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		<title>By: February 14, 2008 &#124; TechTV Update</title>
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		<dc:creator>February 14, 2008 &#124; TechTV Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] another Microsoft-Yahoo rumor. Newscorp is said to be hot for Yahoo after all. The idea involves merging MySpace and other assets into the struggling search giant. But this hinges on Yahoo outsourcing search and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] another Microsoft-Yahoo rumor. Newscorp is said to be hot for Yahoo after all. The idea involves merging MySpace and other assets into the struggling search giant. But this hinges on Yahoo outsourcing search and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Control Alt Delete &#124; &#187; News corp wants in on Yahoo as well</title>
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		<dc:creator>Control Alt Delete &#124; &#187; News corp wants in on Yahoo as well</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 04:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] talks to come up with a bid for Yahoo.&#160; This was reported by Silicon Alley Insider.&#160; Techcrunch has more on what News Corp would do to Yahoo: According to our source, the deal structure would spin off Fox Interactive Media (the primary [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] talks to come up with a bid for Yahoo.&#160; This was reported by Silicon Alley Insider.&#160; Techcrunch has more on what News Corp would do to Yahoo: According to our source, the deal structure would spin off Fox Interactive Media (the primary [...]</p>
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		<title>By: InsaneIdea &#187; Blog Archive &#187; We’re Sorting Through Some Crazy Google/Yahoo Rumors</title>
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		<dc:creator>InsaneIdea &#187; Blog Archive &#187; We’re Sorting Through Some Crazy Google/Yahoo Rumors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] some arbitrageurs say they had already factored in News Corp.’s possible Yahoo bid days before we broke the news. The fact that the arbitrageurs holding yahoo stock haven’t heard anything about this makes the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] some arbitrageurs say they had already factored in News Corp.’s possible Yahoo bid days before we broke the news. The fact that the arbitrageurs holding yahoo stock haven’t heard anything about this makes the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: We&#8217;re Sorting Through Some Crazy Google/Yahoo Rumors</title>
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		<dc:creator>We&#8217;re Sorting Through Some Crazy Google/Yahoo Rumors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] arbitrageurs say they had already factored in News Corp.&#8217;s possible Yahoo bid days before we broke the news. The fact that the arbitrageurs holding yahoo stock haven&#8217;t heard anything about this makes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] arbitrageurs say they had already factored in News Corp.&#8217;s possible Yahoo bid days before we broke the news. The fact that the arbitrageurs holding yahoo stock haven&#8217;t heard anything about this makes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Before the bell: PFE, RTP, BHP, RIMM, NWS, YHOO &#8230; &#183; profitmoney dot info</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/12/yahoo-and-news-corp-continue-marathon-discussions-possible-bid-to-counter-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-2007166</link>
		<dc:creator>Before the bell: PFE, RTP, BHP, RIMM, NWS, YHOO &#8230; &#183; profitmoney dot info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch claims to have confirmed a rumor that News Corp. (NYSE: NWS) and Yahoo! (NASDAQ: YHOO) &#8220;are in the middle of marathon discussions.&#8221; TechCrunch has more details on the deal structure, which also includes a private equity fund. This is of course in response to Microsoft (NASDAQ: MSFT)&#8217;s $44.6 billion unsolicited bid which Yahoo! has rejected.Meanwhile, the pink slips have arrived at Yahoo! as it laid off more than 1,000 employees on Tuesday. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] TechCrunch claims to have confirmed a rumor that News Corp. (NYSE: NWS) and Yahoo! (NASDAQ: YHOO) &#8220;are in the middle of marathon discussions.&#8221; TechCrunch has more details on the deal structure, which also includes a private equity fund. This is of course in response to Microsoft (NASDAQ: MSFT)&#8217;s $44.6 billion unsolicited bid which Yahoo! has rejected.Meanwhile, the pink slips have arrived at Yahoo! as it laid off more than 1,000 employees on Tuesday. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cobinonrysnaws</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trenton, honey, quell with me simply tonight? Eventually, Ron did have to stoke Megan up, systematically he could sprinkle trussed to enjoy Mr.</p>
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		<title>By: teesseNula</title>
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		<dc:creator>teesseNula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gNd2sKw84HN</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rajeev Goel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rajeev Goel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a guest post on the possible impact of the MSFT-YHOO merger to web publishers who sell ads on their web site.  In the short term, the picture is not pretty.  The article is here: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_will_publishers_fare_under_microhoo.php

A YHOO-NEWS Corp tie up could be much better, especially along the lines that Michael reports above.  FIM with Yahoo would probably continue the off-network strategy and focus on creating a true online media company.  That should bring welcome innovation to publisher-side solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a guest post on the possible impact of the MSFT-YHOO merger to web publishers who sell ads on their web site.  In the short term, the picture is not pretty.  The article is here: <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_will_publishers_fare_under_microhoo.php" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_will_publishers_fare_under_microhoo.php'>http://www.read...er_microhoo.php</a></p>
<p>A YHOO-NEWS Corp tie up could be much better, especially along the lines that Michael reports above.  FIM with Yahoo would probably continue the off-network strategy and focus on creating a true online media company.  That should bring welcome innovation to publisher-side solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: ONLINE SERVICES/INTERACTIVE MEDIA &#171; Daily Marauder</title>
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		<dc:creator>ONLINE SERVICES/INTERACTIVE MEDIA &#171; Daily Marauder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Media into Yahoo, along with a cash injection from News Corp. and an unnamed private equity fund. (http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/12/yahoo-and-news-corp-continue-marathon-discussions-possible-bid-... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Media into Yahoo, along with a cash injection from News Corp. and an unnamed private equity fund. (<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/12/yahoo-and-news-corp-continue-marathon-discussions-possible-bid-.." rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/12/yahoo-and-news-corp-continue-marathon-discussions-possible-bid-'>http://www.tech...s-possible-bid-</a>... [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Duh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its actually in Microsoft&#039;s interest to lead the Yahoo/FIM deal to go through, if you agree with the following statements:

1.  Value of Yahoo to MSFT is defensive--designed to slow Goog&#039;s growth and mitigate market share loss to MSFT.  Therefore, value of Yahoo is defined not only by synergies and ad pricing/sales,  but by potential sales/market share MSFT would lose to Google WITHOUT Yahoo
2.  MSFT does not have any other major acquisition options
3.  Yahoo is more valuable with FIM over x time.  Given that PE fund would participate, they will look for an exit eventually anyway--as would existing shareholders.  However, shareholders would have to wait for value to materialize in share price, vs. receive $30/sh right now.  Assuming 2-3 years for full synergies of Yahoo and FIM, $30/sh now may be more appealing depending on discount/risk.
4.  MSFT would still have to buy Yahoo down the road, except they would get a 2:1 &quot;twofer&quot; deal that would include MySpace--despite the obvious conflict with their FaceBook Foux Pax.  What would Yahoo be worth to Microsoft in 2-3 years with FIM&#039;s assets?  Now that is the real question...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its actually in Microsoft&#8217;s interest to lead the Yahoo/FIM deal to go through, if you agree with the following statements:</p>
<p>1.  Value of Yahoo to MSFT is defensive&#8211;designed to slow Goog&#8217;s growth and mitigate market share loss to MSFT.  Therefore, value of Yahoo is defined not only by synergies and ad pricing/sales,  but by potential sales/market share MSFT would lose to Google WITHOUT Yahoo<br />
2.  MSFT does not have any other major acquisition options<br />
3.  Yahoo is more valuable with FIM over x time.  Given that PE fund would participate, they will look for an exit eventually anyway&#8211;as would existing shareholders.  However, shareholders would have to wait for value to materialize in share price, vs. receive $30/sh right now.  Assuming 2-3 years for full synergies of Yahoo and FIM, $30/sh now may be more appealing depending on discount/risk.<br />
4.  MSFT would still have to buy Yahoo down the road, except they would get a 2:1 &#8220;twofer&#8221; deal that would include MySpace&#8211;despite the obvious conflict with their FaceBook Foux Pax.  What would Yahoo be worth to Microsoft in 2-3 years with FIM&#8217;s assets?  Now that is the real question&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rubu</title>
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		<dc:creator>rubu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft admitted they can’t grow organically, they’ve admitted defeat to Google, and they really don’t have any other major acquisition options–just as YHOO doesn’t have any other major potential buyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft admitted they can’t grow organically, they’ve admitted defeat to Google, and they really don’t have any other major acquisition options–just as YHOO doesn’t have any other major potential buyers.</p>
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		<title>By: davidlynch79</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidlynch79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is this a joke, yahoo, what can news corp offer you, fascist television? you are a technology company, go with microsoft, if your innovation really is running slow behind the scenes, you will not pick up any speed without making better software. if you go with newscorp, I will invite everyone to gmail, and it will be you likely will become a sad waste of talent with a flashy aolish homepage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is this a joke, yahoo, what can news corp offer you, fascist television? you are a technology company, go with microsoft, if your innovation really is running slow behind the scenes, you will not pick up any speed without making better software. if you go with newscorp, I will invite everyone to gmail, and it will be you likely will become a sad waste of talent with a flashy aolish homepage.</p>
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		<title>By: Support this story on Stirrdup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Support this story on Stirrdup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yahoo could take a page from CNET&#039;s book and sell off/deadpool their &quot;Hanging Chad&quot;* properties, make some strategic purchases (Bebo, Hi5, Imeem etc.) and refocus on their core, selling ads and continuing to be the world&#039;s #1 destination. 

Leadership and making Money, thats what we all expect from Y!.

*I haven&#039;t heard this phrase before so I&#039;d like to take credit if ti takes off ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo could take a page from CNET&#8217;s book and sell off/deadpool their &#8220;Hanging Chad&#8221;* properties, make some strategic purchases (Bebo, Hi5, Imeem etc.) and refocus on their core, selling ads and continuing to be the world&#8217;s #1 destination. </p>
<p>Leadership and making Money, thats what we all expect from Y!.</p>
<p>*I haven&#8217;t heard this phrase before so I&#8217;d like to take credit if ti takes off <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Liu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is ridiculous that Yahoo should outsource search marketing to Google. It will not cut much cost for Yahoo. And Google is going to take a big chunk from profit. So obviously that this will not do any good to Yahoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is ridiculous that Yahoo should outsource search marketing to Google. It will not cut much cost for Yahoo. And Google is going to take a big chunk from profit. So obviously that this will not do any good to Yahoo.</p>
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		<title>By: Duh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant. In addition to ideas above, this deal for Yahoo would:

--Substantially increase YHOO&#039;s ad/marketing audience and pricing power with agencies
--Increase YHOO&#039;s ad distribution
--Increase YHOO&#039;s revenue and cash flow for minimal additional capex--thus improving margins
--SUBSTANTIALLY increase Yahoo&#039;s valuation and long-term prospects
--Excluding synergies, could easily enable YHOO to grow into a $30/share company independent of MSFT
--Increase future price MSFT will have to pay for YHOO--since they will have to buy it anyway. Microsoft admitted they can&#039;t grow organically, they&#039;ve admitted defeat to Google, and they really don&#039;t have any other major acquisition options--just as YHOO doesn&#039;t have any other major potential buyers. That math works both ways...Thus, a YHOO/MySpace/NEWS CORP deal really puts the screws on Microsoft. MSFT will have to substantially increase its bid, or admit and cede defeat to Google.

Brilliant--and congrats to Yahoo&#039;s Board and advisers if this goes through with News Corp! Yahoo shareholders should INSIST on a deal with News Corp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant. In addition to ideas above, this deal for Yahoo would:</p>
<p>&#8211;Substantially increase YHOO&#8217;s ad/marketing audience and pricing power with agencies<br />
&#8211;Increase YHOO&#8217;s ad distribution<br />
&#8211;Increase YHOO&#8217;s revenue and cash flow for minimal additional capex&#8211;thus improving margins<br />
&#8211;SUBSTANTIALLY increase Yahoo&#8217;s valuation and long-term prospects<br />
&#8211;Excluding synergies, could easily enable YHOO to grow into a $30/share company independent of MSFT<br />
&#8211;Increase future price MSFT will have to pay for YHOO&#8211;since they will have to buy it anyway. Microsoft admitted they can&#8217;t grow organically, they&#8217;ve admitted defeat to Google, and they really don&#8217;t have any other major acquisition options&#8211;just as YHOO doesn&#8217;t have any other major potential buyers. That math works both ways&#8230;Thus, a YHOO/MySpace/NEWS CORP deal really puts the screws on Microsoft. MSFT will have to substantially increase its bid, or admit and cede defeat to Google.</p>
<p>Brilliant&#8211;and congrats to Yahoo&#8217;s Board and advisers if this goes through with News Corp! Yahoo shareholders should INSIST on a deal with News Corp.</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; ヤフーとNews Corp. 、マラソン交渉中―Microsoftへの対抗案は出るか？</title>
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		<title>By: Rami Hamodah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rami Hamodah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet Microsoft will rais their offer to 51 Billion in the next 10 days. This is just a guess.</description>
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		<title>By: Blowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yahoo!&#039;s biggest problem (as per &#039;peanut butter memo&#039;) is that they have all these disparate parts with no logical connection between them. Yahoo!&#039;s business plan seems to have been to buy and develop &#039;cool&#039; products, hope they take off, and stick their advertising on them.

The problem with this theory is that Google&#039;s advertising gives higher ROI, and therefore gets far higher CPCs.

Apple&#039;s turnaround (@#17) is a good example: they regrouped everything they do under one seamless identity of &#039;lifestyle products&#039;, and then charged premium prices. Thus iPods, iTunes, Macs - even Apple shops - all work together. In contrast, Yahoo! have products actually competing against each other to the benefit of nobody except Google.

On another note, from the comments it seems that half the users will leave if News Corp buys Yahoo!; the other half will leave if Microsoft buys them. But if nobody buys them, everybody will leave as their service slowly degrades compared to the rest of the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo!&#8217;s biggest problem (as per &#8216;peanut butter memo&#8217;) is that they have all these disparate parts with no logical connection between them. Yahoo!&#8217;s business plan seems to have been to buy and develop &#8216;cool&#8217; products, hope they take off, and stick their advertising on them.</p>
<p>The problem with this theory is that Google&#8217;s advertising gives higher ROI, and therefore gets far higher CPCs.</p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s turnaround (@#17) is a good example: they regrouped everything they do under one seamless identity of &#8216;lifestyle products&#8217;, and then charged premium prices. Thus iPods, iTunes, Macs &#8211; even Apple shops &#8211; all work together. In contrast, Yahoo! have products actually competing against each other to the benefit of nobody except Google.</p>
<p>On another note, from the comments it seems that half the users will leave if News Corp buys Yahoo!; the other half will leave if Microsoft buys them. But if nobody buys them, everybody will leave as their service slowly degrades compared to the rest of the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: 113.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>113.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@21
Yes agree that it&#039;d take time to integrate if with FIM... and in light of that, mightbe Y! should consider bids from Disney -- no integration is needed! :-D</description>
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Yes agree that it&#8217;d take time to integrate if with FIM&#8230; and in light of that, mightbe Y! should consider bids from Disney &#8212; no integration is needed! <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@19 agreed they have a little time, but not more than 6-9 months to really get  it in gear. Definitely not enough time for a merger with FIM...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@19 agreed they have a little time, but not more than 6-9 months to really get  it in gear. Definitely not enough time for a merger with FIM&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: free market research company</title>
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		<dc:creator>free market research company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that may be the disaster for Yahoo as News Corp has already messed around with MySpace.</description>
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		<title>By: 113.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>113.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@18
I&#039;d tend to think Y! (as a company) still has time, but Y! (shareholders) might not have the patience, in that I&#039;d tend to guess the Y! stockholders current focus is to sell their shares for a max (ie., &quot;local-max&quot; wrt the current bids) pricing that they can get a hold onto... as such, they wouldn&#039;t possibly care whether it&#039;s a sum of parts valuation or otherwise... :-)</description>
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I&#8217;d tend to think Y! (as a company) still has time, but Y! (shareholders) might not have the patience, in that I&#8217;d tend to guess the Y! stockholders current focus is to sell their shares for a max (ie., &#8220;local-max&#8221; wrt the current bids) pricing that they can get a hold onto&#8230; as such, they wouldn&#8217;t possibly care whether it&#8217;s a sum of parts valuation or otherwise&#8230; <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@17 that is my point is mentioning that Yahoo hasn&#039;t had time to integrate their acquisitions with their total offering and haven&#039;t standardized on a single Ad Serving Platform yet, but on the flipside, let&#039;s say they do integrate everything... then what? Will Y! really take the reigns for the industry like they were supposed to or should they hop on board with M$ and try to regain the footing they&#039;ve lost?

Does Y! have time to work with FIM? 

Remember 23% of Online Advertising goes to Google (and thats mostly Search and AdSense). Once the DCLK deal is done they are going to get better crack at Display. The value prop from Google to Agencies, Media Buyers, Small Businesses, Branded sites, Social Media Sites, Long Tail Inventory will be much more attractive because of all the pieces that Google brings to the table and how easy they make it for everyone to be successful.

In any battle you have Time and Ground. If you don&#039;t have time you had better gain some ground. Google obviously has time on their side as does M$. Y! may not have the ability to gain enough ground on its own or with FIM in the time needed to stay a leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@17 that is my point is mentioning that Yahoo hasn&#8217;t had time to integrate their acquisitions with their total offering and haven&#8217;t standardized on a single Ad Serving Platform yet, but on the flipside, let&#8217;s say they do integrate everything&#8230; then what? Will Y! really take the reigns for the industry like they were supposed to or should they hop on board with M$ and try to regain the footing they&#8217;ve lost?</p>
<p>Does Y! have time to work with FIM? </p>
<p>Remember 23% of Online Advertising goes to Google (and thats mostly Search and AdSense). Once the DCLK deal is done they are going to get better crack at Display. The value prop from Google to Agencies, Media Buyers, Small Businesses, Branded sites, Social Media Sites, Long Tail Inventory will be much more attractive because of all the pieces that Google brings to the table and how easy they make it for everyone to be successful.</p>
<p>In any battle you have Time and Ground. If you don&#8217;t have time you had better gain some ground. Google obviously has time on their side as does M$. Y! may not have the ability to gain enough ground on its own or with FIM in the time needed to stay a leader.</p>
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