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	<title>Comments on: Amazon Web Services Goes Down, Takes Many Startup Sites With It</title>
	<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/</link>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Saved by the Backup &#171;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2163385</link>
		<dc:creator>Saved by the Backup &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2163385</guid>
		<description>[...] by the&#160;Backup  Posted on Feb. 16, 2008 by flyrig   Yesterday&#8217;s outage at Amazon affected some of our images, including the photos for the apartments. Luckily, we store [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] by the&nbsp;Backup  Posted on Feb. 16, 2008 by flyrig   Yesterday&#8217;s outage at Amazon affected some of our images, including the photos for the apartments. Luckily, we store [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Talkibie &#187; Archive &#187; For rent: Amazon&#8217;s cloud</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2160118</link>
		<dc:creator>Talkibie &#187; Archive &#187; For rent: Amazon&#8217;s cloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2160118</guid>
		<description>[...] Web Services has experienced a few outages, most notably this February. As TechCrunch notes, other startups (including Twitter) who rely on S3 or EC2 experienced problems as a result. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Web Services has experienced a few outages, most notably this February. As TechCrunch notes, other startups (including Twitter) who rely on S3 or EC2 experienced problems as a result. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Amazon Web Services Gets Another Hiccup</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2138530</link>
		<dc:creator>Amazon Web Services Gets Another Hiccup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2138530</guid>
		<description>[...] Cloud (EC2) went down for about an hour for at least some customers in the U.S. This follows a major outage of its S3 storage service in February. Companies big and small use EC2 as a virtual data center to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Cloud (EC2) went down for about an hour for at least some customers in the U.S. This follows a major outage of its S3 storage service in February. Companies big and small use EC2 as a virtual data center to [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2028360</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2028360</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;free car quote...&lt;/strong&gt;

Excellent post. Keep it up!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>free car quote&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Excellent post. Keep it up!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: IT&#8217;s About Uptime - The StackSafe Blog &#187; Seven Key Lessons to Keep in Mind When Communicating an IT Failure</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2015680</link>
		<dc:creator>IT&#8217;s About Uptime - The StackSafe Blog &#187; Seven Key Lessons to Keep in Mind When Communicating an IT Failure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2015680</guid>
		<description>[...] End-to-End IT Services Fail. Critical Applications Fail. DataCenters that we rely upon lose power due to a traffic accident. A system upgrade takes out an airport baggage handling system. A back-end infrastructure provider that many rely upon for outsourced infrastructure experiences a major outage.... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] End-to-End IT Services Fail. Critical Applications Fail. DataCenters that we rely upon lose power due to a traffic accident. A system upgrade takes out an airport baggage handling system. A back-end infrastructure provider that many rely upon for outsourced infrastructure experiences a major outage&#8230;. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: C. Janine Hodge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Amazon S3 Outage: A Gentle Reminder</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2007460</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Janine Hodge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Amazon S3 Outage: A Gentle Reminder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2007460</guid>
		<description>[...] Amazon Web Services Goes Down, Takes Many Startup Sites With It [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Amazon Web Services Goes Down, Takes Many Startup Sites With It [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Blagovest</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2005400</link>
		<dc:creator>Blagovest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2005400</guid>
		<description>There is a very important question you have to ask yourself before deciding whether to use S3: what are you really looking for - remote storage, content delivery, or both. These are crucial to distinguish.

What I observe is that most people treat Amazon S3 as a content delivery service. While this is not inherently wrong, one has to notice that S3 was especially designed to be a STORAGE service.

The point is, since terrabyte hard drives are affordable nowadays and internet traffic grows steadily, the stress goes on content delivery rather than on storage. If you are not concerned about storage, there are much better services especially suited for content delivery.

SteadyOffload.com provides an innovative, subtle and convenient way to offload static content. The whole mechanism there is quite different from Amazon S3. Instead of permanently uploading your files to a third-party host, their cachebot crawls your site and mirrors the content in a temporary cache on their servers. Content remains stored on your server while it is being delivered from the SteadyOffload cache. The URL of the cached object on their server is dynamically generated at page loading time, very scrambled and is changing often, so you don’t have to worry about hotlinking. This means that there is an almost non-existent chance that the cached content gets exposed outside of your web application.

It’s definitely worth trying because it’s not a storage service like S3 but exactly a service for offloading static content.

Watch that:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8193919167634099306 (the video shows integration with WordPress, but it is integrable with any other webpage)

http://www.steadyoffload.com/

http://codex.wordpress.org/WordPress_Optimization/Offloading

Cost of bandwidth comes under $0.2 per GB - affordable, efficient and convenient. Looks like a startup but lures me very much. Definitely simpler and safer than Amazon S3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a very important question you have to ask yourself before deciding whether to use S3: what are you really looking for - remote storage, content delivery, or both. These are crucial to distinguish.</p>
<p>What I observe is that most people treat Amazon S3 as a content delivery service. While this is not inherently wrong, one has to notice that S3 was especially designed to be a STORAGE service.</p>
<p>The point is, since terrabyte hard drives are affordable nowadays and internet traffic grows steadily, the stress goes on content delivery rather than on storage. If you are not concerned about storage, there are much better services especially suited for content delivery.</p>
<p>SteadyOffload.com provides an innovative, subtle and convenient way to offload static content. The whole mechanism there is quite different from Amazon S3. Instead of permanently uploading your files to a third-party host, their cachebot crawls your site and mirrors the content in a temporary cache on their servers. Content remains stored on your server while it is being delivered from the SteadyOffload cache. The URL of the cached object on their server is dynamically generated at page loading time, very scrambled and is changing often, so you don’t have to worry about hotlinking. This means that there is an almost non-existent chance that the cached content gets exposed outside of your web application.</p>
<p>It’s definitely worth trying because it’s not a storage service like S3 but exactly a service for offloading static content.</p>
<p>Watch that:</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8193919167634099306" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videop.....7634099306</a> (the video shows integration with WordPress, but it is integrable with any other webpage)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.steadyoffload.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.steadyoffload.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://codex.wordpress.org/WordPress_Optimization/Offloading" rel="nofollow">http://codex.wordpress.org/Wor.....Offloading</a></p>
<p>Cost of bandwidth comes under $0.2 per GB - affordable, efficient and convenient. Looks like a startup but lures me very much. Definitely simpler and safer than Amazon S3.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2001861</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2001861</guid>
		<description>@ 85

www.nirvanix.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 85</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nirvanix.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nirvanix.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bobby delicious</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2000780</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby delicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-2000780</guid>
		<description>Amazon seems to be down again.. I guess I will have to look for a new solution</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon seems to be down again.. I guess I will have to look for a new solution</p>
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		<title>By: Alain Yap</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1998604</link>
		<dc:creator>Alain Yap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1998604</guid>
		<description>Will get back to sleep ... It'll probably be  another 6 months to a year before another outage.  And until then, we'd see if AWS has a plan already or another big name player goes to challenge them.

friarminor
http:morphexchange.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will get back to sleep &#8230; It&#8217;ll probably be  another 6 months to a year before another outage.  And until then, we&#8217;d see if AWS has a plan already or another big name player goes to challenge them.</p>
<p>friarminor<br />
http:morphexchange.com</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1996088</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1996088</guid>
		<description>So as big of news as this news was and with all the number of startups affected, did anyone outside the Bay even notice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So as big of news as this news was and with all the number of startups affected, did anyone outside the Bay even notice?</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1995377</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1995377</guid>
		<description>No offense guys, but plan for failure of critical infrastructure elements. I don't understand the big deal. Hello? Is any system perfect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense guys, but plan for failure of critical infrastructure elements. I don&#8217;t understand the big deal. Hello? Is any system perfect?</p>
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		<title>By: Barry X Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1995279</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry X Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1995279</guid>
		<description>Cloud computing DOES have a way to go.  But that refers to uptake, not ability.  We at 3tera are saddened by this black eye.  Amazon is truly the pioneer of cloud computing and can continue to be a giant, serving developers of non-mission critical applications cheaply.

But you can get cloud and utility computing with three or four nines out of the box (and many more with some simple configuration additions), and, have it on completely non-proprietary infrastructure, supporting multi-tier applications, including complex relational databases, by using a hosting provider that offers 3tera's AppLoogic.  Check out our web site.  --BXL--</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cloud computing DOES have a way to go.  But that refers to uptake, not ability.  We at 3tera are saddened by this black eye.  Amazon is truly the pioneer of cloud computing and can continue to be a giant, serving developers of non-mission critical applications cheaply.</p>
<p>But you can get cloud and utility computing with three or four nines out of the box (and many more with some simple configuration additions), and, have it on completely non-proprietary infrastructure, supporting multi-tier applications, including complex relational databases, by using a hosting provider that offers 3tera&#8217;s AppLoogic.  Check out our web site.  &#8211;BXL&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Antypas</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994863</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Antypas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994863</guid>
		<description>Amazon is great for prototyping and "testing the waters". Economically, it doesn't make sense for large scale production, especially if your company does something more challenging than serving HTML content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon is great for prototyping and &#8220;testing the waters&#8221;. Economically, it doesn&#8217;t make sense for large scale production, especially if your company does something more challenging than serving HTML content.</p>
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		<title>By: Ajay Bhutani</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994811</link>
		<dc:creator>Ajay Bhutani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994811</guid>
		<description>amazon sucks big time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amazon sucks big time</p>
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		<title>By: panefsky</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994510</link>
		<dc:creator>panefsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994510</guid>
		<description>Cloud computing has a long way to go. 
Startups should always have a back-up plan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cloud computing has a long way to go.<br />
Startups should always have a back-up plan</p>
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		<title>By: micfo.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994408</link>
		<dc:creator>micfo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994408</guid>
		<description>Possibly they need to boost up the authentication service competence at the most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possibly they need to boost up the authentication service competence at the most.</p>
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		<title>By: nistor</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994272</link>
		<dc:creator>nistor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994272</guid>
		<description>http://www.i-guide.ro/blog/Ro/en/
help me popularize mine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.i-guide.ro/blog/Ro/en/" rel="nofollow">http://www.i-guide.ro/blog/Ro/en/</a><br />
help me popularize mine</p>
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		<title>By: chrisco</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994215</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994215</guid>
		<description>@44 Speaking of Gin 'n Juice, here's an blue grass type version of the song on YouTube.  Interesting visuals, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCAM3C3dpIA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@44 Speaking of Gin &#8216;n Juice, here&#8217;s an blue grass type version of the song on YouTube.  Interesting visuals, too: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCAM3C3dpIA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCAM3C3dpIA</a></p>
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		<title>By: tinou</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994155</link>
		<dc:creator>tinou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994155</guid>
		<description>remember when the outage (because of a drunk employee) at 365 main brought down the Internet. Shit happens.  Maybe I'm just naive, but if your website is useful/interesting, customers will come back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>remember when the outage (because of a drunk employee) at 365 main brought down the Internet. Shit happens.  Maybe I&#8217;m just naive, but if your website is useful/interesting, customers will come back.</p>
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		<title>By: Hyderabad Barcamp 5 - Live ! Part 3 &#171;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994122</link>
		<dc:creator>Hyderabad Barcamp 5 - Live ! Part 3 &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994122</guid>
		<description>[...] funny thing&#8230;the speaker talks about Amazon S3 to save time on performance while S3 is sleeping in woods at the same [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] funny thing&#8230;the speaker talks about Amazon S3 to save time on performance while S3 is sleeping in woods at the same [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan McKenzie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994102</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan McKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994102</guid>
		<description>It looks like the "critics" from your previous post on Amazon's web services were right and you were just saying they were touchy DBAs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like the &#8220;critics&#8221; from your previous post on Amazon&#8217;s web services were right and you were just saying they were touchy DBAs.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Wilensky</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994075</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Wilensky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1994075</guid>
		<description>We are only one major outage away from certain marquee clients swearing off sole reliance on SAAS. This happened to a mid-sized automotive auction, a client, that had with my help knit together a network of dealers, contractors, and agents, into a system with a zero install, zero hosting footprint.

UNTIL:

There were four accounts that were mashed up…the usual suspects, and one of them went dark. We did some pinging (here is a good business idea for a bright Web20 person, third party app monitoring and governance) and isolated the guilty party.

In spite of being punked, fingered, whatever, the slacker who ran the service were very rude and unforthcoming. That’s another problem: who are you going to deal with when these hosted services go down? I’m not so sure if it was SalesForce that crapped out, that it would have been better.

Long and short of it: we have a business community that is used to local control, we consultants want to deliver apps as a service - we will need to ally ourselves with the providers of these services to come up with a game plan…but try and get one of the stars to cough up a retainer!

Most of the startup SaaS guys laugh when I propose a contract to consult on packaging and policies for reliability for the SMB end users.

But this is exactly what they should want, guys like me who beat the bushes for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are only one major outage away from certain marquee clients swearing off sole reliance on SAAS. This happened to a mid-sized automotive auction, a client, that had with my help knit together a network of dealers, contractors, and agents, into a system with a zero install, zero hosting footprint.</p>
<p>UNTIL:</p>
<p>There were four accounts that were mashed up…the usual suspects, and one of them went dark. We did some pinging (here is a good business idea for a bright Web20 person, third party app monitoring and governance) and isolated the guilty party.</p>
<p>In spite of being punked, fingered, whatever, the slacker who ran the service were very rude and unforthcoming. That’s another problem: who are you going to deal with when these hosted services go down? I’m not so sure if it was SalesForce that crapped out, that it would have been better.</p>
<p>Long and short of it: we have a business community that is used to local control, we consultants want to deliver apps as a service - we will need to ally ourselves with the providers of these services to come up with a game plan…but try and get one of the stars to cough up a retainer!</p>
<p>Most of the startup SaaS guys laugh when I propose a contract to consult on packaging and policies for reliability for the SMB end users.</p>
<p>But this is exactly what they should want, guys like me who beat the bushes for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kalid</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1993937</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 05:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1993937</guid>
		<description>To get some perspective, 3 nines (99.9%) is 45 mins/month of downtime. 5 nines (99.999%) is only 30 seconds per month.

Amazon can compensate for 2 hours downtime with 3 months of perfect service and get 99.9%. To get 99.999% they'd need perfect service for over 20 years (http://tinyurl.com/279xkl).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get some perspective, 3 nines (99.9%) is 45 mins/month of downtime. 5 nines (99.999%) is only 30 seconds per month.</p>
<p>Amazon can compensate for 2 hours downtime with 3 months of perfect service and get 99.9%. To get 99.999% they&#8217;d need perfect service for over 20 years (http://tinyurl.com/279xkl).</p>
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		<title>By: Technicle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1993910</link>
		<dc:creator>Technicle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 05:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/#comment-1993910</guid>
		<description>Don't be foolish.. &lt;b&gt;everything has a single point of failure&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be foolish.. <b>everything has a single point of failure</b>.</p>
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