Comments on: Adobe AIR Vs Microsoft Silverlight: It’s All About Numbers http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/ Startup and Tech News Sat, 17 May 2008 04:33:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Java Programming News » Blog Archive » Rich Internet Application Misconceptions - JavaProNews.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2291373 Java Programming News » Blog Archive » Rich Internet Application Misconceptions - JavaProNews.com Mon, 12 May 2008 14:01:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2291373 [...] Riley of TechCrunch wrote about — Adobe AIR Vs Microsoft Silverlight — which I believed is wrong right from the title. It could have been Adobe Flash Player vs [...] […] Riley of TechCrunch wrote about — Adobe AIR Vs Microsoft Silverlight — which I believed is wrong right from the title. It could have been Adobe Flash Player vs […]

]]> By: Rags to Riches » Blog Archive » Latest Example ReadWriteWeb: A-list bloggers are so confused about RIA technologies http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2286408 Rags to Riches » Blog Archive » Latest Example ReadWriteWeb: A-list bloggers are so confused about RIA technologies Sat, 10 May 2008 04:46:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2286408 [...] example of how Mary Jo Foley’s recent post was wrong in so many ways and how I had noticed a similarly confused post on TechCrunch a while [...] […] example of how Mary Jo Foley’s recent post was wrong in so many ways and how I had noticed a similarly confused post on TechCrunch a while […]

]]> By: Rags to Riches » Blog Archive » A-list bloggers are so confused about Rich Internet Application technologies http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2284388 Rags to Riches » Blog Archive » A-list bloggers are so confused about Rich Internet Application technologies Fri, 09 May 2008 04:47:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2284388 [...] about all these technologies, not too long ago I remember seeing an article on TechCrunch which was equally confused … I have come across several such confused articles in the past few [...] […] about all these technologies, not too long ago I remember seeing an article on TechCrunch which was equally confused … I have come across several such confused articles in the past few […]

]]> By: Alex Baran http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2054282 Alex Baran Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:17:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2054282 Microsoft Corporation or often just MS, is an American multinational computer technology corporation with 79,000 employees in 102 countries and global annual revenue of US $51.12 billion as of 2007. I've read about this at http://www.shapedword.com. Microsoft Corporation or often just MS, is an American multinational computer technology corporation with 79,000 employees in 102 countries and global annual revenue of US $51.12 billion as of 2007. I’ve read about this at http://www.shapedword.com.

]]> By: Microsoft adopte FlashLite pour Windows Mobile, en attendant Silverlight http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2051212 Microsoft adopte FlashLite pour Windows Mobile, en attendant Silverlight Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:45:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2051212 [...] Microsoft c’est une étape intermédiaire en attendant de pouvoir lancer la version mobile de Silverlight prévue pour la deuxième moitie de l’année. Améliorer Windows Mobile était nécessaire et [...] […] Microsoft c’est une étape intermédiaire en attendant de pouvoir lancer la version mobile de Silverlight prévue pour la deuxième moitie de l’année. Améliorer Windows Mobile était nécessaire et […]

]]> By: Chris McFarling http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2048777 Chris McFarling Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:31:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2048777 I see a lot of narrow minded observations in these postings. Many people make the claim that Silverlight shouldn't even be compared to AIR. The reasoning is that AIR allows for an OOB (out-of-browser) experience while Silverlight is confined to the browser. While that is currently true that will not be the case for long. If I can see the writing on the wall then I'm quite confident that MS can too. This is Web 3.0 that we're talking about. Shedding what will soon be seen as archaic technologies in favor of a more modern approach that will finally make web enabled apps feel like the dektop apps that we've had for years. The archaic technologies I'm talking about include HTML, Javascript, CSS and the like. Every ounce of usefullness has been squeezed out of these technologies for creating web apps and the best that we can get out of them are apps that almost kind of sort of work like an app really should. Those technologies are directly tied to the browser's abilities or lack there of. Sure that stuff will be around for a long time to come but will be used to create sites that are browse only or offer limited funtionality. The web browser will get back to being just that, a tool for browsing web pages. It may occasionally be used to launch these new Web 3.0 type of apps that are created in AIR or SL or even Java but it won't be required in most cases. Essentially AIR and Silverlight will be competing with Java. What Silverlight and AIR are attempting to do is nothing new. The problem with Java is that the user experience is dull and the apps are clunky. SL and AIR are addressing that shortcoming by allowing graphicly rich UIs and desktop app like performance. Flash has not replaced HTML/Javascript/CSS but it's good to use when you want to create something that would not be possible, or maybe probable, to do using those technologies. I think SL and AIR may experience a similar coexistence. AIR will be used to create cool and functional apps. When you want to create something really cool and really functional though, SL will be the platform of choice due to the power of the .NET framework behind it. MS has been in the development game so much longer than Adobe that there is no comparison. That will most certainly be a factor. Once SL becomes OOB, that whole argument that it's not even a competitor with AIR is out the window. At that point the irrelevant browser war is over and it becomes a runtime platform war. I see a lot of narrow minded observations in these postings. Many people make the claim that Silverlight shouldn’t even be compared to AIR. The reasoning is that AIR allows for an OOB (out-of-browser) experience while Silverlight is confined to the browser. While that is currently true that will not be the case for long. If I can see the writing on the wall then I’m quite confident that MS can too. This is Web 3.0 that we’re talking about. Shedding what will soon be seen as archaic technologies in favor of a more modern approach that will finally make web enabled apps feel like the dektop apps that we’ve had for years. The archaic technologies I’m talking about include HTML, Javascript, CSS and the like. Every ounce of usefullness has been squeezed out of these technologies for creating web apps and the best that we can get out of them are apps that almost kind of sort of work like an app really should. Those technologies are directly tied to the browser’s abilities or lack there of. Sure that stuff will be around for a long time to come but will be used to create sites that are browse only or offer limited funtionality. The web browser will get back to being just that, a tool for browsing web pages. It may occasionally be used to launch these new Web 3.0 type of apps that are created in AIR or SL or even Java but it won’t be required in most cases. Essentially AIR and Silverlight will be competing with Java. What Silverlight and AIR are attempting to do is nothing new. The problem with Java is that the user experience is dull and the apps are clunky. SL and AIR are addressing that shortcoming by allowing graphicly rich UIs and desktop app like performance.

Flash has not replaced HTML/Javascript/CSS but it’s good to use when you want to create something that would not be possible, or maybe probable, to do using those technologies. I think SL and AIR may experience a similar coexistence. AIR will be used to create cool and functional apps. When you want to create something really cool and really functional though, SL will be the platform of choice due to the power of the .NET framework behind it. MS has been in the development game so much longer than Adobe that there is no comparison. That will most certainly be a factor. Once SL becomes OOB, that whole argument that it’s not even a competitor with AIR is out the window. At that point the irrelevant browser war is over and it becomes a runtime platform war.

]]> By: petra http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2044590 petra Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:43:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2044590 derk, I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about. If, as you say, you've not even looked at ActionScript 3, you are *so* far behind the times. Flex 3 is now out, and ActionScript 3 was around during the time of Flex 2. That's how far behind you are. AS3 is really light years ahead of something like JavaScript, and with the VM in Flash Player 9 it's JIT'ed to machine code just like with the JVM and the CLR. Get up to date by a few years, and then comment. derk, I’m afraid you don’t know what you’re talking about. If, as you say, you’ve not even looked at ActionScript 3, you are *so* far behind the times. Flex 3 is now out, and ActionScript 3 was around during the time of Flex 2. That’s how far behind you are.

AS3 is really light years ahead of something like JavaScript, and with the VM in Flash Player 9 it’s JIT’ed to machine code just like with the JVM and the CLR.

Get up to date by a few years, and then comment.

]]> By: derk http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2041767 derk Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:57:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2041767 ActionScript based Flex is crap. It's based on nothing but Javascript w/ a turbo charger. Having programmed Asp.Net for so long, I hate my guts out at Javascript. Now this AIR, aka JVM-wannabe, is still promising me a html-javascript solution? Not interested. And another virtual machine to rival M$ desktop? Don't make me laugh. Java, w/ its colossal development support, has been trying for 10 years to knock M$ out of desktop world and ain't anywhere close to that goal. Now you want me to believe AIR has what it takes? Flex may have been in this field longer but it's not making serious progress partly b/c ActionScript 2.0 is crap. Maybe the 3.0 is better but Adobe hasn't built up a huge user base yet. So their market share in the real RIA world is very limited. W/ SL2 coming out along w/ C# front and central instead of stupid Javascript, an end to end solution, the proven .Net framework, Visual Studio IDE and an army of .Net programmers having no problem to pick it up, Flex will be left out in a lonely corner used only by those who either have no .Net environment or simply hates everything from M$. ActionScript based Flex is crap. It’s based on nothing but Javascript w/ a turbo charger. Having programmed Asp.Net for so long, I hate my guts out at Javascript. Now this AIR, aka JVM-wannabe, is still promising me a html-javascript solution? Not interested. And another virtual machine to rival M$ desktop? Don’t make me laugh. Java, w/ its colossal development support, has been trying for 10 years to knock M$ out of desktop world and ain’t anywhere close to that goal. Now you want me to believe AIR has what it takes?

Flex may have been in this field longer but it’s not making serious progress partly b/c ActionScript 2.0 is crap. Maybe the 3.0 is better but Adobe hasn’t built up a huge user base yet. So their market share in the real RIA world is very limited. W/ SL2 coming out along w/ C# front and central instead of stupid Javascript, an end to end solution, the proven .Net framework, Visual Studio IDE and an army of .Net programmers having no problem to pick it up, Flex will be left out in a lonely corner used only by those who either have no .Net environment or simply hates everything from M$.

]]> By: Anindya Sharma http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2033724 Anindya Sharma Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:31:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2033724 There is no comparison but some Simple points AIR: 1.Desktop RIAs 2.Auto Update 3.Integrated Browser(webkit) 4.Desktop presence for websites 5.Devs can create also HTML-javascript based AIR Apps 6. Proper Installer 7. AIR Rocks Silverlight: 1.Same old browser 2.Just as old version of Flex website 3.Too much pain for developer. 4. Silverlight Sucks anindya/adobe There is no comparison but some Simple points

AIR:
1.Desktop RIAs
2.Auto Update
3.Integrated Browser(webkit)
4.Desktop presence for websites
5.Devs can create also HTML-javascript based AIR Apps
6. Proper Installer
7. AIR Rocks

Silverlight:
1.Same old browser
2.Just as old version of Flex website
3.Too much pain for developer.
4. Silverlight Sucks

anindya/adobe

]]> By: Joseph http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2026590 Joseph Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:05:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2026590 Mark, I disagree Flash is better than Silverlight in many ways, read the full report here: http://www.yozef.com/Flex_3_Evaluation.pdf it compares with Silverlight and AJAX. Mark, I disagree Flash is better than Silverlight in many ways, read the full report here: http://www.yozef.com/Flex_3_Evaluation.pdf it compares with Silverlight and AJAX.

]]> By: NP http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2017813 NP Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:19:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2017813 There is something shady going on here. Different authors. Same text content (but different images). Same disclosure: http://seekingalpha.com/article/66122-adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight Plagiarism, in plain sight? There is something shady going on here.
Different authors. Same text content (but different images). Same disclosure:
http://seekingalpha.com/articl.....ilverlight

Plagiarism, in plain sight?

]]> By: Michael Sync http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2014348 Michael Sync Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:48:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2014348 I think AIR is like WPF browser application... I think AIR is like WPF browser application…

]]> By: Mark http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2014008 Mark Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:39:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2014008 Adobe is very worried about Silverlight, and rightly so. Once Silverlight 2.0 gets out, then there's really no comparison on the technical and tooling level. Silverlight absolutely crushes Flash Adobe is very worried about Silverlight, and rightly so. Once Silverlight 2.0 gets out, then there’s really no comparison on the technical and tooling level. Silverlight absolutely crushes Flash

]]> By: ionix5891 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2013576 ionix5891 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:07:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2013576 wow. talk about comparing apples and oranges very weak techcrunch, very weak get the finger out of your behinds and do some proper research before publishing rubbish like this you completely missed the points of what AIR and Silverlight are, or maybe you did it deliberately to crank up your ad views wow. talk about comparing apples and oranges

very weak techcrunch, very weak

get the finger out of your behinds and do some proper research before publishing rubbish like this

you completely missed the points of what AIR and Silverlight are, or maybe you did it deliberately to crank up your ad views

]]> By: John Dowdell http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2011239 John Dowdell Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:32:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2011239 For info on the AIR startup ping, and configuring auto-updates, see here: http://www.adobe.com/go/kb403175 jd/adobe For info on the AIR startup ping, and configuring auto-updates, see here:
http://www.adobe.com/go/kb403175

jd/adobe

]]> By: W http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2011007 W Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:46:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2011007 There are some much more mature RIA applications like Curl and OpenLazlo and AIR is based on a mature product. And those all have a history of being available on other platforms, and being quality. Silverlight's only chance comes from it being pushed by a company with billions to spend. Disclaimer: I work for Curl Inc. There are some much more mature RIA applications like Curl and OpenLazlo and AIR is based on a mature product. And those all have a history of being available on other platforms, and being quality. Silverlight’s only chance comes from it being pushed by a company with billions to spend.

Disclaimer: I work for Curl Inc.

]]> By: M http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2009924 M Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:53:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2009924 Connect to Adobe to check for an update. What's wrong with that? Stop whinnig. Connect to Adobe to check for an update. What’s wrong with that? Stop whinnig.

]]> By: Igor http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2009359 Igor Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:26:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2009359 This is really disappointing - AIR tries silently to connect to ADOBE after you launch application on it: http://tinyurl.com/354t6o This is really disappointing - AIR tries silently to connect to ADOBE after you launch application on it:
http://tinyurl.com/354t6o

]]> By: Alex Linhares http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2009211 Alex Linhares Thu, 28 Feb 2008 04:39:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2009211 Silverlight will CRUSH Air!!! Zune will CRUSH iPod!!!! Silverlight will CRUSH Air!!!

Zune will CRUSH iPod!!!!

]]> By: John Dowdell http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2008754 John Dowdell Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:06:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2008754 Actually, it was Adobe Flash Player 9 which was tested at 95.7% consumer viewability last December. Only 2.6% of people tested still had an 8.x version installed. http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2008/01/flash_player_9_11.cfm This is an issue that I'm not surprised to see people get wrong, because it is such a mindbogglingly unprecedented acceptance rate by the world. 18 months from release to 95.7% public capability. The world pulls for Flash. It's quite startling, and I'm not surprised to see people surprised by it. But I'm still not sure how folks like Duncan can confuse in-browser and beyond-the-browser capabilities, then not engage when challenged by readers. I'm almost thinking of doing a post called "AIR, Silverlight, or Britney Spears: Which to choose!?" It'd be about as pertinent. (Disclosure: I have not been paid or otherwise influenced by Britney Spears.... ;-) jd/adobe Actually, it was Adobe Flash Player 9 which was tested at 95.7% consumer viewability last December. Only 2.6% of people tested still had an 8.x version installed.
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/.....r_9_11.cfm

This is an issue that I’m not surprised to see people get wrong, because it is such a mindbogglingly unprecedented acceptance rate by the world. 18 months from release to 95.7% public capability. The world pulls for Flash. It’s quite startling, and I’m not surprised to see people surprised by it.

But I’m still not sure how folks like Duncan can confuse in-browser and beyond-the-browser capabilities, then not engage when challenged by readers. I’m almost thinking of doing a post called “AIR, Silverlight, or Britney Spears: Which to choose!?” It’d be about as pertinent. (Disclosure: I have not been paid or otherwise influenced by Britney Spears…. ;-)

jd/adobe

]]> By: M http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2008435 M Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:29:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2008435 56 is right. I think 95% is all versions combined. Flash player 8 I think has the largest portion of that 95%. As video sharing sites go HD, more and more FP 9 will get installed. 56 is right. I think 95% is all versions combined. Flash player 8 I think has the largest portion of that 95%. As video sharing sites go HD, more and more FP 9 will get installed.

]]> By: Federico http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2008389 Federico Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:14:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2008389 Agree with 33. Don't think that a .Net developer will start creating Canvas objects just to switch from their AJAX controls to some "smoother" ones. Yes, performance in Silverlight is awesome, but it still has a long way to go to seriously compete with flash. Not even with Silverlight 2.0 they will accomplish that, since 2.0 still requires designers to use Expression Design, and animators to use Blend, and those products are still in dipers. I think that Silverlight will be pushed by MS, but won't make it to the next level soon.. but that doesn't mean they don't have a great product between hands. Agree with 33.
Don’t think that a .Net developer will start creating Canvas objects just to switch from their AJAX controls to some “smoother” ones.
Yes, performance in Silverlight is awesome, but it still has a long way to go to seriously compete with flash. Not even with Silverlight 2.0 they will accomplish that, since 2.0 still requires designers to use Expression Design, and animators to use Blend, and those products are still in dipers.
I think that Silverlight will be pushed by MS, but won’t make it to the next level soon.. but that doesn’t mean they don’t have a great product between hands.

]]> By: Ahmad http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2008287 Ahmad Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:04:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2008287 AIR = WPF + MS Synchornisation Framework. AIR requries a RunTime. Flex 3 Apps require Flash Player 9.0 Plugin which does not exist on 95% of browsers as claimed. So either with Flex 3 or SL the user has t Install a pluggin. The war has just begun!!!! AIR = WPF + MS Synchornisation Framework.
AIR requries a RunTime. Flex 3 Apps require Flash Player 9.0 Plugin which does not exist on 95% of browsers as claimed. So either with Flex 3 or SL the user has t Install a pluggin.

The war has just begun!!!!

]]> By: Harry http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2008175 Harry Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:34:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2008175 Well of course MS is moving to grab a piece of the RIA market, as they always have done (web browsers, media players), when a market appears to emerge (or actuallt when a market has emerged). Actually I think AIR is greater news for developers than for users. Web enabled desktop apps is nothing new. But the ability to deploy your web app (built in either Flex, AJAX/html) on the desktop out of pretty much the same code base is indeed big news for developers and companies. Also, this is all client technology. Flex on the web or on desktop/AIR has no problem working with .NET or PHP backend Well of course MS is moving to grab a piece of the RIA market, as they always have done (web browsers, media players), when a market appears to emerge (or actuallt when a market has emerged).
Actually I think AIR is greater news for developers than for users. Web enabled desktop apps is nothing new. But the ability to deploy your web app (built in either Flex, AJAX/html) on the desktop out of pretty much the same code base is indeed big news for developers and companies.
Also, this is all client technology. Flex on the web or on desktop/AIR has no problem working with .NET or PHP backend

]]> By: DjOnline http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2008162 DjOnline Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:22:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/adobe-air-vs-microsoft-silverlight-its-all-about-numbers/#comment-2008162 AIR is simple equal to .NET and JAVA! And like .net and java it will have crossplatform support. AIR can make all things like .NET and Java, full (or restricted) access to filesystem. Air application as I thinks right - cannot run directly in browser. It must be downloaded before. As a .NET and Java apps. But flash apps can be ported to AIR. Like ASP.net apps can be ported to .NET. Like java applet can be ported to full java app. There is no invention ! You must compare it for execution speed. Only difference is that AIR have integrated mysqlite and lastests video/audio decoders. .NET require MS Sql server or MSDE (MS Desktop Engine) or anything you want via ODBC (like Java). We all know that .NET and JAVA have fast bytecode compiler, and we do not know how fast is perfomance of AIR. But some very CPU intensive computation like audio/video decoding in air are native and fullspeed, in .NET - you depend on system codecs, and in Java - must implement all things in pure java (= no fast perfomance). Do not forger Google Gears - it is not desktop app, but DB/local cache engine for website based on sqlite too. AIR is simple equal to .NET and JAVA!
And like .net and java it will have crossplatform support.

AIR can make all things like .NET and Java, full (or restricted) access to filesystem.
Air application as I thinks right - cannot run directly in browser. It must be downloaded before. As a .NET and Java apps. But flash apps can be ported to AIR. Like ASP.net apps can be ported to .NET. Like java applet can be ported to full java app. There is no invention !
You must compare it for execution speed.

Only difference is that AIR have integrated mysqlite and lastests video/audio decoders. .NET require MS Sql server or MSDE (MS Desktop Engine) or anything you want via ODBC (like Java).

We all know that .NET and JAVA have fast bytecode compiler, and we do not know how fast is perfomance of AIR. But some very CPU intensive computation like audio/video decoding in air are native and fullspeed, in .NET - you depend on system codecs, and in Java - must implement all things in pure java (= no fast perfomance).

Do not forger Google Gears - it is not desktop app, but DB/local cache engine for website based on sqlite too.

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