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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft-Yahoo Battle Getting Expensive.  Should Microsoft Give Up?</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Investor Activist Urges Yahoo Shareholders To Split The Difference Between Icahn’s Board Picks and Yahoo’s : EYJE.NET BLOG OF GREAT POSTS</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2414354</link>
		<dc:creator>Investor Activist Urges Yahoo Shareholders To Split The Difference Between Icahn’s Board Picks and Yahoo’s : EYJE.NET BLOG OF GREAT POSTS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] directors and Carl Icahn&#8217;s alternative slate. If a majority of the board is replaced, the poison-pill severance package might be triggered. So Jackson is recommending that shareholders vote for four of Icahn&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] directors and Carl Icahn&#8217;s alternative slate. If a majority of the board is replaced, the poison-pill severance package might be triggered. So Jackson is recommending that shareholders vote for four of Icahn&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Investor Activist Urges Yahoo Shareholders To Split The Difference Between Icahn’s Board Picks and Yahoo’s</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2414212</link>
		<dc:creator>Investor Activist Urges Yahoo Shareholders To Split The Difference Between Icahn’s Board Picks and Yahoo’s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] directors and Carl Icahn&#8217;s alternative slate. If a majority of the board is replaced, the poison-pill severance package might be triggered. So Jackson is recommending that shareholders vote for four of Icahn&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] directors and Carl Icahn&#8217;s alternative slate. If a majority of the board is replaced, the poison-pill severance package might be triggered. So Jackson is recommending that shareholders vote for four of Icahn&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Investor Activist Urges Yahoo Shareholders To Split The Difference Between Icahn&#8217;s Board Picks and Yahoo&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2414205</link>
		<dc:creator>Investor Activist Urges Yahoo Shareholders To Split The Difference Between Icahn&#8217;s Board Picks and Yahoo&#8217;s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] directors and Carl Icahn&#8217;s alternative slate. If a majority of the board is replaced, the poison-pill severance package might be triggered. So Jackson is recommending that shareholders vote for four of Icahn&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] directors and Carl Icahn&#8217;s alternative slate. If a majority of the board is replaced, the poison-pill severance package might be triggered. So Jackson is recommending that shareholders vote for four of Icahn&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nitsuj</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001913</link>
		<dc:creator>nitsuj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin_Australia has successfully bid on the correct</description>
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		<title>By: linebloo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001687</link>
		<dc:creator>linebloo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www. i - guide .ro
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		<title>By: GBC</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001662</link>
		<dc:creator>GBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the changes to vesting and severance alone are a major breach by Yahoo's directors of their fiduciary duties. I suspect we will find that out before too long as they are setting themselves up nicely for shareholder lawsuits based on those actions. 

The board appears to be doing this more to protect their board seats and to get MS to go away rather than trying to get MS to raise their bid (which I think breaches those previously mentioned "Revlon duties").</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the changes to vesting and severance alone are a major breach by Yahoo&#8217;s directors of their fiduciary duties. I suspect we will find that out before too long as they are setting themselves up nicely for shareholder lawsuits based on those actions. </p>
<p>The board appears to be doing this more to protect their board seats and to get MS to go away rather than trying to get MS to raise their bid (which I think breaches those previously mentioned &#8220;Revlon duties&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: YDRIVE</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001516</link>
		<dc:creator>YDRIVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft is always great and will continue to be great. Yahoo!, while also great, can do better, and must.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft is always great and will continue to be great. Yahoo!, while also great, can do better, and must.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin_Australia</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001509</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin_Australia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Jennifer Davis (Comment 26) and other Microsoft haters:

Quote from Jennifer - "Both companies are struggling, but any path I can see from here will end badly for all parties." What planet are you on or should I say drugs? 

Against industry trends and the constant parroting of naysayers like Jennifer Microsoft continues to grow and grow. Microsoft just recently posted 15% growth in Net revenue up from USD$44b to USD$51b and growth of 12% in Net income up from USD$12.6b to USD$14.1b. Apple dissappointed and so did Google but Microsoft beat all analyst expectations and the ignorant naysayers. Let's see - Google is a one trick company - they have monetised search, nothing else. Apple - Mac OS only accounts for 3% of computers desktop operating systems and Linux 1% but you wouldn't think so from all the anti Microsoft comments from people living in fairy land. Microsoft is the only constant in the business and they continue to grow! 

Microsoft is not even remotely close to a company who does not continue to innovate, invest, acquire and deliver wanted products and technologies. 

Linux was meant to be the death of Microsoft = Linux market share has been going backwards. 

Microsoft has come from nowhere and is now considered one of the top 3 players in Business Intelligence - Gartner report. They are now also considered a leader in Unified Communications as well.

Microsoft invests USD$6.5b on R&#38;D this year and it continues to make good and successful acquisitions. Examples - aQuantive, Danger (Mobile) and many many others. 

The latest report of Open Source Office Apps and Google Apps see only 0.03% of US consumers switching to office apps in the cloud and against this Microsoft has posted record growth in Office sales. 

More than 50m mobile phones with Windows Mobile are being shipped with growth of more than 300% per annum - how many iPhones were sold!? No comparison. 

The board of directors of Yahoo! are legally bound to maximise value for their shareholders nothing else and the offer by Microsoft is the best option for the future of Yahoo!. Wall Street has already said they would support a bid up to $35 per share and anyone who thinks it won't happen demonstrate their inability for rational thought.

So before you continue to make uniformed and ignorant comments - get some facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Jennifer Davis (Comment 26) and other Microsoft haters:</p>
<p>Quote from Jennifer - &#8220;Both companies are struggling, but any path I can see from here will end badly for all parties.&#8221; What planet are you on or should I say drugs? </p>
<p>Against industry trends and the constant parroting of naysayers like Jennifer Microsoft continues to grow and grow. Microsoft just recently posted 15% growth in Net revenue up from USD$44b to USD$51b and growth of 12% in Net income up from USD$12.6b to USD$14.1b. Apple dissappointed and so did Google but Microsoft beat all analyst expectations and the ignorant naysayers. Let&#8217;s see - Google is a one trick company - they have monetised search, nothing else. Apple - Mac OS only accounts for 3% of computers desktop operating systems and Linux 1% but you wouldn&#8217;t think so from all the anti Microsoft comments from people living in fairy land. Microsoft is the only constant in the business and they continue to grow! </p>
<p>Microsoft is not even remotely close to a company who does not continue to innovate, invest, acquire and deliver wanted products and technologies. </p>
<p>Linux was meant to be the death of Microsoft = Linux market share has been going backwards. </p>
<p>Microsoft has come from nowhere and is now considered one of the top 3 players in Business Intelligence - Gartner report. They are now also considered a leader in Unified Communications as well.</p>
<p>Microsoft invests USD$6.5b on R&amp;D this year and it continues to make good and successful acquisitions. Examples - aQuantive, Danger (Mobile) and many many others. </p>
<p>The latest report of Open Source Office Apps and Google Apps see only 0.03% of US consumers switching to office apps in the cloud and against this Microsoft has posted record growth in Office sales. </p>
<p>More than 50m mobile phones with Windows Mobile are being shipped with growth of more than 300% per annum - how many iPhones were sold!? No comparison. </p>
<p>The board of directors of Yahoo! are legally bound to maximise value for their shareholders nothing else and the offer by Microsoft is the best option for the future of Yahoo!. Wall Street has already said they would support a bid up to $35 per share and anyone who thinks it won&#8217;t happen demonstrate their inability for rational thought.</p>
<p>So before you continue to make uniformed and ignorant comments - get some facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Stanton Champion</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001406</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanton Champion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Yahoo! and Microsoft Merger...&lt;/strong&gt;

I haven&#8217;t written anything about the Yahoo!/Microsoft deal yet, but this post on TechCrunch sums up some of the problems nicely.
In short, Yahoo! still has some very popular properties, and this is one of the reasons Microsoft feels like the two ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Yahoo! and Microsoft Merger&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t written anything about the Yahoo!/Microsoft deal yet, but this post on TechCrunch sums up some of the problems nicely.<br />
In short, Yahoo! still has some very popular properties, and this is one of the reasons Microsoft feels like the two &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nitsuj</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001402</link>
		<dc:creator>nitsuj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Im a fan of Yahoo and dont want it to be handed to the monkeyboy"

You do realize they already handed it back to him (Yang)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Im a fan of Yahoo and dont want it to be handed to the monkeyboy&#8221;</p>
<p>You do realize they already handed it back to him (Yang)?</p>
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		<title>By: whoopie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001393</link>
		<dc:creator>whoopie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is all coming down to yahoo's board election.

if msft can replace the board, game over.

if msft "suggested" pro-merger board members can't get elected, then msft should count this as a loss and stop wasting time and money

you have to wonder how much of this is just coming down to ceo egos

jerry thinks he can "save" yahoo. why else would he put up such a fight? this is going beyond fiduciary responsibility. the law does not compel a firm to take a "scorched earth" approach.

ballmer wants something noteworthy on his resume. he has good profits on the books but i sense he wants something more singularly associated with him tenue. he has made it clear he wants this deal done...even in the face of msft losing so much value, you have to wonder why he is going on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is all coming down to yahoo&#8217;s board election.</p>
<p>if msft can replace the board, game over.</p>
<p>if msft &#8220;suggested&#8221; pro-merger board members can&#8217;t get elected, then msft should count this as a loss and stop wasting time and money</p>
<p>you have to wonder how much of this is just coming down to ceo egos</p>
<p>jerry thinks he can &#8220;save&#8221; yahoo. why else would he put up such a fight? this is going beyond fiduciary responsibility. the law does not compel a firm to take a &#8220;scorched earth&#8221; approach.</p>
<p>ballmer wants something noteworthy on his resume. he has good profits on the books but i sense he wants something more singularly associated with him tenue. he has made it clear he wants this deal done&#8230;even in the face of msft losing so much value, you have to wonder why he is going on</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Larsson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001341</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Larsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like a voting option for:

* Get out now and make a new offer at $12/share in 18 months

Also. NEVER would google be allowed to buy another major search company!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like a voting option for:</p>
<p>* Get out now and make a new offer at $12/share in 18 months</p>
<p>Also. NEVER would google be allowed to buy another major search company!</p>
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		<title>By: !</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001299</link>
		<dc:creator>!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all those who think this will distract yahoo and MS will win, it not only distracts yahoo but all MS and thier roadmaps. The ppl running these companies arent stupid enuf not to realise the distraction. Thats why there is big retention packages/bonuses. Ofcourse, this is only one of the factor. Even during replying to the bid, u saw yahoo acquire 2 companies, release a new buig zimbra version,oneconnect,live(it sucked, but nonethless) and also Ms made an acquisition.
If the merger goes thru i dont think MS wud be stupif enuff to spend all the time porting yahoo platforms and losing the time to battle with google, although it cud happen in parallel slowly. It wud be a chance for MS to embrace open source finally after killing everybody(including perhaos yahoo?).

Personally, I dont want this merger to go thru. Im a fan of Yahoo and dont want it to be handed to the monkeyboy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all those who think this will distract yahoo and MS will win, it not only distracts yahoo but all MS and thier roadmaps. The ppl running these companies arent stupid enuf not to realise the distraction. Thats why there is big retention packages/bonuses. Ofcourse, this is only one of the factor. Even during replying to the bid, u saw yahoo acquire 2 companies, release a new buig zimbra version,oneconnect,live(it sucked, but nonethless) and also Ms made an acquisition.<br />
If the merger goes thru i dont think MS wud be stupif enuff to spend all the time porting yahoo platforms and losing the time to battle with google, although it cud happen in parallel slowly. It wud be a chance for MS to embrace open source finally after killing everybody(including perhaos yahoo?).</p>
<p>Personally, I dont want this merger to go thru. Im a fan of Yahoo and dont want it to be handed to the monkeyboy</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001289</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, after yahoo tanks, google should offer to buy them for $10B, then a merger with google will leave M$ in a very distant last place

Winner: google as always!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, after yahoo tanks, google should offer to buy them for $10B, then a merger with google will leave M$ in a very distant last place</p>
<p>Winner: google as always!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001286</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M$ has already lost more than $44B in stocks since the hostile takeover announcement. From $34 to $28 you do the math.

So, they didn't get Yahoo and they already lost $44B

I feel good</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M$ has already lost more than $44B in stocks since the hostile takeover announcement. From $34 to $28 you do the math.</p>
<p>So, they didn&#8217;t get Yahoo and they already lost $44B</p>
<p>I feel good</p>
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		<title>By: dotdotdot</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001265</link>
		<dc:creator>dotdotdot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heres a novel idea for some of those share holders. Stock is already above the "basic" offer MS made originally, since well, there share prices have fell. Go sell now, get out with almost 30.00 per share and call it a day, if you don't, well thats your bad. People need to realize stock in tech companies is NOT a fast cash payday. They need to be looked in the long run. Y! is the number 1 web hoster in the united states with more then 1.5 million customers and growing. Y! is not just about search, when people get this through their heads and stop worrying so much about google, they will be better off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heres a novel idea for some of those share holders. Stock is already above the &#8220;basic&#8221; offer MS made originally, since well, there share prices have fell. Go sell now, get out with almost 30.00 per share and call it a day, if you don&#8217;t, well thats your bad. People need to realize stock in tech companies is NOT a fast cash payday. They need to be looked in the long run. Y! is the number 1 web hoster in the united states with more then 1.5 million customers and growing. Y! is not just about search, when people get this through their heads and stop worrying so much about google, they will be better off.</p>
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		<title>By: Hendra</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001199</link>
		<dc:creator>Hendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yahoo may get distracted with all this take over attempts and lose focus on the business itself. Mugro$0ft is really a big bully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo may get distracted with all this take over attempts and lose focus on the business itself. Mugro$0ft is really a big bully.</p>
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		<title>By: John C. McClore</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001159</link>
		<dc:creator>John C. McClore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft should merge with Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft should merge with Google.</p>
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		<title>By: damon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/microsoft-yahoo-battle-getting-expensive-should-microsoft-give-up/#comment-2001125</link>
		<dc:creator>damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to: folks who were just layed off from yahoo
subject: sorry, but the new severance package is not retroactive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to: folks who were just layed off from yahoo<br />
subject: sorry, but the new severance package is not retroactive</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Gekko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Gekko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All these stupid measurd mean nothing if MSFT controls the board.

Yang will be out on his ass and all these poison pill maneuvers will be reversed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these stupid measurd mean nothing if MSFT controls the board.</p>
<p>Yang will be out on his ass and all these poison pill maneuvers will be reversed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas J Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallas J Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrew That's what I thought

I do believe Microsoft would make Yahoo kick ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrew That&#8217;s what I thought</p>
<p>I do believe Microsoft would make Yahoo kick ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erick - 

While I agree that this will definitely hurt Microsoft in the near term, your analysis is not entirely correct here.  Note that saying severance package cost of $1B-$3B wipes out the entire $1B in cost savings is not correct.  The $1B+ savings is recurring, i.e. every year savings, not one-time.  It's impossible to assume when these severance packages will flow through, but you can be certain that they will all conclude by 24 months following closure of the deal...savings will remain $1B constant, assuming Microsoft actually gets these savings.  Nonetheless I agree with most of what you say - it's going to be near impossible for Yahoo to dig out of this hole.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erick - </p>
<p>While I agree that this will definitely hurt Microsoft in the near term, your analysis is not entirely correct here.  Note that saying severance package cost of $1B-$3B wipes out the entire $1B in cost savings is not correct.  The $1B+ savings is recurring, i.e. every year savings, not one-time.  It&#8217;s impossible to assume when these severance packages will flow through, but you can be certain that they will all conclude by 24 months following closure of the deal&#8230;savings will remain $1B constant, assuming Microsoft actually gets these savings.  Nonetheless I agree with most of what you say - it&#8217;s going to be near impossible for Yahoo to dig out of this hole.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both companies are struggling, but any path I can see from here will end badly for all parties.  I blogged about this earlier at http://jenniferbdavis.blogspot.com/2008/02/destroying-greenhouse.html.

Perhaps the whole thing was a ploy to get more of the key engineering resources at Yahoo to leave for Facebook and strengthen Microsoft's investment there. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both companies are struggling, but any path I can see from here will end badly for all parties.  I blogged about this earlier at <a href="http://jenniferbdavis.blogspot.com/2008/02/destroying-greenhouse.html" rel="nofollow">http://jenniferbdavis.blogspot.....house.html</a>.</p>
<p>Perhaps the whole thing was a ploy to get more of the key engineering resources at Yahoo to leave for Facebook and strengthen Microsoft&#8217;s investment there. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Menashe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Menashe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were SteveB, I would do the following:

1. Get Yahoo into a long fight so that 
a) their best employees leave (MS can hire them directly perhaps)
b) they lose their focus off Search, Mail, IM and Portal and of course their display business
c) their shareholders get upset with them
d) their share tanks

2. Bail out of the deal within 90 days, declaring that MS has decided that given YHOO/Yang's irrational and irresponsible behaviour, MS has no longer interest in Yahoo's assets

3. Declare instead that MS has decided to invest 50% of that amount - $20B in its own assets: Windows Live, MSN and future services/brands (Silverlight, etc.)

Results
A. Yahoo's tanking.  MS will take over 2nd place.
B. Google loses the opportunity to partner with a sinking Yahoo.
C. MS shareholders become happy and send the stock skyrocketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were SteveB, I would do the following:</p>
<p>1. Get Yahoo into a long fight so that<br />
a) their best employees leave (MS can hire them directly perhaps)<br />
b) they lose their focus off Search, Mail, IM and Portal and of course their display business<br />
c) their shareholders get upset with them<br />
d) their share tanks</p>
<p>2. Bail out of the deal within 90 days, declaring that MS has decided that given YHOO/Yang&#8217;s irrational and irresponsible behaviour, MS has no longer interest in Yahoo&#8217;s assets</p>
<p>3. Declare instead that MS has decided to invest 50% of that amount - $20B in its own assets: Windows Live, MSN and future services/brands (Silverlight, etc.)</p>
<p>Results<br />
A. Yahoo&#8217;s tanking.  MS will take over 2nd place.<br />
B. Google loses the opportunity to partner with a sinking Yahoo.<br />
C. MS shareholders become happy and send the stock skyrocketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft should stick to its focus and cancel the bid: 

Microsoft is a software engineering company / software publishing company. MS needs to focus on its core software products.

Yahoo is a media publishing company.

If I were a MS shareholder, I would bail out.

Moreover, MS won't be allowed (anti-trust) to do anything with Yahoo in the sense of integrating the brand in Windows.

This seems like a headache for MS, and an interesting valuation of Yahoo, considering MS' valuation of Facebook.

Nate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft should stick to its focus and cancel the bid: </p>
<p>Microsoft is a software engineering company / software publishing company. MS needs to focus on its core software products.</p>
<p>Yahoo is a media publishing company.</p>
<p>If I were a MS shareholder, I would bail out.</p>
<p>Moreover, MS won&#8217;t be allowed (anti-trust) to do anything with Yahoo in the sense of integrating the brand in Windows.</p>
<p>This seems like a headache for MS, and an interesting valuation of Yahoo, considering MS&#8217; valuation of Facebook.</p>
<p>Nate</p>
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