February 19, 2008

Hijacking Search: Surf Canyon and ManagedQ Rethink The Search Experience

Erick Schonfeld

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surf-canyon-supersmall.pngCreating a new search engine seems like a futile exercise. If Yahoo and Microsoft cannot compete with Google in search, what chance does a startup have? So instead of creating new search engines, we are starting to see the rise of search applications that sit on top of existing search engines.

Two recent examples are Surf Canyon, which publicly launched its browser add-on today, and ManagedQ, which launched its own site quietly a few weeks ago. I’ve been playing around with both for about a week. They both offer improvements to the pared-down search interface that we are all used to and point to areas where search can be made better. Not bad for two startups without any venture capital (Surf Canyon has raised $250,000 in angel money, and ManagedQ is run out of the founder’s basement in Palo Alto). Still, while both point in the right direction, neither one comes close to offering a better overall search experience than Google does on its own.

surf-canyon-logho.pngSurf Canyon is an application that sits on top of regular search results. The startup has its own Website where you can conduct searches, but the browser add-on makes it much more practical to use. The add-on is for either Firefox or Internet Explorer, and essentially allows you to re-order search results on Google, Yahoo, or Windows Live Search. (Google doesn’t like it when other Websites re-order its search rankings, but Surf Canyon doesn’t rely on Google’s APIs to do what it does and thus feels that it is not bound by Google’s restrictions).

surf-canyon-4.pngWhenever you do a search, a little bullseye icon appears at the right of each result. If you click on the bullseye, Surf Canyon inserts three recommended search results that are similar to the one you clicked on. They appear indented under the result you are trying to drill down into. For instance, if you search for “techcrunch,” the three recommended results might be a link to TechCrunch UK, Crunchgear, and the TechCrunch Tech President Primaries (the recommended results change over time, even for the same search). You can drill down two more times within the recommended results to keep on refining your search. So if you click on the bullseye again next to one of the recommended links, you might get a link to TechCrunch on Amazon’s Kindle store from page 8 of the regular Google results, a mention in the NYTimes Bits blog from page 12, or a link to the TechCrunch Facebook group from page 5.

The results are hit or miss. Surf Canyon basically gets three chances per click to come up with a relevant recommendation. In general, it comes closer than if you hit the “Similar pages” link that Google provides with every search result, but it still feels pretty random. Showing more than three recommended results would help. But what I like best about Surf Canyon is the interface. It doesn’t take you to another Web page. The recommended results just appear underneath the appropriate link. It feels more like an application than a cumbersome Website where you have to click through multiple pages to find what you want. Google could take a lesson in interface design from Surf Canyon here with all of its Ajax goodness.

managedq-logo.pngManagedQ takes the more radical approach. It rethought the entire user interface to make it much more visual. Explains founder David Stat:

Search hasn’t changed in a decade. Result quality has improved, but what you see has not changed. The search interface has remained stagnant at the command level, So why not a search application, rather than create a search engine, we can sit on top of the results of any search engine. Currently we use Google.

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managed-q-sidebar.pngEvery time you do a search on ManagedQ, a grid appears on the right of the first six results so you can visually see what is on the other side of what is normally a blue link. If you click on one of the images, it opens up a larger, browsable window still within ManagedQ. The idea is that you can surf the Web without leaving the search application.

Presenting search results visually is nothing new. Sites like ViewFour have been doing it for years. But ManagedQ combines the visual search with a guided search experience.

On the left is a list of persons, places, and things to help you refine your search. ManagedQ uses natural language processing (NLP) to extract the main concepts from the entire search bin. And it does this very fast, in a distributed way using peer-to-peer technology. One of the drawbacks of NLP system is that they take a lot of time to parse and chunk large data sets. ManagedQ solves that problem.

When you click on a name or concept on the left, it is highlighted wherever it appears in the miniature Web pages on the right. So ManagedQ gives you a guided search experience with suggested terms that help you narrow your search. If you search for “Barack Obama,” it will suggest related people like “John Edwards,” “Hillary Clinton,” and “John McCain,” as well as other related search terms: “Harvard University,” “Keynote address,” Voting Record,” “Early life,” and “Senate career.”

The major drawback to ManagedQ is that if you want to see beyond the first result grid, you have to hit a “Next” button at the bottom. When you try to refine a search using one of the guided terms on the left, instead of bringing up the search results that contain that term, you are stuck with the existing grid half-filled with grayed-out boxes that say “No matches” on them. You have to click through the result set to find to find Web pages that match, in which case the terms are highlighted. (For more on ManagedQ, watch the tutorial).

That flaw alone makes ManagedQ not much more than an interesting experiment at this point. Searching Google is still much faster and gets you the results you want more directly. But again, Google can learn something here. Why not offer a decent-sized image of each Website next to search results to give searchers a visual cue as to what resides on the other side of that link? It is that extra little piece of information that, in some cases but not all, could help people sort through search results easier.

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  1. Robert Reynolds

    I’m interested in the business logic. Are the founders here looking to create actual viable businesses or consider these more R&D efforts? Or is the R&D effort the business model?

    I ask because while both offer small functional advantages over traditional search alternatives, they appear to me to be on dead evolutionary paths as businesses.

    From an R&D perspective I suppose a small return on the investment wouldn’t be all that shocking - if they can get someone with a much larger user base to to pick up the tech and incorporate it into their own solution. The downside is that the tech doesn’t look all that hard to replicate.

  2. bernd

    andUNITE.com follows a different path. It is turning every search engine into a meeting place by collecting the search terms of an user. This means that andUNITE does not focus on search results of a search engine but on the search terms that are entered.

    It is very early beta but it will be officially launched with a complete new software and design in early March.

  3. LiveCrunch

    I still like google :)

  4. Sol

    ManagedQ reminds me a lot of what SNAP tried to do with their search engine. It seems like they had a tough time and moved to Snap Preview Anywhere (which was brilliant).

  5. dave

    oh - hijacking search! i thought that you were going to talk about verizon’s practice of hijacking domain entry errors and pushing users into their white label search engine…

  6. Erick Schonfeld

    These are definitely R&D efforts at this point. In search, there is no business without scale. But I could see targeted paid search ads being coupled with the targeted recommendations that Surf Canyon offers, for instance. ManagedQ could also offer sponsored results in a visually interesting way.

  7. Graeme Thickins

    Erick, have you looked at “social search” startups yet? like Delver and iLeonardo, which both launched at DEMO last month…

    just wonderin’
    g

  8. Nat

    Search canyon look promising i can say, if they can combined with human query like mahalo, i don’t have to leave google when searching all i have to do is click tha bulleyes logo and human query answer it.

    Nat
    http://www.workersinc.com

  9. Tony

    ManagedQ was awesome. I tried it out in Safari and it was very fast.

    They have another feature not mentioned in the article that lets you start typing and ManagedQ instantly finds matches in the results. This will save me lots of time. So post query, I just type my related words and i don’t even have to explore the results, I just see the matches. That’s cool.

    –T

  10. Lynn

    I checked out ManagedQ - not bad! Although I’ll probably keep using google for my regular searches (you can’t beat the ease of the toolbar) managedq looks like a great alternative for more sophisticated searches. I like the pretty interface (I can’t help myself) and knowing that I can refine my google searches in new ways is always a good thing.

    I’m using it in Firefox and it is definitely fast.

    Cool is definitely the adjective of choice here…

  11. myVdister

    For one of my sites the screen shoot is almost two years old! That alone turned me off. The screen shot should be a fresh as google’s cache.

  12. Lynn

    Update: Just downloaded the ManagedQ search toolbar. Definitely changes things. (http://beta2.managedq.com/conversion.php)

    Might not go back to google for searching… just for googlemaps!

  13. Lauren

    Surfcanyon:
    this was an interesting idea, and could certainly be useful for just free-browsing the web when you happen upon something interesting and want to know more about it. while this is just a new implementation of an old concept, i do like the implementation - seamlessly integrated into google results

    ManagedQ:
    i poked around their site a bit and found some interesting stuff in their blog. one thing that stood out for me, as a techie, was that you can use regex to search through the results, which i tried out and works really well. but in general, i think this ability to search through your results from the results page is very powerful and a definite time saver - i hope they continue along this path! i’m tired of clicking through tons of google results looking for a snippet of text…its like finding a needle in a haystack

  14. Eze Vidra

    Congratulations on the launch Mark!

  15. Tuan

    ManagedQ is actually pretty cool. The main thing I like here is seeing some real software development going on top of search. Everyone is addicted to Google which makes sense as we have all used them for 10 years, so we’re a bit blinded by what’s a real improvement and not, but if ManagedQ can optimize their NLP algorithm it’s easily a game changer. Also the search application as a concept is right for this year as you can toss any engine under it to great effect. This effectively takes the power away from the engines and put them back in the hands of the software kings. (think Windows over the folks making the machines, etc.) I’m excited to see what can come from ManagedQ. Note also their site is very bold. The “I Believe” icon rings of other extremely aggressive companies we all know and love. I’ll be tracking them.

  16. Cam

    I agree with Lauren. ManagedQ has taken search and made it much more relevant to the user’s needs. Not only is the interace cool, but the search within a search function is a big time saver. As for everybody complaingin about having to click next, I actually think that this is a lot more organized. Have we forgotten that Google has 1234 at the bottom of its page?I think that people have simply become way too entrenched in the usual way of doing things. Surf Canyon is cool, but it’s just not that innovative compared to ManagedQ.

  17. Yakov

    who is going to download a browser extension among mainstream users?

  18. Matt

    erick, surf canyon looks remarkable… i mainly use safari for my personal surfing though… but the idea is solid as hell, i’d like to read more about them in the future as they scale their offering.

  19. panefsky

    we’re fed up with search!
    Do something with the results!

  20. HTMLeando

    managedq.com big problem with low Internet connection

  21. Emre Sokullu

    “Creating a new search engine seems like a futile exercise. If Yahoo and Microsoft cannot compete with Google in search, what chance does a startup have?”

    Erick, if everyone thought like this, there would be no Google, no web 2.0, no Techcrunch today…

  22. Andrew

    @21, thats because Google’s product is just good enough to make people avoid looking for alternatives. When google came, the reason they got such large market share was because search sucked and people were looking for alternatives

  23. Sheetal

    A layer above search has been around for a while. I think the best application has been QUOSA (www.quosa.com). The QUOSA software sits on top of PubMed, Google Scholar, OVID, Web of Science, USPTO, etc and helps organize scientific literature acquired during scientific literature investigation. It allows for users to organize their search, set up alerts on frequent searches (e.g. HIV), and provides text mined concepts around articles that exist in your library from those search engines.

  24. Peter

    This ‘add-on’ experience has long been interesting to me.

    First, fuck google.

    I don’t care what they think. I don’t care who they think they are. They’re going to do everything they can to make it so that companies like these startups and companies like Stumbleupon can’t exist - and can’t modify web pages that users download to their hard drives - but we should oppose Google for this anti-competitive behavior, the same way we oppose Microsoft anti-competitive behavior.

    With stories of Google now explicitly supporting the GOP (via convention primping), we all need to wake up to the fact that Google is a corporation - and will do whatever it can to maximize shareholder value - even evil.

  25. patrick

    We have an interesting spin on enhanced search at WebMynd.com, by allowing users to incorporate their browsing history into the result rankings. Think of it as page reminders instead of page recommendations. We are still working on developing this feature. Over 25% of searches are an effort to refind something you have seen before.

    In general the enhancement of search results by incorporating personal relevance data has got to be the next step in search evolution. Search evolved from information based (how many times does a word appear on a page), to relevance based (page rank, how many times do other pages link to a page using that word as hypertext etc.), the next step is to incorporate information about the individuals past browsing into results.

  26. Emre Sokullu

    @22 - It’s Sergey Brin who admits search is still in its infancy. If you think it’s done, good for you, boy.

  27. Craig Quiter

    Searching firefox extensions for “search image”, I find these two tools that show a preview image next to Google results.

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/189

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2207

  28. patrick

    I just installed surfcanyon and it is not working on google but is working on yahoo. Has google blocked these guys?

  29. Stephanie

    “Creating a new search engine seems like a futile exercise. If Yahoo and Microsoft cannot compete with Google in search, what chance does a startup have?”

    Seriously? Like Yahoo and Google began their lives as 800 lb gorillas….

    Anyway, the search application idea is interesting, and im glad to see people are starting to realize it. ManagedQ has potential - for only being up a few weeks, it’s pretty amazing. Let’s hope they have what it takes to follow through with their idea and take it to the next level.

  30. R.J.

    We did this in 2000, with Grokker.com, before us, Perspecta and HotSauce. It was several years to early. The world may finally be ready in another 4-5 years for bolder, new search visualizations. Love seeing the progress continue!

  31. Alex

    The world is ready now. I look for ManagedQ to take down a chunk of the market this year if they get both the UI and D-NLP, which is what they use, challenges done right. Both are really tough ones to tackle. Should be fun to watch. The player with the best software wins as with any other market. For a few weeks up, their effort is awesome.

  32. Aderemi Ojikutu

    The joy of the search revolt is that its voice is heard and loud. How long can it endure? Time and intrinsic value would either keep them up and provoke a sufficient change to the next level in search evolution.

  33. bobsamueli

    SurfCanyon is pretty cool, it’s not intrusive, i don’t know how they will ever make money, but it’s a good browser enhancement. Have you tried clicking on a link, then hitting the back button to return to your original search page …. that’s very cool.

  34. Harrison

    There’s more about these ManagedQ guys on their forum if anyone is curious: http://managedq.com/forum/