Comments on: Apple Patent For Customized Podcasts http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:16:00 -0800 hourly 1 By: Prior Art « Jonathan Brown :: Code. Culture. Crap. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2590507 Prior Art « Jonathan Brown :: Code. Culture. Crap. Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:58:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2590507 [...] while it’s tough to read stories like this (which I decided to comment on and to my surprise had a few people back me up, including Emile [...] [...] while it’s tough to read stories like this (which I decided to comment on and to my surprise had a few people back me up, including Emile [...]

]]> By: radio and beyond http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2007561 radio and beyond Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:10:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2007561 [...] pensato la Apple, con l'ennesimo rivoluzionario brevetto annunciato da Apple Insider, riportato da TechCrunch e commentato con inarrivabile puntualità da Radiopassioni.  Si tratta in sostanza [...] [...] pensato la Apple, con l’ennesimo rivoluzionario brevetto annunciato da Apple Insider, riportato da TechCrunch e commentato con inarrivabile puntualità da Radiopassioni.  Si tratta in sostanza [...]

]]> By: Marc http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2004481 Marc Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:52:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2004481 Another update, Odiogo would also be prior art in the context of RSS as the source, and text to speech as the output with embedded ads. Another update, Odiogo would also be prior art in the context of RSS as the source, and text to speech as the output with embedded ads.

]]> By: Marc http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2003636 Marc Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:31:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2003636 Ya, it is My Yahoo, the patent states text, audio, or video as a source. Ya, it is My Yahoo, the patent states text, audio, or video as a source.

]]> By: Erik Schwartz http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2003315 Erik Schwartz Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:50:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2003315 <i>“lots of prior art”? </i> Well for one, Foneshow built a prototype of exactly this on our cell phone delivery platform for audio. But we didn't think it was particularly original. The best example of prior art; this is a less abstract version of My Yahoo. Podzinger does the sampling piece. This is patent lawyers out of control. “lots of prior art”?

Well for one, Foneshow built a prototype of exactly this on our cell phone delivery platform for audio. But we didn’t think it was particularly original.

The best example of prior art; this is a less abstract version of My Yahoo.

Podzinger does the sampling piece.

This is patent lawyers out of control.

]]> By: Marc http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2003178 Marc Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:35:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2003178 "lots of prior art"? Like who other than "The Cubicle Escape Pod" and "Gotuit"? 2 != lots. Anyone care to elaborate? “lots of prior art”? Like who other than “The Cubicle Escape Pod” and “Gotuit”? 2 != lots. Anyone care to elaborate?

]]> By: Erik Schwartz http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2003133 Erik Schwartz Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:05:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2003133 There's lots of prior art about this topic. It's a long way from patent filed to patent granted. There’s lots of prior art about this topic. It’s a long way from patent filed to patent granted.

]]> By: Kidd http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002726 Kidd Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:20:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002726 Gotuit has had this technology for years. Apple should look at that company. http://www.gotuit.com Gotuit has had this technology for years. Apple should look at that company. http://www.gotuit.com

]]> By: Adam http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002683 Adam Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:03:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002683 If this is dependent on a "podmap", and if those will ignore pre-roll, internal or post-roll ads, why then would someone publish a podmap? If this is dependent on a “podmap”, and if those will ignore pre-roll, internal or post-roll ads, why then would someone publish a podmap?

]]> By: dot tilde dot http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002673 dot tilde dot Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:55:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002673 people did that in 2003 using ecasound scripts. bleh. .~. people did that in 2003 using ecasound scripts. bleh.

.~.

]]> By: Emile Bourquin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002668 Emile Bourquin Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:50:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002668 Jonathan (10), my first thought on reading this post was "Prior art, the Cubicle Escape guys were doing this long ago". SEO Journal, I believe your statement is incorrect, prior art does not just have to be patented works, it can be things that are just "out in the wild", but I believe they have to be working things, not just ideas. Now, if it becomes Cubicle Escape Pod versus Apple Inc. in a patent dispute, there's no contest, but if a company with pockets as deep as Apple's wants to go head to head with Apple, they could point at Cubicle Escape as prior art. Of course, I am not a lawyer, and everything I have just said could be wrong. Jonathan (10), my first thought on reading this post was “Prior art, the Cubicle Escape guys were doing this long ago”. SEO Journal, I believe your statement is incorrect, prior art does not just have to be patented works, it can be things that are just “out in the wild”, but I believe they have to be working things, not just ideas. Now, if it becomes Cubicle Escape Pod versus Apple Inc. in a patent dispute, there’s no contest, but if a company with pockets as deep as Apple’s wants to go head to head with Apple, they could point at Cubicle Escape as prior art.
Of course, I am not a lawyer, and everything I have just said could be wrong.

]]> By: Ryan Morrison http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002667 Ryan Morrison Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:49:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002667 Just thinking about a side point on this one - if a user can go to iTunes, select five podcasts and have bits taken from each of them and put into another podcast - how much will Apple have to compensate programme makers for lost revenue? A large number of podcasts are now starting to be made with bigger budgets and are getting advertising to cover costs - if a user can just extract bits of that show and put it into an audio file with another - the original podcast producer won't get the ad revenue they deserve as their download numbers will drop due to combined podcast - or am I missing something? Also - I doubt companies like CNN and Sky would want their content stripped and put somewhere else. More interesting would be a way for users to create their own 'podcast playlists' or 'virtual radio stations' where they can select their favourite 10 podcasts, record audio to introduce each one and put it out there as a virtual station - a way for newcomers to podcasts to discover shows they might like easily. Just thinking about a side point on this one – if a user can go to iTunes, select five podcasts and have bits taken from each of them and put into another podcast – how much will Apple have to compensate programme makers for lost revenue?

A large number of podcasts are now starting to be made with bigger budgets and are getting advertising to cover costs – if a user can just extract bits of that show and put it into an audio file with another – the original podcast producer won’t get the ad revenue they deserve as their download numbers will drop due to combined podcast – or am I missing something?

Also – I doubt companies like CNN and Sky would want their content stripped and put somewhere else.

More interesting would be a way for users to create their own ‘podcast playlists’ or ‘virtual radio stations’ where they can select their favourite 10 podcasts, record audio to introduce each one and put it out there as a virtual station – a way for newcomers to podcasts to discover shows they might like easily.

]]> By: Velioncho http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002665 Velioncho Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:47:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002665 not a great idea, does not warrant a patent.you do not need patent for silly stuff. this is one of those. not a great idea, does not warrant a patent.you do not need patent for silly stuff. this is one of those.

]]> By: Search Engine Optimization Journal http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002651 Search Engine Optimization Journal Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:16:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002651 To the post above - it seems that's many people think of great ideas before these big corporate bigwigs do but if they are the first to put their actual name on it, then it's rightfully theirs. They sure have the money and people dedicated to filing these patents! To the post above – it seems that’s many people think of great ideas before these big corporate bigwigs do but if they are the first to put their actual name on it, then it’s rightfully theirs. They sure have the money and people dedicated to filing these patents!

]]> By: Jonathan Brown http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002576 Jonathan Brown Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:15:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002576 I had a podcast called The Cubicle Escape Pod (cubicleescape.com, it's still a live site) in which we were doing this back in June 2005. We called our technology Modcast. Our system would allow listeners to toggle on segments of our show and receive a custom tailored version. We could even target a subset of listeners or individuals. We used it a few times to respond directly to listeners regarding their email feedback. We also used it to create a public (non-register) version of the show and a registered user version-- the registered version had more content and less talk about registering on the website. There were a few other podcasts doing it around the time we were. I believe we were the first to do it. I had a podcast called The Cubicle Escape Pod (cubicleescape.com, it’s still a live site) in which we were doing this back in June 2005. We called our technology Modcast. Our system would allow listeners to toggle on segments of our show and receive a custom tailored version. We could even target a subset of listeners or individuals. We used it a few times to respond directly to listeners regarding their email feedback. We also used it to create a public (non-register) version of the show and a registered user version– the registered version had more content and less talk about registering on the website. There were a few other podcasts doing it around the time we were. I believe we were the first to do it.

]]> By: James Gardiner http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002541 James Gardiner Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:57:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002541 This is not worth the bits it duplicated on my screen with. It is ether to general and cannot really be held up, or most likely has already been tried and experimented with by web 2.0 companies. Try ing to apply for a patient on how to eat spaghetti is as stupid as this also sounds. James This is not worth the bits it duplicated on my screen with.
It is ether to general and cannot really be held up, or most likely has already been tried and experimented with by web 2.0 companies.

Try ing to apply for a patient on how to eat spaghetti is as stupid as this also sounds.

James

]]> By: makes sense http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002477 makes sense Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:40:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002477 Isn't this what stitcher does? Isn’t this what stitcher does?

]]> By: George http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002413 George Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:42:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002413 It seems to me that apple has a bit of a patent troll streak, they seem to have a team dedicated to patenting everything they can possibly think of. It may just be good defense though, make sure that they don't get sued by patent trolls. It seems to me that apple has a bit of a patent troll streak, they seem to have a team dedicated to patenting everything they can possibly think of. It may just be good defense though, make sure that they don’t get sued by patent trolls.

]]> By: Chad http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002411 Chad Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:39:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002411 I agree you can't come down on apple for putting a patent on something they created. That is just good business I agree you can’t come down on apple for putting a patent on something they created. That is just good business

]]> By: fernando http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002393 fernando Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:54:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002393 @Dallas: C'mon...You're faulting Apple for filling a patent, objecting because now someone else cannot come up with the idea and patent it themselves? Does this arguement make sense? Who then should file patents? @Dallas: C’mon…You’re faulting Apple for filling a patent, objecting because now someone else cannot come up with the idea and patent it themselves? Does this arguement make sense? Who then should file patents?

]]> By: Phillip Molly Malone http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002387 Phillip Molly Malone Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:51:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002387 Further to my comment, notice this point in the document: "[0055]Further, a personalized podcast could contain other content. For example, advertisements can be presented on the media playback device, such advertisements can be provided between requested content segments and can include one or more of text, audio or video. Also, a media playback device might be able to concurrently output the requested personalized podcast content as well as other content (music, ads, etc.) during certain segments. " They stole my idea! Oh well, I could never have pulled it off anyway! Go Apple. Molly PS. How much are Apple paying the TV show House for product placement? Man the iPhone place in the last episode wasn't even trying to be suttle! Further to my comment, notice this point in the document:
“[0055]Further, a personalized podcast could contain other content. For example, advertisements can be presented on the media playback device, such advertisements can be provided between requested content segments and can include one or more of text, audio or video. Also, a media playback device might be able to concurrently output the requested personalized podcast content as well as other content (music, ads, etc.) during certain segments. ”

They stole my idea! Oh well, I could never have pulled it off anyway! Go Apple.

Molly
PS. How much are Apple paying the TV show House for product placement? Man the iPhone place in the last episode wasn’t even trying to be suttle!

]]> By: Phillip Molly Malone http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002383 Phillip Molly Malone Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:45:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002383 Interesting! I once mentioned something like this but image it in this way. You grab the podcast for say a morning radio show type podcast. One where you would have talking and you would want to have music breaking up the podcast. Problem is, you can't put Main stream media in a podcast, can you! So, instead the system (like this one described) would allow you to take section 1, then pick a song from your library (maybe suggested by the shows owner/producers), then section 2, another song, Section 3, Another song, so on and so on. This way shows that work better with music breaks could take on Music. I don't see why adding music to these self created podcasts would be technically impossible (there just another audio file) and if you had already bought it off iTunes, apple would know about it and make it available too you. Wow, interesting! Molly Interesting! I once mentioned something like this but image it in this way. You grab the podcast for say a morning radio show type podcast. One where you would have talking and you would want to have music breaking up the podcast. Problem is, you can’t put Main stream media in a podcast, can you! So, instead the system (like this one described) would allow you to take section 1, then pick a song from your library (maybe suggested by the shows owner/producers), then section 2, another song, Section 3, Another song, so on and so on.

This way shows that work better with music breaks could take on Music. I don’t see why adding music to these self created podcasts would be technically impossible (there just another audio file) and if you had already bought it off iTunes, apple would know about it and make it available too you.

Wow, interesting!
Molly

]]> By: Dallas J Clark http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002380 Dallas J Clark Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:41:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002380 it's another patent they own that stops others from creating that though it’s another patent they own that stops others from creating that though

]]> By: JeffC http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/comment-page-1/#comment-2002373 JeffC Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:26:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/21/interesting-apple-patent-for-customized-podcasts/#comment-2002373 At first glance, doesn't seem like something consumers will jump for joy over. Will it really make a big difference in my daily web life? Nah. At first glance, doesn’t seem like something consumers will jump for joy over. Will it really make a big difference in my daily web life? Nah.

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