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	<title>Comments on: Half Of All Clicks On Display Ads Are Worthless</title>
	<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 09:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GG</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-2002628</link>
		<dc:creator>GG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-2002628</guid>
		<description>Loving this post!

I'm in sales myself.  Just yesterday after a couple of attempts trying to reach a large cosmetics company in the US, I received a phone call.

I was asked some questions about how the pricing works and if we calculated it by CPM or by clicks.  We offer some pretty decent numbers as far as impressions and they are definitely of quality, targeting a mid to upscale 21-35 year old demo, approx 3/4 female.

When at some point in the conversation I mentioned that we have an open mind and we do custom packages according to the clients budgets/needs, I was asked if we "guarantee clicks." 
I said "no we dont" (big mistake!)
She arrogantly replied "well, some sites do."  And the convo didn't really continue as I would have liked, terminating shortly after.

Based on our history of corporate campaigns, I'd have to say 80 to 90% of our clients were pleased and somewhat impressed to the response generated from our website compared to our competitors.  This is why we're still around after 7 years.  =)  

Tell me what you want and we'll set you up to get the maximum amount of clicks you desire.  Guaranteeing clicks seems a little far fetched (and based on this write up) clicks dont mean much, if they're not quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loving this post!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in sales myself.  Just yesterday after a couple of attempts trying to reach a large cosmetics company in the US, I received a phone call.</p>
<p>I was asked some questions about how the pricing works and if we calculated it by CPM or by clicks.  We offer some pretty decent numbers as far as impressions and they are definitely of quality, targeting a mid to upscale 21-35 year old demo, approx 3/4 female.</p>
<p>When at some point in the conversation I mentioned that we have an open mind and we do custom packages according to the clients budgets/needs, I was asked if we &#8220;guarantee clicks.&#8221;<br />
I said &#8220;no we dont&#8221; (big mistake!)<br />
She arrogantly replied &#8220;well, some sites do.&#8221;  And the convo didn&#8217;t really continue as I would have liked, terminating shortly after.</p>
<p>Based on our history of corporate campaigns, I&#8217;d have to say 80 to 90% of our clients were pleased and somewhat impressed to the response generated from our website compared to our competitors.  This is why we&#8217;re still around after 7 years.  =)  </p>
<p>Tell me what you want and we&#8217;ll set you up to get the maximum amount of clicks you desire.  Guaranteeing clicks seems a little far fetched (and based on this write up) clicks dont mean much, if they&#8217;re not quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Madiator</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1996341</link>
		<dc:creator>Madiator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1996341</guid>
		<description>Can TechCrunch please conduct a poll to find out these facts : 

1. Number of people who never read Text Ads vs number of people who occasionally/always(anyone?) read these ads.
2. Number of people who think Graphical Ads make an impact vs number of those who think text ads are better.

This will be incredibly useful to get new insights into the advertising reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can TechCrunch please conduct a poll to find out these facts : </p>
<p>1. Number of people who never read Text Ads vs number of people who occasionally/always(anyone?) read these ads.<br />
2. Number of people who think Graphical Ads make an impact vs number of those who think text ads are better.</p>
<p>This will be incredibly useful to get new insights into the advertising reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1991754</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1991754</guid>
		<description>One of the big advantages about video advertising is that it can be about building brand equity - something a banner will always struggle to do.  We recently ran a campaign where we took TV creative, made it slightly interactive and ran it online.

The results for the large FMCG advertiser in terms of brand awareness and offline sales (3rd party research via Tesco Supermarkets) showed a far better ROI for this online, brand focused advertising than the client could get from online.

It's this sort of online advertising that's going to keep the ad spend flowing into online and away from other mediums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the big advantages about video advertising is that it can be about building brand equity - something a banner will always struggle to do.  We recently ran a campaign where we took TV creative, made it slightly interactive and ran it online.</p>
<p>The results for the large FMCG advertiser in terms of brand awareness and offline sales (3rd party research via Tesco Supermarkets) showed a far better ROI for this online, brand focused advertising than the client could get from online.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this sort of online advertising that&#8217;s going to keep the ad spend flowing into online and away from other mediums.</p>
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		<title>By: lonifasiko</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1991526</link>
		<dc:creator>lonifasiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1991526</guid>
		<description>I do not own a company, I just have started past September a blog where I write about hot tech news and personal experiences around the world of software. 

I've sent my blog to all my friends, bloglists, rankings and everywhere I could. Just to give it a try, I've recently added AdSense ads to my blog to see what happened. Believe me users hardly click on them. Ads are good and very related to the content but experienced users that like reading my blog won't never click on them, they just read my blog and skip ads. In fact, I also do it this way in other blogs...

Thus, ads seems to me a really difficult world, that sure will not make me rich enough to dedicate 100% of my time to blogging. A pity... 

PS: By the way, I would really appreciate if you visit my blog and click on some of my ads ;-)

Best regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not own a company, I just have started past September a blog where I write about hot tech news and personal experiences around the world of software. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve sent my blog to all my friends, bloglists, rankings and everywhere I could. Just to give it a try, I&#8217;ve recently added AdSense ads to my blog to see what happened. Believe me users hardly click on them. Ads are good and very related to the content but experienced users that like reading my blog won&#8217;t never click on them, they just read my blog and skip ads. In fact, I also do it this way in other blogs&#8230;</p>
<p>Thus, ads seems to me a really difficult world, that sure will not make me rich enough to dedicate 100% of my time to blogging. A pity&#8230; </p>
<p>PS: By the way, I would really appreciate if you visit my blog and click on some of my ads <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best regards.</p>
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		<title>By: bandguy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1990923</link>
		<dc:creator>bandguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1990923</guid>
		<description>There is a science to it.
You need the right keywords, the right ad text, and a compelling landing page.

Not all ads are created equal and not all landing pages work to grab a users attention. If you are running a campaign you need to create several variations of both your ad text and your landing pages. You need to keep tweeking this until you get it right.

Google analyics is a pretty good tool to use. It allows to to create several ad variations and landing pages then define a conversion page. The conversion page is the web page where you have converted the sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a science to it.<br />
You need the right keywords, the right ad text, and a compelling landing page.</p>
<p>Not all ads are created equal and not all landing pages work to grab a users attention. If you are running a campaign you need to create several variations of both your ad text and your landing pages. You need to keep tweeking this until you get it right.</p>
<p>Google analyics is a pretty good tool to use. It allows to to create several ad variations and landing pages then define a conversion page. The conversion page is the web page where you have converted the sale.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1990748</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1990748</guid>
		<description>Online advertising worked very well for me. I had a small company with virtually no web sales. I paid for Google Adsense advertising and my traffic went up over 1000% basically overnight. The major thing was that my online sales skyrocketed. Now the advertising did cost me roughly 10% of my profits. I then stopped all Google ads and my sales dropped off sharply. It is costly but it really does generate traffic to your site and as long as you have good keys words you should expect a reasonable conversion rate. Just my 2 cents!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Online advertising worked very well for me. I had a small company with virtually no web sales. I paid for Google Adsense advertising and my traffic went up over 1000% basically overnight. The major thing was that my online sales skyrocketed. Now the advertising did cost me roughly 10% of my profits. I then stopped all Google ads and my sales dropped off sharply. It is costly but it really does generate traffic to your site and as long as you have good keys words you should expect a reasonable conversion rate. Just my 2 cents!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1990354</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1990354</guid>
		<description>"It just shows you just how useless Online Advertising really is."

Wrong.  It just shows you just how useless advertising in general really is.  Online ads are just the only place where we can accurately measure its uselessness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It just shows you just how useless Online Advertising really is.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong.  It just shows you just how useless advertising in general really is.  Online ads are just the only place where we can accurately measure its uselessness.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1990039</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1990039</guid>
		<description>If only 2% of snail mail mailings (junk mail) create revenue then i expect a 50% return to be an advertisers dream!!!  I ignore Google specifically to avoid the ads, the same with MSN, Yahoo etc.  Let's face it, the majority of decent tv is on BBC and there's not an ad in sight!  Ads just make money for the advertising agencies and if anyone believes them then they are as sad as the people paying for them to be made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only 2% of snail mail mailings (junk mail) create revenue then i expect a 50% return to be an advertisers dream!!!  I ignore Google specifically to avoid the ads, the same with MSN, Yahoo etc.  Let&#8217;s face it, the majority of decent tv is on BBC and there&#8217;s not an ad in sight!  Ads just make money for the advertising agencies and if anyone believes them then they are as sad as the people paying for them to be made.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989727</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989727</guid>
		<description>So, that's why you have thirteen big ads on your blog.
Should I click on any of these?
But I am not in the target group of "25 to 44 years old, earns less than $40,000 a year, spends a lot of time online but not a lot of money online, and likes to frequent auctions, gambling sites and job boards".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, that&#8217;s why you have thirteen big ads on your blog.<br />
Should I click on any of these?<br />
But I am not in the target group of &#8220;25 to 44 years old, earns less than $40,000 a year, spends a lot of time online but not a lot of money online, and likes to frequent auctions, gambling sites and job boards&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars Fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989599</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989599</guid>
		<description>I only click on ads of companies/technologies I DON'T LIKE. At least it costs them some money...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only click on ads of companies/technologies I DON&#8217;T LIKE. At least it costs them some money&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bub</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989417</link>
		<dc:creator>Bub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989417</guid>
		<description>Down with undesirables making less than $40k/yr!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Down with undesirables making less than $40k/yr!</p>
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		<title>By: Technology Slice</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989402</link>
		<dc:creator>Technology Slice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989402</guid>
		<description>Statistics never tell the full story. Purchases online continue to skyrocket every single year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Statistics never tell the full story. Purchases online continue to skyrocket every single year.</p>
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		<title>By: Jakeimade</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989218</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakeimade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989218</guid>
		<description>I cant say that I even notice banner ads anymore.  Its like there is something in my brain (and im sure im not alone here) that says "dont read anything that is on the far right or left hand side of the screen or anything that is in a google ads box".  How many of you can list more than 1 company that advertises on the techcrunch page? I know I cant.. (But its ok, I wont tell your advertisers ;) )

Jakeimade
www.adimade.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant say that I even notice banner ads anymore.  Its like there is something in my brain (and im sure im not alone here) that says &#8220;dont read anything that is on the far right or left hand side of the screen or anything that is in a google ads box&#8221;.  How many of you can list more than 1 company that advertises on the techcrunch page? I know I cant.. (But its ok, I wont tell your advertisers <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>Jakeimade<br />
<a href="http://www.adimade.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.adimade.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989116</link>
		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989116</guid>
		<description>Plus I believe the article isn't even talking about google/search ppc stuff. Display is generally a reference to graphical based banners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus I believe the article isn&#8217;t even talking about google/search ppc stuff. Display is generally a reference to graphical based banners.</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989109</link>
		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989109</guid>
		<description>@ Moe: "It just shows you just how useless Online Advertising really is."

This is why billions of dollars continue to flow into the medium? You don't give sophisticated advertisers, or agencies for that matter, any credit whatsoever. Do you honestly believe they would continue to piss money out the window if there wasn't ROI?

As a small business owner, yes, Google PPC model absolutely sucks for our business and I believe the vast majority of clicks we had seen on our recent endeavor in this area were purely curiousity seekers/flat out fraudulent. However, I wouldn't make a broad stroke comment about how useless online advertising is. It all boils down to what you're selling, whom you're trying to sell to, and where and when your ads are displayed. Also many advertisers are attacking the market through various channels, and are getting increasingly sophisticated in how they market and measure success. Online is an area they need to be in.

I say this because I have worked in the industry for quite some time, and I have first hand experience in seeing online advertising prove to be incredibly valuable for "certain" advertisers. 

I agree with the post about measuring clicks. A CTR is just a leading indicator, and outside of CPC deals where number of clicks are a factor for calculating cost of conversion, most advertisers could care less about clicks and are most concerned with conversions (sales, reg's, etc.), cost of conversion and scalability of a particular publisher/network.

Branding advertisers are a whole other ball of wax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Moe: &#8220;It just shows you just how useless Online Advertising really is.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is why billions of dollars continue to flow into the medium? You don&#8217;t give sophisticated advertisers, or agencies for that matter, any credit whatsoever. Do you honestly believe they would continue to piss money out the window if there wasn&#8217;t ROI?</p>
<p>As a small business owner, yes, Google PPC model absolutely sucks for our business and I believe the vast majority of clicks we had seen on our recent endeavor in this area were purely curiousity seekers/flat out fraudulent. However, I wouldn&#8217;t make a broad stroke comment about how useless online advertising is. It all boils down to what you&#8217;re selling, whom you&#8217;re trying to sell to, and where and when your ads are displayed. Also many advertisers are attacking the market through various channels, and are getting increasingly sophisticated in how they market and measure success. Online is an area they need to be in.</p>
<p>I say this because I have worked in the industry for quite some time, and I have first hand experience in seeing online advertising prove to be incredibly valuable for &#8220;certain&#8221; advertisers. </p>
<p>I agree with the post about measuring clicks. A CTR is just a leading indicator, and outside of CPC deals where number of clicks are a factor for calculating cost of conversion, most advertisers could care less about clicks and are most concerned with conversions (sales, reg&#8217;s, etc.), cost of conversion and scalability of a particular publisher/network.</p>
<p>Branding advertisers are a whole other ball of wax.</p>
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		<title>By: UhOh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989092</link>
		<dc:creator>UhOh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989092</guid>
		<description>Look for a return of subscription-based content and services. Because when the ad bubble pops, that's the only way sites will survive.  

&lt;b&gt;Goodbye Facebook's Valuation

$15 Billion, for what?  Broke college students and an average click thru rate that's .002% ...  half of which is totally worthless.&lt;/b&gt;

Yay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look for a return of subscription-based content and services. Because when the ad bubble pops, that&#8217;s the only way sites will survive.  </p>
<p><b>Goodbye Facebook&#8217;s Valuation</p>
<p>$15 Billion, for what?  Broke college students and an average click thru rate that&#8217;s .002% &#8230;  half of which is totally worthless.</b></p>
<p>Yay.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989079</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989079</guid>
		<description>@12: Exchange3D

Great site, I have it bookmarked now :-) I also have to agree with you that if you are in a specific niche market, targeted ad campaigns are the way to go, sites that I develop that are targeted have far higher "advertising generated profit margins" then generic ones. I am surprised anybody puts any advertising on hotmail, facebook or other sites where the focus is on building relationships and not actually looking for something of interest. I am not surprised by the findings of this study, I have to agree with others, these numbers are still too generous.

Jon
http://i3ds.com - Custom 3D and Programming Services</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@12: Exchange3D</p>
<p>Great site, I have it bookmarked now <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> I also have to agree with you that if you are in a specific niche market, targeted ad campaigns are the way to go, sites that I develop that are targeted have far higher &#8220;advertising generated profit margins&#8221; then generic ones. I am surprised anybody puts any advertising on hotmail, facebook or other sites where the focus is on building relationships and not actually looking for something of interest. I am not surprised by the findings of this study, I have to agree with others, these numbers are still too generous.</p>
<p>Jon<br />
<a href="http://i3ds.com" rel="nofollow">http://i3ds.com</a> - Custom 3D and Programming Services</p>
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		<title>By: állás és munka</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989067</link>
		<dc:creator>állás és munka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989067</guid>
		<description>does someone think that for example billboards have a better conversion rate?  

and that cost even more and you can not measure sight/conversion at all

that is why CTR ads are still better I think</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does someone think that for example billboards have a better conversion rate?  </p>
<p>and that cost even more and you can not measure sight/conversion at all</p>
<p>that is why CTR ads are still better I think</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Glitz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989052</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Glitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989052</guid>
		<description>At last someone is taking a serious look at the over hyped world of online advertising, especially the over valued and over the hill - Google.

Could someone please do a report on Google and show everyone just what a lousy online advertising company it is.
Think of all the huge number of annual Page Hits it reaches across its own Search Site. Then add those Page Hits across its other Sites such as YouTube, Blogger, Google Maps, that also display Ads.
And finally add the number of Page Hits that feature Google AdSense, such as MySpace and various other Sites.

Once you get a final Page Hits total that feature all of Google's Three Advertising Models, compare that to the annual revenues that Google made online through this form of advertising - and calculate just how much money Google made from the amount of Page Hits that their Ads were featured on.
(Don't forget to take away a large percentage of Click Fraud Ads)

Even with Google's huge online audience reach. The amount of money that they earn through their Three Advertisings Models is very poor.
It just shows you just how useless Online Advertising really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last someone is taking a serious look at the over hyped world of online advertising, especially the over valued and over the hill - Google.</p>
<p>Could someone please do a report on Google and show everyone just what a lousy online advertising company it is.<br />
Think of all the huge number of annual Page Hits it reaches across its own Search Site. Then add those Page Hits across its other Sites such as YouTube, Blogger, Google Maps, that also display Ads.<br />
And finally add the number of Page Hits that feature Google AdSense, such as MySpace and various other Sites.</p>
<p>Once you get a final Page Hits total that feature all of Google&#8217;s Three Advertising Models, compare that to the annual revenues that Google made online through this form of advertising - and calculate just how much money Google made from the amount of Page Hits that their Ads were featured on.<br />
(Don&#8217;t forget to take away a large percentage of Click Fraud Ads)</p>
<p>Even with Google&#8217;s huge online audience reach. The amount of money that they earn through their Three Advertisings Models is very poor.<br />
It just shows you just how useless Online Advertising really is.</p>
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		<title>By: Foreman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989013</link>
		<dc:creator>Foreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1989013</guid>
		<description>Hi Chris,

There are people working on such a site:

http://www.workpost.com

We recognize that there are groups of people who click on ads for a reason, groups who click but have no idea why and are essentially useless to advertisers and groups who see ads as nothing more than annoyance (Digg). We believe that contractors, freelancers and, in general, people looking for work and to get work done are among the groups that click on ads with a purpose. Workpost.com is very new and we have a lot of work to do in terms of marketing but we hope to create a site that will be able to support meaningful ads relevant to the content of and locations where people are searching and posting.

We already have some excellent development help but if anyone out there is interested in these kinds of issues or working on sites like this, please contact us. We're open to all kinds of ideas.

Thanks,


- Workpost.com


"Don’t advertise on sites aimed at people with little money?
IE, social networking and digg???

http://www.ccr.gov/Contractors.aspx
If somebody made a site targeting these people, then that would be a gold mine. Unlike MySpace. Strangely enough, there aren’t many or they aren’t popular."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,</p>
<p>There are people working on such a site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.workpost.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.workpost.com</a></p>
<p>We recognize that there are groups of people who click on ads for a reason, groups who click but have no idea why and are essentially useless to advertisers and groups who see ads as nothing more than annoyance (Digg). We believe that contractors, freelancers and, in general, people looking for work and to get work done are among the groups that click on ads with a purpose. Workpost.com is very new and we have a lot of work to do in terms of marketing but we hope to create a site that will be able to support meaningful ads relevant to the content of and locations where people are searching and posting.</p>
<p>We already have some excellent development help but if anyone out there is interested in these kinds of issues or working on sites like this, please contact us. We&#8217;re open to all kinds of ideas.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>- Workpost.com</p>
<p>&#8220;Don’t advertise on sites aimed at people with little money?<br />
IE, social networking and digg???</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ccr.gov/Contractors.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.ccr.gov/Contractors.aspx</a><br />
If somebody made a site targeting these people, then that would be a gold mine. Unlike MySpace. Strangely enough, there aren’t many or they aren’t popular.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1988969</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1988969</guid>
		<description>Or as another blogger more succinctly put it: &lt;a href="http://www.phatduckk.com/blog/internet/holy-shit-i-clicked-on-a-banner-ad" rel="nofollow"&gt;Holy Shit I clicked on a Banner Ad. &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or as another blogger more succinctly put it: <a href="http://www.phatduckk.com/blog/internet/holy-shit-i-clicked-on-a-banner-ad" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.phatduckk.com');">Holy Shit I clicked on a Banner Ad. </a></p>
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		<title>By: Monopoly Dreams</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1988949</link>
		<dc:creator>Monopoly Dreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1988949</guid>
		<description>In reality, it's not about the the "clicks", it's about the "VALUE" of the ad.  Look at the typical ad on a website, whether it be 125 x 125, or 60 x 180, etc.  Does the ad even cater a particular discount, a unique selling point other that what is already on the website, or what about a unique offer to individuals particularly on the site the ad is on?  For example, if I'm reading techcrunch, or even Forbes.com for that matter, and I see the same ad on both sites, that offers the same exact offer on the sellers site, what's the point?  Now, if I had two seperate offers, based on being a unique user of that site, &#38; that offer is catered solely to me, than there's more likely hood that I would click.  But just take a look at all the ads on TechCrunch now - O'Desk (post for Free - we already know this), Rackspace (it hosting - as if we didn't know), social network one site (what the hell is this?)  As you can see, as a reader of TC, what do these ads offer "ME" as a reader on this site.  This is where advertisers are going wrong.  It's in the offer.  Better offer, more clicks.  They are better off just putting up a blank square box &#38; say, click me......basically that's all they are doing anyway.  Does anyone agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reality, it&#8217;s not about the the &#8220;clicks&#8221;, it&#8217;s about the &#8220;VALUE&#8221; of the ad.  Look at the typical ad on a website, whether it be 125 x 125, or 60 x 180, etc.  Does the ad even cater a particular discount, a unique selling point other that what is already on the website, or what about a unique offer to individuals particularly on the site the ad is on?  For example, if I&#8217;m reading techcrunch, or even Forbes.com for that matter, and I see the same ad on both sites, that offers the same exact offer on the sellers site, what&#8217;s the point?  Now, if I had two seperate offers, based on being a unique user of that site, &amp; that offer is catered solely to me, than there&#8217;s more likely hood that I would click.  But just take a look at all the ads on TechCrunch now - O&#8217;Desk (post for Free - we already know this), Rackspace (it hosting - as if we didn&#8217;t know), social network one site (what the hell is this?)  As you can see, as a reader of TC, what do these ads offer &#8220;ME&#8221; as a reader on this site.  This is where advertisers are going wrong.  It&#8217;s in the offer.  Better offer, more clicks.  They are better off just putting up a blank square box &amp; say, click me&#8230;&#8230;basically that&#8217;s all they are doing anyway.  Does anyone agree?</p>
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		<title>By: Al Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1988883</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1988883</guid>
		<description>The same could be said of half of all eyeballs staring at TVs.  So what else is new?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same could be said of half of all eyeballs staring at TVs.  So what else is new?</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1988869</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1988869</guid>
		<description>easier said than done, Erick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>easier said than done, Erick</p>
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		<title>By: weeeee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1988843</link>
		<dc:creator>weeeee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/13/half-of-all-clicks-on-display-ads-are-worthless/#comment-1988843</guid>
		<description>and how does this site make money? um.... what? banners??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and how does this site make money? um&#8230;. what? banners??</p>
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