in need.  It means you could have t, but instead you let them have it. It is NOT here, we&#039;ll put together an interface that will allow your local townships to sign up the areas homeless for our already free service.  

Now to Craig... I&#039;m sure you guys &quot;acknowledged&quot; the benefit to the homeless but I know beyond the shadow of all doubt that you did not set out to build GC for the homeless.  Since your acquisition you could afford to rent a gymnasium, set up a temporary computer lab complete with Wi-Fi (um.. theres a Google announcement.. Google provdes electricity and Internet Connection for Bay Area Homeless Job Fair), provide a hot dinner, activities for children and teach the areas homeless to use the computer, sign up for GC themselves, looks for jobs and even work with select employers (aka partners for your big press release) to set up opportunities for wiling-to-work homeless... etc...  you did not fucking do that, you did the least possible amount you could  so stop acting like you deserve some sort of pat on the back.  Do the Job Fair then i&#039;ll be amazed at your zest to help the homeless...  Mike was right to call you out, right to call Google and the Mayor out... you&#039;ve exploited the homeless people for your own personal gain and self satisfaction and that&#039;s nothing short if despicable... then to come defend yourself... you should be ashamed. You were better off letting Mike have his rant than coming in here and laying in front of the wolves.... silly little bastard.

I think (even after reading the &quot;Second&quot; version, that Mike is not against the homeless.. he is trying to stup up to the plate for the homeless, &quot;Don&#039;t exploit us for you own public image, please... unless, you know, you really are going to GIVE us something.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT&#8217;s funny to see someone mention &#8220;dark lord MS&#8221; when referring to charitable contributions.</p>
<p>For starters, Bill and Melinda gates are the largest charitable donators in the entire world, they give more than the rest of the top contributors combined (if you do not include the massive giving away of an entire fortune by warren buffet, but that still doesn&#8217;t eve bring buffet close the Bill and Melinda&#8217;s all time charity spree&#8230;) (sure, being the richest man in the world helps&#8230; but look at the % of worth that the Gates&#8217; delegate to charitable causes vs. the % of Larry or Sergeys worth that is thusly delegated, hell combine the entire Google board and add up all their percentages&#8230; what&#8217;s that? You&#8217;re very surprised to see that The Google is a selfish corporate hog and MS might have actually been the good guys all along?  OMG wht have we done&#8230; ). Paul Allen was no slouch either in his heyday and still funds SETI, the search for intelligent extra terrestrial life (something the gov&#8217;t stopped funding and Allen has since bankrolled of his own private funds).</p>
<p>The hands that rocked the cradle at MS are very compassionate and kind hands indeed.  So what if you think that MS as a company is evil, the fact remains that the private fortunes accrued as a result of MS&#8217;s success have been largely used to do more good on a global scale than anyone in these comments is willing to comprehend&#8230; (that&#8217;s clearly an assumption about the willingness)&#8230; and the good was done not for free press or political favortism, it was done for the good of mankind and the needs of dying children. So say what you want about the GC/SF deal&#8230; but dammit, don&#8217;t go bringing MS into this just because Goog. is in it&#8230; capiche.</p>
<p>What these people have done for charity is Give&#8230;. its a sacrifice to give of your own to someone in need.  It means you could have t, but instead you let them have it. It is NOT here, we&#8217;ll put together an interface that will allow your local townships to sign up the areas homeless for our already free service.  </p>
<p>Now to Craig&#8230; I&#8217;m sure you guys &#8220;acknowledged&#8221; the benefit to the homeless but I know beyond the shadow of all doubt that you did not set out to build GC for the homeless.  Since your acquisition you could afford to rent a gymnasium, set up a temporary computer lab complete with Wi-Fi (um.. theres a Google announcement.. Google provdes electricity and Internet Connection for Bay Area Homeless Job Fair), provide a hot dinner, activities for children and teach the areas homeless to use the computer, sign up for GC themselves, looks for jobs and even work with select employers (aka partners for your big press release) to set up opportunities for wiling-to-work homeless&#8230; etc&#8230;  you did not fucking do that, you did the least possible amount you could  so stop acting like you deserve some sort of pat on the back.  Do the Job Fair then i&#8217;ll be amazed at your zest to help the homeless&#8230;  Mike was right to call you out, right to call Google and the Mayor out&#8230; you&#8217;ve exploited the homeless people for your own personal gain and self satisfaction and that&#8217;s nothing short if despicable&#8230; then to come defend yourself&#8230; you should be ashamed. You were better off letting Mike have his rant than coming in here and laying in front of the wolves&#8230;. silly little bastard.</p>
<p>I think (even after reading the &#8220;Second&#8221; version, that Mike is not against the homeless.. he is trying to stup up to the plate for the homeless, &#8220;Don&#8217;t exploit us for you own public image, please&#8230; unless, you know, you really are going to GIVE us something.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: scratchiti</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2011708</link>
		<dc:creator>scratchiti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, the link isn&#039;t to Craig&#039;s comment, it&#039;s to the Grand Central site.  You may just want to pull his comment into the body of the post like you did with that other comment - I think it&#039;s a really fair defense, especially since you were using another article to base your story on.  Good to get a primary source in there.  

I actually generally hate when people get on here and complain about your reporting, but I have to say I&#039;m a bit disappointed to find out this was based on some main-stream media report that you just re-hashed and opined on.  I come on here because I think you and your writers get technology in a way that the mainstream media just doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, the link isn&#8217;t to Craig&#8217;s comment, it&#8217;s to the Grand Central site.  You may just want to pull his comment into the body of the post like you did with that other comment &#8211; I think it&#8217;s a really fair defense, especially since you were using another article to base your story on.  Good to get a primary source in there.  </p>
<p>I actually generally hate when people get on here and complain about your reporting, but I have to say I&#8217;m a bit disappointed to find out this was based on some main-stream media report that you just re-hashed and opined on.  I come on here because I think you and your writers get technology in a way that the mainstream media just doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2011573</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;pro homeless&quot; is wrong on so many levels...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;pro homeless&#8221; is wrong on so many levels&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2011464</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael, I am disappointed to see you frame Project CARE and Project Homeless Connect in such a negative light. I think it is wonderful, and I look forward to seeing such a great service help more people across the entire nation. I hope to see more &quot;publicity stunts&quot; like this from other companies, and I look forward to hearing more about how technology is being used to help those in need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael, I am disappointed to see you frame Project CARE and Project Homeless Connect in such a negative light. I think it is wonderful, and I look forward to seeing such a great service help more people across the entire nation. I hope to see more &#8220;publicity stunts&#8221; like this from other companies, and I look forward to hearing more about how technology is being used to help those in need.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam I Am</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2011438</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam I Am</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how you slid the nicely SEO&#039;d link text in there for the non-profit org :) Normally all your nicely SEO&#039;d anchor texts go to techcrunch articles only so it&#039;s a welcome change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how you slid the nicely SEO&#8217;d link text in there for the non-profit org <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Normally all your nicely SEO&#8217;d anchor texts go to techcrunch articles only so it&#8217;s a welcome change.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/28/grandcentral-launches-but-only-if-youre-homeless/comment-page-2/#comment-2011394</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I linked to Craig&#039;s comment in an update to the post, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I linked to Craig&#8217;s comment in an update to the post, too.</p>
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