Comments on: YouTube Suffers Downtime, Pakistan Telecom To Blame?

By: godzilla

godzilla — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:13:02 +0000

YOUTUBE IS BACK!!!!

I JUST CHECKED AND IT WAS THERE!!!

By: Le Blogueur » Blog Archive » La censure Chinoise ferme GoogleNews et YouTube; comment va réagir Google?

Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:46:07 +0000

[...] n’est pas la premier fois que YouTube est censuré, le mois dernier, le Pakistan fermait YouTube pour quelques heures en raison de vidéos [...]

By: The Censors Take Down YouTube and Google News in China. How Will Google Respond?

The Censors Take Down YouTube and Google News in China. How Will Google Respond? — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:18:18 +0000

[...] isn’t the first time YouTube has been censored. Last month, Pakistan ended up taking down YouTube worldwide for a couple hours because of some supposedly “blasphemous” videos on the [...]

By: FArrukh

FArrukh — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:22:14 +0000

dear ! Inda beat us in 1997, 1965 , 1971 there all war was gone in idia favour only 1998 war we win but not at all , and what u say our brave air force (ha ha ha ha ), AFSOOOS YAAAR

you detmined that india had ocupied azad kashmir and other parts of sind, yaaar waht abou sialkot and lahore in 1965, but now we r going to discuss abt pak army not going to solve the palestine issue if isreal is supporter of indai then what is china, leave it yaaar u think as whole not only about enimeis yaar

andf u say abt indian channels what musharaf said in his intewiew which progran you dont like leave that many films made by indai against pakistan but some of them are also famous in pakistan

By: FArrukh

FArrukh — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:21:37 +0000

My problem is that I cannot explain you via my english that how good
our Army was, is, and will be (Inshallah) But let my try to let you know a few
things about ever great Pakistani Army. During the President Genral Zia-ul-Haq Late
Pakistan Army support to our Afghani brothers when USSR (Russia) attack on Afghanistan.
It was imposibale to fight against World`s most strong army. But (Allhadulilla) Pakistan Army and
Mujahidin push them back to Russia. There was also a time when USA army get traning in Pakistan
in 1980`s. Lots of USA troops came to Pakistan for their traning.
Israel twice planed to destroy Pakistani Nuclear plan in 80`s with help of India. But our
great Air Force never let them do it. All the credit goes to Pakistan Air Force in that time. Today
we suffring a lot terrorisam in our own country. We also defending our country against a another
huge power land India. Remeber that India is much stronger than Pakistan in their army, But they never
dare to have a war against Pakistan, because they well know what happened in 1965 and also that even
don`t have so much sores but our great Army always did their great job whenever we nedded them. I hope that
you got maybe answer of your question. Pakistan Army is one of the greatest army in the world. I salut Pakistan Army.

By: No Name Girl

No Name Girl — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:12:36 +0000

Hi Guys! I came across this post by Helloji which brings out the irony and sarcasm on how ‘Pakistan Clogs You Tube’. Must Read-

http://helloji.wordpress.com/2.....s-youtube/

By: Kashif

Kashif — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:03:24 +0000

Here is a take on the situation from Pakistan’s perspective:

http://www.chowrangi.com/youtu.....istan.html

By: Muneeb

Muneeb — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:29:40 +0000

Hi guys !

Well i just wanna say … Is this post from techcrunch.com for discussing Quran , Muslims, Indians etc ?

Please its a request to all of you to be on the Topic - don’t go Off topic

Thanks
Muneeb

P.S This is neither a religious nor any political discussion post ….

By: Dev

Dev — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:13:28 +0000

Pakistan’s ISI must be the one circulating a memo to ban youtube. The same people who support the terrorist and give them training. I don’t blame the people, they are bought up in this situation and they dont have the opportunities that you might find in other better off countries. But it is time they stand up to the ISI and other radical organisations florishing in pakistan. I was shocked to see a picture in a busy market in pakistan and people were openly donating money for the ‘jihad’ cause. So while most muslims are good.. just saying so doesnt make you so.. you should take some positive actions against those muslims that are f*cking up your name!

By: iqbal

iqbal — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:05:55 +0000

Hi
I don’t understand how Pakistan can do that. They can ban it over here but how can they take control of something which is in USA.

How can Techcrunch allow this rubbish talk against Islam or Quran.

Thanks

By: David Ulevitch

David Ulevitch — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:04:15 +0000

@Sam (23)

No there isn’t more to this than meets the eye. And no, it wasn’t a test. There are numerous reasons why that would make no sense.

By: Ghaus

Ghaus — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:49:51 +0000

Sorry for late comment !

I am working on my own start-up company in Pakistan, and oh yeah i cannot access YouTube. Damn !

Fact : Pakistan has more than 16 million internet users.

By: Sam

Sam — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:34:01 +0000

I find it amazing that we are all basing this story off one announcement by the BBC. Why has no one else corroborated the cause of this? This is a fascinating event as it reveals a number of things:
- The dominance of You Tube. Why hasn’t a rival emerged?
- The reliance on the BBC as a trustworthy source of news. (I am sceptical ever since their premature reporting of the collapse of WTC building 7 on September 11)
- The lack of questioning of this happening so soon after the Internet outage in the Middle East.
- the vulnerability of a large corporation (You Tube owned by Google) to a decision of a nation state.

There is more to this than meets the eye.

My theory is that this was a test of some sort.

By: Indian

Indian — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:26:01 +0000

Shaheer, I’m from India and I appreciate your patience and maturity in dealing with abuse here. These idiots aren’t worth answering.

By: Jawad

Jawad — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:29:39 +0000

Pakistan is the country of scientists, I guess someone’s experiments goes wrong.. But don’t worry neighbours, our cruise missiles or nukes experiment wont be wrong…
A Foolish Indian wrote: Is that allowed in Koran ?;-) … LOL!!.. Why don’t you ask your own fellow country men.. India has more than 200 million muslims.. Even more than Pakistan. And why don’t you ask your own former president.. President of India is also a muslim.. Also founder/head of indians nuclear / missile stuff..

By: Shaheer

Shaheer — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:33:26 +0000

Let’s not cuss at each other due to different spelling usage. There’s a reason why Muslims refer to it as the Quran, and not the Koran, but calling names?

On a humorous note: just about everything, even the television is allowed.

What’s preached in Islam is the ability to distinguish good from bad, and not act in a radical manner. It’s unfortunate people tend to not follow their religion entirely nowadays (only a select few do).

By: Yogi Muranjan

Yogi Muranjan — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:50:54 +0000

I am not sure about Koran, but probably in Quran, you dumb ass.

By: Harshal Vaidya

Harshal Vaidya — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:35:08 +0000

Wow ..Pakistan has internet ?
Is that allowed in Koran ?;-)

By: Shaheer

Shaheer — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:01:49 +0000

Btw, the video has now been removed. I have the copy of the memo that was sent. It’s available on the internet (and I lost the link…), but if anyone would like a copy, I can upload it (or mail TechCrunch, if they can get in contact with me) and they could publically release it.

It’s the memo that was sent from PTA’s Peshawar wing to the ISPs across Peshawar, and ultimately, the country.

By: Shaheer

Shaheer — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 06:55:32 +0000

I’m in Pakistan. This ban was effective a few days. Apparently, PIE (the PTCL-run backbone) blocked the entire youtube.com domain, whereas TW1 (privately-held, tw1.com) blocked access to one specific video (and the rest of Youtube was open).

The website that was blocked (as per the PTA memorandum) was the video leading to the Anti-Islamic Dutch movie.

And not surprisingly, it came from the frontier province, where we have this huge lot of radicalism prevailing.

Apparently, I’m quite sickened by the comments that sparked on Digg that are against Islam. I just have one thing to say (not just to them, but to everyone): refrain from harassing Islam when you don’t know it. Picking out portions of it and then commenting is like picking out seeds from an orange and comparing it’s taste with an apple, on the whole.

There were stories that Youtube was blocked due to the rigging videos - I’m not entirely sure whether that was the case, since the video that was instructed to be blocked was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3s8jtvvg00

I haven’t seen it (since I’m on dialup), but a few that have have described it as disturbing (and they’re not extremists, like the majority of us Pakistanis/Muslims).

I hope people realize that these suicide bombers don’t have a religion; Islam does not condone in ANY WAY these acts of whatever-you-want-to-call-it.

By: JustADude

JustADude — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 06:24:36 +0000

Renesys Blog, the same dudes who had the best real coverage of what happened in the cable break MidEast issue is back with details about the BGP reroute that was done here.

Not speculation folks, log extractions to document what happened.

http://www.renesys.com/blog/20.....tube.shtml

By: ryan troy

ryan troy — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 03:51:28 +0000

Come now….we all know this was a NSA test to determine how quickly they could control “blowback” if a piece of damning footage got out into the public. 2 hours is just enough time to update all the global filters with new video fingerprints.

http://www.slate.com/id/2172952/entry/2172970/

By: Omer

Omer — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:27:01 +0000

One of the reasons on I’ve heard from sources in Pakistan on why Pak Telecom attempted the “block” is that there were people using mobile phone cameras to record incidents of voter intimidation and ballot rigging during the recent elections in the country.

These videos then made it to you tube, and ofcourse when one of the winning parties got wind of it, an order to PTCL was made to shut down youtube..

not sure if this is completely true, but it certainly makes for a nice spicy story!

By: From India

From India — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:53:07 +0000

between assassinations, harboring terrorists and hijacking ip addresses this country is multi-talented.

By: David Ulevitch

David Ulevitch — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:28:46 +0000

Its not an allegation, I was watching them leak routes. I’m sure it was an accidental consequence of trying to block only Pakistan.

Anyways, it really is that easy.