When a small start-up goes public, providing screenshots etc, you (or at least I) would expect a release within 3 months but Xindesk have kept us waiting far too long consequently losing our interest for several months.

… If a start-up announces d…

I also think that, while there’s obviously a great deal of disagreement, that these webtops will eventually take root and be used by many people. It’s merely taking all of these web apps that are everywhere and bringing them under the same roof and within the same UI. What’s so wrong with that? They’re gaining popularity in my native Korea and we’re way ahead of the curve with web apps.

I think this is great! I know… completely contradicting most of you “tech people” out there but think about this from a logical stand point.

lets start with the basics… iGoogle. Many of you probably use it or if I know most of you techies out there like I think I do you have been curious and have used it just for the fun of it and maybe made a widget or two. iGoogle… even in it’s simplest form is a Web “OS” if you will. Let me explain…

1. A developer has an idea, uses the tools given to him by google and makes that widget or what I like to call “a simple program”.

2. The user finds your simple program and adds it, or google’s version of installing an application.

To me that seems like the basics of an OS right there, just you don’t get all those hoops of fire involved with developing and deploying an app using windows or apple.

Now this new Web “OS” allows people to develop applications and deploy them and users install them, the difference is you can access this anywhere with any computer that has an internet connection. Effectively making your computer a dumb pipe (think of it as the cell phone networks and the iphone hmmm?)

I think the opportunities with this could be vast, and maybe it’s just because I am a sixteen year old kid who doesn’t understand jack… but I believe I do, and I believe you tech people need to realize the full potential of this and how it could revolutionize the industry… but heck… it is just a sixteen year old nerd talkin so what does he know?

I would explain more but I am tired of typing and have to get to work. Debate amongst yourselves about the possibilities. Feel free to email me at holdenpage@gmail.com if you wish to further this discussion with me (spammers here we come)

o and Ghost…. simplify your register process and your terminology… I understand it and I think the product is magnificent but average joe isn’t gonna care if you don’t provide quick and concise results.. my two cents though

Zvi

Ever since Google launched iGoogle and Google Docs, there’s been an onslaught of companies vying to be the one that’s going to house your web ‘desktop’ or even a full-fledged online Operating System. I think the concept of an o…

Can I transfer MP3s to my iPod with this? Can I load pictures from my digital camera with this? Can I format an external hard drive? Can I burn a CD? Can I edit home digital video? Can I watch a DVD? Can I install new codecs and experience any media I want with this?

No??? Then it really isn’t an OS then, is it. Knock off the hype. OSes provide access to and management of hardware and its resources. This is a freakin’ “shell” at best… not an OS.

Oh, I’m not involved with any webos..
You mistake me for someone else.. the company I’m involved with is into widgets and sering those with on_the_fly xml databases..

From my POV WebOS’s offer no more value than personalised portal pages such as Netvibes and Pageflakes whereas access to a real but virtualised desktop environment like DOD and Cosmopod do have both an immediate attraction and benefit, personally speaking.

I do accept that even these solutions are not absolutely perfect and realise there are compromises even to be had with solutions like them. However I do think because they come out of quite matured and widely developed technologies there is perhaps a better chance of them becoming a closer fit than something purely browser based.

I played with Desktoptwo, for example, a fair bit before DOD came along and while it was great to how well they managed to translate the desktop look and feel I still couldn’t help feeling unsatisfied because I couldn’t really do what I expected to with their online desktop.

For a while I had some involvement with a UK startup that did look at a WebOS offering of their own and the more time we spent looking at the whole thing the less it became clear as to who and what purpose we were trying to serve.

Anyway, I’m not going to add any more on this but do wish you well with Cloudo.

People have to have a local OS. With local apps. For those long cold nights when your connection is down.

Please stop making them.

Also, it’s funny that the same people attacking the webos idea are the same people hailing Google’s online services, when the two are really the same thing in regard to useability.

I mean by that, that Gmail can’t beat a ‘real’ email app written in C, no more than a webos app can - the conditions are identical, technically, arent’ they?
Still a lot of people prefer Gmail.
So, it’s really a question of what the vision is - and if it’s about competing with a real OS, it’s dead in the water - but I dont think that is the general idea here.
- This is a webcentric project.

https://desktopondemand.com

Desktop on demand looks ok, but it looks like a regular VNC Desktop client.
I’m saying somebody should make one with flash VNC so you can access your secure desktop from anywhere.

If you could merge the Flash VNC with desktop on demand. That would be like peanut butter and chocolate.

I’d even use it. Just in case everything in the office suddenly blows up.

I’ve been using the service provided by the people over at Desktop On Demand who have (well until next week at least) have given me access to a remote Gnome desktop via an NX client that has worked brilliantly for me for nearly a year now. It’s a shame they’re closing their Beta service next week (although I think they are relaunching in March - according to an email I got from them).

And then there’s Cosmopod and Ulteo who have the right idea.

I just can’t see what real value these browser based services are going to give. I’m sure someone will put me straight though

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You have to understand that the people they’re aiming for are people that have no computer skills. It’s useless to you and me, but it won’t be useless to ignorant people in an internet cafe.
They’re hoping that those people will eventually become hooked and pay out. Or that the Web OS will eventually integrate into the person’s home desktop once they buy a machine. Think Adobe AIR which is soon coming out of beta.

Where as you have to have several accounts at Youtube, flickr, imageshack, gmail ect… to manage media if you have no machine now, with a virtual desktop you could centralize into 1 account.

I said it once, I will say it again, the person which uses a Flash VNC to make a service, then offers people chroot X Desktops on Ubuntu available from the web will WIN hands down.

/home/users/internetCafeUsers/BobbyFlashVNC_Client/chroot/usr/bin

http://www.whenpenguinsattack......-in-flash/

It would be so much easier too, then trying to abstract a new Desktop type. Plus they could run windows apps with Wine remotely in their sandbox.
That’s the kind of project I would invest in.
An Ubuntu cluster with about 1000 chroot VNC clients per machine, like virtual hosting but for VNC. That would be powerful enough for people to stay on for a lifetime.
The implementation is too hard for the skill level of programmers most of these companies hire though in my opinion. Of course I could do it.

- I still need my desktop OS? right? just to run the browser I guess

- I feel like I am already using a desktop in the sky, it just multiple tabs/windows in browser and not multiple windows in a single html doc