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	<title>Comments on: They May Have Lost Their Name, But Wikileaks Goes On</title>
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		<title>By: Steve White</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-2002574</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas Jefferson, and for that matter a lot of people who did not write the Constitution, but lived it and fought for it, deserve a lot of credit, but wasn't it Madison who pushed and pushed until we got the Bill of Rights? Please don't forget one of the biggest heroes in US history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas Jefferson, and for that matter a lot of people who did not write the Constitution, but lived it and fought for it, deserve a lot of credit, but wasn&#8217;t it Madison who pushed and pushed until we got the Bill of Rights? Please don&#8217;t forget one of the biggest heroes in US history.</p>
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		<title>By: SBM</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-2001102</link>
		<dc:creator>SBM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WikiLeaks can still be easily accessed here:

&lt;a href="http://www.wikileaks2.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.wikileaks2.com&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://www.wikileaksmirror.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.wikileaksmirror.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WikiLeaks can still be easily accessed here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wikileaks2.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.wikileaks2.com');">http://www.wikileaks2.com</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.wikileaksmirror.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.wikileaksmirror.com');">http://www.wikileaksmirror.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-2000803</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://88.80.13.160/wiki/Wikileaks
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I HATE when news articles DON'T link us to said story/site. So much time is wasting having to google sites we are going to find anyways. THANK YOU Duncan</description>
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<p>I HATE when news articles DON&#8217;T link us to said story/site. So much time is wasting having to google sites we are going to find anyways. THANK YOU Duncan</p>
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		<title>By: Joe M.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-2000174</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sean

I was going to say great point but then I went into Google News and searched.  The New York Times and SF Chronicle have now covered it along with the AP.  I guess we just have to expect the mainstream press to be a day behind on a story like this.  Amazingly the NYTimes went one step further then Duncan and linked to the foreign sites as well: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/19/us/19cnd-wiki.html?bl&#38;ex=1203570000&#38;en=263d3103b011973c&#38;ei=5087%0A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sean</p>
<p>I was going to say great point but then I went into Google News and searched.  The New York Times and SF Chronicle have now covered it along with the AP.  I guess we just have to expect the mainstream press to be a day behind on a story like this.  Amazingly the NYTimes went one step further then Duncan and linked to the foreign sites as well: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/19/us/19cnd-wiki.html?bl&amp;ex=1203570000&amp;en=263d3103b011973c&amp;ei=5087%0A" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02.....ei=5087%0A</a></p>
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		<title>By: sami</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1999714</link>
		<dc:creator>sami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it takes balls to post such a story in a prominent outlet, and apparently techcrunch has them. Bravo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it takes balls to post such a story in a prominent outlet, and apparently techcrunch has them. Bravo!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Hastings</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1999489</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Hastings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan, Thank you very much for publishing this. It is scary how much the constitution is ignored in this country by all branches of our government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan, Thank you very much for publishing this. It is scary how much the constitution is ignored in this country by all branches of our government.</p>
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		<title>By: sourceroot</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1999439</link>
		<dc:creator>sourceroot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Constitutional freedoms have been an illusion since the 50s. This is the most obvious case of censorship I have seen to date. It's not even for "the sake of the children" this time. It's all about protecting the global inner circle of power and wealth. I'm guessing that a phone call from Washington to California took place before this order was enforced.  

@Toby : Your real name is Kunta Kinte ... remember?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Constitutional freedoms have been an illusion since the 50s. This is the most obvious case of censorship I have seen to date. It&#8217;s not even for &#8220;the sake of the children&#8221; this time. It&#8217;s all about protecting the global inner circle of power and wealth. I&#8217;m guessing that a phone call from Washington to California took place before this order was enforced.  </p>
<p>@Toby : Your real name is Kunta Kinte &#8230; remember?</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Gekko</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1999352</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Gekko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@21: I agree

This is a HUGE story but unfortunately it's not being treated as such by the mainstream media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@21: I agree</p>
<p>This is a HUGE story but unfortunately it&#8217;s not being treated as such by the mainstream media.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1999254</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's really interesting about this story is that NONE of the major US news outlets are covering it at all, not even a mention anywhere. Seriously, &lt;a href="http://news.google.com/news?q=wikileaks&#38;hl=en&#38;ned=us" rel="nofollow"&gt;search Google News for "wikileaks"&lt;/a&gt;. Almost all the stories are from outside the US or from small sites and blogs.

Thank baby Jesus that we have so many independent news outlets these days that don't bow to the almighty dollar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s really interesting about this story is that NONE of the major US news outlets are covering it at all, not even a mention anywhere. Seriously, <a href="http://news.google.com/news?q=wikileaks&amp;hl=en&amp;ned=us" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/news.google.com');">search Google News for &#8220;wikileaks&#8221;</a>. Almost all the stories are from outside the US or from small sites and blogs.</p>
<p>Thank baby Jesus that we have so many independent news outlets these days that don&#8217;t bow to the almighty dollar.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1999203</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toby, don't be such a god damn tool.</description>
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		<title>By: m0</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1999186</link>
		<dc:creator>m0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toby,

Let's try not to link morals and the law, n'er the twixt shall meet.

And while we're on this, how moral is it to summarily judge againt those who are not there to defend themselves?  Didn't this judge just ignore the law? Or did the Justice Dept. tell him this was ok because they think it's a good idea? In this "we make up the law as we go" current air the Administration in Washington has fostered.....who really can respect the court system? Remember, respect is earned, not mandated.

This all stinks to me of nervous officials afraid of the light, my guess, far too many Californians are involved in this for Judge White to risk the light of day on this matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toby,</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s try not to link morals and the law, n&#8217;er the twixt shall meet.</p>
<p>And while we&#8217;re on this, how moral is it to summarily judge againt those who are not there to defend themselves?  Didn&#8217;t this judge just ignore the law? Or did the Justice Dept. tell him this was ok because they think it&#8217;s a good idea? In this &#8220;we make up the law as we go&#8221; current air the Administration in Washington has fostered&#8230;..who really can respect the court system? Remember, respect is earned, not mandated.</p>
<p>This all stinks to me of nervous officials afraid of the light, my guess, far too many Californians are involved in this for Judge White to risk the light of day on this matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Bayard</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1999051</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Bayard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We've got a database entry about this case, which has some of the court documents -- http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/julius-baer-bank-and-trust-v-wikileaks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve got a database entry about this case, which has some of the court documents &#8212; <a href="http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/julius-baer-bank-and-trust-v-wikileaks" rel="nofollow">http://www.citmedialaw.org/thr.....-wikileaks</a></p>
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		<title>By: I Am Not Posting To Spam My Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1998885</link>
		<dc:creator>I Am Not Posting To Spam My Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don't like to read torture manuals, campaign to stop torture, not to stop torture manuals being leaked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t like to read torture manuals, campaign to stop torture, not to stop torture manuals being leaked.</p>
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		<title>By: Wikileaks / Wikileaks, Court&#8221;, Bank, Wikileaksorg, Dynadot, Californian, Julius, Baer / Web Adventures</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1998822</link>
		<dc:creator>Wikileaks / Wikileaks, Court&#8221;, Bank, Wikileaksorg, Dynadot, Californian, Julius, Baer / Web Adventures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] via. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Get Real</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1998731</link>
		<dc:creator>Get Real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@15 Arrington thinks he is above the law being an ex-lawyer. So if he was asked to remove it he would dig his heels in. 

In fact isn't Arrington THE law in the blogosphere. Try crossing him or his friends and see how he manages to turn everyone against you.  Just ask Fred Wilson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@15 Arrington thinks he is above the law being an ex-lawyer. So if he was asked to remove it he would dig his heels in. </p>
<p>In fact isn&#8217;t Arrington THE law in the blogosphere. Try crossing him or his friends and see how he manages to turn everyone against you.  Just ask Fred Wilson.</p>
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		<title>By: AW</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1998688</link>
		<dc:creator>AW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm curious, Duncan, Michael...

Will you guys remove the link to Wikileaks if a court order comes in?

(not trying to be confrontational, just wondering how you'd handle it)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious, Duncan, Michael&#8230;</p>
<p>Will you guys remove the link to Wikileaks if a court order comes in?</p>
<p>(not trying to be confrontational, just wondering how you&#8217;d handle it)</p>
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		<title>By: Sure, You Can Drop WikiLeaks&#8217; DNS Entry, Not Their IP Address</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1998654</link>
		<dc:creator>Sure, You Can Drop WikiLeaks&#8217; DNS Entry, Not Their IP Address</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you wish to check out WikiLeaks, for now, point your browser over to http://88.80.13.160/wiki/Wikileaks. [IP address provided by TechCrunch] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If you wish to check out WikiLeaks, for now, point your browser over to <a href="http://88.80.13.160/wiki/Wikileaks" rel="nofollow">http://88.80.13.160/wiki/Wikileaks</a>. [IP address provided by TechCrunch] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1998617</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I never said anything about Pirate Bay. OTOH, look at Wikileak.  There is stuff every bit important as Rosa parks to people in other places in the world there.  They are publishing documents from repressive regimes that are torturing and killing people.  Sorry if I take that seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I never said anything about Pirate Bay. OTOH, look at Wikileak.  There is stuff every bit important as Rosa parks to people in other places in the world there.  They are publishing documents from repressive regimes that are torturing and killing people.  Sorry if I take that seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Bad morals?" to defy something "gray??" Sometimes it is very good morals to defy a law outright. Laws change. If we are vigilant THANK YOU Techcrunch et al, and THANK YOU WIKILEAKS. Thank You Thomas Paine and Thanks to Bob who got to thank Thomas Jefferson before I could and who typed the appropriate fully referenced response so quickly. 

Foolish not to respect the *power* of a court, or the ideal office it represents, respectable is as respectable does, or rules in this case. Our courts have gone crazybad of late and it is our duty to oppose crap rulings. I am posting and sending these links far and wide. THANK YOU. 

These things have been virtual public record for over FOUR YEARS and NOW some vindictive lunatics have convinced a fascist-in-robes to put the horse, now a hred of horses, back into the barn? Absurd. And Immoral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bad morals?&#8221; to defy something &#8220;gray??&#8221; Sometimes it is very good morals to defy a law outright. Laws change. If we are vigilant THANK YOU Techcrunch et al, and THANK YOU WIKILEAKS. Thank You Thomas Paine and Thanks to Bob who got to thank Thomas Jefferson before I could and who typed the appropriate fully referenced response so quickly. </p>
<p>Foolish not to respect the *power* of a court, or the ideal office it represents, respectable is as respectable does, or rules in this case. Our courts have gone crazybad of late and it is our duty to oppose crap rulings. I am posting and sending these links far and wide. THANK YOU. </p>
<p>These things have been virtual public record for over FOUR YEARS and NOW some vindictive lunatics have convinced a fascist-in-robes to put the horse, now a hred of horses, back into the barn? Absurd. And Immoral.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1998600</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earth to Bob and Kevin:

The Pirate Bay is in no way comparable to Rosa Parks. 

Get off the high horse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earth to Bob and Kevin:</p>
<p>The Pirate Bay is in no way comparable to Rosa Parks. </p>
<p>Get off the high horse.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1998579</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toby, what crime is Duncan committing? Linking is not a crime.

http://www.thepiratebay.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toby, what crime is Duncan committing? Linking is not a crime.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thepiratebay.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepiratebay.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1998559</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toby, there are higher laws and principles than what some judge says.  "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

The standard model for moral development that I've seen (though I'm no expert) is Kohlberg's six stages of moral development.  At stage four, people learn to justify actions based on the laws and norms of their society.  OTOH, at stage six, they examine universal moral principles.  If these supercede laws, they can participate in civil disobedience.

While the stakes may be smaller here, when Rosa parks sat in the front of a bus, she was operating at a higher moral level than the sort of people who would say, "unless you want to live in another country, you need to learn a little respect."

The people who believed in principles, like Thomas Jefferson, built this country and I'm proud to be here and to stay.  My disrespect for people who think that blindly following rules trumps ethics makes me more American, not less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toby, there are higher laws and principles than what some judge says.  &#8220;All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>The standard model for moral development that I&#8217;ve seen (though I&#8217;m no expert) is Kohlberg&#8217;s six stages of moral development.  At stage four, people learn to justify actions based on the laws and norms of their society.  OTOH, at stage six, they examine universal moral principles.  If these supercede laws, they can participate in civil disobedience.</p>
<p>While the stakes may be smaller here, when Rosa parks sat in the front of a bus, she was operating at a higher moral level than the sort of people who would say, &#8220;unless you want to live in another country, you need to learn a little respect.&#8221;</p>
<p>The people who believed in principles, like Thomas Jefferson, built this country and I&#8217;m proud to be here and to stay.  My disrespect for people who think that blindly following rules trumps ethics makes me more American, not less.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Gekko</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1998479</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Gekko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh...if you actually read the wikileaks vs Bank Julius Baer transcripts, etc. on the wikileaks site you will see how this could be turned into an awesome movie.

The Bank had its private detectives following the guy that leaked all this stuff around.

Sadly though this isn't a movie and you will see the extent of power that some of these financial institutions focused on the uber rich have. if you've ever gone to Switzerland and visited any of their offices you will find that they have a sort of eerie prestige ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh&#8230;if you actually read the wikileaks vs Bank Julius Baer transcripts, etc. on the wikileaks site you will see how this could be turned into an awesome movie.</p>
<p>The Bank had its private detectives following the guy that leaked all this stuff around.</p>
<p>Sadly though this isn&#8217;t a movie and you will see the extent of power that some of these financial institutions focused on the uber rich have. if you&#8217;ve ever gone to Switzerland and visited any of their offices you will find that they have a sort of eerie prestige &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1998474</link>
		<dc:creator>gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cannot agree with tony...  courts, attorneys general, are too often beholden to the government to give them unthinking obedience.   if they are really serious, you won't see duncan in america again, or they will sue tech crunch,  you never know with governments... i appreciate the rebelliousness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cannot agree with tony&#8230;  courts, attorneys general, are too often beholden to the government to give them unthinking obedience.   if they are really serious, you won&#8217;t see duncan in america again, or they will sue tech crunch,  you never know with governments&#8230; i appreciate the rebelliousness</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Gekko</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/18/they-may-have-lost-their-name-but-wikileaks-goes-on/#comment-1998472</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Gekko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness for Sweden...

PirateBay + WikiLeaks = fighting the good fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank goodness for Sweden&#8230;</p>
<p>PirateBay + WikiLeaks = fighting the good fight.</p>
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