February 23, 2008

Will There Be A (Successful) iPhone-Only Social Network?

Michael Arrington

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iPhone owners, like users of most Apple products, are a fairly passionate, elitist group of people.

I think an iPhone-only social network, if it had the right features, would be a huge hit with these users. Actually, I think any mobile social network would be a big hit, if it had presence awareness and was able to tell you both where your friends are and what they are up to. And also let you meet new people around you who were open to it.

I wrote about some of the early experiments with mobile social networks last September (see our more recent coverage of LimeJuice as well). The big social networks, of course, aren’t ignoring mobile, either. But even Facebook’s iPhone app is just the desktop version optimized for that phone. It doesn’t leverage the device itself to tell you when friends are close.

The goal here isn’t just to let users see where their friends are and what they are up to. The killer app is to facilitate meeting new people - either for dating (see a picture of everyone around you who’s single and looking, along with their basic bio), or business (see the professional bio and picture of everyone at the cocktail party). Subject to privacy controls, of course.

Once a network has critical mass users will, depending on privacy settings, be able to walk into any gathering and see information on the people in the room. Whoever gets there first will have a far more valuable asset than the existing networks at MySpace and Facebook today. Social networks are about being social. And social implies being around other people. The device they have with them when they’re doing that, and which can enhance those social gatherings, is their mobile phone. The key to doing that is through GPS or cell phone triangulation (which the iPhone now has).

None of the mobile social networks we’ve covered have even come close to establishing a critical mass. The key to winning is getting users on devices that have GPS or triangulation for presence and location, and having software on the phone instead of just accessing it from a website. Getting java apps on phones in Europe is much easier than in the U.S., which is why most of the mobile social network startups are located there.

The iPhone, though, has both. Or rather, soon will have both (the SDK to allow third party apps on the phone may have been delayed). As soon as that SDK is released, look for a flurry of third party applications to try and create a social network on the iPhone.

The front runners will be Facebook and MySpace, who, I assume, will get their users to install software on the phone as quickly as possible and try to add location information for users who choose to share it.

But new startups will try as well. And one way to differentiate themselves may be to offer a social network that is open only to iPhone users, and no one else. The exclusivity factor may be exactly what will draw enough iPhone users to kick start the service.

Fon11 - Giving It A Shot

Berkeley-based Fon11 is one startup that we’re tracking that plans to do this. The service works already through the web browser on the iPhone. In fact, you have to use it from an iPhone - it’s the only way you can register for an account, add friends or do anything else. The website, when accessed from any where but an iPhone, just shows information about the service (note - that isn’t entirely true - you can go to testiphone.com and enter fon11.com/home and see it just like it would appear on the iPhone - but only from the Safari browser).

The service is fairly limited right now to setting presence/status information. They can’t use the iPhone triangulation feature, so they set up a separate service called OpenLandmark to let people set their location information (it works well for places you visit frequently). The service caught the eye of the iPhone team, who made it a Staff Pick earlier this month.

Blackberry has a true GPS and allows third party apps on their phone. And Google’s Android will also do all of this as well. But something tells me that iPhone users might be the first group of people to jump on mobile social networks, and wouldn’t mind letting other iPhone users in the room know they’re part of the cult.

Update:
Must-read discussion of this post here.

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  1. Insurance Watch Magazine

    in every 2-3 years a new social network booms in and after sometime the hype slows. for example, why no one talks about myspace revenues when projects facebook 15b valuation? because if to look at real stats the headlines wont be that interesting and 15b will sound absurd.
    now iphone social network, yeah it would be great, mobile social networks in general too. but how many ads will fit in that tiny screen to make those apps real business?

  2. bob cobb

    I’ll stick with windows mobile until the iPhone can do everything I can. the phone and the plan for it on ATT are too $$$ for me still

  3. Z

    iPhone owners, like users of most Apple products, are a fairly passionate, elitist group of people

    —————————————————-

    LOL, elitist group of people, how to describe BMW owners.

  4. Ryan Spahn

    We wish the iPhone was the only mobile Internet device as it would make work a lot easier! We are concentrating on three mobile OSes (Windows, iPhone and Android), as we see eventually one or two being the leader. Maybe it is the iPhone, but MS just acquired Danger and thus that could increase mass market adoption of Windows Mobile.

    As for fitting ads into tiny screens, there are other ways to distribute ads on mobile social networks…besides text ads!

  5. JosefVirek

    Apple should really build social networking features into .Mac. .Mac has so much potential for Apple (recurring subscription revenue, social networking platform, etc).

  6. CollegeBean

    I dont think there will be an iphone-only one. I think it will be accessible by iphone users though.

  7. chris

    this has existed for quite some time. http://www.groovr.com

  8. CAR

    i think this is a great idea, i know i look foward to it.

  9. Alaska Miller

    It won’t work until the SDK is released.

  10. Daniel Gibbons

    I agree that there is a massive opportunity for mobile social networking. Jaiku was really on to something with the Nokia S60 client they developed. It offers much of what you’re talking about with regard to presence and location-aware services, and in many ways the S60 platform is even better suited than the iPhone to this kind of stuff.

    But development at Jaiku seems to have ground to a halt since the acquisition. Doesn’t it seem like Google is abandoning what could have been a critical piece of the mobile puzzle?

  11. Bobby

    iRovr has been a awesome iphone only social site since geez the 1.1.2 FW days. Really love the smooth and easy interface and the method of adding content, so easy.

  12. Michael Arrington

    yeah but Alaska, that’s coming any time…the question is will it work after that.

  13. Bob

    A social network just for iphone users probably has the same probability of success as a social network for mac users. Probably lower. True many of my friends have iphones(as do I), but is that enough for me to dump other mobile networks and stick to an iphone only network?

    On the other hand a new work whose mobile component is iphone only but web component is open to all might have a good chance of success. Thoughts Mike?

    -B.

  14. John Khan

    iRovr is a GREAT iPhone social networking site. It’s almost like family on there. Very easy to use too.

  15. netgrrl

    I have to second Bobby’s comment. I have tried them all, at one point and another, and iRovr.com beats them all, hands down. Easy to use, friendly place, awesome interface, and admins that are “present” and always improving the site.

  16. jenali

    I would go with iRovr.com as my pick for iPhone social networking site. The interface is easy to use and visually appealing. I’ve been a member since late July and have watched the site grow. The community remains friendly and warm. I highly recommend joining and selecting iRovr.com; you’ll see how friendly of a community the site really is.

  17. Kat

    I have to say iRovr.com is the best so far that I have used. It’s so easy use, the people are so friendly. Check it out if you haven’t yet….iRovr.com (CAUTION: VERY ADDICTIVE)

  18. Danny

    Fantastic. We are only now finally getting rid of the cancerous IE only sites only to move to a different form of proprietary stupidity. Even better, will somehow be considered iCool.

  19. DerrickInMississippi

    As far as I am concerned iRovr is the best iPhone social network for the iPhone. I have even lost interest in myspace. I spend every waking hour on iRovr. Go to you tube and check out the iRovr video. There is nothing like iRovr and it has given my iPhone new life!!!

  20. Faisal

    Best article i have ever read for you.

    Good prediction.

  21. Joshua Walters

    Are you crazy?

    Unless the following happens, its a big NO WAY:

    1. Apple makes it. All the iFanboys will join, making it successful.
    2. Its an extension of an existing network.
    3. Its done so freaking amazingly that it makes people WANT to buy an iPhone.

  22. JosefVirek

    I don’t think an iPhone-only social network is a good idea. I would suggest an Apple-only social network where iMacs, iPhones (and maybe next-generation iPods and Apple TVs — who knows) owners can communicate with each other online.

  23. Chush.met

    What’s the revenue model? Will you use a social networks that puts ads on your phone screen or spams your phone with ads? Computer screen is different, having an ad here and there is not as intrusive as having it on a phone screen where every pixel is precious space.
    Here’s a sample thread from an iPhone social network:
    - hey Bob, are you in an Apple store?
    - yeah, come over here man, let go sit in a starbucks and show off our cool macbooks while listening to U2 on our iPods

  24. JosefVirek

    @22

    I really hope Apple implement a social network around .Mac, that would be awesome.

  25. Jeran Ryvoan

    http://www.irovr.com It works, tons of people. We have a blast. Check it out if you want to see what an iphone only community can be like. You will be surprised.

  26. JosefVirek

    @25

    Subscription-based - (a couple bucks added to their phone bill).

  27. Lost in 'Bama

    Well all the comments from iRovr, proves that there is already one that has a fair number of users. By the way, hi guys. See you back at iRovr.

  28. Memo

    these guys are totally getting calls from 20+ VCs right now :)

  29. Gunz

    iRovr is THE BEST social network for iPhone!! Hands down!

  30. President iRovr

    Jenny, I know you’re just the iRovr admin assistant, but if you don’t post a glowing comment soon I’m going to make you pick up my dry cleaning for a week.

  31. ummmm

    the author obviously has no idea just how behind myspace truly is. will they get an iphone app? eventually. but for now they have their most retarded developers working on the app. word is they’ve been working on it for months, and can’t seem to crank it out.

    as for facebook, they’d be more successful if their layout didn’t completely suck. the only reason that they have any users anyway is because myspace likes to ad up everything. they choke the goose that lays golden eggs to get it to produce faster. ftards.

    here’s my advice to anyone trying to develop another “social network” (blech!!!):

    - scrape existing profile data from other social sites
    - add in some geolocation functionality
    - make an android port

    presto! vc by the boatload!

  32. Eric

    Would only be successful as a developer/geek community (how to better use my iphone and apple products). Topics for discussion will be limited due to user isolations. Most of the users won’t put much value in the relationships established within the communication since most of the relationships will be with strangers. Only common topic is Apple and therefore it’s basically an Apple FAQ on steriods. Strangers get tired of looking at strangers after a period of time. Whats the value of sending photos or discuss broad range topics with my iphone when I can’t share those photos with people that I know?

  33. Craig

    If it would make all the Apple Fanboys leave I’m all for it! I would just cringe to think what they could all talk about. “Apple so t0tally kewl! Ur Iphone Rawks!”

  34. lawrence

    ’successful’ is the million-dollar word in this article

  35. erik

    what is the obsession with ‘knowing how close your friends are’? i doubt many of our members would want us tracking their whereabouts. since there isn’t an easy way to do this without some manual input from users, I’m going to say its a feature not worth developing. thank you to our members for chiming in!

  36. What is going on, blog

    it should be open to everybody. If you want to be private, invite your friends to a private group.

  37. Lost in 'Bama

    Ummm, president iRovr all the folks making comments about iRovr are different people. I recognize their screen names from the site. Someone posted a link and a bunch of people decided to comment. Oh and by the way none of the admins have posted a comment. We just love the site and like to tell others about it.

  38. Lost in 'Bama

    Oh never mind the creator of the site just commented while I was writing my previous post.

  39. erik

    oh and our members are meeting up offline all the time, romances flourishing and deep bonds forming. live location data isn’t the key to forming relationships - communication is.

  40. Jack

    There will be a social network that rules on the iPhone, and that will be myspace.

  41. erik

    LOL @ Bama!

    Yeah, I wish I had an administrative assistant!

  42. Lost in 'Bama

    Hey, when you can afford one E, I’ll apply for the job. It will pay $100,000+ a year right?

  43. mangotini

    iRovr is different from anything you’ve experienced. I love it more than chocolate.

  44. jemoreno

    http://www.irovr.com is the best out there. If you don’t believe me go check it out and see what it has in store for you. There are hundreds of people and many different private streams that allow you to find a customized social network for you.

  45. beth aka mysti1975

    I have to agree with the irovr posts. Someone mentioned this blog on there and we came over to inform the world how much we love irovr.

    irovr beats myspace and I am a myspace junkie. I still have my myspace but there is nothing like irovr. When you are up and the rest of the world seems to be asleep at least on myspace you have all your irovr friends that are still posting. This site is addicting but it is also nice when you need a pick me up or a group of people that aren’t going to pick on you or make fun of you for liking cool gadgets.

    myspace and facebook close while irovr is 24/7 something is happening. Definetly the cream of the crop!

    For the record the users of irovr don’t get paid or anything for their posts complimenting them. They are just truly that great that we actually like talking about them!!! Go figure! In a world of so so sites and so so companies the iphone users found a groups that is as elite as they are! About time!

  46. Brent

    Sign me up, I’d use it, just like anything they’ll have to get a bit of mass to make it worth the effort for me to check in.

  47. Marvin Hidalgo

    Is it me or did someone pay irovr people to come here ?

  48. Kat

    Marvin Hidalgo…. I think its just you!!! NO ONE PAYS IROVIANS TO REPRESENT iROVR….WE JUST DO IT BECAUSE WE LOVE THE SITE.

  49. gisele honey.

    I would LOVE this! I am part of the sidekick only one - http://hipalbum.com & i would really love an iphone one!

  50. erik

    Marvin - I think the members are just “passionate elitists”! LOL I certainly am not paying them or giving them any perks. They do really love the site.

  51. ShoNuff

    irovr is to the iPhone what the original Halo was to the Xbox. Huge number of registered users, smooth easy to use interface, friendly folks, and very addicitive. Come on over to the myspace killer.

  52. Lost in 'Bama

    Hehe, Marvin. That’s what people used to think about Ron Paul supporters at first. People all figured they were all on his campaign staff. At least I did until they grew too big for that to be the case.

  53. daytripp

    I wish I got paid to comment bout irovr, but I gladly do it for free because irovr is just that great.
    No other social site out there can compare.
    I’d like to invite everyone with an iPhone or even a safari browser to check it out.. You’ll not be disappointed.

  54. Bronson (M.I.H.)

    iRovr Woohoo :) irovrs perfect

  55. Madam rachel

    http://Www.irovr.com!! Irovr rocks… A main stream that never sleeps, private streams about family, politics,cooking,pets,romance,gossip…it has it all. Irovr is a fun, open minded non-judging community that brings people together no matter sex,age,race or sexual preference. Irovr rocks!

  56. Threshold

    I haven’t tried a bunch — just iRovr, but I love it. It is a friendly community and the development team just rocks — great people and very responsive to the community’s needs!

  57. That Poet Paul

    iRovr is sweet. I’ve tried others but none have been as addictive as iRovr. Apple needs to develops a better battery because I can’t get away from iRovr. E, the creator is east to reach and open to suggestions. In short, DON’T SLEEP ON IROVR!!!

  58. bob cobb

    wtf iRovr spamming :lol:

  59. EH

    I’m not sure Ron Paul is a welcome metaphor!

  60. iBo!

    I support iRovr. I feel it will shake out as being the king of all the iPhone social networks. The layout is excellent, easy to navigate, intuitive, quick and lively and very addicting. It seem to be filled with lots of good people from diverse backgrounds. I am not a paid cheerleader for iRovr. If fact I and many others find it so enjoyable that we donate to keep it growing.

  61. Fox Mulder

    No one can be told what “The iRovr” is. You have to see it for yourself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e2qzmG-CN8

  62. kuldeep

    Another great insight…..thts why we love you, Michael.

  63. JosefVirek

    Holy shit i have to check out this iRovr….

  64. a17n5ni17e

    iRovr is the BEST!! I like the look & the people. Check it out if you haven’t already!

  65. xoost.com

    it would be a success, for sure. apple should do it.

  66. evilbitch

    I love irovr, and i have been to alot of places . And it is warm and friendly.

  67. Lorie

    Ha Michael you crack me up… How you got to where you are I never find out… Your analyses are getting worse everyday… What the heck are you talking about! It’s the biggest mistake to have a service that is hardware/OS specific… unless if you really have a man crush on Steve Jobs…

  68. Lost in 'Bama

    What you don’t like Ron Paul?

  69. CJ

    The idea isn’t bad, a GPS enabled ICQ merged with your contacts and has Twitter capabilities. A java based phone app makes the most sense, I wonder what the Japanese school girls are using.

  70. Vasile

    The iRovr hijacking may have drifted away from the original topic of using location specific information to make a better online community. I somehow doubt that the iPhone SDK will open any ability to determine location specific information. Other phones with GPS are much more likely to do this. However iRovr has proven that the iPhone’s web accessibility anytime, anywhere helps to build a community that is not tied to their desktop. People are getting out and sharing their experiences and meeting up to share common experiences. Location information would make this much easier, but I don’t see Apple providing it anytime soon.

  71. Rajiv Singh

    Looks like dumbass iRovr shills have overrun TechCrunch.

  72. Lost in 'Bama

    Hey don’t call me dumb. I’ve got a Ph.D. A shill maybe, but I’m not dumb.

    Can’t say I much like the idea of friend tracking. Maybe to keep track of your kids or something, but some companies already offer that kind of service.

  73. Phobos

    Myspace sucks and always has. They will continue to be an eyesore as long as they aren’t owned by News Corporation. Facebook is going down the drains as we type.

    http://www.irovr.com is already a successful iPhone networking site and will only continue to get better.

    Now I must head back there!

  74. IP address check please?

    Maybe shills or maybe not, but Ive never heard regular users of a site talk about usability and visual appeal (just tech types or developers).

    If someone at TC could just chime in with IP address data to verify these comments are all from different people, that would certainly help.

  75. Santiago cruz

    irovr is the best thing on my iPhone it is the only reason I still have an iphone. Superman

  76. Michael Arrington

    Lorie:

    “It’s the biggest mistake to have a service that is hardware/OS specific”

    You mean like all Mac products? The xbox? playstation? The benefit of it is that you are in total control of everything.

  77. Michael Arrington

    Guys - enough with the iRovr spam.

  78. firebug44

    haha. if u check out the site and spend a lil time there you’d see all the ppl that hv commented. I have to agree with everything said about irovr. its very addicting and hands down the best iPhone social networking site. friendly ppl always willing to answer ?’s and the site founders r active in streams and always up for suggestions to improve the site. I have tried other sites, none come even close to irovr :)

  79. iJordan H. (ADP)

    This is about sharing, right? Well I used to be addicted to Myspace, but I lost interest because it just didn’t provide unity and diversity that pertained to my adulthood. Sorry, to repeat this, but iRovr is the best find for the iPhone. You’re talking about warm and friendly, yes that’s really the basis of it. Bigotry is banned as well as immaturity. Everyone is a fanatic because we truly love this site. I’ve never been paid to endorse anything, in fact like most of irovr members, we offer money to keep the site growing because this addiction is not going anywhere. Didn’t know I could love my iPhone so much until I ran into this fantastic find. I recommend it to anyone. No better crowd than iRovians!

  80. Jan Scott

    I can not see any social site that includes the idea of being able to locate people all the time as a main feature really catching on. Too may opportunities for abuse unless so restricted to be useless. More likely is either very good interfaces to existing sites or one like IRovr. But I can’t see the original idea catching on at all. The mere fear of it being abused would have that aspect shut down before it had a chance to catch on.

  81. Michael Arrington

    yes, firebug44, I have tried it out and love it to. only way i’ll access the internet from now on. revolutionary. exciting. amazing. etc.

    now stop spamming my site.

  82. Nannyf

    Guys this is not about spamming irovr at all. It is about pointing that far from there being no current successful social network, there is indeed 1 and it is ready waiting for you right now!
    If you have never tried it out for yourself then take a wee while to sign up, you won’t regret it.
    But if after that you feel it is not for you then feel free to come back here and say so. I don’t think many will comment against it once you have tried it!
    I am on Facebook, Bebo, and use them online when at home on my laptop. At present, as has already been said, Facebook points you to its mobile site when accessing it on the iPhone.
    The only social network site I use with my iPhone is irovr, mainly due to the fact it is made for the iphone, to be viewed best on the iPhone, and consists of iPhone/itouch users only. Ok so it doesn’t have GPS but I’m not so sure I want people knowing specifically where I am at any given time, rather prefer them to know I’m in scotland in general. I can give more specific location information if and when I decide to.
    That’s my point of view for what its worth

  83. Lloyd W. Taylor

    I think the time has come for this type of social network.

  84. direk

    yep. their spamming from irovr. mindless losers… i went to irovr using my iphone and when i saw they were looking for people to spam techcrunch to have their presence felt i decided not too.. wow… these guys are buncha losers. are there other options?

  85. startscratch

    iPhone is a great gadget but I think the new nVidia phone is way better.
    http://www. i-guide .ro

  86. Fox Mulder

    “But something tells me that iPhone users might be the first group of people to jump on mobile social networks, and wouldn’t mind letting other iPhone users in the room know they’re part of the cult.” - Michael Arrington

    Any perceived imbalance in comments could be due to an obvious omission that in some cases, with some blogs warrant an update of the article. An overview of Tech blogs that omits Tech Crunch I believe would similarly cause passionate TechCrunch users to be called spammers if they dared use right to comment at the place they are invited to for such an article.

    Would it not be more constructive to notice this kind of activity no matter how flawed in execution for what you yourself said in your own article. Might it not be more constructive to update an article for such an obvious omission. (ie”Social Networking” search on Apple Web Apps brings up the said site of spammers”). I know you don’t want your comments to turn into a “digging” of your comment section but I paraphrase Newton.

    “For every action (including the action of omission), there is an equal and opposite reaction.”

    The Truth is Out There.

    P.S. Here is one for the “iPhone Team” and direk that includes some “other options”

    http://mashable.com/2008/01/16.....the-iphone

  87. iRobert

    Dumb article, overall your lack of research irks me… Noone in the world would volunteer their location through GPS on a social networking site… With all the crazies in life let alone the Internet… Why would anyone want to even develop a site that does that, first bad thing that happpens u would be bankrupted by lawsuits… Also, if you didnt already know there are probably 50 iPhone social networks already on apples site… I have tried a bunch, but as for real life meetups, I think only one of them would qualify for your (standard, whatever). As for iPhone only, I doubt any website could survive as iPhone only, most are available on PC or Mac… irovr is the best one… Too bad everyone that has an iPhone doesn’t know it, if someone feels like they found a goldmine, the common (non iphone elitest) would keep it all to themselves. We’re just trying to share the wealth…

  88. iMaiki

    We don’t go praising irovr because we are paid or mindless morons simply displaying mob behavior. We talk about how awesome irovr is because it truly is a great site that truly fosters a sense of community. I have been a memeber of the site almost from the beginning and have seen it grow and change. Its like no other social networking site and if you really give it chance you will see what a beautiful thing Erik has created.

  89. Hullabamoo

    While I’m not one of the iRovr fanatics, I do agree with some of iRobert’s points, and have posted a response to this article on my site. I’m really surprised that you see GPS tracking and social networking apps as being a benefit at parties.

  90. iRobert

    Your question “will there be a successful iPhone social networking site” , there already are successful sites… This is why your article is receiving so much attention… You know your loving the clicks… Dont turn us away that’s rude, we are not spamming your site just trying to raise your awareness. iPhone elitest is my favorite part of this whole article, kudos for that!!! LOL

  91. iRobert

    smile mike, your frontpage on digg… Thanks to us

  92. ajt

    I heave been using http://www.groovr.com for quite a while, but when the iphone was released they began to design some really nice features around the iphone. I think that if there is any shot for an iphone community that it will be groovr.com.

  93. Lost in 'Bama

    Sorry about all the posts Mike. We’re a talkative bunch.

    Nice article Hullabamoo.

  94. VR Don

    Interesting article.

    I’m not sure how many people I would wan’t knowing where I am instantly - “buddy lojack” style, but if it was something you could turn on and off for the puprose of a party meet-up or other event like that, then it might be fun.

    I do have to wonder Michael, with all of these iRovr comments, how much research you did before writing. I guess if there is a social networking site for the iPhone, (or any other gadget for that matter), that garners this much passion, then it must be worth a look-see. Or at least an addendum to your blog post.

    Wouldn’t you agree?

  95. ITrush

    Hmm very interesting.

  96. David

    This the most ridiculous and most un-researched article i have ever read. The idea to have a GPS tracked community is doomed to fail as soon you start hearing about rapes and molestations in the news. I really hope no social community founder takes this advice seriously.

    The key to any successful community is acceptance. If all members feel like they are part of a welcoming and accepting social community, the basic key elements are in place for something bigger (social interactions, real-life meetings, phone chats etc ).

    MySpace and Facebook lack this element, as its all really just a Friends race to see who has more friends.

    The iPhone is a very advanced device that has enough technological capabilities to keep any fanboy entertained. Combined with a great and friendly community are the key factors for any successful social site.

  97. Mike

    Sorry if you don’t like people chiming in about a great site..

    Michael, your sarcastic remark to firebug is pretty pathetic. If you weren’t so busy trying to make a stupid remark you would notice that you don’t ‘access the internet’ through iRovr. You know this, but for some reason you’re letting it bug you that people are adding a good site to your list.

    Have a good one!

  98. audiopicasso

    Social networking sites are a dime a dozen and none really offer the kind of thing that you want from a site like that, i.e human interaction, like iRovr. Yes, say all you want about us spamming this site, but you have to at least be a little curious about us by now. I’ve been on iRovr since almost as long as I’ve had my iPhone and have tried others that just wasn’t what I was looking for. And, that’s just how it boils down, what are you looking for in a social networking site? Myspace is too “look at me” for my taste and Facebook is kind of boring. Well, you decide, check it out and if after trying it you get a little sense of the enthusiasm that we feel, then we’ll welcome you to iRovr with open arms and open minds.

  99. JosefVirek

    @96, Some communities are more exclusive because members share a common interest, goal or characteristics.

  100. Christy

    I have been a member of http://www.iRovr.com since August 07. I love the site, i am truly addicted. We have truly become a family. The people i have met there have become part of my everyday life. I text them, call them & email regularly. We have group chats almost nightly now. We all tend to share our whole lives with each other. I don’t think anyone else can top what Erik has created. I mean what other creator of a site actually really talks to it’s members?? Erik totally interacts with us all the time. When we suggest something for the site he tries to put it into effect.
    I LOVE iRovr!!

  101. dlove

    I’ve been looking for iPhone sites since I got my iPhone 3 mths ago and still have not found one as good as irovr(irovr) its always open, very easy to nav. Thru site,site owner(s) are involved witch I think is the best.(big ups E. ) the people are friendly none of that bullshit chitter chatter(gang talk,explict pic,racal slurs etc etc.) goin on you can acually ask a real ? And get lots of real answers real shit. But also gives u the option to do the bullshit chitter chatter if u want by creating your own stream. So you can get the best of both worlds on http://www.irovr.com the best iPhone site by apple.(I heard)

  102. David Hersh

    Great. Now we can all walk into a room of people looking at their iPhones instead of talking to each other. Oh, wait…

  103. erik

    Michael Arrington,

    What’s wrong? Don’t like pageviews and unique visitors? I’m sure your advertisers do. I encourage the members of my site to promote us in many ways and sometimes I ask them to visit sites like yours to let our presence be known. I would hardly call it spam, but it’s ‘Easier than Getting Arrington to Link To your Site’.

    I was curious if you actually researched for this article or you happened to be paid by Mo’Blast/Fon11/OpenLandmark to write the article as a prop for their sites. If you were to Google ‘iPhone Social’ prior to this article you would have found a majority of the results pointing to iRovr or articles covering us and a few others.

    Erik

  104. iRobert

    I think being paid is what the article is about, fon11 sucks… Just checked it out, wasted 5 minutes of my life… No interest in that bogus site that’s gonna flush itself down the toilet… Have a good day mike :) enjoy the paycheck, u obviously dont get paid for providing good information.

  105. bob cobb

    erik, it’s clear that there are multiple people spamming this site with iRovr.com crap. I have never used it, and don’t care what it is, but when atleast 50 out of 100 of the comments are about this crap it becomes pretty clear.

  106. erik

    bob cobb - You are correct that a majority of the comments are from our members. I think the reason is; they are surprised an article about iPhone social networks could exclude iRovr, until you consider the fact that the article doesn’t mention anything outside of a single company’s properties. This article is an advertisement, so I highly doubt your experience on TechCrunch has been disturbed by our member evangelism.

  107. Webside Ventures

    An iPhone-only social network would be cool, except I’m the only one out of all my friends that has an iPhone. Until they’re more ubiquitous, I don’t see one catching on any time soon…

  108. Webside Ventures

    …..oh yeah, iRovr sucks balls.

  109. jeremy

    iphone.facebook.com
    when the facebook app comes on the iPhone and android i don’t see a reason for anyone to join something new.

  110. whatever

    Webside Ventures eh?
    Youre a perfect example of sheer stupid and herd mentality. I think the only reason youre the only one out of your friends with an iphone is cause you HAVE NO friends.

    Mr Arrington, for a person thats supposed to have researched different options, you sure are one close minded individual.

  111. whatever

    sheer stupidity*

    This article is a joke.

  112. erik

    Webside Ventures,

    Is that all you have to say? You can’t even write a detailed criticism? Is the website your name links to yours? I’ll take a few moments to criticize it, Steve.

    1) You’re obviously not in for the long-haul. Your coverage of the news you claim to specialize in is spotty at best. Only 10 articles since Feb. 5th? Too busy with your computer science classes at the community college to write often?

    2) Your readership is obviously limited to the companies you are covering, given the only comment on any article since Feb. 5th is by someone at LinkBlip, which you “covered”.

    3) You rely on other sites to provide the news you toss up on your WordPress powered site. Why don’t you just aggregate RSS from all of the sites you are ‘inspired’ by and save yourself the work of having to rewrite their articles without being accused of plagiarism.

    If iRovr sucks balls, it does it like a high-class hooker with an exclusive executive clientele. If WebSide Ventures sucks balls it does so from a van under an overpass for $5 a nut.

  113. Claudio Criscione

    I’m sorry to stop this neat flame ware :-)
    I don’t think this is a joke or a stupid thing. Geolocation enabled communities will be the next (not big, I’d say medium to small) thing, like it or not. The idea of being able to communicate to a selected few (or a bunch of people) where you are in real time it’s handful in a lot of situations. Thing about meeting in crowded places, for instance, but there are a lot of situations where it might be handy.
    At the same time, I don’t think the iPhone is the right platform. It’s lacking both GPS and an SDK (hurry up, Apple!!) so while its user base would surely be ready to jump on the geolocation train (as soon as concerns about rapes and such have faded, and they will) the gadget is not the best one for this kind of work.
    But as soon as the first android powered devices will be out, we’ll see…

  114. Andrew J Scott

    Overall the number of posts to this article very much encourage me (and all our team!) there is obviously huge interest growing in the mobile social space.

    @iRobert “Noone in the world would volunteer their location through GPS on a social networking site… ”

    Well Robert, 65,000 users on our closed beta site clearly disagreed.

    The lack of research -if any- was not in the comments regarding GPS but that there are a host of platforms out there doing this; some well, some badly. Privacy is a huge issue; thats why, at Rummble atleast, we give complete control to the user.

    @Mike “The key to winning is getting users on devices that have GPS or triangulation for presence and location, and having software on the phone instead of just accessing it from a website.”

    …We’re on our way ;-) A Java app with all of the above in testing currently. As for the U.S, yes its a problem but those operators I spoke to at CTIA Wireless last November were talking very positively about LBS and allowing apps onto their networks/handsets. A major change from a year ago.

    Andrew J Scott
    Founder, Rummble

  115. professor

    I never thought that someone over 50 would be comfortable or fit in with a group of younger techies. What a great surprise. Irovr is for everyone all the time.
    Married, single, straight or gay you have a real on line home here. Never thought it could be true but it is.
    If you want to make real and lasting friendships you’ve found the right place. Everything else is just talk.

  116. erik

    Claudio & Andrew J Scott,

    I agree that geo-locating mobile users is a big deal and will be a big part of successful mobile social networks. I don’t think it will be THE reason any site is successful. If the iPhone SDK will provide access to the triangulation featured in the native Google Maps application we have currently, I will undoubtedly be making an effort to integrate that information into iRovr.

    I just have to wonder how useful it will be to the user rather than advertisers. If the general public is led to believe that it’s sole purpose is to help them to know when they are close to one another, they should think again. The holy grail of direct marketing is access to data like this. If my phone is reporting my location and the network gathering this data is providing it to retailers, imagine the possibilities! If I am within a block of a Starbucks… er, scratch that. they’re on every block… If I am at a Starbucks within a block of the nearest Gap and I’m on my mobile social network of choice, I could be pushed a $5 off coupon that’s only good for the next 10 minutes I may very well use it.

    I’m not suggesting that’s a bad use of the data, just wondering why the focus around this topic has been around the idea of finding friends. It’s not. It’s about mobile marketing.

  117. iHype

    Any iPhone-based community shouldn’t have a photo and video sharing feature because iPhone camera is crappy. You can share nice little 3D buttons though.

  118. Bob Braham

    If there was going to be a pervasive mobile social network, iPhone would be the device to ignite it. Major inflection points in high tech require today not only a catalyst like Apple, but an entire infrastructure to support them. The other key pieces provided by players such as Google, Facebook, etc still reside in Silicon Valley. Don’t underestimate the Northern California network.

  119. Scuzzy

    Wow I wanted to share this site called irovr but looks like someone already beat me to it!! LOL

  120. lion

    Making a social network towards a product is destined to fail. If it succeed, it won´t last long. Furthermore, the high lev